tv CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera CNN May 31, 2020 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT
thank you for being with us, i am ana cabrera. it is the sixth straight day of protests following the death of george floyd. the black man who died after a white police officer kneeled on his neck. these are images where you can see vandalized vehicles and maybe the national guard at the end there, the governor did order national guard to assist law enforcement tonight after the violence there went out of control and many other cities across the nation. we know there are more than 20 states and nearly 40 cities enacted curfew tonight. heading to washington where a tense situation is unfolding at the white house. our cnn's alex marquardt is
live. >> reporter: that's right, this is heavily with police right now and protesters have moved in here and gotten fired upon with pepper spray rounds. looks like protesters are on the move. they're going around to a different side of the white house. they have been here for the last several hours, having marched from howard university, many of them and not all of them of course and what was very much a peaceful march. clearly they're moving to a different location. that gives me a chance to show you what we have been seeing here, this very long line of a
mix of different types of police forces. they have been moving back but they had been firing into the crowd when they got a little unru unruly. this is the heart of washington, d.c., because this is right outside the white house, you have extraordinary amount of manpower and fire power and a mix of secret services and park police and metro washington, d.c. police and homeland security. as we noted earlier on the d.c. national guards have been called up. the sun is about to set. the mood is certainly turning and i fear having seen a lot of protests turning for the worse. there has been projectile going back and forth. we have seen here in the past few nights but these protesters
angry and frustrated and have been out here for a long time. they are fnow on the move but nt going home and certainly not leaving. protesters are taking it around to what it seems to a different side of the white house. a lot of what we heard from these protests. it could be put into two buckets, a lot nger directed fi at the man who occupies the white house, president trump, who protesters have heard nothing. instead from what they have heard from the president is unleashing dogs and ominous weapons against them. something the mayor of d.c. responded harshly to. a tense scene right at the heart
of the nation's capitol and right outside the white house and these protests that are certainly changing and evolving and getting more tense, potentially getting more violent and show no signs of them leaving, ana. >> alex marquardt, thank you. i want to take you to philadelphia. brian, what are you seeing right now? >> reporter: ana, we are kind of moving in the state area right here. they have apparently instituted this curfew and they are told municipal workers should not come to work tomorrow. the building will be closed tomorrow. we also have arrests they have made on several arrests and at least a number or so of looting since noon today. i think you saw live from the
last hour at 52nd street and in west philadelphia which got really dangerous. we have not had a draw back from that area because it got to dangerous. our team was among the crowd that got fired on and tear gas and rubber bullet and we had tear gas kacanister. normally on an evening like this where a lot of people out on the street c street. the area of western philadelphia where we were are secured. the police deploying in that
area. when we were there, this is an area where four cars set on fire including police vehicles and we are told by police that five police officers are injured. we were there at about 5:00 eastern times and dangerous and police did not have a preference there. they moved in quickly, tactical vehicle and a lot of police vehicle and police in riot gear and they started moving up and down the street firing tear gas and we got caught up. what kind of presence are the police going to have in that area of west philadelphia that got so dangerous and remains so dangerous at this hour. when darkness falls shortly, that's going to be a test of where the city is going to go. it is tense here and police are basically locking down this whole section of the city where so much and the fire that took place by the statue of frank
rizzo, just over here. that statue was the area. they have multiple stores looted and many places where we came upon fire and there is a bus stop there. this area, police are taking no chances here. >> i sure hope everybody is staying safe. brian todd in philadelphia. let's go live to the west coast where governor newsom has now declared a state of emergency for los angeles county. we know a couple of hours another curfew will take in effect there. do police expect people to
respect it tonight. what are they preparing for? >> reporter: curfew has already started. i am in the city of santa mon a monica. as of 4:00 local time, 7 minutes ago, the curfew began. this was called by the city of santa monica after large groups started taking over seesherba e the streets. you can see they filled up this street. this is three groups of protesters who have been peaceful. they have been protesting for several hours here in santa moni monica. what you have been seeing is this. there has been issues and problems but it is difficult to tell of what percentage o f the group is breaking away and trying to cause problems. there has been stores looted and issues. what you are seeing now, a tense
situation as police here are gatheri gathering. you can see the number of police officers, jordan, i am going to ask you to step down a little bit. you can see further down the police vehicles over there. what we are not clear on as we are watching police, officers move. >> we are going to step back a little bit. so protesters are throwing things at the police and now they are scattering. >> do you know what police are firing at protesters or firing towards the proestetesters ther? >> reporter: i can't tell ana. i can't quite tell. these tense situation occus occ
what we heard are these protesters counting down to when curfew begins. once curfew starts, they will start to arrest. you see them gathering again and sitting down. it only takes one or two people in the crowd to get angry and throw something at police. again, more water bottles and glass and one bit of context. you can see police officers there wearing helmets. rocks or glasses getting throne at police. >> get down. >> kyung and your photographer
safety is the most important. let us know. i know you don't know what it is and we are watching away from the area. there is a curfew in effect. it does not look like these people who turned out are planning to go anywhere kyung. >> certainly not. this is one group of three. there is a group near the pier and there is another group assembled elsewhere. it is so hard to show you these pictures of squirmishes and confrontations. it has been hours when we actually watched them marching the streets and sitting down and being peaceful. >> that's fireworks. try not to be too alarm as you are watching this. it is what we have seen the last
few days. it is really just these protesters trying to escalate it. when you get in confrontations with police, there is so much anger, it becomes a dangerous situation. it looks like to me that people are breaking away and choosing to loot. the great majority of the crowd just from the pictures we are seeing in the areal picture, they are moving in a uniform matter throughout the streets of santa monica. we want to bring you these pictures, we want to try to keep this into context. we should mention that the national guard is here.
>> reporter: the national guard is assembling at the convention center at downtown los angeles. they are not patrolling the streets. if you don't live in los angeles, i want to make clear that you are not going to see the national guard ruling up and down the streets of los angeles. they're staging. they're here in a supportive role and trying to keep the peace. i believe what we are watching other than these fireworks being thrown, what you are seeing the police do is just trying to get these protesters to disperse and move back.
sometimes police fire these neon marking ground or throwing something or instigate violence so they can investigate later who that person was. that gives us a sense of how they are going about this and see something of the marking of the clothing. again, these images in santa monica in california. there have been some fire crackers and fireworks also being deployed in the streets by
protesters and squirmishes have been coming and going all afternoon. a lot of these protests have been peaceful that we have been watching in many cities across the country. let me bring in retired fbi supervisor james galiano, what do you see happening here? >> i was around during 1992 and i have seen the last few years 2014 and 2015 i was still with the fbi. i thought that at least in minneapolis and other major cities where we would expect and anticipate things like this would happen after that tragedy last monday. i thought for certain that we would have been better prepared and what i mean by being better
prepared, we have learned lessons from these things. you can't come out with a lightfoot print and figure out what we'll let a few agitators and ins gatigators and we don't want them to insight in these things. the vast majority of these folks out there exercising their constitutional rights and they're not part of the problem. the problem for the police is fairing out who those agitators are. if you can't see them and remove them, they matastasize. this is not helping situation because the rest of the country and the world is watching this
horri horrified. it is not going to solve my problems. we have one police officer in oakland two nights ago lost his life. this is difficult. we don't have the number because there are about 1.2 million officers in the country. a country of 327 million people. all the perfect thing are coming together to coalesce between, it is hot and it is springtime and people are out of work and the economy is down. it is not going to get better before it gets worse i am afraid. >> can you tell us more about what the police officers are firing at protesters? >> reporter: sure, maintaining
dialogue with people and quiet things down. they use lethal force. yes, people can die. if you get hit in the right place with one of those. that's not what it is designed to do. tear gas is being used to help gather the crowd or help move them from particular places. the last thing a police officer wants to do in one of these squirmish line is having to shoot somebody. they're not going to do that unless it is affecting their own life or someone else's. when people in the crowd are throwing fireworks and things, police don't know what it is or whether or not it is harmless or not. they don't know that. they're trying to keep protesters back and the ones that are looking to advance and again it is the way of law
enforcement, non-compliance telling us there is something wrong. if police say move back, disperse, go home and people don't do that. they don't police the curfew, they don't respect these lawful commands, what is law enforcement supposed to do. i am asking you that as a rhetorical question. they got to make people follow guidelines and got to be able to do that. we can't have another night like we had last night, the night before and the night before that. >> do you anticipate that the officers will try to weigh it out? we know there is a curfew in this area, what are their options? >> reporter: and i know we are watching on monday of the release of that video, horrific video of george's killer.
i understand people being in flamed and angry. right now they're putting innocent people into harm's way and they're taking their anger out on police officers that were not involved in that. here is the situation. there are bad people in every profession. i understand that law enforcement is armed to the state, it is different. i get that. it is you are now attacking and threatening police officers who are just there to protect your right to protest. that's the hardest part of this. i will leave you with this incredible statistic. every year in this country, police officers had 250 million interactions with private citizens. every year police officers kill a thousand people, 99.9% of those fatal shootings are justified. the handful of them, the five or
six or seven of them questionable that requires scrutiny and justice. the folks that are doing this, the folks that are fire bombing buildings and tossing glass and beating up officers and pulling them out of vehicles, the people who are doing this are going to get people killed. it is not what we want here. i understand wanting justice, i don't understand exacerbating this and making it worse than it has to be. >> i hear what you are saying, james gagliano. the rouot of the pain has to do with injustice and the system. we saw what happened to george floyd and countless of others who have been victims of police
brutality and the system that's not equal. what kind of reform fix? how do police gain trust? >> reporter: ana, that's just an incredibly complex question. it is a fair question. it is exceedingly complex and difficult. i will say this. you know that i am not -- i call stuff what it is. the entire criminal justice system requires reform. i have been saying it for a long time. congress has been combat libatt for a long time. it requires reform. now, i never been a black person, i don't know what it is like to walk in an african-american male's shoes. i do not. i have plenty that calls me dad that i coached tat boys and
girls' club for years and years. i can speak to this. in the criminal justice system that i served in for 25 years. it was not skewed racially. it was skewed against the poor. the poor just do not have the same resources that people with wealth and means have. that's not a cop out. that's not to suggest that what happened on monday and what happened other times are not chilling and do not demand justice. one of the other problems i sense in all this is the fact that we aggregate cases that have nothing to do with each other. the michael brown cases had nothing to do with george floyd. george floyd, i believe there is going to be a murder conviction in that case. michael brown, eric holder was not killed unjustifiable by police officers. we speak in hashtags and we look
at these names. yes, there are bad cops and yes, we have police officers and law enforcement and professionals have to do a better job of calling out our own. training needs to be better. all those things that occur. look at what we ask police to do. look at those scenes right now on cnn that we are watching. what will we are asking are under men and under resource police department to do. they got to be social workers and on the job psychologists and got to be safety officers and communication experts and they got to run towards the sound of gunfires when it happens everyone else goes the other way. >> standby. i want to go back live to kyung right now. what's happening on the ground? >> reporter: this group, this particular group would fall back
as we are seeing police are putting out smoke bombs and disperse this crowd. the crowd would come back with signs or construction equipment or looks like plywood and almost created a barrier wiand you wil see black lives matter on the boards. earlier we heard them chanting "george floyd." we can hear sirens of more police officers coming this way. now it is a little difficult because of all the smoke that we are seeing. i was going to point out that from my vantage point, i can see a second protest, just a block
away. there is a lot of back and forth between police and protesters. >> there are as much uncertainty right there and i know you guys are trying to keep yourself safe at the scene. >> patrol cars and bicycles patrolling the streets right now suited up in riot gears. this is the place where parents bring their kids to ride the ferris wheel and a block away from the ocean is filled with families walking up and down the boardwa boardwalk. it is hard to comprehend this is happening anywhere in the streets of america.
and in such a story of beach community is known for leisure and tourism and families and people playing on a ferris wheel. you are asking earlier abou about -- you see that man limping away. the police are firing and i can see the remanence of it. they look like little black rubber bullets. that's what they are firing from from the guns they are holding up. it does not seem to be breaking up this crowd at all. some of the exterior crowd is backup but they're up above that. you can see the balcony is packed with people. they all moved up there. looks like they move down the street and does not look like many of them have left the area.
i want to say and i want a fair reminding. it is 4:30. 30 minutes ago the curfew started and so all of the people you are looking at are potentially subject to arrest. they know that and they were counting down to 4:00 pacific time and it almost seems to embolden them that they wanted to make a point that this was a protest and they did not want to leave. they wanted to send a message. this is not minneapolis, right? this is the beach community of california. for these protesters here, this is very much as well about black lives and the indignities that people suffer here in the united
states. >> we'll take a quick break. we see protesters and police continuing to have a standoff in santa monica right now and police firing something at protesters who had been sending projectiles in the other direction right now. looks like protesters are continuing to stay away from each other. this is a community that's hurting right now. a community that's under cure few right now, too. it is unclear of where this goes from here. a quick break. we'll continue to follow this scene and many others across the country. we'll check in with some of our other reporters on the ground in other cities when we come back. stay with us, you are watching cnn. at carvana, no matter what car you buy from us,
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gagliano. a lot of protests today have been peaceful but as nightfal night falls, that's the big concern. we have seen so many destruction around the last few nights. what should be the strategy going forward. if you are to lead one of these agencies right now, how do you de-escalate and not escalate? >> well, there are a number of things. you work in your communications with community leaders and faith leaders. you got to be connected to people that are angry and protesting but they are doing it the right way. that's the vast majority. you got to be prepared for the worse and i am sorry, folks that are going to act out. there will be more of that tonight. there is no denying that. do not sense that there is going to be more of this and a number of american cities will be
putting your head in the sand. my first priority here is to protect people and property and people means innocent by standers and protesters out there looking for their voice to be heard. i want to discourage criminal y criminality. how do i do that? presence. a large presence is probably the best deterrent. there are about 1.2 million police officers in the country and the country is 327 million people and many of these municipalities, they are out numbered. i know that the president is requested this and a number of state governors have called up guards. that's a good thing but the bottom line is we don't want to
create a situation either where we had the national guard having to get into physical confrontation with protesters and with rioters. we don't want that. we got to maintain orders here. it is going to be tough. the last couple of nights, the vast majority of the folks that are not respecting the curfew are looking to engage with police. they're looking to you know cause havoc and chaos and may m mayhem. >> some of them are. i am looking at images of the scenes right now. they're not necessarily engaging with police. we see protesters there and with signs, "end the hate." let me go to kyung right now. have you had a chance to speak to people who showed up today and to protest and what is their purpose and what do they want to communicate by being there?
>> reporter: in all honesty, i have not been able to go up to this particular group because in order to do that, i have to basically step in between these protesters and the police, that's something that we are going to do but roigt now we simply can't do it. w the police just put on their gas masks so that seems like they are forming something. >> standby for me, what do you think they are planning to do while putting on this gas mask.
>> hello. separate their number from the crowd. they are keeping the crowd back. that open space in between is very important. now the curfew is in place and they are going to try to move this crowd now. they're fwoing to ugoing to use and toss them into the crowd and that pushes the crowd back. >> the tactic that we push the crowd in the certain direction. they want to keep their way from shops and places that could get burnt. >> what do you think that is? is that tear gas? >> well, they can use a number of things. they can use smoke. the most effective is tear gas and chances are, that's where it is. people can't stay there. they have to move away from
that. >> we know in this area, santa monica is apart of los angeles. how does that coordination work? >> reporter: well, it works through a system that's set up by private homeland security and there is a process that brings in federal authority to assist so right now the commander of the national law enforcement will be working for the mayor of los angeles and work with the police chief and putting strategies together to calm the violence. it is a sophisticated process that everybody is praying and it was used during the marathon. it is standard behavior.
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i can see the they are starting to move in and enforcing this curfew. looks like they're asking us to go back a bit. what you are seeing to the right if we can get up here, over there to the right all the way down, that's the crowd. sorry, we are trying to listen to the police and comply with their orders, right here jordan. >> are we okay here? >> reporter: so we are being ordered to leave here. we got to figure out a place to move. >> okay, kyung, we'll let you go so you can do that. >> reporter: hold on.
we are behind the police line right now, sorry ana, we are trying to figure out where to stand. what you see here is the police line and right about a block away, that's where the protesters are. you can't see it from the back here but you can see law enforcement has the plastic wristbands and they are now positioning to move in and start enforcing the curfew. the difficulty here will be, this is a very determined crowd and for a few hours they have been extremely peaceful but what we have seen are these squirmishes where they are throwing glass and water bottles and we have seen fire croackers
and a little difficult to tell on the timing. i want to point out of what you are seeing those fires. these are some of the rubber bullets that they are firi plas this is what they are deploying on that crowd that is still not moving. they're using rubber bullets and tear gas and all we are seeing is a slight movement back. this is a crowd that's not dispersing. there was another protest when we first arrive.
i want you to listen here. you are looking at the perspective of law enforcement as they are trying to break up this crowd. if you are wondering where the escalation is coming from, that's part of the reason. an officer last night was injured, his skull was fractured according to the police department. flying projectiles are a big risk here for law enforcement. looks like at this point they're going to start moving in on
them. >> okay, kyung, we'll break away from you now in california. thank you kyung for your reporting. joining us live as we head to los angeles, the mayor garcetti. i can't imagine how tense things are for you right now and los angeles county are getting ready for a cure few tonight. how will you be enforcing that curfew? people are not respecting the curfew there in santa monicmoni. >> we have to take protective measures even in the midst of our pain fcrying out for justic for george floyd. please, use your discretion and go early, go home, stay home and
help us make sure that those who want to change this conversation from being about racial justice to be about burning things and looting things, don't win the day. if we let them win the day, they change the confrontation and take us away from the hard work and common ground that we have found from good police officers and everyday citizens and people who have too long said enough is enough and we are sicken by what but racism live when is we divide ourselves. we have to show our restraint. i'm proud here in the city, we have been able to use things that show that restraint and also have accountability for if anybody believes we haven't. we have top both if we're going to have a criminal justice system that protects and serves. we don't have justice if we don't have peace on the streelts. >> what are are your biggest concerns as you head into the evening hours? because we have seen protests from okay listened to santa monica.
we know in some cases it has turned violent as was just reporting there there was concrete or rocks or projectiles that injured officers in the past couple days. how are they doing and where are you most concerned? >> so i don't have a specific neighborhood because people can be mobile, but we have here in downtown los angeles where we have been sweeping up and boarding up and trying to help businesses that this weekend should have been reopening, trying to get back on their feet to protect those with both our law enforcement partners and the national guard that are here. but i would say there's three kinds of groups. protesters should never be classified as looters. but secondly, in between that, there are folks who kind of seem to be itches for a fight, who aren't stealing anything, aren't committing crimes, but my advice would be if law enforcement asks you to move on, for your safety and the safety of others torks it. these are such volatile situations. my heart aches if your heart aches. if you're feeling upset, so are
we. but we have to make sure that people don't die, whether it's the police officer who had his skull fractured lst night because of projectiles or when someone lights a police car on fire and it can kill innocent people. this cannot stand. we have to get back to the urgent work of building justice, not burning a city down. >> your father became los angeles district attorney as that city was recovering from the rodney king beating and riots. are there any lessons to be learned? >> absolutely. i remember when my dad had never run for office. after the unrest in 1992, he was out there with a broom starting to clean up after some of the worst days. what we learn from that is we have to actually start to listen to each other. law enforcement has to hear the pain of african-american men and
communities of color that while strides have been made still too often, we see black men and women that have been killed because they were sleeping, they were jogging, they were wearing a hoody, that has to be your fight too. if you wear a badge. but secondly, we have to humanize who the people behind the badge are are too. if we want good guardians, we have to not just look at them, yell at them, say they are all terrible people when we know they are mentors and people who step in in domestic violence situations to save people. they are people who find rapists and do the work that we should demand be done fairly. but with our lessons were from 1992 is we have to find common projects together. i do believe as soon as the piece is here, we can get back to that in cities across america. >> what's your message to members of your community who are clearly in pain right now? the protesters who are there for the right reasons. and how do you plan to help your community heal? >> i would say to anybody in pain, i'm in pain. for us to heal, we have to do the work that this moment
demands, that george floyd's death demands. let us not change that conversation. let us look at raising our min mum wage and how we covisit is killing black people more. let us fix those things together to make sure that the criminal justice system and our entire society doesn't keep some people at the 50 yard line and others at the 5 yard line. we can do this work. it's painful work. but it never happens with sly vooi lens in the face of violence. >> mayor, we appreciate your time this evening. best of luck a as you head into the evening. we are sending our best to you, to your whole community, wishing everybody peace. thank you so much. >> thank you. peace and love to you too. and here we are again in santa monica as we continue to watch the protests there. and police officers trying to disperse this crowd. there was a curfew that went
into effect almost an hour ago now there in santa monica, california. we have been seeing police standing by, firing different types of rubber bullets, gas of different types into crowds of protesters who have at times dispersed and then returned. now you can see there are additional things happening in different parts of the city there. again, watching the protesters, they have thrown projectiles towards police including concrete as well. so a at this point, it's unclear exactly where this scene goes. especially as we head into the sunsetting and evening hours. we know this is not far from the santa monica pier, a place where mostly families and everyday residents of that neighborhood are often times enjoying their day there. we'll continue to monitor the
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