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the u.s. government may have just reopened, but the u.s. president is warning everyone, the chances of another government shutdown are pretty high. in venezuela, a sitting president fights to stay in power. his main opponent calls on people who take to the streets. also ahead this hour, another big night for hollywood. a look at the screen actors guild awards. we are live in cnn world headquarters in atlanta, i'm george howell. "cnn newsroom" starts now.
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3:00 a.m. on the u.s. east coast. thanks for being with us this day. here in the united states, after the last government shutdown ended, there's a threat another one is just around the corner. the u.s. president, donald trump, telling "the wall street journal," he is skeptical lawmakers can fund the wall. another shutdown is certainly an option. he also said he would use a national emergency declaration to get the funding for the border wall. the bottom line, the president's mind remains unchanged. it's unclear how the outcome of another stand off would be different. >> reporter: the white house is threatening a second shutdown. president trump and his team do not get what they want from democrats during the ongoing negotiations over border security. keep in mind, the continuing
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resolution that was passed goes through 21 days. we may face another government shutdown in three weeks if the president does not get border wall funding. nick mulvaney made the case on a sunday morning talk show. >> we have been hoping to do it through legislation with democrats, because that's the right way for the government to function. at the end of the day, the president's commitment is to fund the nation and will do it with or without congress. >> reporter: it's unclear how the white house thinks it will be different the second time around. they don't really have the numbers. one democrat voted for the plan to open the government. that was joe manchin. to get the money will be through a national emergency. that's an option that has been on the table for quite some
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time. the president has not moved in that direction because there's no guarantee it will work. democrats vowed to challenge it, so it would end up in the court system and not give the president the funding he wants for the border wall. boris sanchez, cnn, the white house. the shutdown cost the economy more than what mr. trump wants from the white house. the economy lost $6 billion because of lost productivity and lost economic activity to outside business. meanwhile, americans aren't happy with the way the government is running. a new nbc news wall street journal poll says 63% think we are on the wrong track. 28% think we are on the right track. the numbers are up seven points the last month. let's put it into perspective with leslie.
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she is from the university of london, live this hour. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> this is the week the president planned to give his state of the union address. that was obviously put on hold by the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. given where things are, do you feel she is under pressure to grant that or does that continue to be held up as the negotiations continue? >> well, there is a requirement that the president deliver a state of the union address. the question is not really when. nancy pelosi said that shouldn't happen until the government is reopened and properly functioning. a decision on friday to temporarily end the shutdown, there's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of instability. reopening the government is not as easy as it seems after 35 days of closure.
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it's not clear when it will take place. >> the president is skeptical legislatures will come up with an agreement to sign to fund the border wall he wants. the question i have for you, do democrats have a reason to budge here on their position or do they give him some of what he wants? >> i think there's pressure on all sides, on all parties, democrats and republicans to come up with a deal. it's not good for the country, it creates uncertainty economically and started, as we saw, on friday to raise serious questions about security and air travel. so, there is an incentive, but democrats are not willing to fund that border wall. they have talked about border security. they have talked about the ongoing discussion about whether a deal can be done on immigration, on the dreamers. i don't think we'll see nancy pelosi and the democrats really giving in on the money that
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president trump wants, very specifically for the wall. it's unclear, still, how it is going to be resolved. >> mr. trump's acting chief of staff, nick mulvaney says the president is willing to let the government shutdown if he doesn't get what he wants. the question is, why would the outcome be different here if he takes that route? the math doesn't add up. he doesn't have the votes. >> he doesn't have the votes. this is a president who is sense toif the polls. he had a sharp decline in approval ratings as a result of the extended shutdown. the republicans in congress took a hit in terms of public blaming the republicans in congress and blaming the president. i think there is, despite the rhetoric, i think the president will face an incentive to at least continue those negotiations rather than shutting the government down.
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again, it's very unclear how that plays. there are many things likely to bring the president into focus internationally as well as at home. perhaps he will simply get distracted. >> the president is prepared to declare a national emergency to build a wall for what he claims the national crisis, an option that would be thrown into the courts, even though it will not get him the wall he wants. do you see this as an out for the president to say, hey, i tried? >> again, i think he's speaking very much to that base, which by and large has stayed with him. the question of calling a national emergency, i think there will be a pushback and from the courts, in large part because the evidence, the data we have seen on security at the border simply don't demonstrate there is an impending crisis. there's very little by way of
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fact to back up this claim. so, despite his continued remarks that he might resort to calling a national emergency, it's difficult to see how that resolves the crisis and drag him further into difficult politics. >> you have to wonder what it means for the government workers who went through more than a month of pure hell to have this threat over their heads, again. this would be a reality for them. we have to see how this plays out. leslie, live in london, thank you. >> thank you. now, to the long-time trump friend and political adviser, roger stone. he heads to court tuesday, days after being arrested by federal agents. stone was indicted on charges including lying to congress to get dirt on hillary clinton from wikileaks. he pledged his loyalty to the president. early on sunday, stone warned this, if called to testify, he
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would do so truthfully. president trump is trying to distance himself, tweeting this, roger stone didn't work for me anywhere near the election. jessica snyder puts the facts first. >> reporter: roger stone has been making the media rounds before he gets to the courthouse on tuesday and before he appears before the judge overseeing the manafort and gates cases. she is tough. stone trying to get the last word in for a gag order. stone, leaving the door open to cooperation with the special counsel and saying he would tell the truth about communications with donald trump, which he says never involved russia. he was indicted on thursday and arrested in an early morning friday raid at his home in florida. he faces seven counts including obstruction, false statements to congress. here is what he said about the
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possibility of testifying for the special counsel. >> any chance you will cooperate with mueller, if he asks? >> that's a question i have to determine. if there's wrong doing by other people in the campaign that i know about, which i know of none, if there is, i would certainly testify honestly. i would testify honestly about other matters, including communications with the president. it's true, we spoke on the phone. they are political in nature. they are benign and certainly no conspiracy with russia. >> roger stone repeatedly said he would not testify against the president. also, stone said he has never discussed the possibility of a pardon with the president. he continues to maintain he is innocent, despite the text messages and e-mails the special counsel has. stone stands by his contention there was never collusion with russia. now, in the meantime, jerome
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corsi, described at person one in the indictment, who stone directed to get in tuouch with wikileaks founder, julian assange. all the information in the indictment is accurate and willing to testify to that in court. now, interestly, corsi said mueller has everything and knows everything. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >> thank you. now to venezuela where the opposition leader, juan guido is pushing out maduro from power. he told "the washington post" the opposition is in secret talks with military about ousting mr. maduro. he called for new rounds of anti-government protests. >> translator: we have events this week on wednesday and saturday. we have been asked, why not every day.
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we are in the process in venezuela where we have to fight to eat. we have to fight to survive. we are aware we can't do this without freedom. >> in a wide ranging interview with cnn turk, he said the u.s. is behind a coup to drive him out of power. meanwhile, john bolton reiterated the support for guido. he tweeted any opposition would be met with a significant response. one common denominator, both men are seeking the support of venezuela's military. over the weekend, they appealed to combat forces, urging them to join their sides. we have the latest from caracas. >> reporter: tension remains high here in caracas. on sunday, both maduro, the embattled president and juan
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guiado, the president who swore himself in as acting president, in order to call for fresh, free, fair elections pitched to the same audience, the military. it looks like the sole arbitrator. maduro demanded loyalty from his troops, guiado promised amnesty and pardon. guiado called for new, strict protest next week, next wednesday and saturday given the pressure on the maduro government to join the negotiating table. >> thank you, again. the murder of a journalist killed last october in istanbul. there are so many questions around what happened to him.
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now, a new u.n. human rights team is arriving in turkey to investigate what happened and what the saudis say did not. plus, theresa may feeling the pressure as she wrestles with lawmakers over brexit. the news continues after this break. stay with us. i thodid the ancestrydna toian. find out i'm only 16% italian. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom," i'm george howell. progress from both sides after six days after afghan peace talks between the united states and taliban. the u.s. senior official leading the talks said there had been headway on vital issues. there's no cease-fire announcement as of yet. the u.s. invaded afghanistan more than 17 years ago and u.s. troop withdrawal is one of the main issues on the table. here is what some people had to say in that nation's capital on sunday. >> translator: it is very good news, i hope they vote on a peace deal so our people can live in a peaceful situation. >> translator: everyone is tired
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of war and conflicts this this country. we support any agreement between afghans, americans and the taliban for the prosperity of our country. >> the taliban saying there has been progress with the united states, but more talks are needed. now to turkey with u.n. human rights experts are set to arrive monday to investigate the murder of -- he was killed back in october. they say the saudi prince ordered the murder. ben is live in beirut, lebanon. ben, what more could the investigators bring to bear, given where things stand right now? >> i think what they will bring to bear is the weight of the united nation's human rights counsel on this issue.
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this is the first international investigation into this murder that has been very thoroughly investigated, already, by the turkish authorities. this delegation is led by a specialist in summary extrajudicial of arbitrary excuses. she will meet with the foreign minister this morning. she put in a request to visit the saudi consulate in istanbul, where on the second of october he was murdered by saudi officials. the saudi officials always said this was a rogue team that carried out the executions, they weren't, as the cia believes, directed to do so by the saudi crown prince. she has not received any answer
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from the saudi authorities whether she will be allowed into the consulate in istanbul. she apparently, was asked to meet the saudi ambassador. no word on whether that meeting is going to happen. she will be in turkey for five days, the intention or plan is to travel to saudi arabia to collect further indication. there's no indication whether the saudi authorities will actually let her into the country. in the meantime, saudi arabia is conducting a trial of 11 individuals it says were involved in the murder. the prosecutor asked for the death sentence for five of those individuals, however, interestingly, the saudi authorities have not said who these 11 people on trial are. so, it will be interesting to see how this trip pans out, but certainly, given the hesitance of the saudis to lay out their
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cards about what they know. i don't think this trip is going to result in any sort of great shedding of light on the murder of jamal. >> determining or depending, rather, on what the investigators discover, conclude or find, does it put pressure on the united states given the support of saudi arabia? >> i think it's been fairly clear what we heard from u.s. president, donald trump, as well as mike pompeo, the secretary of state during his trip through the region recently, which he said the united states expects saudi arabia to hold those accountable who were behind the murder of jamal. i think that's really a rhetorical phrase more than an intention or statement of intention as far as actually
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bringing pressure to bear on saudi arabia. the trump administration has made it very clear, almost from the beginning that saudi purchases of arms and other material from the united states are far more important than, perhaps, the involvement of the saudi crown prince in the murder of a saudi citizen in a saudi consulate that happens to be or was a columnist for "the washington post." >> ben, thank you. now to the united kingdom, another test for britain's prime minister. a day away from when parliament will vote on theresa may's brexit plan. it could shift power away from the prime minister. with brexit, though, who knows what will happen. let's pose that question to anna
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stewart, following the story outside. the prime minister's pitches haven't gone well of late. how much is at stake for her as parliament picks up the debate this week? >> reporter: there's a lot at stake when you consider two months from tomorrow the uk will leave the eu. if they can't come to an agreement and theresa may's deal doesn't come through, they would crash out of the eu. this is something that has a lot of opposition in parliament. as a result, there are many mp's in parliament trying to seize control of the brexit process. they are going to do this with various ways, mostly through amendments spanning many, many pages attached to the motion tomorrow only a few will make it through. all the amendments have been changing the backstop issue, cancelling all together or extending article 50.
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the most popular one compels the government, if it doesn't reach a deal by the end of february, to push the brexit deal back. it needs permission from the eu to do that. pushing through plan "b" looks a lot like plan "a," through parliament, hoping for support. it's looking more hopeful this monday morning. boris johnson, usually a thorn in the prime minister's side is actually written a column in the daily telegraph coming out in support believing the prime minister is genuinely, truly fighting for a change. is she calling a fight for a freedom clause. perhaps she can win with the narrowing party and perhaps fight off the amendments tomorrow. george? >> the backstop is a delicate issue in the negotiations, anna. many officials in the eu quietly
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hoping there could be more momentum for the uk to remain, stay in the eu. is there a true momentum? is there a sign of that as you scan the spectrum here of political opinions out there? >> reporter: it's so interesting to gauge. within the uk, there's all this parliament discussion. we need to change it. the prime minister must seek something on this front. you speak to the eu leaders and hear from them and there's not much willingness to change, necessarily. for instance, you have the prime minister speak on bbc yesterday. he said there could be no change to the package the uk has. we have heard from the litt wayne y -- lithuania president. it depends who you listen to. you hope there will be room for a compromise here, at least from
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the uk side of things. i think it's a different story in brussels. george? >> anna stewart, thank you. the presidential stand off in venezuela is intensifying. both leaders there want the support of the military. the question here, who has the most leverage? we discuss the power struggle ahead for you. the philippines, hunting down the suspects after a deadly bombing. what we are learning about the bombing at a cathedral on sunday as newsroom pushes on. do you want ready to wear clothing without all the hassle? you can, with bounce dryer sheets. we dried one shirt without bounce, and an identical shirt using bounce. the bounce shirt has fewer wrinkles, less static, and more softness and freshness. bounce out wrinkles, bounce out static. they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use
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here in the united states and all around the world. you are watching "cnn newsroom" live from atlanta. i'm george howell with the headlines we are following for you. in this hour, the u.s. president says another shutdown is, quote, certainly an option, if he doesn't get the money he wants for the border wall. in an interview, he says he is skeptical lawmakers will reach an agreement by the next deadline. the deadline is set for february 15th. afghanistan saying the u.s. envoy heading up talks with the afghan president. they traveled after six days of negotiations with the taliban and qatar. a cease-fire was discussed. he tweeted there have been significant progress, but a number of issues left to work out. venezuelan opposition leader, juan guaido called for protest against the sitting president, maduro.
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why the opposition is in secret talks with military and government officials object ousting him. both the men seek the military support. let's talk about the power struggle playing out in venezuela with jennifer. she is at georgia state joining us. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> given where things stand right now, who would you say has more leverage inside venezuela, the sitting president, maduro, who is demanding loyalty or the self-declared opposition leader, juan guaido who is offering amnesty? >> mu daduro has the reigns of power, but guaido has legitimacy by being freely elected as a
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deputy in his congress and head of his congress and now international legitimacy with the popular support. it's sort of guns versus people, in a sense. i think it's still a stand off. it's hard to tell, yet, where exactly this is going to go. >> it comes down to the part of who has the military and the opposition looking for cracks in the foundation to see if they can peel off support and oust maduro. one of the factors that motivates military officials to reconsider their position. >> i think if they see that the popular support in venezuela continues to tilt away from maduro and toward guaido, that is a crucial factor. also the international pressure, financial pressure and
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legitimacy as the financial screws continue to turn as countries like the united states and england and others find ways to restrict venezuela's revenues, if they are able to find those ways. that has to affect the military. again, it's its own rank and file. as that grows increasingly desperate in terms of their living situation, that makes it difficult for them to carry out any orders to repress the people or any other orders from the government. >> to that point, the venezuelan economy has been in a state of crisis for some time now, now reacting to outside pressures from various nations. the nations are picking a side, right? you have russia and china on one side backing maduro, the united states and latin america countries supporting guaido. which side carries more leverage
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or more weight in what happens inside that country? >> i think it's a shame that internationally, it is coming to a division like this when we should be looking at the plight of the venezuelans in such a desperate situation. at this point, what's really called for are negotiations. there simply has to be talks. one of the things going back to your question of internal is this offer that you covered about the amnesty toward the military. if that can be made clear, if -- if the military and others in the government can be reassured about exactly what that means, that may help tilt the scene as well. that has to do with the international side as well. there is international human rights law that requires punishment for crimes against humanity and there have been allegations the government committed that with the harsh repression. there may be fear about
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international indictments, crimial court as well as the u.s. has indicted high-ranking officials within venezuela. >> the other question that many people look to venezuela, they wonder, the question of how long this country has seen economic turmoil. is there a sense, with fresh leadership that the country could, in fact, turn a corner? >> it will -- certainly they can turn a corner. obviously, they have been helped by china and russia. i think china and russia, themselves are concerned about their own investments in the country, given the nature of it. it will take a very long time to recover the oil industry and the rest of the economy that has been depleted and productivity just dissipated.
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so, it will take a while to recover. yes, it is certainly possible. >> jennifer mccoy from budapest. thank you for your time. we'll keep in touch with you. >> thank you. in the philippines, authorities are promising to hunt down people responsible for a bombing attack on a church that happened sunday. two blasts killed at least 20 people at a cathedral. isis claimed responsibility, but hasn't gotten evidence. matt rivers has more on this. >> there are dozens of casualties here in the philippines after a pair of explosions in a part of the southern philippines in a town called jolo. the first explosion took place inside a cathedral where people were attending sunday services. the second took place shortly there after. it occurred as they were rushing toward the church to assist
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victims in the first explosion. that's when the second occurred and the soldiers became victims themselves. fortunately, this is a region of the philippines that is no stranger to this kind of violence. for decades, there has been violence between christians and muslims in the area, between the government and forces in the area. in fact, just back in 2017, that islamic militants laid siege to a city called marawi. it took five months, 150 days for philippines military forces to get those militants out of the city. we know attacks have continued since then. addition nally, another piece of relevant information here is that a referendum vote took place last monday. that vote was relatively controversial. it was a vote, essentially on a plan created by the government and accept separatists.
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the hope there being that autonomy could help make that region more peaceful and more safe for the people that live there. the referendum did, ultimately pass. of course, not everyone voted for it, including the town of jolo, where this latest attack occurred. the government is not saying this attack had anything to do with that vote or previous violence in this region, only the investigation is ongoing. of course their priority remains the dozens of casualties that were the result of a pair of explosions on sunday in the southern philippines. matt river, c thrnn, the philippines. the devastation from a dam collapse in brazil. the death toll has risen to 58 people who lost their lives. officials warn that number will likely rise. rescuers are searching for
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people still missing. it unleashed a sea of mud and debris. that's where people were working. with each passing hour, the chance of finding survivors continues to shrink. search teams will not give up until they find everyone. in los angeles, hollywood honoring its own. the winners of the screen guild and what does it mean for the academy awars.
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we all know what it's like to be told that there is not a place for you to be featured, yet you are young, gifted and black. we knew, not that we would be around during an award season or make a billion dollars, but we knew we had something special. >> something special, indeed. speaking for the "black panther"
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cast, taking the best picture at the s.a.g. awards sunday in los angeles. along with the cast, glenn close was one of the big winners. sorting through the glitz and glamour is richard williams. richard, a pleasure to have you. >> i have to say, a sensational win for "black panther" and the first superhero movie. you heard, if you are young, gifted and black, this film gives you an extra boost and a wonderful release of colorful cast. michael b. jordan, a great victory. >> so, look, it comes down to the question, what can the s.a.g. awards tell us. with "black panther" winning
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could it be in line for best picture? >> i suspect that it will mean tremendous amount more interest in its possibilities. because it didn't get best director, the odds are heavily against winning best picture, the odds will be by "romo" which was heavily ignored. they may get a boost in acting categories. they are actors that represented. there's no doubt about it, they are going to beat christian bale from the id operformance of fre mercury in "bohemian rhapsody" and glenn close for her role in "the wife."
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>> were there real surprises to you for what you saw there in l.a.? >> there certainly were. the s.a.g.'s gave emily blunt two awards and nominations for "mary poppins" where she was the heroin for best actress and won for a spooky, but current movie. she did superbly there. the s.a.g.'s can be quirky. that's not a surprise. it was no surprise some folks need them for a star is born. the loser of the night, i'm afraid, for those like me who
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thought it was a brilliant movie, doesn't look like it will do good at the oscars. >> were there snubs to you, films you thought were fairly shut out? >> definitely so. i thought it was outrageous with the favorite, we have olivia coleman, emma stone among the nominees that weren't nominated for the best cast award. that was extraordinary. greenbook 2 should have. "bohemian rhapsody" and the regina king snub. that was extraordinary. i have to say, "a star is born" will be deeply disappointed, but "black panther" win shows a colorful movie with a tremendous
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resonance. they didn't think they would see a black movie take 1.3 billion. it has dope it. "roma" was snubbed, but may win best picture. it's a foreign movie. so, the oscars are all open and very exciting. >> richard, we will have to wait and see what happens. thank you, again. if you are a parent of a small child, you probably know this song and desperately wish you could escape it but guess what? yeah, you can't. ♪ baby shark doo-doo doo ♪ that's right.
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an update just into cnn. cuba's president says at least three people have died. 172 others injured after a tornado struck the nation's capital, havana, on sunday night. this is one of the first images we are seeing of rescuers on the scene. initial reports say strong winds damaged a number of public and
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residential buildings. the storm caused flooding in parts of havana and several provinces. we'll continue to follow that story. weather heading into the united states. more than 50 million people in the midwest and south are facing heavy snowfalls, freezeing storms and blizzards. the national weather service says several states may see the coldest air in generations. bundle up. now, to south korea, well known for the pop culture exports like k-pop, k-drama, but this time it's by a korean company dominating music charts, youtube, the world and your mind. you probably can't escape it. love it or hate it, "baby shark" is here to say. we have the report. >> reporter: if you have young children, this probably isn't the first time you are hearing this song. ♪ baby shark doo-doo doo-doo
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♪ baby shark doo-doo doo-doo ♪ baby shark >> reporter: the latest musical phenomenon out of south korea and one of the few to hit the top 40. more than 2.2 billion views on youtube so far, this song is insanely popular. the company behind the mania says they have different versions of the song in 11 languages. "baby shark" conquered the globe. no one knows where it started. a folk song that has always been around. i asked the man behind the latest craze if he knew it was gold when he made it? >> no one heard about him. such a huge boom all over the world. >> reporter: helping the craze, the parodies popping up online.
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♪ baby shark >> this r & b version. and deviating slightly from the original, a heavy metal version. live shows in singapore and malaysia, this one in seoul is in its fourth season. what is it about a family of sharks trying to eat small children that small children love so much?
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>> reporter: you know it's big when u.s. talk show, ellen degeneres does her own version or when james cordon does his version. what we know is you will probably be humming it for the rest of the day. pau pau paula hancox, cnn, seoul. >> thank you for being with us this hour of the "cnn newsroom." i'm george howell in cnn headquarters in atlanta. our news continues live from london. you are watching cnn, the world's news leader. welcome to the place where people go
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