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at ten o'clock we will have a full round—up of the days news for you. festival newscast. what a way to celebrate international podcasting day, because it is. is it? you may not have known that. i didn't know until about two minutes ago. but i love the medium. every day is international podcasting day for you. you have moved. i'm in the main newscast studio, doing the podcasting equivalent on such an auspicious day of turning left, ifeel like i have done, by sitting in this big chair. laura is celebrating at home, by having some newscast branding installed in her house. i have one in every room. don't you? i actually have a 10 o'clock newsroom and a today programme room and a radio 4 room.
every where it is branding. is it a digital artefacting thing that we are seeing, or is itjust a bit of cardboard. it is a bit of cardboard! it is a riser, that is the technical term, beloved by outside broadcasting teams. our colleagues at newsnight did that at the labour party conference and politics live have them. no expense spared, but i'm not going to touch it, because i think it might fall down. it will collapse with great noise. that is how we are celebrating international podcasting day on this edition of newscast. hello, it is adam in the studio.
and chris in the studio. laura at home. we are back from the labour party conference and we will be joined by yvette cooper. how are you? very well how are you. and the other hat you wear is chair of the home affairs select committee, so you have an interest in what happened at the old bailey, where wayne couzens was sentenced to a whole life sentence for the murder of sarah everard and the troubling aspect of the case for everyone is that he was a serving police officer, with access to all the tools that that gives you and you had to see like kind of... the shock and the disappointment that was etched on the face of the met police
commissioner cressida dick. i recognise for some people a precious bond of trust has been damaged. our dedication to you, our public, remains undiminished. as commissioner, i will do everything in my power to ensure we learn any lessons. there are no words that can fully express... the fury... and overwhelming sadness that we all feel about what happened to sarah. i am so sorry. laura, i don't know i can remember a senior police officer having a reaction like that. i am not sure either, but i'm not sure if there has been a case of this kind that has
so affected people and in such a troubling, terrible way that involves notjust appalling crimes, but deception and... there is a lot to be discussed after what has emerged, beyond just the specifics of an appalling crime and yvette, i wonder... it is interesting to hear cressida dick say if there are any lessons. i wonder if you think there clearly it is quite obvious there are lessons given what we know about his history before this terrible event took place? yeah, i mean this is devastating. it isjust a particularly, obviously devastating for sarah's family, l but also for everyone seeing the real horrific _ details of this case. sarah everard was murdered by somebody she should - have been able to trust, _ someone charged with keeping her and everyone else safe.
the betrayal involved in this - horrific crime does have an impact ion people's confidence and i thinkl there are huge questions about how a man who was so dangerous could be a serving police officer— for so long. there is a series of questions - about allegations that were made about indecent exposure and questions about - vetting and screening. but the system clearlyl failed to stop someone who was so dangerous being able to use and abuse his power- as a police officer to murder— someone, to kidnap someone and then to murder someone. so i think personally there has to be a full review, _ notjust of this case, - but more widely of the way the police respond and police forces respond to cases, - or allegations of violencel against women happening within the police force. that has to happen.
i haven't seen any sign of that yet and i think that has to change. . we have seen harriet harmon your colleague call for cressida dick to resign. do you have sympathy with that view? i'm not commenting i on the commissioner, the select committee has not discussed it, so i don't think it would be appropriate. there are issues that harriet has raised that are the same ones i that we are all raising. if a police officer for example - is being investigated for domestic abuse, i have dealt with cases where the police officer- has not been suspended. i think that means the policel are not taking seriously about issues of violence against women. we need other cases investigated, much more widely and that is - what i think the home office needs
to make sure happens. _ we can't just have warm words - when it has an impact on confidence for women especially, l but also when it comes against a backdrop of the failure i of the criminaljustice system more widely to deal with violence against women and girls. . with your experience of studying the work of the justice system, do you fear that even inside the organisations like the police there is a kind of baked in lack of care, lack of respect towards women? i don't know if you heard our colleagues at radio 4 heard disturbing testimony from a former female police officer who said they can't even trust their male colleagues and not sure if they hit the emergency button if their colleagues would come to their aid. that was very serious. i did hear some of that interview.
that is why i think this has to be properly investigated. _ we have some misconduct - investigations into some officers around the allegations that were not previously pmperly— investigated in this case. but we need something that is much broader to address this, _ because otherwise confidence will be undermined. - we have to turn this around. what the home office should do - is make violence against women part of strategic policing requirement for police forces. _ that means saying it is a top i priority and must be dealt with, alongside terrorism . and the top priorities. send a signal from the top that this matters and set up a review to getl to the heart of what the issues are within police forces. - so they can be properly dealtl with and the majority of police officers who want to be able to deal
with the problems can get - on with theirjob with more confidence behind them. . lots of women will be asking if they're on a not well lit road and a car pulls up and a police officer gets out and they're not in uniform and they say, you've got to come with me, what should they do? what are their rights. are there rules about that sort of thing? i heard officers and former officers giving what sounded like sensible i advice about how you can ask for the police to ask - for back up and make sure that it is a marked car. - that you're getting into. you can raise it and if necessary. if there is some unusual situation, you could directly call 999. it is clear there are a lot of threads to this that will be investigated by various different people over the next few months the
next few years. as billed, let's talk about what we were all doing in brighton this week. that was watching kids damaging his first in conference in person conference speech. shouting. so, you see... shouting is slogans or changing lives, conference? cheering and applause what did you make of the speech and what keir starmer had to deal with, was it useful that he was heckled in terms of defining himself? he certainly gave a strong response to the hecklers.| so good he did it twice! he took no nonsense from them. they shouldn't have been doing that. it was disrespectful.
maybe it is useful politically? it showed he was not going to be deterred by a bunch of people i heckling and he was clear about needing to make i sure the labour party is fit for government, needing to make sure _ that the labour party is focussing on getting a labour government, because that is how you change i lives as he put it. i think it was a very confident performance from someone i i who is setting out a pitch to be i a labour prime minister and to be a proper, serious person who could do the job, i who would be standing up for people, for working people, for care, - he talked about a caring society. and about his family and i think it would be so much better- for the country than the chaotic conservative prime minister we have. it was a bumpy week. it wasn't just a few hecklers
in the hall, a lot of unions, big powerful voices unhappy about how he handled the rule changes and they had the resignation of one of his shadow team in the middle of the conference and there was people who were cross that he wouldn't back a £15 minimum wage. can you dismiss this as a few hecklers? well, some of what i think- was happening was the labour party turning a corner, or keir turning a corner to lead us far closer. to getting back to a labour government is opposed - to the difficulties that we had - in the run—up to the 2019 election, the difficulties we've had - in the past at our past defeats. so some of that inevitably is going to be bumpy, - but it is part of actually changing the party to get more of a focusl on the country rather than looking inward ourselves and on the things
that we need to do to earn back support, because we lost a lot. of votes in the last general election, and that has - got to be turned round. one of the rule changes that went through at the weekend was changing the threshold above which local party activists could deselect you or your colleagues as the labour candidate in the next election, and we were told that is because you guys were having to look behind your shoulders at the hard left, was the phrase were given from keir starmer�*s team. is that something that was happening to you, where you having to look behind your shoulder the whole time because some momentum people were watching you? people like diana johnson who had i huge strong support for her locall party before the last general - election, however because of a small number of members in a couple . of branches, ended up having to go through a long, fulli
reselection process, which she won comprehensively but it meant that the party— in her constituency in hull wasjust talking to themselves rather- than out campaigning talking - to people in hull about the upcoming election and about the issues that needed to be dealt with about - the things that labour. should be championing. so that i think is the kind of thing that those changes are based on. but in the end, the big thing we have got to do as a party| is actually get back to talking about the tories' cost - of living crisis. that is what is dominating peoples lives. _ most people have noticed . whether they were tackling, stuff about rule changes, i in terms of the labour party conference, because what most people are thinking about is, _ can i get petrol? am i going to hit by— universal credit, a massive cut which is going to hit half of all families with kids. in my constituency and there will be a lot of other areas like that, - whether they will be able to afford
rising gas and electricity bills. - so i think we have a huge cost of living crisis over— the next six months. that i think is what the labour party now needs to be talking| about all around the country. about how we challenge that, how we do something to get support to working families and put - the pressure on the government to u—turn on things _ like the universal credit cut. i'm sure we will talk about that a lot at the conference next week, butjust before we go, i can say this about myself without sounding rude, as a veteran of many of these events, as i am, how many labour conferences have you actually been to? gosh, that is a good question. nearly 30. when was your first one? the first one i went i to would have been...
it would have been 1991 or 1992. and i thought i was doing badly with about 17. i think the food is all still- the same, and you still get lost in the same windowless rooms looking for the fringe meeting _ that you can't find. we will let you out of the windowless room we have had you locked into night. lovely to see you. you cannot have missed the fact that the james bond film is finally out having been delayed for months. maybe even years? may be not years. it even managed to puncture through the conference bubble, and when you are in that bubble, the outside world seems to be quite distant, but those pictures of daniel craig, they hit even our radar. and we are going tojump on the bandwagon with our own james bond style title sequence.
and we are joined now by a real—life former head of m16, sir alex younger. hello. hello, and thank you for that suitably cheesy introduction. | we specialise in such things. you haven't heard the half of it. i'm not going to ask you the obvious question, which is is james bond an authentic portrayal of your former life, because we all know it is as accurate as a documentary! but do you think the bond phenomenon has been a net positive or negative for your world? we have got an ambivalent relationship i think- with the franchise. on the one hand, it would be . churlish not to admit that it has made us more famous than pepsi, and we are a secret organisation, i that makes you feel uneasy. but in practice it significantlyl magnifies our fighting power,
and you would imagine that people i in the middle east would think there is an mi6 officer behind most rocks. so the fact that there is this incredible franchise of dozens of british films actually means that the british secret service is seen as being more powerful around the world? yes, and life follows art, | so that is the good news. if i may, there is a drawback, - which is of course that our business is about emotional intelligence, j teamwork, willingness to learn, i and we are very keen that people | understand that so that they come itojoin us, we get the full range l of talent available in this country. and of course it is a stereotype that does slightly work - against that, if i'm to be honest. is it true you went to go and visit them on the set to give them tips when they were filming it? that is true, yes. and what was that like? it was a bit spooky. as i spoke to ralph fiennes, he became more like me, i it was unsettling. i'm intrigued by the conversations
that must have gone on. were there things that you said, you can't do that, that is ridiculous? what advice where you are able to offer? i wasn't in professional- analysis mode, i would have been quite irritating. but it was fascinating meeting them, and i was amazed, - the complexity of making a film | like that is completely stunning. there is so much we want to talk about on the international arena, the more serious stuff, but one more bond question if i may. are you would your former colleagues able to watch bond films as a form of escapism, or is it, even though it is fiction and it's not remotely like what you are doing day to day or were doing day to day, it is just a bit too close? you can separate it, _ although it was borderline cathartic to see my headquarters being blown up in one of them, i can't— remember which one it was.
let's dive into the real world rather than the movie world. i just wonder, are at their new emerging kind of threats in the world that people in the diplomatic world are aware of but we in the general public don't have an inkling of yet and we are totally in the dark about? not really. by and large, things hit us first if you like, - but it isn't rocket science. the obvious categoriesl of threat are those that you would be able to list. talk to us about china, the threat of china and the whole business of gathering intelligence on how china works. i think there is a realisation taking place on china - that history didn't end. it didn't end and liberal democratic capitalism hasn't reigned supreme
for ever, and indeed in china - we have got a successful country that has made it quite clear that it has no intention- of copying our ideology, . and yet the whole thought i in the last 20 or 30 years was that| as china got richer it would become more like us, and that is wrong. xi jinping is very - specific about the fact that the communist party- will control all aspects of chinese life, he is going to double down - on that and use that to re—engineer china, what he called common. prosperity, and he will engineer china's rise, the chinese dream. and these are all essentially. domestic focus issues for him, but it is quite obvious _ you have a separate value system, one planet, two systems, - which must generate some form of contest, so there is an issue there. i do you think as the latest bond film does, it has russia as the bad guy. should we still look at russia as the bad guy? china is a concern, but what is the sense of how
things are shifting? i think it is the acute versus the chronic. i russia remains the millwall of international relations i and is to some extent invested. in having a fractious and difficult relationship with the west . because that in turn justifies the measures that the russian| government take to keep itself in power as a sort of self—serving oligarchy, so it needs— to keep the pot boiling. but it is going to continue to do |that, but it is dangerous and it| could get out of control. do you think some of the new ways of building alliances that we are seeing at the right approach chris mccann thinking specifically of the deal that the uk and the us and australia did, aukus, to help australia build nuclear submarines, and for a lot of people that is seen as quite a departure in the way things have been done, whether it is the west focusing on energy through nato or the intelligence sharing deal.
what you make of the aukus deal? i am a fan and i think— it is a strategically canny move, and an important piece of long—term thinking. | and the reason i think— that is i suppose a lesson i do have from life that i have learned - in my career is you should worry about the things you can change, not the things you can't. - china may rise, it may falter, it may not rise smoothly. - who knows? but that is out with our control. what we control is us and our value system and the things that make a strong. do you miss it? i do, it is a very... it is an extraordinary thing to have happened. when i was recruited, . we didn't exist formally, so i was tapped on the shoulder and it wasn't something - i would have thought of. that does actually happen? that actually happens. i thought i was going to be . criticised in some other way, but that was what it was about.
anyway, the point is, - it is an enormous privilege because when you look - at all the stuff we're talking about, in however small a way, i if you are in a position to actually make a difference to those things, it is incredibly validating. - it has its pressure points, - but that and the immense level of curiosity that you feel. about the world and people and all those around you, i it is an incredibly stimulating way of life. so of course i miss those aspects, but i did it for 30 years. _ i i did much of the stuff that i setl out to do in terms of transforming us for the data age. i have been succeeded i by an excellent success, by an excellent successor and there is other stuff you can do, and not being in government - and constrained like that is also quite liberating. - i'm going to ask you a ludicrous question, if i may, but i can't help it. how do you spot a spy? that is the point, isn't it! sir alex, thank you very much.
thank you. so cool. you can always spot a spy, they are eitherjumping out of a plane in a unionjack parachute, coming out of the sea in very tight trunks or smashing up a restaurant or standing in leicester square in a red suit! that he is super cool as a cucumber. he did sound incredibly cool, but i only have headphones, i couldn't see him. can i check whether or not he did have the pink velvet? there was no pink velvet, but you're right to say he was cool. you think of the flap that goes on in the great prospect of prospect of one of us not making it our tv slot. what are you talking about? i have no idea of the kind of drama, there is nothing ever but peace and harmony, calm and collected sense of purpose. and reading all those intelligence reports. i have managed to get through another day having not seen
james bond and not having the plot ruined. thank you very much, everyone. we will be back again very soon. goodbye. more heavy weather on the way, autumn is well and truly closing in at a rate of knots and tomorrow it's going to be wet and windy across many parts of the uk and for some of us it might end up being a bit of a write—off. as you guessed, it is a low pressure bringing the bad weather and it is arriving over the weekend. we have already had heavy rain in the last couple of days and that will continue. in the short—term, not too bad, some heavy showers around but not widespread rain and plenty of clear weather through the night as well, particularly in some central and eastern areas of the uk.
quite a chilly night and then here comes the rain out of the south—west, a developing area of low pressure which will spread into many western areas in the morning and then further east through the day. look at the lime green colours, that is particularly heavy rain in the south and on top of that we have some very strong winds as well.
tonight at ten... borisjohnson admits there are problems with british policing after the murder of sarah everard by a serving officer, but he says the public should still trust the police. he said her death was sickening, and described the justice system as a nightmare for women. there is one area where the issue of trust needs to be addressed square on, and it's the way we handle crimes against women and girls. the prime minister also says he is absolutely standing by the head of the met police, despite calls for her to resign. also tonight... millions of households face higher energy bills is the price cap on gas and electricity charges is raised. the growing numbers of girls forced