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this is bbc news. ifjoe biden has a very good night on november the third, the jewel in his new crown would be georgia. the southern state is changing, becoming less republican and more democratic. once a bastion of the old south, the state is younger, more diverse and more urban. the peach state is turning purple. manchester is placed under the highest level of covid restrictions despite pushbacks from local leaders. business owners there say they may not survive. also in the programme.... scientists in the uk will deliberately infect volunteers with covid 19, as they seek to better understand the virus and how future vaccines might fight it. and we will tell you about
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katty‘s hugely delayed fight from miami to atlanta, and all because a passenger refused to wear a mask. hello i'm katty kay in atlanta, georgia, christian fraser is in london. we've talked about whether the polls are wrong and whether trump can still win this election. but there's another possibility — a huge repudiation of donald trump's presidency that sweeps democrats into office across the country. we're not saying it's going to happen, but with the polls as they are, it is a possibility strategists from both parties are talking about. and, if there is a big blue wave, georgia will be the crest — the sign of a very good night forjoe biden. nationally — in the polls — joe biden is ahead of donald trump by an average of 9
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points. and that lead has helped tighten the polls in georgia a new new york times polljust out has them tied at a5. georgia has 16 of those essential electoral college votes — no democrat has won it since bill clinton in 92. and this year, unusually, there are also two senate seats up for grabs in georgia both races too close to call. enthusiasm is high — 1.7 million georgians have already voted. texas is the biggest southern state that democrats would love to flip. but most people think that's still a few years off — if democrats can take georgia this november they will be very happy. i think george's, go blue. it's gonna happen if not now then when? we have to change this country. people are tired. the historic nature of the ticket is bringing out a lot of enthusiasm. and georgia is no longerjust
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a black, white state it's an extraordinarily diverse state. what we're seeing is the enthusiasm and momentum from georgians across the state who really want to vote forjoe biden and kamala harris. i'm feeling really good. based on the early turnouts, early voting i am feeling really comfortable and confident. one woman trying to help that blue shift is dana barrett. she's a former radio host turned politician and is now running for congress in georgia's 11th district. it's a traditionally republican district — but it's getting more diverse so dana barrett hopes its indicative of the new georgia. so dana, we are two weeks out from election day, and is this what campaigning looks like in the time of covid? this is pretty much how i spend two to for hours at least every weekend and now that were getting closer were going to do it during the week too. because you can'tjust do coffee shop advance the in person as much right? we've actually got an in person tonight
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but it's really the first one that we've had in months. and it's outside, socially destines only a handful of people. it's further out in the district a little northwest of here. i'm excited for that. i started thinking people were all 2d. i found out that 3d. i'm happy. they're not all on zoom. but your republican competitor, are they doing in person events 7 are republicans being as strict about social distancing? yeah, that's one of our disadvantages is that my opponent is walking around without a mask, not taking covid seriously and putting people at risk to knock doors and, i think is doing more events than knocking doors to be fair. he's at churches, he's definitely out, meeting people. and we are not doing that because we don't want to put peoples lives at risk. covid aside, the campaign aside what you can do as a democrat, what you can do as a republican, this is tough. do the chances of a democrat taking it are
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slim. the numbers that everybody is using to sort ofjudge this race don't actually tell the full story of this district. it's changing 7 the district is changing very dramatically top cherokee county which is the portion of the district is now is now the fastest growing county in metro atlanta. meaning younger, more dense, more diverse and so that's all good for democrats. i guess the big question is is this the year? democrats have long had the fantasy of georgia becoming democratic. the fantasy of texas becoming democratic. is 2020 the year that does it for georgia? this is the craziest year any of us can ever remember. this is a huge opportunity for us. i think we have the right people in place. in our district there's never been a woman running. i'm the first woman to run. you're the first woman to run in this district? yes it's been all men. honestly, it's been a lot of democratic name on ballot. there's not been people seriously campaigning and seriously raising money for something we are doing all of that.
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is the democratic party helping you out? are they paying attention to your race and hoping to flip george's 11 districts? they really aren't. i understand that it's, there's a lot going on in our state right now with new two senate races and a couple of really contentious congressional races and of course the presidential. on the other hand, i think everybody is underestimating this district. we think we are seeing is pointing to a much closer raised in this district. then anyone's predicting. so i'm hoping for a big night on election night. i'm thinking that all the national news and everybody‘s going to be like where did this district come from? who is dana barrett7 what is going on there? good luck on election night. thank you. we will be watching the 11th district of georgia. she hopes she can shrink that 35 point lead get it a little bit down. i suspect if she
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doesn't win this time around we may be seeing more of her in the future. so how's georgia gone from one of the most conservative states in the nation to a possible democrat pick up? for one thing, there are simply more people living here. since 2018, georgia registered 800,000 new voters. nearly half of them are people of colour. the state is also getting younger — with half of all voters under the age of a5. and they are increasingly well educated, and urban. atlanta is the 11th fastest growing metro area in the country. we'rejoined by tamar hallerman — the senior reporter at the atlanta journal—constitution. thank you forjoining us. is this the year that finally democrats will manage to flip georgia from red to blue or a little too soon? you talk to democrats and they are in sounding increasingly bullish about their chances. not only of flipping some more house seats potentially
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taking one if not two senate seats they are even starting a thorough serious money into presidential contest here. what would it take do you think of for them to get to make this a democratic when on november the 3rd? they're going to have to do a couple of things. first of all they're really going to have to drive up turnout and members of their base. that especially turning out african—american voters who make up out african—american voters who make up the backbone of the democratic party here in georgia. and tend to vote in droves for democrats. not only that but they need to win over suburban voters. especially college educated white women who have historically gone for the republican side. but really dislike trump. that's where we see a lot of movement here over the past. hillary clinton in 2016 managed to flip to long—time republican strongholds in the north atlanta suburbs. safety abrams was able to drive up votes for democrats there helping democrats flip a long—time
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republican us house district. helping more than a dozen democrats flip house seats and hoping to do that again on an even broader scale this year. it's surprising and mind of everything that you just said, how little job biting of everything that you just said, how littlejob biting is spending in monetary terms in georgia. i look at the spend for september —— i didn't. he spent a short of $1 million compared to trump in the big republicans who spend around 11 million. which tells us in how they're trying to defend georgia. you think given that new york times poll where they are neck and neck you would think the democrats might be shoveling more money into it. at the same time considering how republican georgia has been as you noted, georgia has not voted for a democrat for president since 1992. it's amazing that the trump campaign has had to spend so much money to defend for years ago he won by five percentage points. what's also interesting is we are starting to see joe biden advertise a lot more. his campaign was on television re ce ntly his campaign was on television recently with ads targeting black
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men who traditionally lean democratic but perhaps don't turn out in numbers as high as black women. they really are hoping to drive up those vote totals especially in the city of atlanta really just have drones especially in the city of atlanta reallyjust have drones of liberal voters. another note number that jumped out at me today is the swing voters in georgia. there aren't many of them. at the guys are a figure of around 8%. and they could be crucial if it's as tight as the polls tell us. if it's as tight as the polls tell us. if there are still to make their mind up in these final two weeks whether they can be watching on thursday night? exactly. you're absolutely right they are fighting over a smaller and smaller group of undecided voters. historically independence in georgia who don't identify with one—party tend to vote republican. what's so interesting a lot of the polls this year it showing just how muchjoe biden has been able to capture and a lot of those polls. and that showing down the ballot as well. a lot of the undecided voters i talk to especially suburban women who tend
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to lean republican really dislike on a charm, they care a lot about those kitchen table issues like the economy, health care they are very concerned about the coronavirus and the way that the president is talking about it and saying bad things about tony fauci and all sorts of scientific experts. they are looking to be consoled a little bit during thursday's debate and feel like president trump has it. based on the interviews that i don't so based on the interviews that i don't so far, a lot of those women who voted for donald trump very relu cta ntly voted for donald trump very reluctantly in 2016 in georgia many of them are looking to joe reluctantly in 2016 in georgia many of them are looking tojoe biden this year. an important point that you made that the top of the ticket can you made that the top of the ticket ca n affect you made that the top of the ticket can affect those down ballot races as well. really good to talk to you. come back on the programme and talk to us soon. katty if we are looking at numbers borders on election night and good to be looking at those midwest states. michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin also ohio. a probably next on my list is georgia. if the democrats take that, that's gonna be a big headline.
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i'm not looking at georgia as part is that magic to 70 number thatjoe biden has to get, right? he'll get those like you said from getting those like you said from getting those midwestern states perhaps getting florida. georgia if you like isa getting florida. georgia if you like is a great big fat dollop of icing on the cake. it means that he's having a really great night, he's already cruised to 270, he's got his battle grounds and this is something he gets as a bonus prize. and probably gets because there is a blue wave and a little bit earlier than democrats might have taken georgia. if donald trump is being blown out of the water than i think that's when you see georgia flip to joe biden. that's when you see georgia flip to joe biden. 0k and those two senate seats as well. crucially important. will talk plenty more about atlanta and georgia but let's get some of the days other news. let's get some of the days other news. the french government has ordered a mosque to close for six months after it shared videos condemning the teacher who was beheaded on friday after showing cartoons of the prophet muhammad
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to his pupils. the mosque later removed the videos. more than a dozen people have been connected in connection with mr paty‘s death, who was shot by police shortly after the beheading. the danish inventor who was jailed over the killing of a swedish journalist in 2017 has been recaptured after attempting to escape from prison near copenhagen. peter madsen reportedly told police that he had a bomb but was eventually captured. madsen is serving a life sentence for the murder of kim vahl, whose body was found on a beach more than a week after she boarded his submarine for an interview. the us government has filed charges against google, accusing the company of using its market power to dominate internet searches and online advertising. the lawsuit marks the biggest challenge brought by us regulators against a major tech company in years and follows more than a year of investigation. google has called the case "deeply flawed". the british government has announced that from this friday, the greater manchester region
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willjoin the many parts of northern england to be placed under the highest level of restrictions. a week of unsuccessful negotiations between the local government and downing street failed to get manchester off the list. it means that most pubs and bars will close, and there will be extra restrictions on household mixing. leading the negotiations for greater manchester, was labour's andy burnham, who had been seeking a financial support package of at least 65 million pounds. earlier today he announced he had been unable to come to an agreement with westminster. he says a lack of support will mean a "winter of hardship" for many people. we are asking a lot of the public at this difficult time. and we need to carry them with us not crush their spirit. we need national unity and that is why i now look to parliament to intervene. and make a judgement on a fair financial framework for tier 3 markdowns. because make no mistake, this was not just about greater manchester, more parts of the country may find themselves in a tier
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3 lockdown at some point this winter. speaking earlier, prime minister borisjohnson once again dismissed the idea of a short so—called ‘circuit break‘ lockdown, similar to what was announced for wales and ireland yesterday, saying that the second wave of the coronavirus has been unevenly spread across the uk. the announcement comes as the uk on tuesday recorded 241 deaths — that's up from 80 deaths that were reported on monday. for more on today's developments let's speak to our political correspondentjessica parker. a lot of people have problems understanding why they can come to an agreement. because the government has spent in total hundred and £90 billion supporting business and employees. here they seem to be 5 million apart. that is a drop in the ocean when you consider what they spent. they are 5
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million apart. they you are quite right there's beena they you are quite right there's been a day of wrangling and what you hear from leaders as they came in with a pitch of £90 million, money they want to help small businesses and workers where businesses may be are forced to close. the government eventually offered £60,000,000, greater manchester leaders came down to £65 million and now there is this sta ndoff to £65 million and now there is this standoff over as you say £5 million. which is not a lot of money when you compare it to the amount that is already been spent through the covid pandemic was up however, what the government is saying is that they have already put certain areas, like a chairand have already put certain areas, like a chair and liverpool city region into tier3 a chair and liverpool city region into tier 3 restrictions. the highest year of restrictions. and they want to throw them back out of kilter by giving greater manchester a disproportionate amount of money for top the counter argument is that greater manchester has already been under some level of restriction, extra restrictions for three months. businesses are hugely feeling the
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strain. the argument from local leaders there is that greater manchester is coming at this from a different position and that's why they need the extra cash and that those leaders have already made quite a lot of compromises in terms of the money they are asking for. the covered his aim to £60 million of are still on the table just not quite clear whether local leaders are ready to take it. reminds me a little bit of the stimulus negotiation going on here and not managing to get far either. boris johnson ran promising to invest in the north of england and boost the north of england as. there is now the north feel they are being penalised singled out at the moment? that is certainly the argument being made by a number of labour politicians. borisjohnson made by a number of labour politicians. boris johnson a conservative prime minister. still oi'i conservative prime minister. still on the platform to level up the country. which translated was a term for tackling regional inequality. you've heard before about the red wall in the uk. this number of seats in the north of england and the
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midlands as well traditionally held by the labour party. borisjohnson meeting is to seize a number of those seats. of course those northern tory mps will be anxious to hold onto their seats and to be seen to be doing right by their constituents. there is a political risk at play here for boris johnson. because labour politicians including burnham are basically accuse him have a leveling down. the government is saying they've offered a huge package of government support and this extra money for businesses is pa rt of this extra money for businesses is part of that. 0k, ok, jessica, thank you very much. for those watching on bbc world news — we'll be right back. they were 24—hour period. our health and itare they were 24—hour period. our health and it are few payment reports.
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chief medical officer made clear he expected the death number to rise from there in the days and weeks to come. there was a lot of focus in the northwest of england. charts were shown demonstrating the number of patients in hospital with covid has been rising number of new admissions rising and it's the highest in england. you can see the younger age groups pushing their the green and blue the number of new cases per 100,000 in the northwest falling for that that's partly because of high number of tests before it carries on rising in the older age groups. but it does appear to be flattening a bit after a quite steep increases. cases are people newly diagnosed. isaid i said three it's 21,311 of course. the uk is pushing ahead to become the first country in the world to conduct challenge trials where
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volu nteers conduct challenge trials where volunteers are deliberately infected with coronavirus. healthy volunteers will spend two weeks at a clinical trial in london and be monitored for side effects for up to a year. the research is part of global efforts to try and find ineffective vaccine but experts in medical ethics are divided whether such a study is acceptable. largely because there is no highly effective treatment for covid—19. our medical editor fergus falls has more. falls has more. estefania wants to be deliberately infected with coronavirus. good girl! ..all in the name of science. she's part of 1day sooner, a group which is campaigning for so—called challenge trials. for a young, healthy person, the probabilities of me dying or anything is very, very low. so when i think about what society gains by getting a vaccine sooner, i'm not that worried about the risks. thousands of people, like edward, are part of covid vaccine trials
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but it could be months before we know whether the jab protects them against coronavirus. in a challenge trial, volunteers are immunised and then infected with the virus, so it's clear straightaway if the vaccine works. scientists need to know how much coronavirus is required to ensure that the volunteers get infected. so the first people on the trials won't get a vaccine, they'll simply get a predetermined dose of coronavirus. now, amazingly, there are thousands of people ready to sign up for this sort of thing. so, up to two weeks they'll spend in here, so they'll be closely monitored. those taking part will need to be aged between 18—30 and are likely to receive around £11000. but what about the potential dangers of getting covid—197 so we're only going to be innoculating people who have the very lowest potential risk for a severe outcome.
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the trial has been designed that they will have very minimal disease, potentially not even any symptoms. gary is a challenge trial veteran. he's had malaria as part of one study and this is him drinking a solution laced with typhoid bacteria. the experimental typhoid vaccine he was trailing worked and is now saving lives. really, the confirmation that you really were part of something which really made a huge difference to lives around the world, you know, we're talking thousands of people that can now benefit from a typhoid vaccine, yeah, that was pretty fantastic. the world owes a debt of gratitude to all the medical volunteers but especially those ready to get a disease. challenge studies don't replace conventional trials but they might just speed up the process of finding out which coronavirus
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vaccines work best. fergus walsh, bbc news. hats off to those volunteers. important. tell me a little bit. i wa ke important. tell me a little bit. i wake up this morning to your tweets. tell me a little bit about your plane journey what time were you supposed to get into georgia into atla nta 7 you supposed to get into georgia into atlanta? it was all super civilized was that we left miami we just on the show we went straight to the airport, we should have got to atla nta the airport, we should have got to atlanta at 930 in the evening. we ended up getting here at 230 in the morning. do you want to know why? because it was one passenger on oui’ because it was one passenger on our delta flight from miami to atlanta who refused to wear a mask and then got into an altercation with one of the crew members. i have to say that delta staff were fantastic. they we re delta staff were fantastic. they were good tempered, super nice. there you see. in altercation. look, the partner of hope wouldn't wear a mask ends up shoving her. little
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fleet not literally shoving her over. at which point everybody jumped out of their seat in including your intrepid reporter and sta rts including your intrepid reporter and starts filming. i wanted to do an interview. our young producer was holding me back. i'll tell you my inner instincts were there. this is the guy he's coming up and look up there, i don't know if you can see, in the door they've sent in miami's finest. it took armed miami police men to come onto the plane in order to persuade these guys to leave. do you think they would've got on the plane and said i'm not can wear a seat belt? i'm not that, i'm gonna smoke in the plane. it's ridiculous, right7 smoke in the plane. it's ridiculous, right? you have to wear a mask is the policy. but it's become so politicized to people there. the policy. but it's become so politicized to people therem the policy. but it's become so politicized to people there. it has around the country. i'm not sure if they would be belligerent frankly for top i think there was just in a grump and didn't want to wear a mask. and then they start on the jetway for an hour over another hour late. i was nice and patient and kind and good tempered like this out. there is always on that ruins it for all.
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there is always on that ruins it for all. there is ‘someone' who has covered more miles than katty kay this week. and that's mildred madison. she is 94 years old and from detroit. but she has recently been staying with her son in zion, illinois. until she realised that her absentee ballot from detroit, had gone astray. it had not been re—directed. so, only one thing for it. mildred — who clearly takes her civic duty very seriously, had her son drive her to detroit on a 600 mile round trip, to cast that vote. she's voted in every election, in city, state, county and national elections, for the last 72 years. and mildred was not there to stop this time around. she's got a mask on, she's got her mask on and she's just been driven 300 miles. good for mildred. well done. she would not have been thrown off that delta flight. have been thrown off that delta flight. i'm still in a grump. i'm glad i wasn't there. stay with us plenty more
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coming up. hello there. it's been a very wet start to the week across parts of scotland and northern ireland, but as we reach the middle parts of the week it's england and wales that will bear the brunt of some of the heaviest rain and also some pretty windy weather thanks to a new area of low pressure moving up from the south. and he could cause a few issues with the chance of some localised flooding in some places. this area of low pressure has been affecting much of the western side of the uk during tuesday. it's brought some heavy rain to northern ireland into southwestern and western parts of scotland. it's going to linger on here through the course of the night and is going to be quite windy too. to the south there will be quite a bit of cloud around, if you showers and then across the extreme south we will see this new area of low pressure moving up to bring some heavy persistent
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rain by the end of the night. but it will introduce some very mild air, 12 to 1a degrees here. nine to 11 degrees further north. we have still got this front of strong winds affecting the north of scotland. this new area of the pressure will be pushing up across england and wales, and is named by the spanish met service as storm barbara. it has brought a lot of disruption there. but for us it won't be quite as severe. but could still pack quite a punch and bring some very wet weather. some localized flooding, some atrocious conditions on the road as you move through the morning and for a time in the latter part of the morning into the early afternoon you could see swathes of strong winds, gale force winds affecting the far southeast and through the channels. so strong winds here and also across the north and the west of scotland. in between, blustery but not quite as windy. we will see a mixture of sunshine and showers were longer spells of rain. again, a mild day to come for many, not quite as mild as what we have had on tuesday. but still 15 or maybe 17 degrees will be the high, low teens further north. that area of low pressure just slipped away into
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scandinavia thursday. if it if they hang back with that other low across northern scotland, so could see for the rain and strong winds across northern and eastern scotland. for a while through thursday morning. if you showers further south, there is a ridge of high pressure continues to build in for thursday and then things will turn a bit more settled for the afternoon. increasing amounts of sunshine and the winds also turning a little bit later too. ——lighter but it won't be quite as mild, it will be a cooler air mass. so it will feel fresher with temperatures of 90 maybe 15 degrees closer to the seasonal normal. for friday though we start to see another area of low pressure pushing into northern and western areas. the winds will pick up again and it stays very windy with further rain as we head on into the weekend.
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you're watching bbc news with me katty kay in atlanta, christian fraser is in london. our top stories... democrats are pulling ahead in the national polls — and because they're making gains in swing states like georgia — this time around the peach state in play. we try to find clarity in this wild election — we'll speak to a democratic georgia lawmaker — who's supporting trump and the daughter of the president's personal lawyer rudy guilliani— and she's voting biden. also in the programme... the coronavirus pandemic is accelerating in the us — meanwhile president trump takes aim at the top infectious diseases doctor — calling anthony fauci a disaster — who's been around for too long. and: goodbye asbestos — the quebec town renames its community — distancing itself from
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the mineral that went from profitable to poisonous. let's return to the race in georgia where the latest polls suggest things are getting a little tighter — in a state that donald trump won comfortably in 2016. the nyt/sienna poll out tonight has biden and trump tied. only one poll, really we should be looking at the average. but interesting nonetheless. and what effect might that have on the two senate seats, which are both up for grabs this time. history has long favoured republicans here which should give mr trump an advantage. last week he was here for a rally in georgia — which in itself is significant because it shows he needs to defend the state. he did say at the event that if he lost to biden, he might consider leaving the country.
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here he is urging his supporters not to let that happen. i love georgia. i love being with you. this is georgia, this is macon, georgia. we won macon, georgia, we are going to win it again. it's great to be back. and just remember, early voting is under way. get out and vote, go out and vote! donald trump of course in pennsylvania today. vernonjones is democratic state representative for georgia, who has thrown his support behind donald trump. vernon, thank you very much for joining us. i guess i don't even need to ask you why you are supporting donald trump, it is written up on the wall behind you you believe. that's a clear example lam voting you believe. that's a clear example i am voting for donald trump. democrats have failed african americans over the past 50 or 60 years, but every group before them including illegals and so blacks
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have been a captive audience and just like joe biden said if you are not ready for him you are not black. that shows you the bigotry in the democratic party, but this is about results. he has done more for african—americans in the 47 months then the democratic party has in the past then the democratic party has in the pa st 47 then the democratic party has in the past 47 years. historical black coueges past 47 years. historical black colleges have been funded, and are proud graduate of and joe biden what to crime bill that incarcerated masses of black men and women that have destroyed an entire generation. present trumpets, the first step act and many of those nonviolent offenders have been released. more blacks had jobs prior to the pandemic then going back to slavery so pandemic then going back to slavery so this president has a record of accomplishments. back in 2016 donald trump on the 19% of the black male vote in only 2% of african—american women voted for him. do you think this time around then in georgia
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he is going to get a bigger share of the african—american vote, because if he doesn't i don't quite see how he can win the state again. in 2016 the poll said that donald trump had no pathway to winning the election. you saw many in the liberal media as they start to cry with donald trump from the president not hillary clinton. he took about polls, even here in georgia, donald trump there we re here in georgia, donald trump there were no other president has done in re ce nt were no other president has done in recent times when he is a republican had more black votes. that's what he did not have a record, a government re cord did not have a record, a government record of policy to help african americans. this time he could run his record, joe biden does not have a record to run on. ice cube and matter—of—fact just yesterday 50 cents came out for this president, the platinum plan to invest half $1 billion in black blue businesses and creating black jobs no billion in black blue businesses and creating blackjobs no other president, democrat or republican has done anything like that for african americans. georgia being close to the polls, polls are like
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this can be to a person that's doing them. can create whatever narrative they want to get the answer they wa nt they want to get the answer they want ina they want to get the answer they want in a bowl. i can tell you this can present trucks going to get more blacks, probably triple the amount of black people he got last time, because they can see what he's done. he took over the two senate races here in georgia, one of them is a straight up democrat versus republican and that's the incumbent senator perdue, but the other races what you call a jumbled primary, no party declaration, about 20 people in that race and so to compare those two senate races isjust completely... i take your point on that, that's going to run again in january that senate race. for a democratic state representative to raise issues with the democratic party when he is a democrat, it's another for that candidate to then support the president, it's another still for that democratic representative to be crowd surfing ata trump representative to be crowd surfing at a trump rally. i've got pictures
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of you here, you are crowd surfing in this rally showing your enthusiasm for donald trump. have to say in the midst of a pandemic, lots of people in that photograph no masks, no social distancing. here's the bigotry between liberal media and the democratic party. we have had democrats including a former united states senator and a former governor, democrats in georgia, not only did he support a republican president for his reelection, but he even spoke at the republican national convention. but there is not a word from white democrats or the white liberal media. so that's the white liberal media. so that's the bigotry right there. why am i treated differently? because of african—americanjust treated differently? because of african—american just like many treated differently? because of african—americanjust like many in the media... i did not raise that issue. message rate democratic representative. i did not race or colour or background to all, i said it's interesting to see a democrat representative from georgia crowd surfing at a trump rally. welcome a
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note, before you said that you talked about me being a democrat in georgia supporting a republican. that's interesting. why didn't you say that when a democrat from georgia... isjust as interesting with a republican supportsjoe biden, it covered that. if it does not mean anything don't mention it. it does mean something because it shows people are switching that mac shows people are switching that mac shows that people are switching party lines. we have done a lot of coverage of the fact that there are lots of national security republicans who have come out against donald trump in support of jill biden. we've covered that story as well. it's interesting it's actually rarer we find a democrat who is now come out in support of donald trump. it has not happened terribly much over the last year or two but you have done that, and that in itself its two but you have done that, and that in itself it's interesting and you have made your points about why you think that donald trump is better for you. there are democrats will
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come president donald trump... not as many as there are republicans who have come out forjoe biden. but isn't it rare, doesn't it say something that the democratic party is losing control of the african—american vote because there's been a captive audience day in and day out for they know they're going to work for them they don't do anything for african americans? that we have heard from african—americans. we have heard from african-americans. just let me pick up african-americans. just let me pick up on that, that's a good point you made because when you look at the pool tonight actually buy didn't is a lot softer in georgia among african american voters than hillary clinton was. a lot softer. that backs up what you're saying. hillary clinton called black men super predators, and joe biden was the chair of the judiciary committee, they passed a crime bill that destroyed a complete generation of black people. donald trump is never done that and as a matter of fact donald trump can show you where he has helped black people, you cannot
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deny what he's done for historical black colleges or what he's done for opportunity zones districts, you cannot deny what he has done in terms of black unemployment. it's there, the record there is now and some may want to skip over it but me and other independent thinking black african americans, whatever you want to call us, was to the president has done with any republican or democrat including obama for blacks than any one else the past 60 or 50 years. i think going back to abraham lincoln. we have to leave it there, thank you very much forjoining the programme. we will be watching how georgia votes on election night. quick disclosure to the audience here, we lost our satellite leads to your christian during the middle of that so i did not hear about three minutes of the interview but i came in at the tail. it all looks nice and smooth, it's like a duck. under we are paddling like crazy and just about managing to stay on air. i lost some of that but i'm glad i came infor lost some of that but i'm glad i came in for the end of that conversation. first lady melania trump has had to cancel an appearance
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at a campaign event in pennsylvania today — because she is still has a lingering cough after testing positive for coronavirus. the pandemic is the central focus of the election — and notjust because of the first family's health. there are now some 55,000 new cases in the us every day — the highest since july. government figures say infections are rising in 40 states. president trump has turned on dr anthony fauci — his top coronavirus task force member. on a private phone call with his campaign state he called the doctor a disaster — but today on fox news the president was maybe softening the tone — just a little. he's a nice guy. the only thing i say is he is a little bit sometimes not a team player. but he is a democrat. and i think that he'sjust fine. we're joined now by dr seema yasmin — a former cdc disease detective and author of viral bs: medical myths and why we fall for
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them. good to have you. i'm just looking at the figures here, 31 states seeing an increase in new cases, 14 states have hit record hospitalizations in the last week, and we are only in mid—october. not even to the teeth of the flu season yet. what are your concerns? my concerns yet. what are your concerns? my concerns of the all these numbers are going in the wrong direction, so as you mentioned that daily averages are up towards a 60,000 forjust a few days ago we hit 70,000 americans newly diagnosed in one day. the highest number since july 24. at the same time hospitalizations are in 39 states to the point with the numbers of americans in the hospital right now with covid—19 or higher than since august. the judge looked from good news only come from two states, only two states showing a decrease in covid cases come on the other hand we have about 30 with the
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increase is between 10% and 50%. even some state like florida and georgia the numbers of gone up by more than 50%. as you mentioned we are heading into flu season but it is the beginning. things are really bad with the flu bit later on. more towards january and february and i'm worried about this pandemic if we are not doing the right things now in the us to control the spread of covid—19 those same conditions will allow this for the flu. several doctor steps that we are entering quite a difficult few weeks and here in the united states. when i look at what's happening in europe lots of countries imposing new restrictions. do you think that is going to have to happen here and should be happening here? i think it should be happening here? i think it should be happening in some cases. on a regional basis. we have this patchwork pandemic where you see a search burst earlier this year in the northeast and then spread to the southin the northeast and then spread to the south in the southwest and then west and is quite protectable, but now the surge is in the midwest and the northern plains. spreading from
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one region to the other and the concern is with that midwestern states hit really ha rd is with that midwestern states hit really hard right now they are reaching capacity in there i see you beds. what's going to happen to patients who become sick with covid—19 or any other disease the next few months. those hospitals are running out of space. thank you very much forjoining us. all of that playing into the election. at the 2016 republican national convention — the former mayor of new york, rudy giuliani was one of the few nationalfigures to back the then—unlikely republican candidate for president — donald trump. his passion and vim made him a fan favourite with gop voters, and it's easy to see why. this is a man with a big heart who loves people, all people from the top to the bottom, from the middle to the side. i am telling you this because i am sick and tired of the defamation of donald trump by the media and by the clinton campaign.
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i am sick and tired of it. this is a good man! now he is president trump's personal attorney and close ally — and mr guiliani has been front and centre during the re—election camaign — organising the publication of e—mails purportedly from joe biden's son hunter's computer to the new york post — a number of us outlets have been unable to verify the claims made by the newspaper. the former mayor of new york has also made a number of personal attacks on the former vide president's son. but now rudy giuliani's daughter writer and director caroline has written a piece — explaining why she is voting forjoe biden, and joins us now. i was watching your face as you were listening to her father on the stage there. and you were smiling. are you on good terms with your dad? there. and you were smiling. are you on good terms with your dad7|j love my family, we have
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not spoken since the article came out. but we have like so many families in america, we have very significant political differences. what do you make of your father's role within trump's orbit. i think donald trump has created eight toxic climate and the behaviour of so many people around him and many of his supporters is symptomatic of his cruelty and his lack of empathy. and so that's why i really wanted to use my voice and his platform that i have two encourage people to vote forjoe biden have two encourage people to vote for joe biden and have two encourage people to vote forjoe biden and harris because he'sa forjoe biden and harris because he's a decent man who will turn our around. recharge your dad and i understand you have not spoken to him since that article came out but
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does he listen to you, do you have agreements in some places? is he the rudy giuliani we heard there on the republican national convention states or is he measured and open and taking different points of view as well? we have conversations back and forth, i think i've mentioned in the article that i thought i could relate to a lot of people who are feeling overwhelmed by politics because of how difficult those conversations can be. but they are dialogues, and i think i mentioned in the article also that it made me feel very overwhelmed growing up in one of the reasons i chose to read this article now is because they tried very hard to only speak when i have something very specific to say andl have something very specific to say and i saw this overwhelming oppressed feeling that people have that i had growing up and so i thought i could speak to that. that i had growing up and so i thought i could speak to thatm the article use of that corruption
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sta rts the article use of that corruption starts with yes men and women. the cronies to create an echo chamber of lies and subservience to maintain the proximity to power. are you talking about your own data there? i'm talking about everyone that supported donald trump and i think that harris is a great example of why joe that harris is a great example of whyjoe biden will not be living in that type of echo chamber. when he chose her as his vice president i got so excited about the ticket because i feel that it reflected that he is willing to have people that he is willing to have people that challenge him around him, and she is an absolute inspiration to me. i can't believe your dad would not challenge them. i saw he was like post—9/11, everyone saw the role he played. he was a hero. exactly. but he think he has survived in the ministration and others haven't7 survived in the ministration and others haven't? i really don't know.
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i don't have any inside information. i live in los angeles and i'm separate from that world. the reason i'm speaking out is because i thought my voice could help encourage young voters thought my voice could help encourage young voters who feel apathetic and overwhelmed to get out and vote and ijust wanted people to know that they feel their voice does not matter it does. 0k, caroline giuliani helping to get out the vote. thank you very much for joining the programme. it is the podcast with the a—list cast including jack black, and a very timely topic at its centre. academy award winner tim robbins has spent lockdown recording a new comedy — it was meant to be a movie but this is 2020 so it's now a podcast. the subject? a game show hosting, billionaire, and leader of the free world, who is in the final push of his re—election campaign. remind you of anyone? the podcast — bobbo supreme is available on patreon we'll speak to tim robbins in a second — but first here's a clip. we have the crowd coming, right?
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yes, we do, but unless we win wisconsin it's game over, and the weather forecast here is not good to. there are thunderstorms predicted. so what? well, the rally is on the white house lawn. yeah, but i will be covered so what's the big deal. it could be pouring rain on your supporters, i'm not sure that's a good optic. shmoptic. they're coming, we paid them to come, make sure they don't leave her. i'm making a speech when the polls close. that lawn better be packed with bobbolists. and tim robbins, active directory now podcast or is with us. is there anything you don't do?” now podcast or is with us. is there anything you don't do? i try everything once. you try everything once. tell us with this came from this idea, was an inspiration in lockdown7 this idea, was an inspiration in lockdown? i actually wrote about a year and lockdown? i actually wrote about a yearand a lockdown? i actually wrote about a year and a half ago. i was up in boston and i was on a tv show and had a lot of extra time so i sat down and wrote it. it's interesting of the clip you
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played, what happens in the ensuing scene is that he claims victory even though he has not one. so... did you foresee that rhetoric on this? yes i did. i also foresaw the michigan takeover, one of the plot lines is that these right wing white nationalists militia taking over the michigan state house in that broken the news the debris released the podcast. october eight. it's no secret you've been a supporter of democrats through your career but how much fun did you have making this podcast? through your career but how much fun did you have making this podcast7m was a blast. i've got to tell you it's so frustrating for it to be an actor or a director, or rather in these times because i have a theatre in los angeles in one of the things imiss in los angeles in one of the things i miss the most is the gathering. the gathering of audiences every night to experience emotion together
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whether it's sadness or to share collective anger, or to laugh together. it creates these temporary communities and the separate communities and the separate communities whether in theatres or concert halls are something that feeds our soul. and are important for the human condition. something we have been deprived of so i was trying to figure a way with this podcast to create a community of like—minded people that can get together and laugh and whether there laughing together with someone in their own lockdown or can share that humour with people in an abstract way virtually. i think it's important and! way virtually. i think it's important and i think humour is very important. a lot of people have said they have not lack for five months this podcast allowed them to laugh and work through this. we all need that right now. definitely, talking of laugh why did you called him bobbo7 of laugh why did you called him bobbo? i called him that because it's an ode to bob roberts,
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the film idid in it's an ode to bob roberts, the film i did in 1992. it was not really bob roberts, it was more the king. it's really based on this character that it played in my 20s. it's an combination. is it difficult writing in times like this because a lot of people say our politics has gone beyond satire. well that's, i believe it has gone beyond parity. but not beyond satire. i think you have to draw the distinction between the two. site there has to be rude and tough, has to be uncompromising. and these satirists should not be invited to the cocktail party. they should be that beck don't let him in the room! for telling too much truth. that's what i say about christian half the time. we are going to have a virtual cocktail party. thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule, the podcast
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is bobbo supreme. right before we go — a town in canada has voted to change its name to val—des—sources. which is rather chichy. and why has it changes its name. because it was formely called... asbestos. the town was home to one of the world's largest mines of the poisonous mineral. residents said the new name now more appropriately reflects the image of the town. course there are plenty of other towns the world over that have inappropriate names. in fact i have dug some out for our little end of show quiz. so if you ready katty7 here are three place names in the uk. i want you to tell me whether they are real or fake. happy bottom. sounds almost too good to be true. i'm going to go with real because you are not going to put a fake one first. yes it's a
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little hamlet between dorsett. farton green. there's no way that's real. i know there is a barton green, there's no way there's. .. broken wind. that can't be true! it's a little ha mlet that can't be true! it's a little hamlet in aberdeen. most of the places i have found. would it be wy nd? most of the places i found were too rude to mention. i did look at georgia — and there is a town called climax which i discounted from my list? we are just after the watershed. but i thought best to avoid getting there too early. if you go to pennsylvania you can go from intercourse to paradise, about 20 miles apart. i was going to keep climax of my list because we are just after the watershed and i
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didn't want to get there too early. hello there. we've seen some very wet weather to start this week across parts of scotland and northern ireland. england and wales have actually seen a lot of dry weather with some sunshine and some warmth, it's been very mild indeed. but quite windy as these pictures suggest in hastings and east sussex. wednesday quite a different story for much of england and wales. it can be very wet and heavy rain at times also strong winds to as we see a new area of low pressure moving up from the south. that could bring some issues that localised flooding in places atrocious road conditions for a while. in the early afternoon could see a swathe of gale force winds affect the extreme southeast of england. windy here also still quite wet across the far north and west of scotland where it's also been quite windy as well. in between a little bit
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of brightness one or two showers without another mild day to come for pretty much all areas not quite as mild as we've had through tuesday afternoon. as we move through wednesday night that area of low pressure pushes away into the norwegian sea. we continue with wet and fairly windy weather across much of scotland. just a few showers for the south. that area of low pressure starts to pull away as we move into thursday. a ridge of high pressure starts to move in. you'll notice a blue hue there that's going to be a little bit fresher with the cooler air mass moving in with the rich. it could start quite of windy and wet across northern eastern scotland. a few showers further south but gradually that ridge of high pressure moves in thursday afternoon it will settle things down. less windy and we should see increasing amounts of sunshine. it will be cooler than it's been of late. temperatures in the low teens for most of us. the ridge of high pressure is short—lived as we head on into friday another area of low pressure starts to affect northern and western areas so things go downhill pretty quickly across scotland and northern ireland, western parts of england and wales. it turns windy here,
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a band of heavy rain starts to work its way followed by sunshine and blustery showers. far southeast could stay dry until after dark. temperatures reaching around ten to 14 degrees as we start to pick up more of a south—westerly as we have run into the week temperatures will start to creep up once again. this next area of low pressure looks even deeper, more isobars on the chart to start the weekend. we'll see pretty widespread gales across north and west and will seat weather fronts moving into bring spells and pretty heavy rain and places. eventually reaching the eastern side of the country as we move through saturday night. a bit milder. temperatures 15, 16 celsius pretty widely. into sunday a band of rain starts to work its way eastward in the rain could be quite heavy. there are signals showing that some of this rain could be pretty heavy at times as it works its way eastward. continuous sunshine and showers across scotland and northern ireland and it stays pretty windy and blustery right across the board. temperatures low teens in the north
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around mid teens further south. still a little bit above the seasonal average. beyond that we have what's going on currently the mid atlantic. that's tropical storm epsilon which isn't expected to affect any landmass but what it will do is it weakens and moves towards our shores it will get caught up in the jet stream and merge with an area of low pressure as we move into the start of next week. that could enhance the low to bring some pretty wet and windy weather to our shores. the details for that are a little uncertain at the moment. but it does look like it's going to remain pretty changeable and unsettled as we move into next week. some pretty heavy rain and strong winds at times for many of us.
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tonight at 10, the prime minister imposes the toughest coronavirus restrictions on greater manchester from friday after talks with local leaders over money collapse. after ten days of bitter wrangling — there was still no agreement and boris johnson said he couldn't wait any longer. not to act would put manchester's nhs, and the lives of many of manchester's residents, at risk. hundreds of pubs and bars will have to close as well as casinos and betting shops, and people are advised not to travel in or out of the area. this is no way to run the country in a national crisis. this is not right. they should not be doing this, grinding people down, trying to accept the least that they can get away with.
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we'll have the latest as greater manchester

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