tv The Lead With Jake Tapper CNN January 12, 2021 1:00pm-2:00pm PST
his twitter is shut down. facebook is shut down. he will be looking for alternative right-wing media platforms and will find the full force of the law coming after him. not just problems with sedition but the new york southern district. >> so much more. gentlemen, forgive me. i'm out of time. i want to hand it to jake. doug and harry, thank you. jack tapper and "the lead" starts right now. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with the politics lead in the final eight days of the trump presidency. today as he faces his second impeachment, he's claiming his remarks before a crowd of supporters were, quote, totally appropriate. they were, of course, not. the president spread election lies for months, essentially pouring gasoline on the nation. and then the morning of the attack, the president lit the match, inciting the mob, demonizing the congress and even his own vice president and directly encouraging the furious
crowd who would do anything for him to go down to the capitol and, quote, fight like hell. >> we're going to have to fight much harder. when you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules. we're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. so, let's walk down pennsylvania avenue. you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength, and you have to be strong. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. >> and then the crowd, the mob, they did just that. [ crowd noise ] >> president trump told the crowd to go down to the capitol to show, quote, strength to,
quote, fight like hell. and now five people are dead. a terrorist attack on the u.s. capitol, on the united states. lives lost. lives threatened, including his own vice president, and the president of the united states since then and today showing zero remorse. no regret for his role in inciting an insurrection. tomorrow, president trump is expected to be impeached again. this time, at least a handful of republicans are expected to join democrats. it would be a bipartisan rebuke, though, with no major effort by republican leaders or by maga media to calm people down, to tell the truth, to correct the lies, to stop the madness. the maga base remains incited. and the fbi is warning this could just be the beginning of the violence. thousands of armed pro-trump extremists are plotting to surround the u.s. capitol ahead of inauguration. one lawmaker who was briefed on the series of new threats tells cnn. now there are metal detectors outside the house chamber for lawmakers and their aides to go through before going on to the floor of the house.
this comes after democratic members of congress tell me there have been multiple conversations among democrats about concerns they have about their colleagues, specifically freshmen republicans, quote, insistent on bringing firearms in violation of law and guidelines, one democrat tells me. normally members of congress and their guests have been able to bypass metal detectors going into the house or on to the floor of the house. after the terrorist attack on the capitol, there are now le t legitimate concerns that democrats have about members of congress and their guests and the threats they might pose. i don't know who they're going to bring to the inauguration who can bypass the metal detectors until there's an investigation and until we understand our colleagues' level of complicity, we don't know how involved they really were. until we have answers, i don't
think we should trust them. first democrat said this afternoon in the recent security briefing that they had with capitol police they were reminded bulletproof vests are, quote, reimbursable expenses. president trump briefly mentioned the deadly riots on capitol hill. of course, he complained about unfairness to him, his impending impeachment and then launched into a speech about the border wall. kaitlan collins joins me now. kaitlan, president trump had a chance to tone down his rhetoric this afternoon. not surprisingly, he did not take it. >> reporter: he started out with the threats to his own power and the talk, of course, of invoking the 25th amendment, something we've been reporting on, about conversations with the vice president, with the cabinet, whether or not those are real or likely, and the president appears to be listening as well. >> free speech is under assault like never before. the 25th amendment is of zero
risk to me, but will come back to huaunt joe biden and the bidn administration. as the expression goes, be careful what you wish for. >> reporter: that appeared to be a veiled threat, saying that the 25th amendment could be used against joe biden when the question of whether or not it would be used against the president. we report right now that seems very unlakely. there's a very real threat to the president's power. that's impeachment, and whether he will be the second president to ever be impeached, something that could happen as soon as tomorrow. without an ounce of regret, president trump took no responsibility for inciting a violent mob of his supporters who breached the capitol, attacked police officers and threatened to kill the vice president. >> it's been analyzed and people thought that what i said was totally appropriate. >> reporter: as he left the white house today, trump denounced violence, but insisted he didn't instigate it. >> they've analyzed my speech and my words, and my final
paragraph, my final sentence, and everybody to the t thought it was totally appropriate. >> we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. we're going to the capitol. we're going to try and give our republican republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. we're going to try to give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. >> reporter: the president portrayed himself as a victim of a new effort by democrats to impeach him a second time. >> it's really a continuation of the greatest witch hunt in the history of politics. it's ridiculous. it's absolutely ridiculous. this impeachment is causing tremendous anger. >> reporter: senate minority leader chuck schumer responded by saying trump shouldn't be in office for another day. >> what trump did today, blaming others for what he caused, is a
pathological technique used by the worst of dictators. >> reporter: after he landed in texas, trump delivered scripted remarks on the attack. >> respect law enforcement and the great people within law enforcement. so many are here. is the foundation of the maga agenda. >> reporter: unlike democrats wanted, it became less likely that vice president pence would galvanize the cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment and remove trump from power after he finally spoke to trump for the first time since wednesday. trump and pence pledged to serve the remainder of their term as one member of trump's cabinet didn't rule out conversations about the 25th amendment. >> the rhetoric last week was unacceptable. i'm not going to get into or discuss the 25th amendment here. i'm committed. i've wrestled with this. i'm committed to see this through, and my role as health secretary during a pandemic.
>> reporter: notably there, not standing up for the president, but another note, it's been less than a week since senator lindsey graham got on the senate floor, gave that impassioned speech talking about how the president had a hell of a journey together but it's time to count him out because, quote, enough is enough. lindsey graham was seen flying on air force one with the president today ahead of hours of what could be the first president to be impeached twice. >> thank you very much, kaitlan collins. appreciate it. outlining significant seditsedit sedition and conspiracy charges, quote, just the tip of the iceberg. pipe bombs left outside the republican national committee and democratic national committee headquarters were real and had timers. an fbi office in norfolk, virginia, issued a warning about, quote, war looming at the capitol before last week's attack. as shimon prokupecz reports,
this is raising alarms about their readiness to stop another attack. >> reporter: chilling new details are emerging about what federal investigators fear are more plots to overthrow the government all across the country. >> they are talking about 4,000 armed patriots to surround the capitol and prevent any democrat from going in, and they've published rules of engagement, meaning when you shoot and when you don't. so, this is an organized group that has a plan. >> reporter: the threats come as there are a lot of questions over an intelligence failure leading up to wednesday's attack on the capitol. "the washington post" now reporting a day before the january 6th insurrection, a virginia fbi field office issued a dire warning. extremists were going to washington for violence and war. this directly contradicts the fbi claim that there was no intelligence indicating threats of violence. federal investigators now speaking publicly for the first
time. >> the fbi receives enormous amounts of information in intelligence. our job is to determine the credibility and viability of it. i want to stress that the fbi has a long memory and a broad reach. >> reporter: despite the dire warning, no preparations were made. and now there is a nationwide manhunt for 150 suspects, as lawmakers call for some of the perpetrators to be added to the no-fly list. >> the people, the insurrectionists who breached the u.s. capitol fall under the definition of threats to the homeland and should be immediately added to the tsa no-fly list. >> reporter: with the inauguration on track for next week, the fbi is warning of threats of violence and mayhem on a massive scale in a memo obtained by cnn. quote, armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols and at the u.s. capitol. the bulletin warns of a potential uprising if the president is removed from office
prior to january 20th, inauguration day. even if trump is allowed to finish his term, the bulletin warns, quote, an identified group planning to storm government offices in the district of columbia and in every state regardless. >> we are in the midst of an ongoing series of crimes and an ongoing threat to the united states capitol, to our institutions, to communities all around the united states. >> reporter: jake, there is real concern across the country that because of the success of this attack on the capitol, others have been emboldened by it and will act. one official telling us that the chatter is off the charts. as we heard from the acting u.s. attorney there, saying that what they so far have uncovered will be shocking to many people. >> president trump and the republicans in congress who support him could hold a press conference and tell them not to do that. of course, they haven't done that. shimon prokupecz, thank you so
much. perhaps ten lawmakers will break ranks and vote to impeach president trump for a second time. republican leaders are not pressuring their members to fall in lines. liz cheney calling the decision about conscience. manu raju is on capitol hill for us. could lawmakers like liz cheney vote to impeach president trump? >> reporter: potentially. liz cheney has not said how she will come down. she considers this a vote of conscience. she is one of the few who have spoken out by the efforts by trump to overturn the election. interesting to see how she will come down. mccarthy will side with trump, saying impeachment is not the way to go right now. other republicans are considering breaking ranks. this is much different in 2019 in which no republicans broke ranks, they sided with the republican leadership, who were pressuring members to fall in line. they are not doing so here. when the trial comes ultimately, it will be up to 17 senators
there to decide whether or not to convict this president. just moments ago, senator rob portman of ohio put out a statement, saying the president bears some responsibility for what happened in the capitol last week, calling on the president to address the nation. but will he vote to convict the president? still a question in the days ahead. >> address the nation? what good could that possibly do? manu r a. ju, thank you. appreciate it. the federal government is changing the guidelines for who can get the covid vaccine right now. pay attention, baby boomers. stay with us. and at fidelity, you'll get planning and advice to help you prepare for the future, without sacrificing what's most important to you today. because with fidelity, you can feel confident that the only direction you're moving is forward.
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attorney general is looking at charging trump and other speakers at last wednesday's rally for inciting the violence. how is the investigation coming? what charges are you currently looking at? and who are you investigate iin? >> sure. let me break it down for you. first of all, i think assistant u.s. attorney sherwin did a great job in talking about the federal counts he is looking at, sedition and the like. at the office of attorney general, we're focused on weapons offenses, ammunition offenses, disorderly conduct, curfew violations and incitement of violence. that last charge, incitement of violence has gotten a lot of attention. in that regard, words do matter and individuals who are found to have incited violence, encouraged people to go on to the capitol and to cause havoc would, in the strict definition,
be a lie. >> president trump said today that everything he said was perfectly appropriate. >> that's no surprise that president trump would exculpate himself. at the very least, his comments were absolutely reckless, totally unpresidential, and certainly didn't help matters. whether they rise to the level of incitement, we're going to look at all of our law books and the facts, including the recording of president trump's comments and the comments of others, including don jr., rudy giuliani, and congressman brooks. all of their comments were inflammatory and at least merit a full investigation. >> what is the difference between inflammatory, which is a judgment call, and incitement, which is a legal standard? what does one have to do when donald trump jr. says we're
going to go after you, and we're going to have fun doing it? obviously he's going to argue in court or not in court, i meant that politically we're going to go after you. mo brooks, who said it's time for patriots to take some names and kick some ass or something like that, he's going to say, i didn't mean it literally. what's the difference? how do you build a case? >> you know, i think those are really hard questions, and it's a really focused case-by-case analysis, focused on the timing of the remarks. exactly what else was being said by the speakers and the crowd. how close the crowd was to the capitol. what exactly was the direction and instruction? what did the crowd itself think they were being urged to do? all of those facts will be relevant. and, to be sure, these are close calls. one doesn't bring a criminal case lightly. i can guarantee you we'll be responsible in evaluating the evidence. we'll bring a case if we think we can make the case.
we won't if we think the speech was protected. >> is it relevant to your case that one of the president's most fervent defenders, attorney general bill barr, said about his former boss, quote, orchestrating a mob to pressure congress is inexcusable. could that be relevant to your case? >> well, i think that general barr's characterization and framing of the president's comments and behavior is exactly right. i don't think, in fact, in evidence general barr's opinion is evidence that will be admissible. and so it's helpful but, no, it's not evidence. what we'll look at is the evidence of the case. i do want you to know, jake, we brought 20 such incitement cases in the past. that's a new law relatively brought into effect in 2011. so our prosecutors know exactly how to make these fine distinctions, and that's what
they're doing right now. they're going through all of those cases, all reported cases in all jurisdictions with similar laws so we can make the right decision. >> just to remind our viewers, we heard in the previous segment, we heard president trump and his inflammatory language, as you describe it. here are some of the other individuals you just mentioned. >> stand up and fight! stand up and hold your representatives accountable! >> let's have trial by combat. >> today is important in another way. today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> you've already said that you're investigating those three individuals as well for possible incitement. another big picture question, have you discovered any evidence that this was a planned attack? it seemed like some of these individuals came ready for combat. and, if so, whether or not they
had any conversations with anybody in the president's circle either on the trump campaign or in the trump white house. >> that latter point, whether there was a collaboration, collusion, conversation, that's a matter for deep and intense investigation. and i can't comment on that. but you did make an excellent point when you focused in on the crowd. jake, you know, and we knew even before the events at capitol hill that what we were talking about are not just normal trump voters. we're talking about known hate groups, known white supremacists, violent extremists. when they get together, they don't get together for tea. they get together to cause harm. and i think that becomes relevant as to what the speakers were telling those types of individuals. you saw them. trained, practiced, bruising mob. that becomes relevant to our
analysis. >> attorney general for the district of columbia, karl racine. thank you very much. hope to have you back on to keep us updated on the status of this investigation into the horrific attack on this country. thanks again. >> thank you. republicans still on the trump train being thrown off the gravy train. will u.s. corporations cutting them off finally get the point across? stay with us. ancestry, with documents, with photographs, i get to define myself through the scores of people who lead to me. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com bring your family history to life like never before. >> man: what's my my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust.
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>> reporter: cut off after more than 25,000 tweets, shut down on facebook. the plug pulled on parler. the president's bully pulpit is shrinking fast and he's furious. >> i think big tech is doing a horrible thing for our country and to our country. >> reporter: but the violent attack on congress is bringing more than just a muzzle. trump's business empire is taking real financial hits. >> markets matter and market pressure matters. this is a market pressure campaign. >> reporter: the pga has broken off from the golfer in chief, pulling a major championship tournament from one of his clubs next year. two huge banking partners that have handled hundreds of millions in loans for trump and his family businesses are also severing ties. one of them calling for his resignation and adding in a statement, signature bank pledges it will not do business in the future with any members of congress who voted to disregard the electoral college.
other companies are also pledging to stop donations to lawmakers who attended the rally before the insurrection and supported trump's election fraud charade. asking for the return of previous donations. recent actions of josh hawley and roger marshall do not reflect our company's values. it is a serious warning to the president's allyies and encouraging to his critics. >> the political marketplace is working out there with organizations, companies, individuals saying we're simply not giving any more contributions to those who held up the election or tried to hold up, or overturn the election. >> reporter: people everywhere says money talks. here in d.c. sometimes it positively shouts. there is a roar from some moneyed interest telling republicans it may be time for a
withdraw. jake? >> i never saw hall marc pissed off before. tom foreman, thank you very much. mike rogers joins me. mr. chairman, always good to see you. two-thirds of your party in the house voted to undermine the election, based on these lies that led to the terrorist attack. and they did so after the attack. are you embarrassed to be a republican today at all? >> well, i'm certainly embarrassed by those actions. i see a lot more self interest than public interest going on, a lot more self service than public service going on. and i think we've got to shake ourselves out of it. listen, i think the spell was broken when donald trump helped. by the way, he told the leader of the house today, kevin mccarthy, apparently in a phone call it's being reported, that he did understand that he had some responsibility for this. well, you're damn right you had responsibility for this. this is important for people to take a collective deep breath here and see the future.
remember, the people who did this, jake, the three percenters, the proud boys, those are not republicans. they're extremist groups and we shouldn't get them confused. >> couple of things there, mccarthy says a lot of things that aren't true. he tells a lot of lies and trump, in front of the cameras, refused to take any responsibility. i see lots of house republicans -- again, this isn't you. i'm not holding you responsible. i see a lot of house republicans who spread these lies, who are now calling for unity and saying impeachment would be divisive. i'm not sure they're reading the room. there needs to be a reckoning here by house republicans. don't you think? >> well, i do. but, listen, i am not one of those -- my wife says it's a genetic defect that i'm an eternal optimist. if you look at the politics around the country, lots of republicans rejected trump and still voted for republican policies. we had more women and minorities elected. in seats he lost, republicans
won. i think there's the makings of that reckoning that's coming back. i think -- again, for the people who work for a living, outside of washington, d.c., that spell got broken when the president contributed to violence at the capitol and tried to overturn an election. just because we don't like an election is exactly why this is the greatest democracy in the world. that's not why you march the capitol and break windows. you actually prepare yourselves for another election, to try to get your views and policies back in good stead. i think we are going to move through this. i do say this, jake -- and i apologize but when president-elect biden came out and said i don't know if congress should do this, i agreed with him at that time. i thought, you know what? that's probably right. give this guy a chance to try to put things back together. i would do the censure. i would absolutely do that. i would be as tough on criminal charges on the people who actually committed these crimes. i think we have to say is this the right thing for the future
of the country? >> so, congressman, congressman tom massey, republican of kentucky told "the dispatch," quote, people misled the folks that came here. trump is at fault here. i watched almost all of his speech. i felt it was inevitable. i told my wife it was like a 50-pound feed sack. i heard the first few stitches pop and the next thing that happens is all the stitches pop and the feed is on the ground. fine. massie was among those sharing the election lies. don't house republicans and senate republicans and maga media, people who lied to trump supporters, don't they need to own up to what they did? that's part of the problem. >> well, absolutely, i do. again, that's why i've said, that smacks of self service, not public service. sometimes leadership is doing things when it's hardest. it's not leadership when it's easy. it's leadership because it's hard to do. you have to go home and say,
listen, we lost. the president of the united states lost. and here is what we can do to regain our footing and move forward. they didn't want to do that. they didn't want to have hard conversations. yes, i get it, there are extremist groups out there who are preaching violence. those aren't republicans. these are folks who are anarchists, they're white nationalists. those are the groups we should stay as far away from, all of us as a country. that's one thing we should unite around. >> sure. >> these folks are not welcome in our political structure. if you're going to carry a gun and break a window, you're not welcome here. >> they may not be republicans, but they sure do love donald trump and he sure has played footsie with them for years now. chairman rogers, thank you for your time and your integrity, as always. president trump just weighed in on becoming possibly the first president in history to be impeached the second time. what he said next.
committed impeachable offenses and mcconnell said he is glad that democrats are moving to impeach president trump because he feels it will be easier to purge president trump from the republican party. abby, your reaction to this news? i'm not sure exactly what mcconnell means. why would this make it easier to purge president trump from the party, unless the senate is going to vote to convict him? >> that's a good question. whether the senate votes to convict president trump is a completely different question as to whether or not mcconnell supports moving forward with impeachment proceedings, but if you look at this from mitch mcconnell's perspective, republicans a week ago today lost two senate seats that could have been winnable because of president trump's antics and his lies. and mitch mcconnell has been, obviously, frustrated with that. now i think it's clear mitch mcconnell could have, earlier in
this process, shut down all of this ridiculous talk about fraud and did not. at the same time, where he's standing right now, he is looking at a senate majority that is gone and looking at the prospects of republicans retaking power. and he sees president trump standing in the way of that. and i can't say that he's wrong. >> gloria, your reaction? >> well, my reaction is that mitch mcconnell, having lost the senate and having seen what happened in the capitol the other day, and having seen how the president failed to react, did not even react to protect mike pence, is furious at this president and wants to get beyond him. i was talking to a republican even before this happened who said nobody is going to be happier to see donald trump go than mitch mcconnell. he has done his bidding, but they are nothing alike. and i think mcconnell has just about had it. and i think he's kind of -- if he were to be more honest about it, he's a lot more like liz cheney than leader mccarthy
here. and so i don't know. i spoke with somebody in a leading democrat's office in the senate before i came on the air, who said he didn't have any high expectation that mcconnell was going to bring anything to the floor for conviction on impeachment, but now this puts a little daylight into that question. and you sort of think, well, could he really bring it to the floor? could he decide to bring it to the floor? because he can. and now i'm thinking, well, maybe he might. >> abby, we have the former attorney general for president trump, bill barr, who i think we can agree was pretty loyal to president trump. he did like 98% of what trump wanted him to do. he has accused president trump publicly of organizing a mob to pressure congress, which is the very least of what i think we all saw trump do. but i have to say, i just generally don't believe that 18 senate republicans are going to
be willing to vote to convict president trump. i just think that they are that far gone, and you'll get romney, maybe you'll get sasse. but after that, i don't know. >> yeah, and i tend to agree with you, jake. i don't see an avalanche of republican senators, enough to convict president trump speaking out about this. if they were going to speak out, they would have spoken out by now. and on top of that, i do think that with mitch mcconnell, watching him, talking to people close to him, and his aides over the years, he is very careful to kind of just walk a very fine line, especially with president trump. he may allow this to go forward but i don't know that he's going to be whipping votes for an impeachment. i don't know that he is going to be encouraging his members to vote for this. also in the "new york times" report, they reported that mcconnell and biden had a conversation about whether it could be possible to move forward with nominees and also move forward with an
impeachment, and mcconnell kind of it critical conditioned it to the parliamentarian. i don't think he is bending over backwards to make this happen. but sure, maybe in his private, inner views, he certainly thinks that what president trump did was impeachable, because he basically said so on the day that this happened. he was very clear that he felt what his republican colleagues were doing was completely beyond the constitution and wrong, and he said as much last week. >> that's not even including the terrorist attack. >> exactly. >> gloria, that's where the senate is. in the house, they just put up metal detectors outside the chamber of the house, the floor that people see on c-span. they did that in the wake of house democrats talking about their fears of their republican colleagues. not all their republican colleagues, but, a, the group that is gun toting, like congresswoman bobert or however you pronounce her name and also the people that they are
legitimately worry wied were complicit, maybe even coordinating with the terrorists. that's where the house republican -- that's where the mood is in the house republican and democrat being caucus rit k aren't going to bring in terrorists to assassinate one of us or during inauguration somebody else. >> they're afraid for their own safety. imagine this, wolf -- wolf, sorry. jake. they're afraid for their own safety, sitting in a congressional chamber, wondering whether the person sitting next to them is going to dry a firearm on them. it's bad enough you saw republicans refusing to wear masks the other day. >> now three democrats have tested positive for covid. >> have been infected. this gives you a sense of the unease in that chamber and also
in the senate chamber, because people privately want to get beyond donald trump, but there are so many who are just afraid to stand up and do it. >> talk about a hostile work environment. i can't imagine having to go to work if my colleagues were literally trying to get me infected or literally possibly complicit in trying to get me killed. >> unbelievable. >> i can't even imagine it. that's the state of the house of representatives right now. gloria, abby, thanks. appreciate it. the trump administration making a big change to the vaccine rollout. what it means for you and your parents. stay with us. (burke) deep-sea driving, i see...
in our health lead, a major change to the covid vaccine rollout. the trump administration is now telling states to expand who can get vaccinated to include 65-year-olds and older, and others with pre-existing conditions. the administration is also releasing all available doses instead of keeping half on hold as nick watt now reports. >> reporter: after four weeks of faltering vaccine rollout, a new phase. >> the next phase has several components. first, we're expanding the groups getting vaccinated. >> reporter: everyone 65 and over can get one, and anyone under 65 with a co-morbidity. next? >> we are releasing the entire supply we have.
>> reporter: no more holding back second doses. team biden also planned to release them. next up? where vaccines will now be given. >> states should move on to pharmacies, community health centers and mass vaccination sites. >> reporter: plans already in place for citi field in new york, dodgers stadium in l.a. also time today for buck passing and trumpian praise for the federal distribution effort. >> which has now successfully delivered to over 14,000 locations essentially without a hitch. state restrictions on eligibility have obstructed speed and accessibility of administration. >> reporter: latest data, more than 27 million distributed, just over 9 million actually administered. the pace must pick up now. >> as we're seeing the post-holiday surge surge. >> reporter: prethanksgiving around average 1,000 people were
killed by covid every day in this country. that daily toll has now tripled. never been higher. the president hasn't uttered a word in public about covid since december 8th. the domestic terrorists who stormed the capitol are almost certainly spreading this virus and the mobilization of the national guard to stifle them. >> this will probably take away from some of the vaccine distribution issues in some of these states where the national guard was involved. >> reporter: the national guard is, right now, helping out with vaccines in 12 states from new hampshire to here in california, and that's something that the biden administration might look to expand upon. jake? >> nick, thanks so much. appreciate it. we have breaking news. first republican house member says he will back impeachment. more after this quick break.
breaking news. we now know the first house republican who will vote to impeach president trump tomorrow. he said, quote, it's a threat to the future of our democracy, unquote. no house republicans joined democrats to impeach president trump back in 2019. today in our series on education in the time of covid, we're looking at the strain virtual learning puts on families, especially on women, who are three times as likely as men to leave their jobs during this pandemic, to help their kids with their education. bianna golodryga now reports. >> let us rejoice and be glad in it. >> reporter: for brynnmar united methodist church, the virtual service began like most others. >> my name is pastor meredith
dodd. i'm happy to join you for worship. >> reporter: then the pastor of the church for more than two years made this announcement. >> this is my last sunday serving as pastor of bryn mawr. i'm taking family leave from pastoring to spend more time with my kids. >> reporter: for months, she tried to balance work and remote learning from her three children. each with special needs. until it just wasn't sustainable. >> for a while then i was trying to be available all day and do all the demands of ministry basically before 8:00 a.m. or after 10:00 p.m. it was starting to have a huge demand on my body and my mental health. >> reporter: she and her husband, mike, an engineer, spent hours crunching the numbers and doing a lot of soul searching. >> it was going to make economic sense, although it was still a struggle to decide, is this really the right thing for everyone? is this the right thing for the family? >> reporter: before ultimately
deciding she should step down from the pulpit. >> we just decided that the church could find another pastor in this moment but my kids could not find another mother. >> reporter: meredith is not alone. in addition to millions of u.s. women ages 25 to 44, losing their jobs in 2020, they are also three times more likely than men to leave the labor force because of child care demands during the pandemic. >> they're just disproportionately likely to hold the jobs we need to send people home from. caring jobs, in-person jobs and then the fact that all the kids got sent home. >> reporter: months without play dates and socializing have also taken a toll on families. >> it's had a huge psychological impact. it's heartbreaking as a parent to say there's nothing i can do to make this better. this is how it is right now. there's going to be a lot of adjustment. we have a vaccine, the kids are going back to school, but the kids have been kind of -- had a hard time in this particular
situation. >> reporter: returning to any form of normalcy for the dodd families means waiting for both the school to reopen and a vaccine. >> i can't make commitments professionally right now, which is also challenging. >> reporter: a challenge meredith says she intends to overcome. >> the call has not gone away. the job has for the moment. i fully anticipate returning. i love preaching. i love teaching. >> reporter: a stunning statistic for you, jake. of the 140,000 jobs lost in the u.s. in december, all of them were held by women, all of them. i want to read to you a quick note i received from pastor dodd. my great grandmother died in the 1918 flu epidemic. the trauma of that loss affected my family for generations but it didn't have to. ultimately, that's why i quit my job as a pastor. i do miss showing people god sees them, knows them and loves them but for now i'm showing my children that same thing. it will not end the pandemic for
th them, but it will help them heal when it's finally over. just one of the sacrifices millions of parents are making right now. >> bianna golodryga with another installment of educating during the time of covid. you can tweet the show @thelead. our coverage continues right now. i'll see you tomorrow for our special coverage of the house impeachment of president trump. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." we're following breaking news. federal prosecutort they call significant sedition and conspiracy charges in connection with the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol, following the range of criminal conduct, and i'm quoting now, unmatched. just a little while ago, they announced more than 170 criminal cases have been opened with hundreds more expected