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night, dr. sanjay gupta and anderson cooper, "coronavirus facts and fears." you can watch that at 10:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. and thanks so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts now. good evening, in just about an hour president trump is scheduled to speak to the country from the oval office about the coronavirus outbreak. he's expected to lay out some sort of a plan of action in the face of what the world health organization today for the first time labeled a pandemic. in other words, an outbreak with potential to touch everyone. not just in america, but around the globe. today, it's hard to argue that it hasn't already. all day, hour after hour, there were new signs of how significantly life has changed already and could change even more in the days and weeks and months ahead. >> is the worst yet to come, dr. fauci? >> yes, it is. i can say we will see more cases and things will get worse than they are right now. bottom line, it's going to get worse. >> if anyone out there believes
it is not going to get worse, you are simply mistaken. the numbers speak to that notion. the caseload topping 1,200 in the united states, up from 1,000 just hours before. washington, d.c.'s, mayor, announcing a state of emergency after a string of new cases there joining 21 other states and more many more localities. new york's governor designating a one-mile containment zone in the new york suburb of new rochelle. more colleges across the kcounty today canceled classes and switched over to distant learning. earlier today a bombshell from the ncaa, division 1 college basketball tournament seen by tens of millions and attended by hundreds of thousands around the country will be played without spectators. no fans. only families and essential staff. no fans, either, at tomorrow's nba game between the golden state warriors and brooklyn nets. the network, late night shows, also now audience-free. the state department late today suspended all nonessential travel. all of it. late today, we learned that all tours of the capitol are being stopped.
announcement is expected shortly. and as all this unfolded, financial markets fell sharply again. the dow industrials losing more than 1,400 point s in the day, officially slipping to bear market territory thi. this is what the president is up against tonight. what we're all up against. elsewhere in the world, italy for one, the situation is even darker. we're doing to bring you repo reporting from there as well as perspective on whether it's a sign of things to come in this country and if it is, that is very worrying. first, i want to check in with cnn's jim acosta at the white house. jim, the president is expected to speak. any idea what he's going to say? >> reporter: we do have some. indications, anderson, from sources briefed on the contents in this address cautioning us these contents may change, remarks may change before the president lays them out in this address to the nation from the oval office. but he's expected to lay out a path out of this crisis, according to these sources we've been talking to. and, anderson, what the president wants to convey also is the fact that this started in another country. it started in china. didn't start here.
and in the words of one source, this did not start in america, but america's going to find its way out of this. and so that is an indication, anderson, that the president is going to try to shift the blame somewhat and say, okay, this happened in china, it didn't start here. essentially, to make the point that, you know, this didn't oraniginate here in the united states. in terms of what he's going to recommend to the country, he's going to recommend a couple things. one is how to contain this coronavirus outbreak, but also to contain some of the panic in the economy right now. we're told from our sources that the president is going to lay out some economic breaks for some of the industries that have been affected by this. specifically, the travel industry like the airlines, cruise ships, hotel industry, that sort of thing. those companies, that industry, should expect some tax breaks outlined in this address. two other things to look for, anderson, whether or not the president declares some sort of national emergency. we're hearing that that is under active consideration inside the white house. b and also a homeland security
official told lawmakers earlier today the president and his team are considering the idea of new travel restrictions over to europe, whether or not those are outlined in this address is up in the air as far as we know at this moment. our sources were telling us earlier this afternoon that he's more likely to talk about these economic breaks for companies impacted by this crisis and they have been tremendously, a anderson. >> i'm a little confused. i don't understand -- and obviously, you know, we'll know more within an hour, but the whole thing of the president focusing that this didn't start here, what does that matter? like, what's the point of that? >> reporter: anderson, i think it is in part to address some of what is being said in conservative media. we've been seeing that brought up in conservative media over the last several days. and the president, we should point out, when he was meeting with banking executives earlier today in the cabinet room here at the white house, he made the point of saying that this started in china. and so there is a sense talking
to our sources who are familiar with this speech that the president wants to make that point crystal clear. to some extent, anderson, one of the problems the president has had, it is to a large extent, is he has not had the facts straight on this crisis. he has been contradicted time and again by his own health experts and so part of the reason why they wanted to have this oval office address is to show that the president is in command of the facts, that he's in command of where this process is going and where all of this originated. i was told by one source that he wants to have sort of a ceo-like moment looking in command from the oval office. the question, according to another source close to this process, is whether he conveys that he's in command of the facts because to be fair, a anderson, he hasn't been up until this point. >> right. i assume that means tonight he's not going to say that this is going to miraculously disappear from our shores as he said, i think -- >> reporter: that's right. >> -- a week and a week and a half ago with dimon and silicon
cheering him on. not going to say this will all go away, which is what i believe he said if it was yesterday or the day before that. >> reporter: this is just like the flu, he said that as well, even though dr. anthony fauci said on capitol hill the coronavirus is much, much worse than the flu. anderson, talking to our sources, one of the things they're telling us tonight, they believe the president is starting to, quote, get it, the question is whether or not that comes across in an hour from now, anderson. >> we'll see. jim acosta, appreciate it. we'll come back to you later. three medical and public health experts for reaction on the profound impacts the virus had across the world. with me dr. sanjay gupta, also joining us dr. lina winn of the city of baltimore. and the 19th surgeon general of the united states. dr. murthi serves on joe biden's current health advisory committee. sanjay, where are we right now, today versus where we were
yesterday? you see now a bigger reaction in the united states, the ncaa saying no more audiences, talk shows saying no audiences. >> i think this is a different phase now of things. i mean, some would argue, look, we've been in this other phase for some time. i think there's been an acknowledgement by lots of different organizations. i think dr. fauci's tone has changed. i mean, basically saying it doesn't matter if you have one case or no cases where you live, these cases are coming. it -- he very much reminded me of the idea of a storm coming the way he's speaking today, he's essentially telling people to batten down the hatches. he's maybe been saying this for some time, again, that it's going to get a foothold here. i think the language has gotten stronger. >> just in terms for people who are, you know, maybe paying more attention to this today than they were a week ago, what precautionary measures can people take now? >> well, you know, i think for the individuals, i think there's two major things. i mean, we've been talking a lot about what people can do to best protect themselves and at the same time saying, you know, 80% of people will likely recover.
i think there's a couple things to keep in mind, one is people will get sick still even among those 80%. they will recover, but this is something they need to be mindful of, make sure they can take best care of themselves, try and not get the disease in the first place but that their health is able to withstand a significant illness that may come. we also identified the vulnerable population. and the vulnerable population, the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions, we all now have an obligation to buffer around them. to protect them. >> when you're talking about the vulnerable population, people above the age of 70, 75? >> they say, yeah, 70s and 80s i would say. according to the data, anyone above 60. really people in their 70s and 80s who seem the most affected people. one things they wrote, dr. fauci talked about this yesterday, all healthy people have to conduct themselves as if they're a significant risk to anybody else with an underlying condition. how i interact with somebody, how i'd interact with my parents, for example, how i'd
interact anybody with an underlying -- >> protecting the elderly population is up to all of us because we can infect even if we, ourselves, are not showing symptoms or sick. >> that's right. we have an obligation. >> dr. winn, what do you make of dr. fauci testifying today to congress, quote, bottom line, it's going to get worse? that seems to be an understatement. if you follow at all what's happening in italy and obviously china, it is much, much worse there. and it seems like we are just starting to kind of get our arms around how bad it could be here. >> that's right, it definitely is going to get worse before we have any chance of it getting better. even if we look at two weeks ago, we only had 15 cases diagnosed in the u.s. and now we're well over a thousand cases. and that's even with limited testing. so as we get testing capacities up and going, we're going to find hundreds if not thousands of cases in the coming weeks and i'm really concerned about what's going to happen to our health care system.
woe could be overwhelming hospitals with patients who need ventilators, who need intensive care support and it's up to all of us as sanjay was just saying, it's up to all of us to try to reduce the rate of transmission so we don't overwhelm the health care system all at the same time. >> dr. murthi, do you know, i mean, how many icu beds are there, how many ventilators are there? i'm just trying to get a sense of where this may end up going because, again, i've just been reading up on what's been going on in italy, we're doing going k about that a little bit coming up, but if there are, you know, hundreds of thousands of elderly people who need to be hospitalized and among them tens of thousands or more who need to b be on ventilators, is there that capacity? >> this is a point of concern because what most doctors know and nurses know who are in the health care system is that every year during flu season, the hospitals get stretched to the limit. you'll see patients lined up in the hallways because there aren't enough beds. you'll see icus that are full. and this is just during regular flu season.
in a moment like this, where we have this novel coronavirus on top of the flu, this is really going to stretch our capacity not just with beds and ventilators, but we're already seeing that hospitals and health systems are struggling with the shortage of gloves and masks. we also know health care workers, themselves, as they get sick, quarantined, they get taken out of the workforce at exactly the time we need them. part of what we need to think about and really figure out as a country both now and also for future outbreaks, how do we build the surge capacity to supplement the people, the beds, the space, and the equipment that we need to really protect patients when they get ill. >> i want to talk more about this in a moment. we're going to take a quick break. we're also going to take a look at italy. the tragedy unfolding there. the lessons it may offer and the warnings that it offers that we better listen to. not only why it could happen here but why some believe it will happen here unless drastic steps are taken.
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well, as we await to hear from the president, there's a cautionary and, frankly, dark example of what this virus can do and is doing. i'm talking about in italy where it's being overwhelmed. the hospitals there overwhelmed. the cases and the fatalities have skyrocketed. more than 800 people have died there so far. hospitals are being pushed beyond capacity. and doctors are having to make the kind of treat-or-don't-treat decisions usually reserved for wartime. catastrophe medicine. if the president does not yet
see that as a possible sign of things to come here, our next guest does. ya shrks yasha monk a associate professor at john's hopkins university and he writes, "the coronavirus could spread with frightening a rapidity, overwhelming our health care system, claiming lives until we adopt serious forms of social distancing. this suggests anyone in a position of power or authority instead of downplaying the dangers of the coronavirus should ask people to stay away from public places, canceling big gatherings and restrict most forms of nonessential travel." professor, thanks for being with us. i read your piece this morning, a doctor friend of mine sent it to me in "the atlantic." and i got to say, it is terrifying and i'm glad i read it because i feel like i have a greater sense of what it is actually already happening in italy. you started off by pointing out two weeks ago in italy 322 confirmed cases, one week ago, 2,502 confirmed cases.
today, 10,149 cases. this thing is moving fast. talk about what's happening in italy and the kind of choices that doctors are making about who lives and who dies. >> yeah, first of all, the fact you're drawing attention to is this disease increases at an exponential rate. we saw that in china. we saw that in the beginning in south korea. we're seeing that germany and seeing it most dramatically in italy right now. now, what happens when you jump in a matter of 2 weeks from 100 to 1,000 and 1,000 to 10,000 cases is that more and more people come into the emergency rooms, into the intensive care units, in hospitals in those cities and very quickly it overwhelms the ability of a hospital to deal with it, it overwhelms the material they need, particularly with artificial ventilators, and as a result, doctors are being pushed to the point where they might have to make a choice about which patient gets one of those ventilators and which patient is denied further care which most
likely means they're going to die. >> you focus in this article about guidelines that italian physicians working in intensive care have now put out for other doctors in italy essentially telling them, or helping them to make those decisions. those triage decisions. and we're not talking about who gets treated first. we're talking about who gets treated and who doesn't get treated. for instance, if a patient is very old, they might decide, well, given the limited resources, and we don't have enough ventilators or hospital beds, if someone's very old, they're not likely to live longer, anyway, and so we'll treat somebody who's slightly younger or if there's somebody younger but they have comorbidi comorbidity, that's going to make it harder for them to survive, they won't get treatment, we're going to focus on someone else. those are the decisions that are already being made, right? >> yes, so we don't know exactly to what extent they're being made, but all the indications are that the emergencywhelmed a point. this is the guidance the doctors
are being given. so in essence what we're trying to do is use the cost resources in order to increase the benefit to the greatest numbers and so the guidance says that if a patient is very old and, therefore, has less likelihood to recover and would have less fewer life years left, even if they do recover, if a patient comes into the intensive care unit with a lot of other pre-existi pre-existing conditions such that they're less likely to make it, then they should be deprioritized for care and that care should go to other people. now, i have to tell you, you know, my training, i'm not a medical doctor, my training actually is in moral philosophy and political theory. and i've spent many hours sitting around fancy seminar rooms trying to think through, you know, how to respond to those kinds of moral dilemmas and i have no idea at all whether these doctors are doing the right thing. i have no idea what people should do under those circumstances, but one thing i do know which is that as we've seen these number of cases rise exponentially in other
countries, we've been sitting on our hands here. and right now, we can still act. we can still increase social distan distancing. we can cancel all of those events so that doctors and nurses here in this country are not going to have to take those tragic, those impossible, choices days or weeks from now. >> as you say, the end of the article, i urge people to read it, "cancel everything now." yasha monk, i appreciate aryour time. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> back with our medical team. sanjay, those are stark choices. we think of that happening on the battlefield. >> yeah. >> the idea they put out guidelines in italy, whether it's happening today or going to happen next week, thankfully, let's hope it doesn't happen at all, but those are -- i don't think a lot of people here are used to situations where it's the doctors' call, we just don't have time to -- we just can't devote resources to saving your grandfather because there's somebody else who has a better chance of survival. >> we know we could potentially save your grandfather if we had the resources, but we don't. i mean, that's the thing.
i mean, doctors make triage decisions all the time. it's usually based on the fact they don't think someone will survive the treatment. these are people who would survive if only we had enough resources. you've known me a long time, i'm not the kind of guy who screams things from the roof. we've been talking about the need for preparedness in this country for some time. our health care system does so many things well but it's not a system that's built on redundancy. that's why we don't have all that he was talking about in terms of surge capacity. we don't have what we need. i know the numbers. we would need potentially 100,000 more icu beds. we would need to have enough ventilators, probably have enough ventilators right now but many of them are being used. you know -- >> so, wait, we would need 100,000 more intensive care beds than we currently have. >> correct. we have about 100,000. the projections are with a moderate pandemic, this may be moderate, hopefully it's not more severe, you would need 200,000, roughly, icu beds. >> you're talking about then -- assuming doctors get sick or doctors are overwhelmed, i mean, you know, we've seen in other
countries the military gets called in, the national guard gets called in, opening up field hospitals. >> that's right. and that likely will happen here because, again, as was mentioned, we need space. every public building, you walk around a city, that could be open space for us. high school gymnasiums. convention centers. >> it could actually get to that point here. >> look, i mean, people are going to, you know, reemp oach o me on social saying this is being hyperbolic and too much. look, this is the federal government's own modeling and now we know what's happening with the cases. so many of the patients, if you look at patients who died in china, many of those were preventable deaths. it was a taxing on the hospital system that led to these deaths. in italy as yasha just described, it's a taxing of the medical system. the virus is bad. we know that. it can make people sick. people can be cared for if we plan and prepare ahead. i'm not sure that we have in this country yet. >> dr. wen, what do you make of what's happening in italy, and,
again, don't want to be alarmist, but i want to be realistic. >> i think alarmist is actually the right approach for us to take right now because if anything, we've been underreacting which is why we're in a position that we're in now. i mean, this is the calm before the storm. and so i understand why people are saying, well, why are you canceling events now? why are we doing all these things? well, it's because we see the models of what will happen. we see what's happened in other countries. we know that we are about to get to a phase. not in a month's time but in days to weeks where we're going to see a really sharp escalation of the number of cases. we can prevent that, though, if we take these social distancing measures that yasha wrote about that public health experts are recommending. and these are painful, challenging, things for people to decide. i mean, they are closing schools. not going to work. shutting down large events. these are challenging decisions to make. especially when nothing seems to
be happening now. but if we don't do that, then we are going to face a situation where we're rationing health care and people who could otherwise have survived will die. >> so, dr. murthy, what more needs to be done now, right now? what more can we do, individuals do, companies do, government do? >> well, i'm glad you're asking, anderson, because this is a moment where we need all hands on deck. if you're an individual, we need you to think carefully about your own personal practices in terms of your handwashing, making sure that if you're sick, you stay home. making sure that you're not touching your face as often as you do or hopefully not at all. unless you wash your hands first because that's a common way that infection gets transmitted. but we also need workplaces to step up and start accelerating telework options so that people don't have to come in and congregate at work. we need organizations that are responsible for large events to cancel those events or postpone them in the interest of not transmitting infection in large groups. look, these are hard decisions
to make. there is a cost, an economic cost, a human kofrcost, to maki these decisions but it's important to make them now so we don't have to make much bigger, you know, payments later on in terms of human lives and in terms of money. you know, finally, let's just remember this, this is the worst pandemic that we have experienced in the last century. and it's going to take a toll on us, but we know how to address this. what we have to remember is that this is a moment, a kind of moment that comes along every so often in the world's history, where we have to come together as a country, as countries around the world, to take on an issue that we can only resolve together. so this is a solidarity moment and that is the only way we are going to overcome this virus. >> doctors, i appreciate it. thank you. coming up next, if president trump does propose financial leave for the coronavirus tonight, what will that look like? and is congress satisfied with what it's been hearing so far? that and more on the virus when
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weeks ago, late yesterday it was this is all just going to go away. >> i think dr. fauci was telling the truth. i think that the cases that we identify going forward are going to be measure numerous than what we've seen so far and so it is going to get worse before it becomes better. and i think that does run contrary to some of the programming, if you will, of the spin that the president seems to put on what's happening right now. i think i saw a quote that he said everything's going extremely well. as you can tell, most of the public does not think so, and it's having ripples in the economy, not to mention, obviously, the health impact on so many communities across the country now. >> also, i mean, just doctors that i'm talking to, they seem more concerned about this, i mean, i got -- i talked to a number of doctors just today and yesterday and i was surprised that at the urgency and great,
great concern many of them are expressing. >> yes. >> about what they are seeing in hospitals. we learned at the top of the hour, the president is expected to say crisis isn't america's doing and likely note the virus was first detected in china. do you understand the point of why that would be worth the valuable time of the president and the american public? >> well, it's finger pointing, right? i think he wants to potentially say that this was a -- somehow a chinese-sponsored virus when, of course, the w.h.o. today certified this as a global pandemic, meaning it's something that has spread throughout the world at this point. and so now we're dealing with an american problem. not just a problem that was originally in another country. because it is an american problem, now we have to move very quickly. for instance, with testing. and here we have been, unfortunately, flatfooted in terms of testing as many people as possible who may be in hot
zones or in areas where there might be community spread so we can get ahead of the virus. >> health and human services secretary alex azar still cannot say how many people -- >> no. >> -- have been tested in the united states which i find remarkable. mine, i w i mean, i was talking to sanjay gupta in the commercial break, cnn has been calling around state by state to find out locally how many tests have been done to try to get an accounting of this. the idea that the federal government doesn't know is kind of, i don't know, it sounds stunning to me. do they -- is there reason why they wouldn't want to know? >> well, i think that today we elicited the fact that director redfield of the cdc thinks there's probably, you know, about 5,000 tests that have been done in total but in comparison to some of our allied countries, italy, korea, the uk, that is a paltry number of tests that have
been conducted. just as an example, in korea, there they have tested 4,000 people for every 1 million residents compared to the united states where we have tested 15 people for every 1 million residents. so, our allies, so to speak, are moving aggressively on this and we're not. >> the -- you know, the vice president has been saying, you know, that a million tests are out there and that all state, you know, laboratories are able to conduct tests. all the accounts, though, of people trying to get tests, it is not -- it is not an easy thing at all to get tested. >> no, it's not. it's one thing to actually shift these tests and, again, we don't know exactly what the numbers are. we seem to get, you know, differing estimates on that. but really, at the end of the day, anderson, it boils down to how many tests have actually been performed and there we do run into a lot of constituent complaints that are coming into my office every single day where
people are saying, we don't know where the tests are. doctors are calling health departments and the health departments are saying they don't have test kits and so, we're basically running into a problem where we just don't have enough people being tested. that's the bottom line. and unless we can outpace the spread of the virus, if we cannot test more people or go at a rate that's faster than the virus is spreading, then we're not going to get hehead of it je korea and the uk have, but we got to move very quickly tonight. >> yeah, congressman, i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you, sir. up next, we're going to talk to a doctor who treated two members on a california tour group who went on a ski vacation to italy. all of them came back with the virus. the whole group. we'll be right back. at fidelity, we can help you build
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caseload in the united states grows, we wait to hear what the president plans to do about it in about 20 minutes, the story of what began as a dream ski vacation to the italian alps, all 14 men from that trip, all relatively young and in good health have now been diagnosed with coronavirus and four were hospitalized. joining me now, the doctor who's currently treating two of the men, dr. sam fink. dr. fink, thanks for being with us. these group of 15 skiers, many of those who got sick are relatively young. can you just -- i understand some of them, are they in their 40s and 50s, is that right? >> well, what struck me, and the reason i posted on facebook was because all 13 actually -- it was 13 -- became positive. they got to italy, nice ski vacation, within one day storm became ill. within two to three days, everybody was ill. they had fever, chills. within a week, they had a dry cough. some were short of breath. then within another week, four of them who had been hospitalized including my patient and three of those hospitalized were placed in the
icu and they remain in the icu and they're quite ill. fortunately, my patient went home yesterday. >> so your patient went home, the others are still in the icu. you wrote in that facebook post about this. you said, "i practiced for over 30 years and have seen it all or so i thought. nothing has "what about this worries you so? i know you believe more should be done right now. >> yes, i've never seen any illness, 13 exposed, 13 of them get it. four in the icu. ages in the icu, 40s, 50s, 60s. only one has a pre-existing condition. so this really worries me. i think in addition to what's been done, i think we should be closing all schools at this point. now, children do well with this virus in general, but then they come home and they hug their grandpa and he goes to the icu. so we really got to help the health care system handle this. one of the ways we can do this
is by minimizing the number of cases we see. coronavirus is here. it's going -- you know, it's present. there's not much we can do about it. one thing we can do is do the best we can to minimize the number of cases and this load on hospitals and icu beds. >> dr. fink, i want to bring in dr. sanjay gupta i know has questions of his own for you. >> so one of the things that keeps coming up, dr. fink, and you're on the frontline of this, is we don't have enough of these beds. we don't have enough of these ventilators. and i feel like people have been talking about this for some time. is there a -- is there a solution? i mean, more money, you know, buying ventilators? how do you think this is going to play out? >> well, i think it's difficult because we have to operate with what we have now. right now, we have only a few tests out there. we don't have a vaccine. although, one will be around within six months. but it's not going to affect this outbreak. we don't have treatment, although people who are very ill can receive experimental treatments. in my mind, if i want to solve
this now or if i want to help it now, i'd try to minimize the number of cases. in my mind, that is the best approach to deal with this because i don't want to have to make the choices that they're making in italy. the america i grew up in never had to make those choices. >> so if -- the people you saw who are on this trip are in their 40s and 50s, that's not the 70s, 80s, and older people that we've been told about. that seems to me, and correct me if i'm wrong, there's just a lot about this virus we still don't know. is that correct? >> that's very true, in fact, one of the interesting things is the person that has done the best and was the -- and is the least ill, he's 82. the oldest member of the group. >> dr. fink, i appreciate it and i hope your folks get better quickly. and their families are doing okay. sanjay, thank you. we're just about 15 minutes away from the president's oval office address. coming up next, what we know about what he'll say. we'll talk about that ahead. when it comes to autism,
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in just a few minutes president trump will talk to the country from the oval office about the coronavirus pandemic. a top member of his task force, dr. anthony fauci, said today would get worse. in another sign of how quickly this is deteriorating, there's this, the nba game between the utah jazz and oklahoma city thunder were abruptly postponed tonight. players were on the court for warmups and called back to the locker rooms before tip-off. the decision to not play was made by the nba and not by either team. as we get ready, i want to quickly go back to the white house and cnn's jim accost fap a few minutes left until the president's going to speak. do we have any information on what he may be saying? >> reporter: a few more details, anderson. we expect this address to be about 10 to 12 minutes.
the president is expected to announce a ban of new travel restrictions for airline passengers heading overseas. obviously, that's going to be critical because so many people may be interested in flocking to europe where they havei'm told the speech that this -- had this batch of travel restrictions that will be announced by the president, it is based on input coming in from the scientific and medical communities. the source said we know the president likes to shoot from the hip but much of what the president will lay out is based on input from the scientists and the medical community. so this is a striking contrast from what we've been hearing from the president in the last several weeks. the president is also expected to urge americans to follow the cdc recommendations, wash hands and practice social distancing. this is one of the areas where the president hasn't always led by example. he's continuing to shake hands despite what the the cdc is telling the public, that they should keep their distance to make sure they don't catch this
very dangerous virus. and one other thing to point out, stephen miller, the speech writer, apparently he was a quote, driving force behind this speech and jared kushner has been playing a more instrumental role in guiding the coronavirus response. we're told sources telling dana bash and jeremy diamond that tonight. >> and much to the criticism of trump's handling stems from his comments that underplayed the severity of the virus. take a look. >> by april, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. >> the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. we have very few people with it. the people are getting better. they're all getting better. >> we're close to a vaccine. >> we're going down not up. substantially down not up. of the 15 people, the original 15 as i call them, eight of them have returned to their homes to
stay in their homes until fully recovered. and again when you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done. >> it is going to disappear. one day it is like a miracle, it will disappear. and from our shores, it could get worse before it gets better. it could maybe go away. we'll see what happens. nobody really knows. >> anybody that needs a test gets a test. they're there. they have the test. and the tests are beautiful. anybody that needs a test gets a test. as of right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test, that is the important thing, and the tests are all perfect. like the letter was perfect. the transcript was perfect. this is not as perfect as that, but pretty good. >> it will go away. just stay calm. it will go away. >> joining us now is david gurgen advised ford, and nixon
and rick santee and dana bash. woup advise this president to continue saying things like he has been saying? >> no. i'm glad the president is making an address. millions of americans are nervous on the edge of their seats asking about the future of the health care and the families asking about the future of savings so it is good to make the speech but the big question more happy talk tonight or straight talk. the happy talk from trump has been this is all going to go away. fauci legendary figure to six presidents, six presidents, saying it is going to get worse before it gets better. president said say vaccine is near and fauci said a year to a year an and a half for that. you go down the line of the questions, the president will seize on the science and make it a happy ending and that is not what the country is going through. just here in massachusetts, two weeks ago we had bio gen a company to have a conference.
two day conference. we have 92 cases of -- in this state now of people who have the virus. 70 of them, 70 of them came from that bio gen conference. >> senator sand or um, what do you want to hear from the president tonight. because to hear him say that anybody who wants it could get a test, we just know that is not true. it is not going to just disappear. let's hope it does. hope is not a plan. >> that is not a plan. so, look, i think this is maybe the most significant speech of his presidency. at least i think we're getting into a period of time which i think -- think his presidency will be judged on. this is a moment when presidents matter. as david said, in the last few days i think things and attitudes and moods have change nds -- changed in this country and looking at schools closing
and the nba shutting down a game. this is now reaching a big threat. and if the president doesn't grasp that and show leadership and show -- and display confidence in a plan that not just trying to get the economy going, the issue is not the economy, the issue is trying to assure the american public that we have a plan in place or we'll be putting a plan in place and do whatever is necessary to make sure that we arrest this virus before it becomes lethal to our -- to too many people in the country and to the economy in the country. so that is what the president has to do. he has to begin that. he won't do it on one speech. i don't expect him to do that but we need a change in tone and attitude of this president assuming leadership and, again, i don't expect him to do it all. he has a great team around him. he has people that the public trusts. he needs to put them front and center and they need to be telling the truth and hopefully
the american public will listen to that. because what we saw in italy is the italian public doesn't -- didn't listen and look at the consequences. >> and you said look what a good job and lambasted for that and the are president has said the equivalent of that, the tests are perfect, anybody could get one and it is going to disappear and miraculous disappearance from our shores, what are you hearing from sources about will there be a change in tone or approach from the president, will he acknowledge the reality that so many doctors are telling us? >> well i was told by sources familiar with the president's thinking that he has begun to understand the reality that senator santorum said that we've been reporting 24/7. this is not something that he could will away. this is not something that he clearly believed before that he could change with his remarkable
power of persuasion that he has done in business before, in politics before. this is a completely different animal. and we're talking about two things. first of all, just the fundamental health issue, the health crisis, but what is in the back of his mind that -- that has driven all of his analogy heck of a job brownies is his concern for the economy and the two have come together in the fact that he has believed that he can calm the economy by saying nothing to see here. when, in fact, i'm told that reality is setting it, it is setting in that he's starting to realize that by saying nothing to see here, it is rattling the economy more. never mind -- never mind what matters more than that which is the public health and safety of the people he's leading. >> david, if the president does not go on television tonight saying with a different tone as senator sand santorum pointed
out and hopes, according to the doctors, if this does get as bad as -- here as it is in italy, where doctors are drawing up guidelines for how to -- who lives and who dies and how to make those choices to advise other doctors, there is going to have to be another speech down the road -- >> exactly. >> -- for that. >> yeah, worst thing you could do is what senator said is at a serious moment for the country, that you engage in happy talk, that you oversell and underdeliver and he'll be held accountable for that politically in the reelection campaign if that is the case. i can't emphasize enough, when you have a crisis like this and next door to italy angela merkel said in the last 24 hours that 70% of the people in her country of germany could be infected before this is over. that is an astonishing number.
and that is why the president has to take this seriously. >> i have to toss over to chris. the news continues. we hand over to chris for "cuomo prime time." >> i'm chris cuomo and welcome to "cuomo prime time." the president will face you and will he face in reality the biggest of his tenure. the country is struggling with with the unknown and changes to every day life. trump frankly has added to the distress by telling us there are enough tests, not true. that this will all be gone soon. not true. you know that there is only one way for the numbers to do right now. and it is up. will he be the leader this country needs? will he tell you the truth and more importantly will he give you confidence in what he and the government can do about it. is there a plan? is there an outline of what happens and when? we'll see. let's get insight from cnn jim
sa acosta at the white house. >> reporter: we're expecting this address from the oval office in a few minutes from now. the president is expected to talk for about 10 or 12 minutes, from what we understand talking to our sources briefed on the remarks and they caution us things could move into and out of the remarks but that he is expected to recommend new travel restrictions and/or advisory for airline passengers heading overseas and expected to offer up new tax breaks and other economic breaks for these hard-hit industries clobbered by the coronavirus like the airlines, holts and so on. and then urging americans to follow the cdc guidelines, wash their hands, practice social distancing. some of the things quite frankly he's been criticized for not following. but at the end of the day one source told me the president wants to project calm, that he has a way out of this crisis. the question that i think tonight, chris, is whether or not americans trust the president to see this country out of this crisis. >> that is a