tv Inside Story 2020 Ep 162 Al Jazeera June 11, 2020 2:32pm-3:01pm +03
drudge statues should be removed from the capitol building in washington but below sea max a legal authority to remove the leaven statues. protesters in sports smith virginia meanwhile tar fought a monument to the u.s. confederacy massages of soldiers a force to keep slavery were destroyed and sprayed spray painted with one falling on top of protesters the number of confirmed corona virus infections in the u.s. has now passed 2000000 but all 50 states have eased restrictions and are in the process of reopening thousands of new cases a still being confirmed every day and brazil is now reporting more daily kovac 1000 deaths in any country in the world as infections continue to rise despite those shops are reopening insall pato and rio de janeiro have been more than 39000 kovac 1000 deaths across brazil those are the headlines inside story is next.
george floyd is finally laid to rest his death sparked an unprecedented wave of anger against racism both in the u.s. and globally so as the world mourns floyd what will it take to in racism this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program i'm. african-american george floyd has been buried in his hometown he's going to change the world according to his brother it's hope this story will become a turning point in the fight against racism and that's not just in the u.s.
rallies over racial oppression and police brutality are spanning continents from the u.k. to senegal tens of thousands of people are kneeling or chanting i can't breathe the gestures represent the moments a white police officer knelt on floyd's neck john hendren reports from the city of houston where floyds funeral took place on tuesday. george floyd's tragic journey ends in a houston cemetery but across the u.s. the movement he inspired continues a montage of demonstrations in floyd's name plate is his funeral displays his legacy and inspires a call to action from civil rights leaders so the average that it's gone. and made him the cornerstone of a movement as a coach a whole wide work friends and family remember the man they knew is perry or big floyd and liz member. hola and.
i was one of. them i love you and. i think god forgive me give me my own personal superman this is not just murder but a. happy memories from. now that's all i have are green. right dear olympic come home baby you should have good it's not much but it's the life of the man who died beneath a policeman's need was celebrated by members of congress and a presidential candidate who spoke directly to floyd's daughter giana now is the time for racial justice that's the answer must give to our children when they ask why. because when there is justice for george florey. who truly be on our way to
racial justice in america and then she said she. changed the world the funeral followed memorial in minneapolis in north carolina and a viewing in houston attended my thousands who remembered his final words i can't breathe in the weeks and months and years after these people have left this ceremony george floyd may well be best remembered as an accidental agent of change someone who transformed the world less by what he did than by what was done to him some who didn't make the invitation list inside said they were outside because they're concerned about the next generation. to. have a brand of phone. and you know the sad. thing so when you hear stories like the one about mr floyd what does it make you think. george floyd was buried next to his mother in
the place he once called home is gone miss you george. made sure it is going to always remember. he left behind children a family and a movement they hope will end the pattern of unarmed african americans dying at the hands of police john hendren al jazeera houston. in the u.s. where the protests began policymakers are beginning to respond to protesters demands u.s. democratic leaders have proposed a bill demanding sweeping police reforms. in the u.k. a statue of an 18th century slave trader has been removed from outside a museum in london and the u.n. has reversed the ban on staff taking part in anti-racism protests days after it instructed employees not to in france chokeholds used by arresting officers are now forbidden and dutch prime minister mark ruta has confessed he's had to reconsider a local tradition of using so-called blackface make up at christmas.
all right let's bring in our guests from columbus ohio triva lindsey associate professor of women's gender and sexuality studies at the ohio state university from johannesburg tembisa could a researcher at the al-jazeera center for studies and from pisa italy udo and where it was or head of race and ethnicity equality for cost cooperation for the development of emerging countries a warm welcome to you all let me start with you you wrote a piece last week that says the push to acknowledge and rally around black women and girls victimized by police violence remains an uphill battle the peace also says the comparative lack of mobilized outrage for the killing of black women and girls it is an injurious eraser why is it such an uphill battle why did the killing for example of briana taylor a health worker who was shot 8 times by police who entered her apartment in louisville kentucky in march why is that only become more widespread in the past
few weeks. yes thank you for that question and thank you for having me today i think one of the major issues we have to contend with is the way that we police killings particularly in the united states context and something that is uniquely a disproportionately affecting lapid employs in our nation and while black men and boys are most likely to be gunned down proportionately speaking by police violence black women and girls are also 1.4 times more likely than white women to be killed by police and often in our homes so one of the main reasons i think is that we see a number of the deaths of black women at the hands of police officers there in the domestic space there in the home space like up beyond that hitler so there is no darnell appraiser who was the 17 year old black girl who filmed the murder of to exploit so really back up and give us a sense of what that kind of violence looks like we saw that 7 year old i honestly jones in 2010 in detroit another raid that went wrong in which the 7 year old girl
was killed in her own home or black women who i mentioned to stress and the police are called on them an end up killed like really gold and or deborah danner and so there is this large history of black women they think both they don't balance and also sexual violence at the hands of police that has yet to cause the kind of war they're looking for beyond of taylor in the in the taylor cave the 3 officers who were possible for the rape still have not been arrested and so there is mobilization of these local contacts and of rowing but that is i would have and that say her name that hash tag that came into existence in 2015 so began to reckon with our own race share of black women and girls and to reckon with the sexism that often impacts how we mobilize around the death and who we organize around the pushes that we make to address that kind of i have to be from your vantage point what does it say to you that protests are not just happening in the u.s.
that they that they have spanned. well it's been quite interesting to see the growing international solidarity against racism and we have been through this in south africa over the years we also lives on in the international community to to push back the negativity that we go on in this country so this for me is some sort of the resumption of that sort of verity movement or we saw during the days when most next of kins and wait for the and for fighting against the dismantling of the party government so this is triggered something which is i guess the party's collapse in 1004 something that has been very necessary we have seen in the media mentions of ultra nationalists in racism and xenophobia around the world particularly after the 2
main events it was the nexus of the mccrum and bets that these people have somehow being emboldened to to go out and create this new normal way races in the senate for via and citizen was becoming a number of if it's quite a interesting times and i think inside africa we we've seen the you know stop it ness of a pop date. no means the fuse into 2 to go away from a society so this is what has happened in the united states it has kind of resuscitated the movement even against africa we have to protest as well and. this is probably the most likely to continue giving even post because it's not done that we're currently in at the moment you know there have been protests in italy in spain belgium denmark hungary were you surprised to see protests and so many
different parts of europe and what does this say about how widespread racism is in european countries. indeed there have been protests across them across here of across cities across europe i don't i must say i 5 find all this very encouraging because in recent days many of those of us in that i'm to resist movement will have kind of felt some sometimes isolated. that time professes violence or offense it is somewhat different from that the case of the us in the sense that why we don't have c.d.'s cases of. profiling racial profiling by the place across them a member states i can't talk about the states. are the ones much why would you have a lot serious problem suffer issue profiling we didn't have casey said it will buy
placed though that it's a dance they. may have seconds that's less but then popular support popular support against at times. very serious cases of risk is violence it into death has been has not been that much and we're sentient so what is happening to us house back to support that can't be fixed it's absolutely encouraging. that because it's brought in many young people including young people of african descent. yeah so so much imam that of course they do have that. generation they have their own way off of protesting of taking care of issues on social media and so on but that did not indict much much industry as that but if you had generations and good in mind we were fostered at the time so what has happened this last week to be honest has been encouraging and it is
a challenge when the civil society organizations have to pick up from here bid on it to make sure the momentum is not lost i'm not pushing it if i change or have. really struggling to the took advantage of a tree there are growing calls in the u.s. now to defund the police from your point of view would that actually help address systemic racism and if not what steps need to be taken in order to do that. it's a great question and i think when we hear deep on the police we don't buck at all in the us when we defund public schools but we defund health care systems and social services we had that happen all the time. that happened in these industries and i think what's important in this moment for defunding police is a means for those of us with in an abolitionist tradition what working to abolish the police which is one of the part that we see happening in years but it's really
been spearheaded over the last few decades by people like angela davis the gilmore mary of. this tradition of thinking about what is a world without leasing what is a world without prisons and so deep funding to believe means taking those resources that localities districts give to police say for surveillance and other means of controlling the population not protecting and serving and be investing that money into programs like educational programs like social services like aiding that they really do impact public safety having affordable housing matters for public safety and in a public health approach to drug addition of drug addiction as opposed to life in approach really helps in that space and so i think what we're seeing these calls for deepening the police and more of a groundswell around that work robust debate around what that means is what are we willing to invest in and saying that we're willing to invest in
a system that is deeply tied to systemic racism in this nation policing or. ride from slavery trolls from swishing labor from protecting property the chicken we white men's property and the wet and looking ordinary history these are the afterlives a city apartment with say a racist system so it's not the system it's broken it's working exactly the way it was designed to do which is tips loike to harm to surveil and to police tolls on the margins in our nation. and that is black people that it's just an of people brown people keep up with disabilities and people without happen at all and so the deep funding of police gets to need a gret that money and eventually work for a public safety that is community based that is community center and that focuses on the each of the community which in fact would help us reduce crime scene models like that camden new jersey being one of them or we saw defunding it to standing up the police department to a different model and you saw it. in violent crime it's of this is not something
that is untested and then but i think it how it has to have a new imagination that we have to imagine a world without and this movement feels like an opportunity to do that we have to be imagination to be as i want to try and expand on some of what you were saying in your previous answer i want to ask you more specifically for black south africans is what happened to george floyd does that seem like an extension of their own collective experience with police brutality. what are your cities and ensuring our project we have we had similar incidents asserting maybe within the play to play society but i want to i want to touch on your previous question. i do support the the you know the taking away of the budget and the funding of these in fact i'll go credit to say we need to even to fund some of the defense departments in certain countries and take that money and use it to fight racism i think what what has
happened but to question sir there's been a situation where people started feeling too comfortable. and forgetting that the fight against racism is a permanent occupation and i'm one of those who believe that we should have a permanent department or minister within our government that will continually deal with issues of sexism discrimination and racism because it smart a part try and responsibility something that's supposed to go on and continue because racism rebels have a certain moment and it's not only police of the bitrate just kind of things all trigger situations where people parties but a lot of instances where the subtle racism going on in different places that in our society so we have had this kind of situation it's because and unfortunately those
days you know suggestions negative funding police or military apologises and some of the guards not discussion but i'll argue that you've now got to extending the political situation to find ourselves and it is cold with debating not only in the united states but around the world of defunding and taking some of the money from the police and defense ministries and put it elsewhere where you can fight under racism. how much of these protests are also essentially against right wing and populist politics which have emerged in many european countries in the wake of the braggart referendum and the election of u.s. president donald trump. well very much so i must say because racism has driven. a stent in the last decade in europe in the european union and benteke that racism is candy driven by rightwing groups and right wing political
groups including political about these including prominent member has and is about this so that movement it's a reaction a challenge to to to that extreme it's political views to have been around the house led to very serious cases back in italy we had where. in 2008 when federal would record that they had a range of violent resistance i think. that it will be a shopping district something we we don't read anywhere and have a menu face by file and violent extremist discussed and science into it to hate. against them migrants and refugees bit discuss them to so-called micro migration crisis because i think and you know in the e.u. and you know in particular at the end from 201314 how often has they said that backing is pushed forward by these groups that that their reaction was hot the
protestors in europe is also a reaction to search him to such a political estimate to spread expressionist and green eyes and that from my mother it is. there are a lot of polls that have been conducted in the u.s. right now that are that are showing that a majority of americans are viewing the killing of george floyd as indicative of a broader problem with law enforcement in the u.s. instead of it just being seen as an isolated episode how much pressure is this going to put on lawmakers in the u.s. to take steps to reforming these policing policies. i think it's going to be a considerable amount of pressure we're also in an election year in the u.s. and of course this is all happening amidst a global pandemic which is a certain. a certain magnifying glass to problems that are already existing that we're looking at unemployment we're looking at different health care outcomes etc
so seems systemic racism in a number of different way has played out in the last few months and i think this was just the final straw for really getting lawmakers to see we have to be explicit about our commitments to address a systemic racism to addressing police say so already you have the democrats in congress posing a justice and police a presidential candidate joe biden just came up with a $300000000.00 push for police reform and i think what we're seeing in response to that is people like this feels like a different moment in terms of rallying around before that there are people who are invested in reform it back to them or people at this moment interested as well in something other than reform pushing beyond reform too but i think what that gives. us is finally attempting to reckon with this long and its history of race that leasing up by its policing and that lawmakers are quite to have to make statements
or quite to have to be putting their names on bills talking in communities talking with organizers who are on the front lines about what in fact is a progressive resolution to this long standing problems and although reformist some of the language that we're going to see most lawmakers made i'm very curious to see how many lawmakers really come out on the side of say we need a radical bench and this like with the city council in the attic this was going to say you know we have a veto proof majority that invested in cutting ties with the minneapolis police department and the imagining something else. $1150000000.00 from the los angeles and i think we're going to see those across locales in the nation to say what are we to the committee and our. 'd ard. uncomfortable work addressing a systemic racism into the thing and the criminal justice system work rightly
tembisa there is a conversation that is going on all over the world right now in which people are trying to figure out how to overcome racism from your perspective can racism actually be overcome and if so how can what i think because of trade to the concentration on legislation. with the goal that legislation could really create racism i don't think that alone could do the work i think we should have or encourage some partnerships between the city society government and business in continually coming up with complaints that will fight racism legislation along want help all actually help eradicate racism we've seen it in south africa which has been for years a person of racism that it didn't work you have government that has been very
active in trying to come up with laws and you know times basically the same people who are accused of racism but that alone will not work out more of the view that the only way we can 'd deal with this challenge just racism is if we have partnerships between sips society government business continual engagement and organization organizing of campaigns that will create awareness particularly within the youth great awareness within the minorities and majority. majority communities with countries for example like america you have certain parts of the united states where people are not even aware that they're being racist because they're a lot of sensitive then racist and so are most of you that complaints which can be organized by both businesses so it's a certain government. all right we are run out of times we're going to have to
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