tv The Stream 2018 Ep 158 Al Jazeera October 3, 2018 11:32am-12:00pm +03
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every. day and you're in the stream over the last few decades thousands of citizens from countries have settled legally in the u.s. and especially hawaii but many say they have faced ill treatment in their new home and my mother could be allowed to they will discuss the experiences people are sharing online and the hash tag being micronesian send us your questions and your comments via twitter and are you. ready to leave. the indigenous comic on you are a mystery. why is reputation a space summed up by its popular going to a word meaning love or compassion yet many micronesians living there has suffered
racism and discrimination spot a wide ranging online discussion about what it means to be an indian states thanks to me but most of the online betrayal is directed at people who came to hawaii from the marshall islands and the federated states of micronesia now citizens of these countries can live in the us under an association agreement the online conversation over the treatment of micronesians in hawaii was started by a palauan pot castor and octopus under the hash tag being. she showed examples of racism and discrimination. as being micronesian means watching a steady stream of hate such as being compared to cockroaches and one example or twitter user calls micronesians. lazy promiscuous unreliable and intitled victor is among those from micronesia who responded to the hash tag he says he used
to live on the u.s. east coast and the people there didn't even know exists when he moved to hawaii he thought he would be welcomed as a fellow pacific islander but instead he found being micronesian in hawaii people hate something about you without knowing you as a hash tag or a wider attention or at honolulu civil beat wrote an article about the twitter conversation she followed up with an essay on why i talking about anti micronesian hate is important but while she received strong support for the articles some people's attitudes are hard to change i needed one reader who said her micronesian neighbors are filthy and educated and disease ridden or taking over i mean there's so much to talk about. who studied to be a micronesian hash tag joins us from honolulu also in honolulu we have a need to she's a journalist on civil beat that's an online news site and she wrote those articles that we mentioned earlier that gave us so much attention in hawaii and beyond and
in portland oregon we have kathy jett no kitchener she is a poet artist and activist as you'll see co-founded a dedicated to finding solutions to climate change and other environmental issues threatening the marshall islands it's good to have you here. with doing that. your face was just changing. passion and steam coming out of your head i could i could feel it but this idea of. going to the u.s. in particular. why they go in the first place. because the contract with the association which. at least for callao we became a sovereign nation or but in free association it gave people the ability to come to the united states we don't have to. really work for the status it was just
we can come to the united states to work we can attend school and the same kind of in other make news. and why he is so obviously a go because it's kind of been. but you're not quite as big as the united states but sure so was open and open to much any chance to go to hawaii to go to the rest of the u.s. but why would they want to demonize you with them why. the pursuit of higher education better medical care just opportunity to do better and allow the minimum wage would be around three dollars an hour now they don't they have a college full of community college but only recently that they start being able to do graduate degrees and a given doctorate but it's online education and then in terms of medical care we just don't have that kind of health care so being able to come to why you really
a lot of opportunities. i hear what you're saying there and i think that this member of our community would agree this is. chad morrow which is a member of an indigenous. community from the mariana islands there are now about as many chamorro as living in hawaii and the u.s. mainland living in guam and the northern mariana islands and in a few years the diaspora will be a larger he goes on to say those of us in the us in washington d.c. are trying to make a living as well as we know how and we want to have our kids do well just like everyone else living in this country so i need to for some of our audience who are not completely clear on why people might leave these islands is explaining their angelo does here as well what do you hear from people you talk to. there are lots of reasons why people with leave and one of them has job opportunities and that's one of the ironies of the discrimination against micronesians in hawaii there's
this perception that they don't want to work that they're lazy and the reality is while i'm sure there are some people who are lazy there's also many many people who are hard working and who are you know trying to just come to the u.s. because this is a good place for opportunities for example i spoke with one chookie's woman who is a housekeeper in waikiki and she was saying that she came to what age because there were no jobs and shook and she really just wanted to earn money to support her family and so i think you can't emphasize enough the types of job opportunities that are here and you know the person on twitter angela goma's he is just like me and i'm chamorro from saif had and i came to the u.s. for education and for jobs and so it's all very similar and one thing that is the difference is that if you are from guam or the northern mariana islands you are a u.s. citizen so no one really questions my ability to be here on my right to be here and nobody calculates how much i'm using in terms of social services but it's very
different for people from my canadian islands that chose to maintain their sovereignty and be in free association with the u.s. and so the reception you get here is very different. cathy i want to show you a tweet that's from the being like. let me share this with you shaun spahn dyke says i swear my kidneys have more drama than any other race these people always get drunk start fights with their families and anyone just walking around i'm so over this why does that come from. i'm not sure about her comes from i mean i think that there is definitely an issue of alcoholism within some of our community members but there is an issue of alcoholism with other communities as well and i think it just has to do with being the latest wave of immigrants who are or at least that's what it looks like because actually there is documented records of micronesians coming into the hallway during the plantation era but where the latest member now and so there is this misunderstanding between
our communities a why are the here where are they coming from and then i think at a state level it's contributing to that kind of hatred because there's all of these you know news reports coming out saying you know micronesians are benefiting awful and they're costing us this amount of money and then that trickles down to personal interactions and conversations like and perspectives like the one that was just you know you just read from the tweet. i want to share another one this it's also hard to hear it hard to read. this person. that he remembers feeling that discrimination during high school his freshman year in hawaii he says it changed something in me after hearing a local peers cracking jokes about micronesians being ugly having too many kids referring to them as cockroaches i never again referred to myself as micronesian in front of anyone who wasn't he goes on to say though that that's changed for him and this hash tag is how to says i used to tell people i'm to avoid all that
micronesians stigma but i am a micronesian too and i will stand with anyone who identifies as such you corner a roach will true will choose. through you and so defiance there hatchback being micronesian but shot as i read that i could see you kind of shaking your head there what is this done for younger generations of people who hear things like you are a cockroach you do not belong here you are a leech on society i actually had this i had a different experience from a lot of the things. i was going to greece. and so i grew up in a place where i knew my community i knew the micronesians there no one really thought anything of it and the makings of white college and as an eighteen year old i did. and so i learned right away in me and i've seen it with a lot on. when you who when you're asked where you're from be very specific
me because when i. tell them you're from oregon if they press it so your cologne in whatever you do don't show your make. show and you need to you both have this experience of being able to hear the prejudice without people realizing that the people they're being rude about the person they're talking to so this idea of only looking white couldn't easy and first of all i need to tell me what looking my kidneys and even me. what is done. to be honest i was wrong. i actually don't know what looking micronation means i mean these are islands that have long histories of colonisation and so for example my last names option either so i'm part german that was many generations ago and so i think a lot of people in the islands have similar experiences in some german last name or some european connection and so everybody not everybody but a lot of people tend to look mixed and so. what i take when people say to me you
don't look micronesian or you're too pretty to be micronesian in some kind of discrimination against people who are darker skin than me and and that's also just really indicative of the way that discrimination at migrations is so socially acceptable and that people feel comfortable that they can say that to you to your face it's really it was really quite astounding when it will tear you don't even have to little bit because i know shah you've had conversations you've been in conversations where people don't realize that you are my canadian correct tell us about anyone yet tell tell us what one that really stands out. and we were just standing around. and one of their friends. and begin and just. talking about his weekend and he just went off like these micronesians were doing my neighbors and they're such stars and i start the conversation to say hi i'm
a clinician and because we were in an area where there's all cafes and eateries around us the first thing he said was which restaurant you were. because there's been. this there you go tape here but if you're a clinician and you work washing dishes sweeping floors or you will field service and i had to point out that i was yeah i was the gallery director of the art gallery. and he didn't believe it until you actually. like the point that you're bringing up there because i think what i'm hearing from people online is that many people as you said don't believe that micronesians are contributing to society enough so this is a commonly discussed live on you tube from d.c. who says we work and pay taxes into the system while still often being forbidden from using services people continue to discriminate and the only logical explanation is enough phobia but it's a part about talking about using services and paying into the system that i want to
focus on because we heard from a doctor in hawaii who talks about why this matters for people's day to day lives he wrote this piece for one a little simple beat how and dr struggles to care for his micronesian patients and here is what he told the stream in two thousand and eight with the great recession the state of florida in an attempt to save money removed compact migrants from medicaid rolls a legal battle ensued and their participation was reinstated but they were finally kicked off of medicaid in twenty fifteen says made it very difficult for me as a family physician to take care of them. can you explain a bit and what that hardship looks like for people. sure i mean one thing that is important to know is that in before one thousand nine hundred six the migrants were
eligible for off federal public benefits other immigrants were eligible but this change in the one thousand nine hundred six welfare reform act and that shifted the burden for covering health care for low income people who are happened to be cope immigrants to the states and so you know as dr graham might have pointed out what he has kind of bought from this responsibility around the time of the recession they actually shifted coca migrants to a different type of insurance plan that many people in the community say actually cause people to leave the islands and just go home because they didn't want to stay in hawaii if they weren't able to get that care and you know that with the implication that if you go home the you will pass away because they're going to care of air or they think that that helped complicate people's illnesses because they weren't able to get the care that they need in because you know it's very complicated and it's changed over time but now the state provides subsidies for
people who are getting out of the macair but the process is definitely convoluted it's not very straightforward and it's difficult for people and so it's so it's one of the examples of institutional barriers that people face so it's not just hate speech it's also for example you have to renew your license every year and what if you are from migrant instead of having five years the way that i do or the way somebody with a u.s. passport would you also until recently you couldn't serve on boards or commissions and that changed last year and a man joined the civil rights commission but there are just a myriad ways in which institutionally there are barriers if you are called for migrant here he was a custom in the situation where this prejudice and people really annoyed in hawaii americans really annoyed with micronesians being an ally that is a basic knowledge that has gone missing that they don't understand that there was a. deal between the u.s. and some micronesian iran's for their people to be out to come to the states and
receive benefits because meanwhile back in their home there are nuclear experiments going on and using it as military bases except so it's a deal let me give you one example here this is how you leon i'm going to go a little further down into his comment here and he says one hundred percent of low income housing. and how how why allows this when they should not or why waste the billions of micronesians that don't put a dime into the system meanwhile u.s. citizens military veterans are still homeless so this person obviously doesn't know about the deal how do you change that cathy because this is an education process because this is obviously wrong i think that there's a lot of ways to change that i think conversations like these that began from the twitter hashtag you know that that shot began that's actually a really great way to get that conversation going you know and then also the way that i personally change these kinds of these kinds of perspectives is i or i try
to do poetry and so one of the first forms i actually ever wrote and put up on you tube is lessons from hawaii which came from which was inspired by myself my experience of growing up in hawaii and experiencing racism as a micronesian you know and so i really think it's just conversations at this point you know in getting more of our commute the community in hawaii or where of these links because nuclear testing was conducted in the marshall islands after world war two they literally incinerated our one like of more than a few of our islands and one of them beginning at all is still so contaminated we can't return and so that's a big contributing factor kevin feels like a good point to actually play a little bit of your post you little bit of your work this activism at the same time this is a poem called it have a listen everybody you know i really want. you were right to treat heavy with green slopes of fruits whispering promises of massive new.
crabs dusted with white sand scuttled through pendants us then you became testing ground nine nuclear weapons soon one by one by one engulfed in an inferno of blazing heat. you became crater and seatbelt. caught it is you what changed people's minds do you feel that your will have an impact your poetry that. i think so i'd like to think so. with the way that that's been demonstrated to me in the past i've performed these poems to audience members that included people who who knew micronesians but weren't micronesians and they actually came up to me afterwards that they queue for sharing that call me about your experience of racism and i didn't think that really existed you know i didn't know that that was happening or i thought that way too and you know now i see how that's wrong so i've actually had quite
a few people come up to me to discuss that with me and so in that way. i think it can contribute at least in a small way and it's not only shared poetry being a kind of bridge for communities that i'm hearing from online but it's also shared history and shared language and people want to remind others about this is old models for been a handle on twitter i went to an all hawaiian high school and heard x. stresses and looks like a micronesian or worse uses an insult like every week hawaii locals including native hawaiians all have a responsibility to say something about it when our friends and family it's perpetrate this racism so i want to share with you a comment from someone who is doing just that this is a fairly long post on facebook about the similarities between polynesians and micronesians and he sent us a video comment that i want to share with you have a listen to this. it's
not true we're really. seeing. shoes running shoes. aren't. long. she. how they don't help us we clean our own interests and does not do the our affairs in consumer confidence the hatred directed to work them is nothing short on a warning shot what do you think when you hear messages like. especially because it's adding the name of adam. i think for all that he went into creating the thread the greatest part of it is how many people have come out
as is allies as supporters as or standing with us in solidarity whether their alliance more than we have or who contacted us from germany brazil it's just i think that's been the most amazing part of this i always wanted to point out. yes there were a lot of native hawaiians in the media comments however in the grand scheme of things there have been more leader who winds up come out in support than not and i still met more wonderful people here than i otherwise and so i think it's heartwarming and it gives me hope. yes this is generally how system. one group will use kind of. but at the same time maybe we should. starting sean just thinking because this company is still between the u.s. and. some white conies in states that it's a it's about funding it's
a we give you this you get that it's spies in twenty twenty three i'm just wondering it's not a perfect deal right now all of all other top will go see a sions about how you have a better relationship if my kidneys are being invited into the u.s. how does that how to how do you have a good relationship when that happens. i tend to run along the rabble rouser and when it comes to the compact only because. my personal area of interest is studying the contact and what led up to it and so one of the things that i've tried teaching people since that since the thread and even before that was the contact was never necessarily created. as a way to benefit of my creations it was created as a way for the united states to hold on. for military for. and. in the sixty's which is when the following report came out some of the report was
commissioned by president kennedy and that came right after the united nations had issued resolutions fourteen which was saying that colonized lands needed to be returned to people to schools how it works around they could keep us as a colony but they could convince us that free association was the best way to go so that we could keep receiving funds and they keep. it's very interesting to see what happens in twenty twenty three it's not that far away it's really known that that will tell you where the mindset of the micronesian states is do they need american money are they ok about going forward with the al ticket or whether it be renewed or what have another show like this shah i need to cathy thank you so much for bringing your insight into russia and sharing with us the prejudice that happens in some parts of america and hawaii with people from i could easier. i am going to
share one other date with their audience here this is from mary perot's who shares wednesday october seventeenth twenty eighteen the committee that's why advisory committee to the u.s. commission on civil rights will hear testimony and firsthand accounts of discrimination against hope immigrants and hawaii she says they're used as a noun hearing implies active listening these hearings are a venue for voices of marginalized micronesians to be heard and a chance for others to hear truth in the land of aloha and the country of the free and the brave the truth of discrimination is real all right so that's all for to say but be sure to keep your comments coming and you can use twitter you to point out a zero dot com forward slash the strain and you can i will always see you on live by phone now.
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