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all right. everyone, john berman here. i want you to listen to these words this morning. i wanted it over with. i wanted out. please just get this over with. whatever this is, just get it over. that is from leigh corfman who said she was sexually molested by candidate roy moore and guided her hand to his underpants. saying these words out loud is so important because she is saying them out loud on the record. three other women telling
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stories about moore from when they were teenagers. roy moore denies this. some republican lawmakers are saying that moore should drop out of the alabama senate race, others are using conditions in their language. this was white house press secretary sarah sanders overnight. >> the president believes that we cannot allow a mere allegation in this case one from many years ago, to destroy a person's life. however, the president also believes that if these allegations are true, judge moore will do the right thing and step aside. >> all right. cnn's martin savidge in moore's hometown. martin, breaking news here. you talked to roy moore's brother. >> right. his younger brother jerry moore. spoke to him on the telephone. and he is quite defiant. he is, obviously, in defense of his brother here. and there are a number of things. let me go through the notes because i literally got off the phone with him. he says he knows, the brother knows, that the allegations against roy moore are not true, not true at all. he knows that deeply in his
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heart. he knows that deepry in his faith. he's very concerned about what the impact is going to be on their 91-year-old mother hearing all of this, they worry about her and her age and health. when i asked what does he believe the motivation is with these women coming forward making the accusations they have, again, jerry moore says it's money and the democratic party implying that they are doing this because they're being paid in some way and it is for the purpose of derailing or interrupting this campaign. he says it's because his brother has been leading so far in double digits, and he also says he knows that they are not telling the truth and these women are going to as he put it have to answer to god for these false allegations. and hes also portrays that his brother is being persecuted in his own words like jesus christ was. he expects that the voters here and those that know roy moore are going to be outraged,
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outraged by the allegations, he said, no, outraged anyone would even think that roy moore would be capable of doing what he's been accused of by these women. very defiant and very outspoken relying on his faith and defending his brother to the hit, john. >> the brother of roy moore, the defense there, claiming they are not true, saying that his brother is the victim, which is interesting because you have four women on the record including leigh corfman who says when she was 14 years old she was sexually molested by roy moore. lay out the charges in the stunning "washington post" story, martin. >> well, the allegations, of course, are that there are a number of teenage girls back when roy moore was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney here who say that he was trying to initiate relationships with them and in some cases did. but the most crucial one is leigh corfman who says at the age of 14, that roy moore not
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only started a relationship with her, but at least on one evening, undressed her and fondled her and she is under age, of course. so that would be a crime if that were true. the statute of limitations would have passed, but none the less when you are talking about a candidate for the u.s. senate, you talk about any official or any person that is deeply, deeply distressing. on top of it because of the fact you have had a number of women that now say he seemed to have a habit of dating women who were extremely young, high school girls. and he was doing it from a position of authority in the neighborhood. he's the assistant d.a. he's dressed up in a suit. he looks good. he's coming on to young girls. all of this does not sound very good when you're a candidate currently and many people are struggling to either understand if it's true, or understand what comes next. >> yeah. sexual molestation doesn't sound good for any human being, let
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alone a candidate. martin savidge, thank you for being with us. just getting off the phone with the brother of roy moore. back in washington, this is a serious issue for republicans in the senate. they are all being asked about it. sunlen serfaty on capitol hill with the very latest from there. sunlen? >> john, they certainly are all being asked about it and senators up here on capitol hill calling it deeply disturbing and horrifying and nearly every republican senator that we spoke to yesterday including from a statement from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell they say that roy moore should drop out of the race if the allegations hold up. but, of course, that is the caveat that is what we're hearing from many republican senators, that if these allegations are true, he should drop out. here's more of that message coming from senate republicans yesterday. >> it's a devastating, nasty story. if the revelations, if that's true, i don't believe there would be any place for him in
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the u.s. senate. >> allegations, if true, to me, means he needs to step aside. >> if they're true he should step aside. >> and senator ted cruz, who is one of the very few senators who actually endorsed judge moore in his race, he came out with a statement late last fight saying, quote, these are serious and troubling allegations, if they are true judge moore should immediately withdraw. however we these to know the truth and judge moore has the right to respond to these accusations. but some stronger words from senator john mccain, one of the very few republicans up here who said i don't need any more proof from these allegations and "the washington post" story, he says that these allegations are disqualifying to judge moore and that he should immediately step aside. and certainly john, as this story continues on, that's going to be the questions for a lot of republicans up here who weren't necessarily completely embracing roy moore even before these allegations, the question is, what more proof do you need for
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these sorts of allegations? what more proof do you need? >> four women speaking on the record, using their names, sunlen serfaty on capitol hill, stay on this for us. joining me now, cnn senior politicals analyst, editor for the atlantic ron brownstein, washington examiner political analyst david trucker and amber phillips of "the washington post" blog. amber we kept hearing and played the sound montage, if true, if true, if true. just now we heard from former republican nominee mitt romney who may run for senate in utah, a totally different story, but mitt romney uses different language here. he says innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions not elections. i believe leigh corfman, her account too serious to ignore. moore is unfit for office and should step aside. again, that is from a former republican nominee for president who says he's seen enough, four women on the record in your newspaper this morning, enough for him to say roy moore should not be a good candidate.
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the implications of that statement? >> i think the implications are that republican party is clearly very split right now about what to do about this massive story as you point out with serious allegations, four women on the record, decades later, giving names, dates, consistent stories all consistent with each other. sunlen said what more proof do you need. on the other hand, republicans who are in the senate right now recognize that balance of power of the senate could be at stake in this election if democrats are able to tilt this election and a couple other in nevada and arizona next year and hold on to some other raise. certainly the balance of tax reform which they want to vote on in a couple months could be hanging in the balance with all this. so i think republicans are split about whether they decide morally that this is not okay and fine, we're just going to let a democrat have the seat or try to get someone else in, or they say you know what, we
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really need republicans right now. we're struggling to get a legislative win, bring roy moore in. >> it will be interesting if the answer to questions or charges of sexually molesting a 14-year-old, interesting if he answers that question is tax cuts. ron brownstein i want to bring you in, there is an interesting dilemma, you have the. the, the vice president, all those republican senators, saying if true, roy moore should drop out. roy moore saying it's not true. you have these on the roar allegations. i don't know that we will get past the on the record allegations or accusations and there may be more but roy moore will continue to say they're not true. so how does this position change between now and the december election day? >> right. i mean i think the real question for all of these republicans saying if true, is really twofold. we've been talking about, what is the standard of proof beyond four on the record accusations? certainly there was less specific detailed on the record accusations before harvey
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weinstein was pushed out of the academy, pushed out of his company, at a time when republicans certainly like to portray hollywood as, you know, essentially kind of undermining the morals of america, they acted on less specific information than was given here. i think the other question for -- that really has to be asked today to mitch mcconnell and all of the other republican senators is okay, if you do believe -- and look ted cruz is right, everybody should get a chance to respond to allegations against him, but what is the process by which you intend to determine whether this is true? and if you are essentially saying that, you know, nothing, than in effect, if true, becomes okay, fine, let's go ahead with it. so i think there is an obligation i think on those who are saying we should wait to say what exactly are they waiting for and how will they clear up any doubts they have in their own minds. >> david, i want to read you the response from one republican in alabama. i don't want to suggest this is the response from all republican offices holders down there or
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all republican leaders but it is not a unique occurrence either. this is from john, the state auditor who said there is nothing to see here. the allegations a man in his early 30s dated teenage girls. "the washington post" report said he never had sexual intercourse with any of the girls and never attempted sexual intercourse. so he's saying you know what, i read "the washington post" story and i don't care. you know, how will that play in alabama? >> well, look, i think the -- one of the things we have to understand is that roy moore has a very loyal and committed base down in alabama. and i think one of the reasons republicans on the hill are in a quandary is number one, there's nothing they can really do to impact what happened in alabama with the party and part of the reason is that the influence of the establishment of the party doesn't carry weight like it might have 10 or 20 or 30 years ago when a top party official in washington could have made a call to the state party and said, this guy's got to go and
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it also would have impacted voters' opinions. they would have seen leaders coming out against the candidate and said to themselves something is wrong here. that in a sense almost works against republicans in washington who were concerned about roy moore for all of the controversial and incendiary things he said before the revelations. i was on the phone with a voter, john, before we went on the air, somebody i spoke to in september when i was down there covering the senate race, he voted for roy moore over luther strange and i said, does this story impact your vote coming up december 12th? he said first of all, i don't believe the story. i don't think it's true. i know the judge. they've been attacking him for years. and this is more of the same. he said, sure, if i actually believed it, it would impact my decision, but i don't. i'm going to one of his campaign rallies on saturday and i'm going to donate $1,000. and so i think this is what republicans are trying to deal with in a state that is conservative, but not just conservative, particularly anti-establishment. >> and then there's this
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separate argument, amber, we're hearing from the likes of steve bannon, i will not play it right now, because it takes too much time, bannon doesn't weigh into whether it's true or not but because it comes from your paper "the washington post" it should be completely disregarded as liberal propaganda and notes the "access hollywood" tapes were first published by the "post" as well. nothing true or not true about the tapes. donald trump said that stuff right there. he's saying because it comes from the "washington post" you shouldn't consider it as an alabama voter. >> i think that almost bolsters and proves the opposite point that steve bannon was saying and bolsters the accusations the brave women made because listen, "the washington post," my colleague david, published the "access hollywood" tape a month before the election. no one else was able to get ahold of it. we have publishing accurately the president never denied what was said on that tape, extraordinary proof of what he said, and now here we are again, having a story that is, when it
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comes to litigating sexual allegations in the press, is as close to proof as you can get. so i think listen, steve bannon has had a really bad week when you look at it, he supported roy moore, he's now having to defend him with weak arguments from allegations he molested a 14-year-old, couple days earlier he predicted democrats would be -- i'm sorry democrats would be very worried and republicans would be celebrating in tuesday's elections. pretty much the exact opposite happened. steve bannon's credibility has been struggling this week. >> it doesn't have to be a republican or democratic thing. and ron brownstein, i don't think anyone wants tax cuts more than mitt romney. i think he would do pretty well if there were tax cuts and he says he doesn't care, he wants roy moore to drop out. >> look, this is a test of how tribal our politics has become both from the leadership level and from the voters whether the idea of advancing things that you care about that roy moore will be a warrior in the cultural wars is sufficient to
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look past what, as amber said, as detailed and specific an allegation as you can get. look, i think from the point of view of the senate republicans there is a self-interest question here beyond the moral question, which is if he wins in december, which i don't think is guaranteed after this, i think that, you know, it's not as though he is 20 points ahead, it's not inconceivable he could lose, if he wins they will have to deal with the question of how do they deal with him as a sitting senator and how -- do they simply try to walk past these allegations, have no ethics process, no investigation. are they seen as, in effect, coddling someone whose behavior went beyond the unpleasant to the criminal in one -- in the main case here. so there's a lot of self-interest i think on the line for republicans as well as the moral standard. >> and john if you look at what happened on tuesday and talk to republican strategists about what they're worried about in 2018 it is suburban women and roy moore could be something democrats could use against them
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next year and they are concerned. >> todd akin plus. >> thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. a new controversy involving general michael flynn the former national security adviser to the president and special counsel reportedly looking into flynn's role in a meeting about forcibly removing a muslim cleric from the united states. getting him out of the united states. and at the center of this meeting apparently a $15 million offer. president trump, vladimir putin, the russian leader, they shook hands right there, but will it be more at this asian summit? will there be a private meeting? if not, why not? we're live in vietnam. new infallible total cover from l'oreal. full coverage foundation. super-lightweight. pro formula. really lasts. but if forever doesn't last forever, just cover and conceal. new infallible total cover from l'oreal paris
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adviser michael flynn and his son that involve the possible forcible removal of a muslim cleric from the united states and a possible $15 million payday. jessica schneider has the details on this. jessica, what are you learning? >> john, a lot of questions about this, about the plot and the fact that it was allegedly proposed at a meeting in new york city last december at the height of the transition after michael flynn accepted the offer to become national security adviser. t"the wall street journal" reporting michael flynn and his son offered up to $15 million to forcibly take the muslim cleric fethullah gullen from his home in pennsylvania and deliver him to the turk i government. president erdogan has accused gulen of masterminding a failed coup against his government in the summer of 2016. "the wall street journal" reporting the fbi is investigating, interviewed four people about the meeting and this does appear to be the second such meeting that flynn had with turkish officials. in fact, we at cnn reported a
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september 2016 meeting where muslim cleric gulen was discussed and at the time back in march, we talked to former cia director james woolsey, he attended part of the meeting as a trump campaign adviser and said finding ways to send gulen back to turkey to face charges was one of the topics. take a listen. >> it looks as if there was at least some strong suggestion by the -- one or more of the americans present at the meeting to the turks that we would be able, the united states, would be able through them, to get hold of gulen, the rival for turkey's political situation. it was suspicious, it was concerning and i felt i needed to say something about it to someone, but was it a clear plot that they were going to seize
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him? no. >> reporter: so it's interesting to note woolsey there referring to the september 2016 meeting and now, of course, "the wall street journal" reporting on a followup meeting to that in december where flynn was reportedly offered $15 million. now flynn's attorneys have previously denied that he had discussions about the muslim cleric but the "journal" is reporting the fbi now investigating and, of course, we've reported that michael flynn and his son are under scrutiny from special counsel mueller's team for these meetings and also, john, concealing any of those ties to turkey and russia he may have had during the campaign and previous to that as well. john? >> all right. jessica schneider for us in washington, thanks so much. there is more to tell you about this morning concerning the special counsel's investigation and also the entire russian matter. it has to do with the president's former bodyguard who also worked for him in the white house, keith schiller. he testified to a congressional committee about apparently an offer in some russians to send women to the room of then citizen donald trump back in 2013.
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cnn's manu raju on capitol hill with this reporting. what have you learned? >> that's right. this had to do with 2013 trip schiller took with trump to moscow part of trump's effort to bring the miss universe pageant to moscow. there had been a lot of questions about trump's activities at the time because of salacious allegations that were concluded in that dossier compiled by the former british agent christopher steele. the salacious activities have not been verified by the intelligence committee even though other allegations within that dossier about trump campaign/russia connections have been verified. now, there were questions that were posed to him by the house intelligence committee according to several sources in the room, a question about what happened there and what schiller confirmed there was a russian individual he cannot remember the identity of who actually proposed sending five women to trump's hotel room on that 2013 night. schiller testified that he took it as a joke. he said they walked up to the hotel room and he told trump on
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the way to the hotel room and trump laughed it off. it went into the room. let trump into his room. schiller, trump's former bodyguard, was waiting outside the hotel room, waited for several minutes and left. he told the committee he could not account for what happened afterwards. now the reason why this is significant is investigators are trying to figure out with whether or not russians had any compromising material on trump, particularly the time that russia was trying to meddle in the elections and schiller provided one witness who could provide some information about what happened in russia and, john, as you know, schiller had been by trump's side for years. he was -- delivered that letter to the fbi with the news of james comey's firing, and he was asked, i'm told, about james comey's firing, whether he knew about any deliberation, he denied knowing anything, said he was merely delivering a letter and denied knowing a lot about any connections between trump and russia. left some lawmakers frustrated as they left the room there,
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john. >> cnn's manu raju own capitol hill, manu, thank you very much. want to discuss all of these developments with cnn national security and legal analyst susan hennessey. thank you for being with us. help me understand the myriad legal issues that could be at stake from this reported meeting or meetings that michael flynn had with people of turkish interests of somehow removing this turkish cleric from u.s. soil possibly in return for money? >> yeah. there are -- there's a lot of concerning developments here. jessica previously referred to the september meeting that was sort of had been reported by cnn "the wall street journal" and others, that meeting was disturbing enough to former cia director james woolsy but he reportedly tried to contact joe biden through an intermediary. we're talking -- using careful language here about removing him from the country and we're turning him over to turkish officials. what is a private citizen discussing doing that, the legal term we use is ordinarily
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kidnapping. this is a serious sort of potential plot or alleged plot. what this morning's story says, though, is that actually, there was a second meeting that occurred in december, so that shows two things. one, it shows there was actually a ripening of this plot, maybe it wasn't that september meeting was just people sitting around spitballing, maybe say crazy ideas but that doesn't necessarily put you in legal jeopardy. now we're seeing in december there's money being placed, sort of potentially up to $15 million offer to actually exchange funds, and then there's more sort of detail in terms of what might occur. most significantly, in september, michael flynn is just a campaign adviser. he's a regular guy. in -- at the time of the december meeting he is the national security adviser designate for the united states, someone who has real power and authority potentially the ability to execute this plan. so it's no surprise that this is, you know, a profound interest to special counsel mueller's team.
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>> okay. they didn't do it. they didn't kidnap him as you say and get him out of the country. we don't know that they took the money. given that, is there still something that perhaps puts them in legal jeopardy concerning especially the second meeting? >> right. so certainly sort of the laws of attempt here, just allegations and flynn has denied all of these through his attorney, you know, but if you take sort of substantial steps towards the commission of a crime, so if he actually accepted money or sort of put this plan in action, not being able to complete it is sort of not -- you know, that doesn't necessarily sort of take him out of the realm of legal jeopardy. >> let me ask you one other interesting angle here, you will remember that one of the things that james comey the fired fbi director says, is that then president trump asked him to back off the investigation into michael flynn. does it paint that now in a whole new light? >> i think it just demonstrates sort of the seriousness of the inquiry into flynn at that time.
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this wasn't just about late filings or false statement claims where are pretty serious. this wasn't about just well maybe he got ahead of himself having a conversation during the transition, but the fbi was potentially investigating him for very, very serious allegations and so that does sort of put this, the nature of this interaction like hey, why don't we let him go, nudge from the president n a totally different light. if trump was aware of these allegations he's asking a former fbi director comey to overlook some very, very serious criminal conduct. >> we don't know how much or if the president knew about the turkish angle of this at all. there were other things he probably did not about at the time, that's another story. thanks for helping us understand this morning. >> thanks for having me. a quick handshake, a smile, president trump and vladimir putin, they exchange greetings here at a summit in vietnam. you just saw it right there. it happened. will there be more than that? stay with us. i have been diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer.
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all right. it happened just a short time ago. president trump and russian leader vladimir putin did shake hands at the summit in vietnam but will there be more and hold a formal meeting, even an informal meeting. sara murray joins us now live from this summit. where are we right now in what to expect from the two leaders? >> well, we're waiting to see if there will be any meeting. the white house has said there will not be a formal bilateral meeting but at the beginning of the trip president trump said -- >> all right. you can barely hear sara murray
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say at this point we do not know whether or not there will be a formal meeting. the russians say we can absolutely expect a pull aside as it's known. the two men will talk on the sidelines of this meeting. you know you can cover a lot of ground on the sidelines of this meeting, so even if they have just that, that in and of itself could be interesting. did i hear you say we have sara back? all right. we have lost sara murray communication. she is over in vietnam. again the two leaders there at the summit. i will never get tired, by the way, of the shirts they wear at these summits. a sign of the world coming together in fashion, not always good fashion. a former republican presidential candidate calls on roy moore to step aside. roy moore says he's not going anywhere. what are the implications inside that state and in the capitol? stay with us.
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this morning alabama senate
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candidate roy moore is promising to never give up the fight, despite the fact that four women are accusing him of sexual misconduct. a short time ago, our martin savidge in alabama speaking to the brother of roy moore, the brother told martin the victim here is the judge, saying that he is being persecuted like jesus. joining us now is cnn senior political analyst mark preston. mark, thank you very much for being with us. i'm glad we have you. we haven't laid out the nuts and bolts this morning about just what it would mean if roy moore said, for instance, he's not saying it now, but if he said i quit, i don't want to run anymore what would happen on the alabama ballot? >> a couple things, if he decided to remove himself, if he were to step out of the race and say i no longer want to run for whatever reason, whether he acknowledges what has happened or not, then it would basically be a free run for the democrat doug jones to win. the reason being, is because state law does not allow a name to be substituted on the ballot. having said that, if somebody
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like luther strange who is the current sitting alabama senator, the person who lost the primary to roy moore, if he decided to run as a write-in candidate and received more votes than the democrat doug jones on december 12th, then he would become the next alabama senator. >> this might be an academic exercise we're discussing right now because roy moore says he's not going anywhere and says he's not going to quit and his brother as i said told martin savidge it is judge moore being persecuted like jesus, what he said. there is a formulation in a lot of the response right now from some lawmakers around the country who say if the allegations or accusations from the four women are true roy moore should drop out. mitt romney former governor of massachusetts and republican nominee, he takes it one step further and he says, innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions not elections. believe corfman. her account is too serious to ignore. moore is unfit for office and should step aside.
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this is the significantly different response than from other republicans, many other republicans, right now. what do you make of it? >> a couple things, one is roy moore is not necessarily the same cup of political tea as mitt romney, a, put that on the table. no vested interest right now in the united states senate so he can speak his free mind. though i do think that what mitt romney is saying doesn't make sense. when i say that, his first sentence is, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not elections, and then goes on to say roy moore should leave office. i don't necessarily agree with his first sentence because i do believe that you should have the ability to defend yourself. having said that, if you look at this "washington post" story, 30 people have been interviewed, all the folks that have made allegations will have spoke on the record, have spoken on the record. they've used their names and put themselves out there. they've put themselves at great harm, perhaps not physical harm, but certainly emotional harm and their integrity going on down
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the line. i think this is a little bit of a different situation. but here's the key, though, jon. if roy moore does win and chooses not to leave, chooses not to leave and stays on the ballot and does with win in december, guess what, the senate has to let him come into the chamber. however, however, once they swear him in, they could turn around and all you would need is 67 votes, two-thirds of the united states senate, could then expel him from the u.s. senate. let me read you something from the congressional research service. they said that you can do so for a disciplinary measure to punish a member as well as a measure to protect the integrity and the dignity of the institution from those who have proven unworthy of continued membership. the united states senate, even if he wins they could knock him back out. >> bob menendez, from new jersey, faces a similar situation right now depending on the verdict of his trial here. i want to note that. going back to the formulation of the if true, then, you know, roy
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moore should drop out of the race, the predicament many republican leaders find themselves in is this, the story may never change from what we have this morning, you have four on the record statements, including from leigh corfman who said when she was 14 she was sexually molested by roy moore. says it on the record, her name is in print there, then judge moore says it's not true. that may be all we ever have on this. there may be no more evidence. it's a lot in terms of the some of the sexual harassment type allegations. you don't often get four people on the record speaking like this. if it never changes from this, doesn't move from this, what then? if you're mitch mcconnell who said if true, he should drop out? >> talk about being between a rock and hard place. one, as we're talking about expulsion or brought that up, you have mitch mcconnell who assuming that roy moore were to come to washington, mitch mcconnell if he accepted him into the republican conference, if he were to give him committee
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assignments, he could very much alienate a big, large chunk of his republican conference. meaning republican senators such as john miccain and others who said regardless roy moore should not be here in washington. put it on the table most of the republican senators here in washington don't want roy moore here. everyone talks about him being the 52nd vote and how they need him for tax reform and what have you, roy moore is not a guarantee on anything quite frankly. he's somebody who shoots from the hip and marches to his own trum. but i do believe if he does come to washington you will see the fabric of the republican party be torn apart even more and we saw steve bannon last night really egging that on in manchester, new hampshire, when he basically said it was "the washington post" who dropped a dime on roy moore and from my knowing of what drop a dime means, john, it means you're telling the truth. >> look, steve bannon said the same thing happened to donald trump with the "access hollywood" tapes which aren't in dispute.
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machu pico in peru au tract thousand of visitors but can their beauty be protected in the modern world. one man knows the answer here with us, bill weir host of "the wonder list" thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> there is nowhere on earth more stunning than ma chu pe chew. >> you've been. on so many bucket lists with venice an the great wall of china and like a lot of places it's being loved to death. and the new regulations restrict how many people can go in, the fact that you need a guide, but let me give you a little sample. if you've been dreaming about this place here's a taste of my first day in machu picchu. >> most archeologists believe all of this was built as a spot of ultimate relaxation and religion. the v.i.p.s of the inca world. a place to escape the crowded heat, relax among the clouds, worship the sun and the stars.
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>> reporter: fernando has been in charge of the site for 20 years, but he still gets giddy over new discoveries. [ speaking foreign language ] >> all of this was covered by soil, by dirt. all of this that you can see. >> i see. >> right down here. it all of this was finally uncovered. >> reporter: his team recently unearthed this celestial window carved without chisels to track the path of the sun for planting and worship. ♪ after a ten-minute climb i reached the spot i have seen photographs so many times. that high corner where the last inca ruler must have stood and smiled at the sun and thought, it is good to be the king. and maybe we should build
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another addition. up there. that's the young peak, machu picchu old peak. tomorrow we may try to climb that and i may die. >> you didn't die. >> i didn't die. >> good tease. >> so incredible when you figure all of that was created without wheels, without steel, these intricate templeses high in the mountain peaks. the incas at the top of the food chain. ruled south america and then came the spaniards looking for gold with the cannons and germs and the whole culture disappeared. the curse of the incas goes today even in the amazon. >> you talk about the amazon also and this gold rush. >> right. >> modern day gold rush in the amazon. >> elicit gold has passed cocaine as the illegal export in peru these days because the price of gold has been over $1,000 an ounce for nine years now and to feed that market, these guys trying to make a living go with pumps and hosts and blast the river banks of the
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amazon and turned 600 square miles of the pristine rain forest into toxic wasteland. >> that's not good. that's a tragedy. machu picchu everybody should see that. thank you for showing all of the beauty of that and thank you for "the wonder list". >> season finale. >> fantastic. watch "the wonder list" with bill weir tomorrow night 9:00 p.m. here on cnn. want to leave you with something here. first lady melania trump spoke with kate bennett in china and said about her first year as first lady. >> how are you feeling one year into this role as first lady? how has it been for you? >> it's my honor to be a first lady of the united states. and it was very busy year. and we love to live in washington. we have very busy life. it's exciting as well. i'm looking forward to work on
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behalf of the children. >> great. any frustrations or anything that has been unexpected or surprising for you? >> it's -- it's very exciting life. it's a lot of things that you need to take care of, a lot of responsibilities, and it's part of being a first lady. >> melania heads back to the united states shortly. thanks to kate bennett for that. growing calls for alabama senate candidate roy moore to step aside. mitt romney just weighed into this debate going much further than many of his republican colleagues, again roy moore, accused of sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl, three other teenagers, he pursued as well, according to the "washington post" all the latest developments coming up.
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hello. i'm kate bolduan. this morning, president trump and the republican party waking up to something of a nightmare. the party's nominee for the u.s. senate in alabama roy moore accused of sexually abusing a 14 year old girl decades ago. "the washington post" with the bombshell report spoke to three other women who say moore pursued romantic relationships with them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s. there were 30 people that "the washington post" spoke to, to corroborate these stories. moore, of course, is no stranger to controversy over the years and won the republican primary with the backing of the president's former chief strategist steve bannon and his


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