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bringing rain through the course of the night tonight. most fizzling away to drizzle the time we get to tuesday morning and the sun is up at 3:30am across shetland and we have the longest day ahead this tuesday and 19 hours of daylight possible for some parts of northern scotland. not 19 hours of sunshine. more cloud through the day, brighter as the day goes on for scotland and northern ireland and a few showers in the east but cooler because of the cloud and the weather front, may be 17 or 18 in aberdeen but possibly 25 across central england and wales, even through tuesday afternoon. wednesday, more sunshine for england and wales and warmer here and brighter skies for northern ireland and much of scotland, away from the north rain stays breezy and cool. we push into the 20s for aberdeen and belfast wednesday, may be up to 28 somewhere in england and wales through the middle of the week. thursday looks very similar as well. the end of the way, if the heat is
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not for you, it is off again. showers and rain were widespread and a cooler story to end the week and take us into the weekend. the heat is not for me, susan! you can keep that 28! thanks, susan. and that's bbc news at ten on monday the 20th ofjune. there's more analysis of the day's main stories on newsnight with kirsty wark, which isjust getting underway on bbc two. the news continues here on bbc one as now its time to join our colleagues across the nations and regions for the news where you are. but from the ten team — it's goodnight. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are ros altmann, former pensions minister, and natalie faye, senior editor
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at the nottingham post, the derby telegraph and the lincolnshire echo. good evening to you both. we'll chat in a second. business fears rail strikes' cost as prospect grows of more walk—outs — that's on the front of the financial times. other industries could ballot for similar action. the telegraph repeats the prime ministers claim. "unions harming those they are meant to help," reads their headline. planes, trains, automobiles all come to a halt, and the mirror says on the front page, the transport secretary still refuses to act. on the front of the i tomorrow, the government plans to tear up the limits on city bosses' pay. pm inflames rail dispute with strike—breaker threat, reports the guardian. it's all going a bit loco — the metro comments on tomorrow's strike, with this striking front page. don't panic, but they've just put
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a man with no brain in charge of the country. that's from daily star, commenting on the interim role of dominic raab while borisjohnson recovers from a nose surgery. so, let us begin. let's beat to ros and natalie. good evening to you both. —— let's speak to. it seems the rail strikes will dominate most papers. the concern isn't necessarilyjust dominate most papers. the concern isn't necessarily just this dominate most papers. the concern isn't necessarilyjust this week's strikes, which of course will cause chaos, is about whether this is the start of what will be a very long, may be rather painful summer of disruption. may be rather painful summer of disru tion. , may be rather painful summer of disruption-_
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may be rather painful summer of disrution. , . , , . disruption. yes, and the signs are reall not disruption. yes, and the signs are really not terribly _ disruption. yes, and the signs are really not terribly hopeful - disruption. yes, and the signs are really not terribly hopeful at - disruption. yes, and the signs are really not terribly hopeful at the l really not terribly hopeful at the moment. there does seem to be an enormous... but i truly believe that this action is premature and is callous. when you think about, for example, people who will miss hospital appointments, students who have had so much disruption, who will miss their gcses and a—levels. these... this is a terrible time. these... this is a terrible time. the unions have been warned about the timing. there are lots of things going on at the moment. in the summer, it will be much less disruptive for the general public. but isn't disruption the point? the unit is saying this is how they'll get there message across. disruption is the only way to make the government act.— is the only way to make the government act. is the only way to make the covernment act. ~ �* ., , government act. well, i'm not sure that that is — government act. well, i'm not sure that that is the — government act. well, i'm not sure that that is the right _ government act. well, i'm not sure that that is the right way _ government act. well, i'm not sure that that is the right way to - that that is the right way to approach or the responsible way to
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approach or the responsible way to approach rail passengers. if they're providing a vital service and there are issues happening at the moment that won't be happening in a couple of weeks, for example, punishing schoolchildren, as punishing students who can't get to exams. these are life—changing, potentially damaging events. how will the young students feel when their futures have been blighted by this? ifeel that the public, of course, understand that you've got to have good pay and good conditions for workers in this country, but this action seems to me to be punitive and perimeter when there hasn't been proper negotiation yet —— and premature. we'rejust
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proper negotiation yet —— and premature. we're just coming proper negotiation yet —— and premature. we'rejust coming out proper negotiation yet —— and premature. we're just coming out of a pandemic. premature. we're 'ust coming out of a pandemic— a pandemic. yes, and that is one of the sticking — a pandemic. yes, and that is one of the sticking points. _ a pandemic. yes, and that is one of the sticking points. just _ a pandemic. yes, and that is one of the sticking points. just where - the sticking points. just where that money was spent and whether other businesses are profiting. natalie, there is a warning on the front page from the rmt�*s boss saying this action will run for it was long as it is needed. fears that this week is not the problem, but a long summer ahead. is not the problem, but a long summerahead. it’s is not the problem, but a long summer ahead.— is not the problem, but a long summer ahead. it's quite fighting talk from the _ summer ahead. it's quite fighting talk from the rmc. _ summer ahead. it's quite fighting talk from the rmc. |_ summer ahead. it's quite fighting talk from the rmc. i suppose - summer ahead. it's quite fighting talk from the rmc. i suppose you j talk from the rmc. i suppose you wouldn't expect any less, but i think— wouldn't expect any less, but i think the unions need to understand that the _ think the unions need to understand that the rail industry has fundamentally changed. they have fewer _ fundamentally changed. they have fewer passengers not just on trains, but on _ fewer passengers not just on trains, but on buses, trams as well and as a result, _ but on buses, trams as well and as a result, this new prophet is coming in. result, this new prophet is coming in they— result, this new prophet is coming in. they need to look at the model
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and they— in. they need to look at the model and they may be people who lose theiriohe — and they may be people who lose theirjobs. more people and never are working from home. —— more people _ are working from home. —— more pe0pte than— are working from home. —— more people than ever. it's a very difficult _ people than ever. it's a very difficult time, but there needs to be some — difficult time, but there needs to be some sort of compromise of the country— be some sort of compromise of the country doesn't shut down as a result — country doesn't shut down as a result. �* . , , country doesn't shut down as a result. �* ., , , ., country doesn't shut down as a result. �* ., ,, ., , ., , result. and that issue of compromise is one that is — result. and that issue of compromise is one that is on _ result. and that issue of compromise is one that is on the _ result. and that issue of compromise is one that is on the front _ result. and that issue of compromise is one that is on the front of- result. and that issue of compromise is one that is on the front of the - is one that is on the front of the ft. one of their points is whether this action could spread, whether we could see other industries balloting for similar things. could see other industries balloting forsimilarthings. before could see other industries balloting for similar things. before we get onto the idea that lots of industries will be looking very closely at what the rmt agrees, because everyone feels like they need or deserve a pay rise blue yeah, well, there's a line and many of the front yeah, well, there's a line and many of the fron— of the front pages. i don't think an one's of the front pages. i don't think anyone's going _ of the front pages. i don't think anyone's going to _ of the front pages. i don't think anyone's going to get _ of the front pages. i don't think anyone's going to get a - of the front pages. i don't think anyone's going to get a rise - of the front pages. i don't think anyone's going to get a rise ofl of the front pages. i don't think- anyone's going to get a rise of 1196, anyone's going to get a rise of 11%, but there _ anyone's going to get a rise of 11%, but there is— anyone's going to get a rise of 11%, but there is a worry that's kind of
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reflected — but there is a worry that's kind of reflected in— but there is a worry that's kind of reflected in the front page that it will he _ reflected in the front page that it will be infectious, and lots of other— will be infectious, and lots of other industries are looking at what the rmt_ other industries are looking at what the rmt is — other industries are looking at what the rmt is doing and how successful they may— the rmt is doing and how successful they may or may not be. we've already— they may or may not be. we've already seen criminal barristers today— already seen criminal barristers today say— already seen criminal barristers today say they will be striking. protests — today say they will be striking. protests in the level of... but there's— protests in the level of... but there's also rumours of teachers going _ there's also rumours of teachers going on— there's also rumours of teachers going on strike, doctors, refuse collectors — going on strike, doctors, refuse collectors and people who deliver post as _ collectors and people who deliver post as well. so this could be... if we're _ post as well. so this could be... if we're not — post as well. so this could be... if we're not careful or if the unions are not— we're not careful or if the unions are not careful, we could see this spreading — are not careful, we could see this spreading across a number of industries. teachers and doctors particular. — industries. teachers and doctors particular, that we really are going to he _ particular, that we really are going to he in_ particular, that we really are going to be in trouble. i really hope the rmt and — to be in trouble. i really hope the rmt and the employers come to a sensible compromise so that we can put sensible compromise so that we can out a _ sensible compromise so that we can out a lid _ sensible compromise so that we can out a lid on — sensible compromise so that we can put a lid on this and not shut down
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the whole — put a lid on this and not shut down the whole country.— the whole country. ros, we should robabl the whole country. ros, we should probably get _ the whole country. ros, we should probably get used _ the whole country. ros, we should probably get used to _ the whole country. ros, we should probably get used to hearing - the whole country. ros, we should probably get used to hearing the i probably get used to hearing the phrase payjustice. it seems that is summing up the idea that the cost of living squeeze continues, wages aren't keeping up, the security cuts aren't keeping up, the security cuts are real income. salaries matching the cost of living?— the cost of living? well, there is talk about _ the cost of living? well, there is talk about that, _ the cost of living? well, there is talk about that, but _ the cost of living? well, there is talk about that, but if _ the cost of living? well, there is talk about that, but if you - the cost of living? well, there is talk about that, but if you look l talk about that, but if you look at some of the issues in the rail industry, the rmt, for example, if you were to have some agreement on changing these outdated work practices, again, the companies might be able to pay more. there are practices that maintenance staff are only allowed to work in their own areas, so people at euston station,
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if there's a repair needed at kings cross, are not allowed to go there because it's not on their patch. management is not allowed beat —— to speak remotely to staff. drivers getting paid for 12 minutes walking time, from their break to their train. all these things, whether or not it takes 12 minutes, they have to be paid for that. there are ways in which, with proper negotiation and changing the way things operate to make them more efficient, that itself could help boost pay and the private sector is doing quite a bit of this. but all these public sector industries who have great benefits are trying to stay with the existing conditions rather than improving productivity which would allow for
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higher pay. productivity which would allow for hither -a . . productivity which would allow for hither -a. ., �*, productivity which would allow for hiuhaer-. ., �*, , higher pay. yeah, it's interesting where on that _ higher pay. yeah, it's interesting where on that scale _ higher pay. yeah, it's interesting where on that scale of— higher pay. yeah, it's interesting where on that scale of reform . higher pay. yeah, it's interesting - where on that scale of reform versus reality. let's move on because it's something we will talk about all week. in the i, there is a sort of real contrast here when we're talking about the cost of living and workers on the railways asking for more pay. number ten plans to tear up limits on city buses pay. —— city bosses' pay. a lot of people facing a cost of living squeeze. it’s lot of people facing a cost of living squeeze.— lot of people facing a cost of living squeeze. it's 'ust in the wind, really. _ living squeeze. it's 'ust in the wind, really. i— living squeeze. it'sjust in the wind, really. i know- living squeeze. it'sjust in the wind, really. i know a - living squeeze. it'sjust in the wind, really. i know a lot - living squeeze. it'sjust in the wind, really. i know a lot of. living squeeze. it'sjust in the i wind, really. i know a lot of my readers — wind, really. i know a lot of my readers across the east midlands havent— readers across the east midlands haven't got these kinds of industries in cities that i look after— industries in cities that i look after with— industries in cities that i look after with my newspapers. they were looking _ after with my newspapers. they were looking at _ after with my newspapers. they were looking at that and going, this is
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unbelievable. i've seen the queues outside _ unbelievable. i've seen the queues outside the food banks in nottingham, and to have something like this, _ nottingham, and to have something like this, when we know salaries are very generous, is really quite unbelievable. the i hit the nail on the head — unbelievable. the i hit the nail on the head there. exactly. ros, unbelievable. the i hit the nail on the head there. exactly.— the head there. exactly. ros, the limits are there _ the head there. exactly. ros, the limits are there for— the head there. exactly. ros, the limits are there for a _ the head there. exactly. ros, the limits are there for a reason, - the head there. exactly. ros, the limits are there for a reason, are | limits are there for a reason, are they not? limits are there for a reason, are the not? , ., ., limits are there for a reason, are they not?— limits are there for a reason, are the not? , ., ., ~ , they not? they are, and i think this announcement is _ they not? they are, and i think this announcement is extraordinarily . announcement is extraordinarily unhelpful, unwise and misguided. the idea that need to increase bosses' pay when you have the most enormous rises in pay at the top and an increase in inequality at the same time as you are telling ordinary workers that they won't be able to get a good pay rise to match
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inflation, those messages do not stack up. i think we should all be in it together and there shouldn't be one rule for the very wealthy and another rule for everybody else. so, although i do hope that the strikes will not end in deadlock and we will come to a negotiation, i also feel that it's wrong to suddenly say, well, it's a free—for—all for the wealthy and the very rich and those who want to earn a fortune in this country. ijust feel that many of the financial companies are based offshore, some of them don't pay taxes in the uk. so, i do think that there is this mixed message which is extremely unhelpful.—
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extremely unhelpful. natalie, help us ex - lain extremely unhelpful. natalie, help us explain this. — extremely unhelpful. natalie, help us explain this, because _ extremely unhelpful. natalie, help us explain this, because the - extremely unhelpful. natalie, help us explain this, because the i - extremely unhelpful. natalie, help us explain this, because the i is i us explain this, because the i is saying this letter is a government attempts to attract more foreign firms to britain. how does lifting the cap more forms to uk? i’m firms to britain. how does lifting the cap more forms to uk? i'm not an exert on the cap more forms to uk? i'm not an exoert on how — the cap more forms to uk? i'm not an exoert on how the _ the cap more forms to uk? i'm not an expert on how the city _ the cap more forms to uk? i'm not an expert on how the city works, - the cap more forms to uk? i'm not an expert on how the city works, but - expert on how the city works, but i can only imagine its people think there's— can only imagine its people think there's salaries. so they can reward their top— there's salaries. so they can reward their top staff more, and the government is desperate to prove that brexit has been a success. this looks— that brexit has been a success. this looks to _ that brexit has been a success. this looks to me — that brexit has been a success. this looks to me like this is one way they're — looks to me like this is one way they're trying to do that. so, the timing _ they're trying to do that. so, the timing is — they're trying to do that. so, the timing is incredibly bad and the government should probably think about— government should probably think about all— government should probably think about all the normal people around the country that might vote for them or might _ the country that might vote for them or might not next time around. this only affects — or might not next time around. this only affects a very small portion of people. _ only affects a very small portion of people. so— only affects a very small portion of people, so is it really the right thing? — people, so is it really the right thing? probably not. also
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potentially _ thing? probably not. also potentially about - thing? probably not. also l potentially about attracting thing? probably not. i"r potentially about attracting new talent as well. let's turn our attention to the daily telegraph. we're told that seeing a gp remotely is greener, according to the nhs. well, certainly, those who are worried about the net zero pledge by the nhs by 2040 and cutting the carbon footprint, might believe that the remote gp appointment would be very helpful, and that's of course true. but i think it is absolutely essential that those people who need face—to—face appointments or want fa ce—to —fa ce face—to—face appointments or want face—to—face appointments or want face—to—face appointments are still going to be able to get them because so many cancers were missed, so many serious illnesses and things like dementia are missed if the doctor doesn't see someone in person and can't examine them or interact with
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them face—to—face. but of course there are many

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