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of illegal conduct. good morning to you. the united states is promising to keep up pressure on syria after launching a military attack on the country overnight. >> yeah, american, french, and british warplanes, war ships targeted sites related to the chemical weapons program. this is days after dozens were suspected killed in a -- were killed in a suspected chemical attack. new pictures show there is debris in at least one city. minutes ago the british prime minister called the strikes successful. >> russia has called a meeting of the united states security council over what it calls an act of aggression. president trump says he is prepared to continue these
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strikes if necessary. video from syria shows the missiles in the sky after president trump announced coordinated strikes. >> we are prepared to sustain this response until the syrian regime stops its use of prohibited chemical agents. >> u.s. allies, britain, and france were part of the strikes on what are said to be chemical weapons facilities. >> the combined american, british, and french response to these atrocities will integrate all instruments of our national power, military, economic, and diplomatic. >> reporter: u.s. officials said they hit three targets including a biological warfare research center near damascus and two sites near homes. one a sarin gas production facility. the other a storage site and command post. >> we did everything we could in our intelligence assessment, in
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our planning to minimize to the maximum degree possible any chance of civilian casualties. >> cruise missiles were among the weapons used, and british tornado jets, u.s. b-1 bombers, and warships also part of the strike. >> we did have some initial surface-to-air missile activity from the syrian regime. that's the only retaliatory action that we're aware of at this time. >> the strikes come less than a week after a suspected chemical weapons attack on syria's rebel hie -held town of douma. victims including children shown dead and injured. cnn has not been able to verify the authenticity of the images independently. >> the evil and the despicable attack left mothers and fathers, infants and children trashing in pain and gasping for air. these are not the actions of a man, they are crimes of a
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monster instead. >> russia, which supports the government of bashar al assad and has troops in syria, said of the strikes, "we warned that such actions will not be left without consequences. all responsibility for them rests with washington, london, and paris." and president trump had this direct message to russia's president putin -- >> russia must decide if it will continue down this dark path or if it will join with civilized nations as a force for stability and peace. >> we're covering this story and the reaction the way that only cnn can with our correspondents and analysts across the board the board. nick paton walsh is live in syria. the syrians are claiming that most of the missiles were intercepted as they came in to syria. with the light of the new day, can you give us an idea of how accurate that might be and the effectiveness of these strikes? >> reporter: it's unclear at this stage. obviously the areas they landed in are controlled heavily by the
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regime, and much of the footage shown shows missile debris. i haven't seen personally a lot of the damage that's occurred. the syrian army command has been straight forward in saying that they consistent with general dumford in washington believe three sites were hit. social media suggests a much wider selection of targets than the three which the americans spoke about. the three which appear to be spoken of, two of the syrian command are a research center and two facilities, as you mentioned. a third doubling as a commands and control post. the two facilities seemingly involved in the production and storage of sarin gas and other chemical weapons and a focus on chemical weapons there at the facility. there appear to have been according to the syrian government three people injured because of some of those missiles being taken out on
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their way. we've heard accounts of salon and syrian officials saying that as many as 70 of the 110 or so may have been knocked out of the sky. that's never going to occurred if it's true three syrian offenses which would suggest that russia's more sophisticated air defenses may have been involved in all of this. we simply won't ever get to the bottom of the truth about this. i think we're waiting for the pentagon to give their side of how many missiles successfully went through. much of today has been about showing how it's really just another morning for the syrian regime here. president assad clear in how he wants to signal his response by posting a video of himself am belling gently through a marshall hallway through the -- marble hallway through the oe oeoefs -- office, as though he lost barely a night of sleep. this should have backers concerned of more extensive damage. it appears the target list was limited. it does appear the objective was quite limited.
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it's fair to say very little has changed overnight in terms of dynamic on the ground in the syrian civil war. we haven't seen a sudden shift in the balance of power at all. but we have, i'm sure, seen a clear message sent from the u.s., uk, and france about the use of chemical weapons that were being absorbed in damascus and moscow. i think it's fair to say, too, we have not seen a massive amount of damage. what we can say to this point about syrian regime infrastructure, you have to ask is bashar al assad on that gentle walk into work, is he pondering was it use the chemical weapons, or does he feel emboldened by how slight the response has been? back to you. >> nick paton walsh, appreciate it. thank you very much. want to go to the pentagon now. cnn's ryan brown is there. there have been differing verbiage, points of verbiage, from the president as compared to from, say, defense secretary mattis regarding if there are any more strikes coming. is there a clearer picture of
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that this morning? >> reporter: well, secretary mattis saying, asked specifically whether or not additional strikes, additional military operations could be expected. secretary mattis said that depends on mr. assad. pointing out that if president assad chose to use chemical weapons again, potentially something that could be looked at, additional retaliatory strikes. as far as this operation's concerned, secretary mattis called it a one shot. that the operation is concluded. however, should the regime of president assad use chemical weapons again, military retaliation is back on the table. you saw that this strike was significantly larger than the one that took place in april, 2017. secretary mattis saying twice the number of munitions used, multiple targets, three countries using warships, multiple aircraft involved. potential for additional action should the assad regime continue
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its use of chemical weapons. >> all right. ryan brown at the pentagon. thank you very much. russia has condemned the u.s.-led military strikes. nic robertson is cnn's diplomatic editor and joins us from moscow. the u.s. and its allies say they took careful steps to first prevent russian casualties and then, of course, avoid any escalation. walk us through the parameters of the narrow line they had to walk. they wanted to send a message but not to ramp this up. >> reporter: yeah. we heard from general mattis, secretary mattis saying that the russians may not have noticed a change in their dec-confliction daily phone calls. the french president called the president earlier in the day before the strikes happening overnight. and we've heard from the french saying that clearly that the intention here was to signal that they didn't want an
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escalation. we know that president macron told president putin that he wanted to continue their conversation. so there was this real effort to avoid an escalatian -- escalation here. russia has not changed its strategic aims inside syria. there's no indication that putin did what president trump suggested, that he turn away from the dark path that he is on in supporting president assad or done what mattis suggested that russia move the u.n. toward the peace talks in geneva. quite the opposite really. we've heard essentially a doubling down from russia's military saying that they will -- they're considering upgrading syria's air defense capabilities. they claim to have had success last night shooting down the number, significant number of the incoming missiles. but the underlying message here is that the -- the support of assad is continuing. that the military backing he gets from russia is not about to
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change. there's no political change from here. russia, putin calling for that emergency meeting at the u.n. security council. i think the only perhaps daylight that we can see between what we're hearing this morning and what we might have heard from russia is less bellicosity. we've heard from a russian figure who doesn't get a lot of airtime in this country. he said that the russian people don't support assad and accuse president putin of stealing pensioners' money to prop up assad. it's not a voice -- his voice is not going to get heard a lot here inside russia. but it is a voice of the opinion of some here that putin is spending too much of russia's money propping up assad. >> interesting. all right. nicaragua, appreciate it. thank you. want to continue with cnn national security analyst juliet kaim, assistant secretary of the
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department of heward homeland security -- of homeland security. thank you very much for being with us. by this military action by best we can account so far, more strategic or symbolic? >> somewhere in between, if i can answer that way. the reason why is it clearly was symbolic. symbolic to say to assad, look, you're going to use -- if you use a certain kind of weapon, then we will respond. and that's essentially what the pentagon and the white house left open, that if assad continues to use nerve gas or other weapons of mass destruction so to speak, we might come back in. but do i think that this limited air strike, no fatalities is really going to change the architecture of what's going on in syria now? assad in power being propped up by russia and are interests limited to an anti-isis or counter-isis strategy, no. i think that the fundamentals of
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what's happening in syria remain the same. getting back to your reporters, that seems clear simply by at least assad's stroll through syria to say that not much has changed. whether internally he thinks, okay, i won't use a weaponry, that remains to be seen. there's not huge shifts in the status quo in syria. >> as nic mentioned, one of the concerns was not to provoke russia to escalate the concerns on the ground in syria. the russian ambassador to the u.s. tweeted this out after the strikes -- "we are being threatened. we warn that such actions will not be left without consequence s." is that just -- consequences." is that just bluster from the russians, or what could the consequences be now? >> we don't know yet what are the consequences of the limited air strike.
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i think the russians will talk a big game but say to assad, don't do this again so we're not put in this position. i think russia and the united states know the consequences of getting too involved. and to nic's point, it's not like the russians are thrilled about what's going on in syria. there's a huge concern that syria is putin's vietnam or afghanistan. that it is draining the resources of russia. and so he has -- he doesn't have a tremendous interest in getting too involved as well in a fight with us in syria. so i'm -- i'm pretty confident that this was exactly what general mattis said, unlimited strike to make a statement. i don't think there's going to be much shifting and that the united states' strategic interest remains and should remain a counterterrorism interest to ensure that our allies, israel, and, of course, the homeland are all protected.
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>> juliet, always glad to have your perspective. thank you. unlike the 2017 strikes, this year the u.s. went along with allies. the french, british, and we're hearing from british prime minister theresa may. she said this, there must be a wider diplomatic effort to resolve the crisis in syria. we are live in london with more on that later this morning. also, michael cohen in the cross hairs. the latest evidence in the criminal investigation of the president's personal attorney. ♪ with expedia you could book a flight, hotel, car and activity all in one place. ♪
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being investigated for bank fraud, wire fraud, and campaign finance issues. cohen has been ordered to attend court on monday, by the way. joining us, cnn white house reporter. what are you hearing about all of this? >> reporter: when the fbi agents raided michael cohen's office, hotel room, and house on monday, something that really angered president trump, we are told that they did seize recordings between michael cohen and kath davidson. -- keith davidson. keith davidson is an attorney who represented stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, two women who said they had affairs with president trump. he is no longer their lawyer, we should note. it is important to note that they recorded conversations between cohen and keith davidson, something cohen is known as a standard practice for him. it would be interesting, prosecutors are clearly looking to see what it was michael cohen knew about the payments, what exactly his role was in all of this. they have obviously been looking at not only his role in the
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payment to stormy daniels, but also what role he played in trying to suppress the information about karen mcdougal, the former "playboy" playmate who says she does d have -- she did have an affair with president trump. this is interesting because it could prove valuable to investigators as they look at the role he played. this is going on as the white house is still maintaining that michael cohen does represent president trump. they spoke yesterday. the president actually called cohen as my colleague gloria borger reported. and raj shah said he does represent the president. michael cohen is close to president trump, a close confidante for the last seek or so. he represented the -- last decade or so. he represented the trump organization and has been spotted at the white house. he's close to the president and recordings between him and president trump would prove interesting. certainly something that will be troublesome for michael cohen if the investigators here get
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anything out of these recordings between him and keith davidson, that attorney. >> all right. thank you very much for the wrap-up there. caitlyn collins. i know it gets diluted and crazy with the names. we appreciate you walking us through it. thank you. joining us, errol lewis, political commentator and anchor for spectrum news. good morning to you. let's talk about the recordings between michael cohen and keith davidson. as caitlyn said there, this is the man who i guess some would say coincidentally both represented karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. the expectation is that these will be valuable to the investigators. how do you see -- where do you see the value? >> some of the value lies in whether or not the recordings were legal, depending on the state we're talking about, you're not supposed to record these issues. that's a slide issue in some ways. for the prosecutors, it can help establish whether or not the facts or the timeline that they've sort of created by other means can be corroborated with
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hard evidence. when michael cohen is talking with this particular attorney or anybody else about what he's doing and why he's doing it and on whose behalf, he's providing sort of a timeline, giving you breadcrumbs. letting you know potentially what the president knew or didn't know, what he may be acting on behalf of the president with or without the president's knowledge, what he was trying to do and when he was trying to do it and why. it's a treasure trove of information. again, it could be in the nature of confirming what the mueller team knows. >> the "new york times" reporting that the president's advisers are viewing the investigation into cohen as more threatening, more imminent to the president than even mueller's russia probe. considering all we learned in the emergency hearing yesterday for protection order to stop the fbi from getting into the files they seized on monday, you think they're right?
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>> absolutely. they do not know, michael cohen and his lawyers do not know exactly what was seized. it was done on a no-knock warrant. they went into the safe-deposit box of his bank. they took his phone, his computers. it is -- an amazing amount of information that they have. and it's hard to say -- i would be surprise d if michael cohen himself and his attorneys could say with any certainty what it is that's on all of the multiple devices, the sources of information. remember, they went to his home as well as two offices, and again, the safe-deposit box, it's impossible to sort of really create a kind of defense when the other side is holding all the cards. in this case, the u.s. attorney is holding all of the cards. they know what they were looking for. they know what they have. and michael cohen is -- one reason you saw him on the sidewalk is if they take your computers and phones and they've
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tossed your office, what are you left to do? >> there is nothing left to work with. let's talk about the story of the morning, syria. congressman thomas massey who's opposed u.s. military presence in syria for some time has tweeted this since the strikes last night. "i haven't read france's or britain's constitution, but i've read ours, and nowhere in it is presidential authority to strike syria." several democrats have called the attacks -- i should change that, the strikes illegal absent the authorization of military force specifically for syria. now you've got a republican who is coming out and keeping up the campaign of calling them unauthorized, at least maybe illegal. do you expect that there will be some traction here for congress to finally authorize? >> oh, yeah. not only members of congress, but there are a lot of forces on the right including the extreme right for whom trump's
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anti-interventionist rhetoric in the campaign, they were relying on. they will evoke the constitution and his statements on the campaign trail, his tweets in the years leading up to the campaign that he was not going to be the kind of president who would bring americans into what is often described as a quagmire in the middle east. he's doing just the opposite of what was promised, and there are both legal and political reasons that people are going to take issue with it, including members of the president's own base, absolutely. >> all right. errol lewis, thank you very much. >> thank you. british prime minister theresa may is talking about this overnight strike on syria, emphasizing it's not aimed at regime change, so to speak, but at deterring the use of chemical weapons in syria. live reports for you coming up from london and from paris.
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absurd." and a nato meeting is scheduled for this afternoon. >> the u.s. and its allies would not say how many missiles they used. the syrian armed forces claimed 110 missiles were fired and that its deficit systems intercepted most of them. president trump had this message for syria's allies. >> to iran and to russia, i ask, what kind of a nation wants to be associated with the mass murder of innocent men, women, and children? the nations of the world can be judged by the friends they keep. >> russia called the attack an act of aggression against a sovereign state and warned "that such actions will not be left without consequences." cnn's following the new reaction from u.s. allies and the strategy behind this strike. senior international reporting from london, and atika schubert from paris with us. ladies, thank you very much.
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talk to us about what prime minister theresa may said this morning in this press conference. she wanted to get the point across, as we understand it, to russia to understand that this is not about regime change or interference in a civil war. >> reporter: she really put this attack in douma along the same continuum as the attack that happened in the salisbury and the uk are sergei scriple, the double agent -- skripal, the double agent, and his daughter were targeted. the picture this is coalescing for us is that britain very much is not the junior partner in this. this is upabout britain's -- this is very much about britain's national interest. what we're hearing from british officials behind the scenes is that they were driving a lot of this. they felt it was time respond decisively and definitively to russia. >> all right. we appreciate it.
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thank you very much. let's go to atika. what are we hearing from france? >> reporter: france has confirmed, the french and foreign minister, that the jets have completed their mission and returned safely. according to the foreign minister, france believes that a significant part of the chemical weapons of syria have essentially been destroyed, its capabilities, because of the strikes. the french strikes were announced via twitter by the french president saying the line set has been crossed. i ordered the french armed forces to intervene as part of the national cooperation with the u.s., uk, and directed against the clan deficicit -- clandestine arsenal of the regime. the prime minister saying this was not about regime change. this is about at thor itting the use of -- about deterring the use of chemical weapons in syria. >> i know you're typically in
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berl berlin. we know that angela merkel called the attacks last week unacceptable. why was germany absent from this strike? >> reporter: germany is different from france and the uk. they typically tend not to become as involved with these sort of military operations. if they do become involved, it's a much more supportive role, helping with refueling and so forth. germany said they would not be taking part in any military action. but we have heard heard from chan chanceelor angela merkel saying the attacks were appropriate and limited and germany supports the actions france, the uk, and united states on this. >> thank you both so much for bringing us the latest from london and from paris there. now the b-1 bombers and storm shadow missiles, we know why the u.s. allies struck syria. we're learning more about how. (vo) why do subaru forester
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those, believed some of the latest video here we're getting in of syria this morning. we know the uk used its tornadoes in the attack, as well. we're also learning the u.s. specifically identified targets that were involved in the making of chemical weapons, but that would also avoid russian forces. national security and military analyst rebecca grant with us now. she's the president of iris independent research. thank you very much for being with us. first and foremost, as we get these reports again, and this is not confirmed from the u.s. or by cnn at this point, but that russia and syria saying that most of the missiles were intercepted. if that is true, what does that tell you about the effectiveness of this campaign? >> there are reports that they took shots at many of the missiles. which they say intercept, i don't think that necessarily means they shot them down. let me tell you, it's a very bad morning for putin and a bad
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morning in russia. as you know, our coalition has been flying out in the eastern part of syria a daily basis. there was a big question as to whether attacks could be launched on targets in and around damascus. britain, france, and the u.s. have managed to do that. they targeted right near damascus and near a major military base. so that syrian air difference system did not do its job. >> i want to listen here to syrian journalist danny mackie, one of the first people in syria that we're hearing from regarding what the consequence has been on the ground because of this strike. let's listen here. >> the presidency page in syria floated a picture of the president going to work as usual this morning. that's probably another ploy to show the world that things are continuing as normal. i can definitely tell you that in the hours between 4:30 and 5:30 this morning, things were not normal. this was not initially a symbolic strike in an airfield
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in the middle of nowhere. this was a strike within and around damascus for the first time since the crisis. >> this was, it's been characterized by the u.s., turkey, israel, that it was proportionate, it was targeted. they were trying to avoid any of the areas where russia may be there in syria based on what we know thus far. do you think it was a success? >> definitely a success. first of all, the russians are plenty of warning all week to get out of the way. as the reporter says, there was a strike close in daps cumascus. i'm impressed that they went after the chemical weapons storage and research. that shows superb investigations of the targets. it was proportionate.
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mattis put it really well. he said clearly assad did not get the message last year. well, this year's message is even stronger. and i think that message is being heard in moscow. i think it's being heard by kim jong-un in north korea. and that is that when this alliance gets together, we will not stand for the use of weapons of mass destruction and can go in with a modernized air defense and carry out this powerful and precise attack. >> we are hearing different -- we're getting different information, however. you know, throughout the overnight. we hear from defense secretary mattis. he said this is a one-time shot. president trump is saying we are prepared to sustain this response until the syrian regime stops the use of prohibited chemical agents. if there is another chemical attack in syria, is the u.s. now strapped so to speak to react?
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and would they react alone? >> i think we're able to react. i think both things are true. you know, dunford was careful to say that the current targets that had been fully executed. but our forces are still in the region. the forces doing the anti-isis mopup carried out 41 air strikes this past week alone. there's no question that we have the ability to go in again militarily if the president deems that necessary. i think our allies are closer with us than ever. the anti-isis coalition has over 70 members, countries, nato, so we will always have allies there. and i think this really is a new chapter that strengthens the allied use of precise power against entities that are trying to use weapons of mass destruction or thinking about it. i think it is a new chapter, and i think a positive one. >> all right. rebecca grant, appreciate your insight here. thank you for being here. >> thank you. a source tells cnn that president trump called to check
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it was just a phone call to check in, but it could mean a lot of legal trouble for premium and his personal attorney -- for president trump and his personal attorney, michael cohen. cohen's offices were raided after a referral by robert mueller. could the investigation be more harmful to the president than anything having to do with mueller's investigation. joining me is former white house ethics lawyer and currently teaches corporate law at the university of minnesota. good morning to you. so a source tells -- >> good morning. >> a source tells cnn that michael cohen called the president to check in. we know that he's been under investigation for months. both men involved in investigations. clear an ill-advised call.
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what are the potential problems about the phone call? >> reporter: well, unless the president was calling michael cohen for purposes of seeking legal advice, the call is not privileged meaning the fbi, the prosecutors could ask michael cohen about that call, could get evidence from michael cohen about what happened on that call and could ask president trump. i have no idea why anyone in their right mind would call up a lawyer to seek legal advice from a lawyer days after the fbi raided the lawyer's office. it's amazing that president trump didn't have the good judgment to let it alone, have nothing to do with michael cohen until this is sorted out. >> it doesn't matter this is not about legal advice. this is an old friend calling to say things will get better? >> well, he can do that, but the
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fbi may find out what was said in that call. michael cohen could cut a plea deal with the prosecutors and tell them what happened. the point is it's not a privileged call when the president just is calling to say, well, i'm sorry the fbi raided your office, and i'll provide bail money or a pardon. i have no idea what he said. but he shouldn't have made the call. it's stupid. >> let's turn to the mueller investigation. cnn's laura jarrett reporting that the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, has consulted with an ethics counselor, an adviser within the department of justice about the russia investigation and potential recusal. we know that part of the investigation is about obstruction of justice. rosenstein wrote letter making the case to fire former fbi director james comey. first, would you have expected
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because rosenstein could be a witness in this investigation, that he would have recused himself or will recuse himself soon? what do you make of the consultation with the ethics adviser? >> no. a consultation is always a good idea. but this recusal is being pushed by far right extremists. it does it -- it doesn't make any sense. he is not going to be an attorney in any trial. that's the rule -- the attorney cannot be an attorney at the trial as well as a witness. a lawyer can give advice to an enti entity. corporate counsels all the time are in a situation where that may be called as a witness but could supervise an outside investigation. here we have an independent special prosecutor, robert mueller. and deputy attorney general rod rosenste
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rosenstein's role is not to approve what mueller is doing. he approves indictments and a number of things. but i don't see any conflict. this is being contrived in order to try to attack rosenstein to get him out and put someone in who clearly does have a conflict. what these people want is to put someone in who's going to shut down robert mueller, fire robert mueller, constrain his investigation to the most narrow matters and protect president trump. i don't think -- the whole ethics issue is being contrived. he should, of course, talk to the ethics lawyers. there is no conflict. that's rubbish. >> you heard that he can't be potentially a witness and to oversee the investigation. but we're short on time. i've got to move to one more thing. the president pardoned scooter libby yesterday, former chief of staff, for -- former vice president dick cheney, convicted of perjury in 2007. the white house said of this simply that -- i'm reading from a quote of kellyanne conway,
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"many people think that scooter libby was a victim of special counsel gone among. the white house says this has nothing to do with the current special counsel. what do you think? was this a mention -- >> they're trying to send the message that perjury is okay. scooter libby was tried and convicted for perjury. that's not a special counsel going amok. you do not have the right to commit perjury. whether you are the chief of staff or the vice president of the united states, scooter libby was, or whether you work for the trump white house or whether you're president of the united states. and the message here that's being sent by president trump is that perjury is just fine so long as you do that. you lie under oath in order to protect your political superiors. everybody had forgotten about the whole scooter libby episode. president trump wants to dig it up to make sure that everybody in the mueller investigation understands go ahead and perjure yourself and the parton will be
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on the way. >> all right. richard, thank you very much for being with us. we've got to take a break. thank you very much. international reaction is coming in this morning after the u.s. launches a military strike on syria overnight. now president trump says he's prepared to attack again if needed. we are live from syria. ♪ ♪ ♪ this is what getting your car serviced at lincoln looks like. complementary pickup and delivery servicing now comes with every new lincoln. i won. giving you, the luxury of time. that's the lincoln way.
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