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she said to me, you know, i don't have to tell you about how i'm living with my family and how set back we are by this because there was a tv show that was all about it in the 70s and it is the reality for too many people of color all over the country. and i said, what? and she said, i will give you a hint. but this was the end. ♪ just looking out of the window ♪ ♪ watching the asphalt grow ♪ ♪ thinking how it all looks hand me down ♪ >> how do you know the words to "good typimes". >> you know i'm black on the inside. she was a hugely educated and they were a portrait of being stuck in the chicago projects, drugs, unending poverty, the anger and outrage of being incapable of getting past
syssystem ic opression. >> j.j., the basketball player that never could get it off the ground. >> dymomite, it was a reality slap in the face. any time you meet a payment, any time you need a friend. >> any time you need up bringing. >> any time you are out from under, not getting hassled and hustled. >> making a way when you can. temporary lay-off. "good times". >> easy credit rip offs. >> good times. >> scratching and surviving. >> good times. >> hanging and jiving. >> good times. >> ain't we lucky we got em, and had the organ. >> and peopllive small, take solace in each other and i can't believe we are back there 50 years later. >> yeah.
>> well, 40 some years later. almost 50 years later. >> the 70s that song was. >> yeah, i wanted to watch -- >> tv show was the 70s. >> i have seen every episode like 20 times. i'm actually friends with the mom of, you know, janet jackson, the original mom. >> janet jackson was in that show. >> kim fields is a friend of mine, and her had mom was the original mother on the show. wilona was the adopted mother. we are getting way in the weeds here. but kim fields was t utti on fa facts of life. >> janet jackson did a great job on this. the heartbreaking nature of things are not going to get better for us. james was so angry because he could not get ahead. >> it true, there was frustration in the black community on that show, because
known ever got on and out. right? and that was a reality for many people in the country. but it was also in a time in the 70s where black people were getting a sense of autonomy and were upwardly mobile and that was not a reflection of that. so there was frustration with that. and guess what came along after that. >> the jefferson. ♪ moving on up ♪ >> and deluxe apartment. >> wilona wrote that song. and i think she sang it too. >> george jefferson was a brilliant actor that played the role. >> those were great actors. him and all of those actors were great. the -- florida, what was her name. who was florida evans on good times. >> she was a yale. >> she is very smart. i am having a senior moment right now, forgive me. >> a million people will tell us. what i'm saying is are we really
going back to that kind of reality? >> yes, we are. >> the chicago, good times -- >> and further. >> the chicago projects, i was covering that back in the day when i started this. they called it the killing fields in between those projects because you could not get out. the only way you got out for too many was in a box. >> yeah. well i covered -- >> it makes me worried about where we are and that's why the relief bill matters so. we have to get people out of the grip of poverty right now. >> beverly johnson just texted me. the model, first model of the -- >> what did she say about my singing? >> esther rolle, you are right. now we are going back. >> they tore it down. robert taylor holmes was still up. >> there's still parts, a park and all that. but let me tell you, i think we are going back further. i think we are going back with the voting restrictions, we are going back to jim crow is what is happening.
>> the laws, i have spent time reading this. first, i was like, they are not doing this. restricting early voting is crazy, republicans vote early more than departments do. these things are frightening. >> yep. >> because, you know, they are playing on ignorance and animus, here is a really wicked one and i will get out of your way. hey, why wouldn't you show an i.d.? everybody has i.d.? oh, yeah, who has an i.d., everyone who drives. how many people in big scities drive? >> you know who didn't have a driver's license for a long time in barbara walters. >> my daughter, bella, a lot of their friends the did not want to get one. she wanted to get it and you start going down the line. people are going to get in and get a government i.d. when so many people in positions of poverty want as little to do with the government. they can't get the time off. >> yeah. >> and it's becoming disenfranchising and they know it. it's wicked stuff. >> yeah, it is.
and ain't we lucky we got them. chris cuomo! >> oh, that is strong. is there anything you cannot do, d-lemon? >> yeah. ♪ just looking out of the window ♪ >> i love you, d-lemon. >> thank you for helping me today, i appreciate it. >> that's why i am here. i deliver. >> you certainly do. rain, sleet, snow or shine. chris delivered my mail to my office today. thank you, sir, have a great weekend >> i want love you. >> i love you too, this is cnn tonight, and here is on you are breaking news that we have been talk -- and here is our breaking news that we are talking about. joe manchin, threw a wrench in the works of the president's covid relief bill. a nine-of hour standstill over his objections. fellow democrats caught off guard really in a last minute compromise keeping the whole thing from blowing up. what? what? so much drama, didn't we think after the trump era like the drama, there's not going to be any drama. there's going to be acceptably
and welcomingly normal? we got anything but. it's a first big test for the democratic majority. with the biggest priorities on the line. no margin of error 50/50 split senate, everything is riding on covid relief and on voting rights. that as a gop just can't get past its own crazy. on the eve of march 6th. two months since trump supporting rioters stormed the united states capitol. i cannot get over that video. look at the guy kicking the door. i just can't get and breaking the windows. every time i see it, it's like the first time. them fighting police and hunting lawmakers in the halls. congressman lofgren has posted thousands of pages of media of the republicans promoting the big lie. here is congressman gosar, this is november 4th, the day after
election day. don't let them steal our vote. november 26th. this is a coup, january 3rd, three haddays before the riot. patriots, time is now, hold the line, and sedition and treason and stealing s ing votes is appropriate. now you know why they believe the big lie? because the republicans are promoting the big lie. those are just the highlights. or i should say low lights. there's more in the 2,000 pages and he is not the only one. so, let's move on and talk about congressman matt gates. right? this is on january 6th, i'm joining with the fighters in congress. interesting. congressman jim jordan. over 50 million americans think this election was stolen, he wrote. but about let's are remember why they thought that. right? because of the then president
and his enablers convinced them of the big lie, and then people like jim jordan and matt gates they just kept carrying it on. carrying the water. congress woman lauren bobert the day before the riot. remember the next 48 hours. okay. these are some of the most important days in american history, she writes. remember these 48 hours. the most important days in american history. they promised a big lie for months. the question is, will they be held accountable? and while americans are desperate to get vaccinated and the desperate for covid relief. here is what kevin mccarthy is doing right now. >> green eggs and ham by dr. seuss, i am sam, i am sam, sam i am. that's sam i am, that is sam i am, i do not like that sam i am. do you like green eggs and ham? i do not hike them, sam i am.
i do not like green eggs and ham. >> that really happened. that -- those are your republican leaders. he is the top republican in the house of representatives. the minority leader. and apparently has nothing better than to do than to read do dr. seuss and stoke the fake outrage. he
is reading it because he is like, it's cancel culture and blaming it on democrats and has had nothing to do with democrats. nothing at all. as a matter of fact that particular one, by dr. seuss is still in distribution. so is minone of it makes any se. they are playing you and are you
going to fall for it? he is trying to stoke the fake outrage machine. they are covering every angle. the biggest most important issue of our time is this. >> as you know, dr. seuss has been cancelled. >> i the do not like to cancel books. i do not like how that looks. >> person is ke rmit and the muppets. >> i do not like it anywhere. >> a 2017 tweet from kamala harris praised dr. seuss. >> i do not like it in the store, i do not want it anymore. >> let me quote barack obama saying pretty much all the stuff you need to know is in dr. seuss. >> this week alone, they cancelled mr. potato head. you know, this week alone, they cancelled the muppets. they are cancelling dr. seuss
from reading programs. >> hitler's mein kampf is on sale, but six dr. seuss books are pulled. >> here we are discussing dr. seuss and hitler in the same sentence. >> people may say, why, why are you covering the dr. seuss story this much? >> why, and why are you mentioning dr. seuss and hitler in the same sentence, you are doing it. i can't believe that we are -- because you are doing it. just, i just want to be clear. i know i say it a bunch of times. the dr. seuss thing has nothing to do with democrats at all. at all. dr. seuss company said, this is not -- they took them out of circulation, democrats had nothing to do with it. the president had nothing to with it. fox is stoking this stupid, i
guess you can call it conspiracy theory. it's a lie, let's call it a lie. nothing is being cancelled about dr. seuss at all. do you realize how you look? it's just embarrassing. i think we know exactly why they are covering dr. seuss so much, and
i have said it before, because it is gop, fake outrage machine. people are -- the economic downturn. dr. dr. seuss, do not get lost. they lost the white house and they are still disgraced, twice impeached, they don't care one bit about with dr. seuss. they don't care about dr. seuss
at all. they don't care about mr. potato head, at all. they don't care about neanderthal, it doesn't necessarily mean -- there's no nuance maerp, it means your thought is backwards. maybe he has a point. you i m-- i mean, you are promoting dr. seuss, maybe he has a point. meet the republicans. they are just counting on fake outrage to distract you while millions americans who cannot pay the rent, can't put food on the table and are desperate for covid relief. they have to come up with some sort of narrative about joe biden, because joe biden is ignoring them and getting his agenda done and doing his job. he is ignoring them and trying
to get relief to the american people. they have to create some sort of negative narrative about joe biden to make themselves look good and to make the former president, that is a tall order. that will take a lot of work and you can't do that much work in 20 years. while states all across the country tried to strip away voting rights, they are doing it at this time. >> while it's all going out. the fake outrage is continuing to go and go and go, and as millions and millions americans are looking for relief. the leaders are screwing up. remember texas governor, greg abbott said days ago that he is reopening businesses and ending the mask mandate. he wants it both ways. he is urging people to wear a mask. saying they know the right thing
th to do. really? greg abbott, i'm going to introduce you to the internet. right, a series of tubes where you can get information and videos. where you can see people who don't want to wear masks, who will causing trouble, and you can see thousands of them. happens all the time. you know why? because people like you say, there's no mask mandate in my state and they feel like, it's not a law, the governor is behind me, i don't have to wear a mask. stop it with the bs. because you are trying to distract -- you would not have to urge them if you kept the mask mandate. and then there's the dangerously mixed message from the democratic mayor of detroit. just yesterday, he turned down johnson & johnson's vaccine saying that it was not as good as the vaccines for pfizer, and
moderna. outrage in public health. the white house quickly, quick to say it was just amassive walt he is looking forward to getting j and j vaccines in detroit. the fact is, that johnson & johnson vaccine is just as effective. as the other two in preventing hospitalizations and deaths. whatever vaccine you can get, people, take it. okay? and trials for all three, nobody who got the vaccine died from covid and known is hospitalized. that's the thing. the message is clear, listen to the experts. get vaccinated as soon as you can. we are so close. let's not blow this. and hold those people accountable who are trying distract you with dr. seuss and
nea neanderthal, let's get real work done. some serious stuff. not the fake outrage, republican outrage machine. it's played, it's tired. you need a nap. it is the first big test though for democrats and they push president biden's covid relief bill across the finish line. we will see, while millions americans are desperate for help. >> at least seven million kids don't have enough food to eat on a regular basis, 13 million people are behind in their rent. and the rescue plan is absolutely essential for turning this around.
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president biden's covid relief bill can move forward after the democrats strike a deal with one of their own. senator joe manchin, holding up everything over jobless benefits. it gives a $300 weekly benefit and includes a cap on who is eligible to write off the benefits. the agreement shaves off a few weeks than what the departments were pushing for.
next up, the vote-a-rama where the senates can present as many amendments as they want. so let's discuss, democrat senate chris van holland jones m -- joins me. good to have you on. >> good to be here. >> the bill was in a stand still for nine hours. are you sure at this stage that you can pass this? >> yes, don, i'm absolutely confident that we will get it done. look, i was here at 2:30 a.m. last night. will stay through the night in to tomorrow and through the weekend if necessary. and we willpass the american rescue plan. it provides desperately needed assistance to the american people. we will deploy and distribute more vaccines provide economic help and a life line. we are going to get this done. >> did you personally talk with
senator manchin during the standoff, has he said anything about what his thinking is? >> not during this period of time. look, i preferred the version that came from the house. but this does extend unemployment benefits for another week in to early september. and for some people that were long-term unemployed last year in to this year, it will help more because they won't get hit with a surprise tax on the unemployment benefits they received last year. so, look. if you look at the bill in context, with the individual payments, with the historic child tax credit, with the continuing rental assistance and help to get kids back in schools but safely. it's hugely needed and by the way, the congressional budget office said if we do nothing that we will live with these much higher levels of unemployment until the year 2025, that is unacceptable and
that's why we are moving forward and getting it done. >> let me ask you this, how did this bill even come to the floor if the democrats did not know where their members stood on it? >> well, these bills have a large number of provisions. senator manchin had expressed concern about this provision ea was just a question of working it through, and we have done that. and so, we will have a vote within the next hour on that, and then, we expect possibly hundreds of republican amendments. and we will go through each of them. but at the end of the day, we will get this bill passed. >> you have been pushing the $15 minimum wage for years. you co-sponsored a bill in 2017 to hike it. today eight senate democrats voting no. are you going to try for the $15 or shoot for a lower number that would still be a hike? >> no, don, we are going to keep shooting for the $15 an hour.
look the current minimum wage, $7.25 an hour, a national disgrace. you can work full time 40 hours a week, and still be below the federal poverty level. we need to get to $15 an hour under the proposal, as you know, it was phased in over time, it did not get to $15 an hour until the year 2025. but we need to have a liveable wage in the country. and so we are going to keep fighting for that. >> listen, i had a fascinating conversation last night with brian fallon who talked to me about the filibuster and he his predictions and more democrats are calling for an end to the filibuster, manchin and sinema oppose that, given that there was a struggle to get 50 votes on the espedemocrats top priori let alone the 60, do you think you will scrap it? >> i think we need to get rid of it or radically reform it. right now, you have the united
states senate which is already skewed toward the minority. it's an undemocratic, small d, institution, right, two senators from every state. whether you are wyoming with fewer people than the district of columbia, or california, the filibuster adds more o anti-democratic tilt on top of that. there's risks in getting rid of the filibuster. my belief is that the risk is much fgreater that we cannot moe the country forward on issues. the hr-1 act, the for the people act. the john r lewis, and justice in policing act. we need to get it done. that means reforming the filibuster. and if republicans don't join us in passing those, and i am not under any illusions that it's likely, then i hope all of our colleagues in the democratic caucus will join us in reforming
it, at least put the burden on those who are trying to obstruct the process, at least make people come down and conduct a real filibuster rather than just threat you know o-- threaten on sidelines. >> try to have a good weekend, hope you get rest, i don't see it though. thanks a lot. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> you as well. they have no room for error, you just heard that. if there's this much drama over a bill that the country wants, what does sit sait say about th years ahead? we will talk about it. and saw what other people paid for the same truck he wants. ♪ now, he can recognize a great price. truecar was so easy, chet was in and out and got right on back to the life he loves.
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manchin is over. let's discuss this. hello, gentlemen. thanks for joining us. i see the fire over your left shoulder. you are not hiding. >> oh, yeah, back home in the hills. >> i'm going to start with ron because i'm jealous of your fire. ron, what is heck happened today? how is it that the white house and the senate lead ers didn't find out what senator manchin was going support sooner? how do they bring it to the floor and not know where their senator stood? >> welcome to life in the 50/50 senate. there's a lot of moving parts in the bill. i guess for me, the big picture is what we are seeing in terms of division is modest by historic standards. if you go back to bill clinton's economic recovery plan in 1993,
it only passed after having a screaming match that they were hurling f-bombs at each other. obama had to satisfy the last few moderate democrats, required him to cut the spending substantially and increase the tax cuts on his plan and the most relevant example of all is i don't know if mark remembers in 2001, in the 50/50 senate, two republican moderates forced george w. bush on to cut his tax cut by $400 billion. 25%. to get it through the senate. can you imagine what we would be talking about tonight if they had required a $500 billion reduction in this. i guess, against all of the yardsticks historically, the democrats to me are holding together pretty remarkably on this. >> what is it, mark, does the democratic party need joe manchin more than he needs them? >> i tell you what, listening to the news over the last couple of weeks you think that joe manchin is president.
i mean that guy is wielding so much power and influence, it's a good thing. he is a great representative and a smart guy. i think he is a deal cutter and a negotiator and the right guy to kind of have in the slot. now, you know, going back to kind of the issue you talked about earlier, don. what does it portend for the next four years? we have had tight politics, the democrats had big, big legislative items like hr1, election reform, which is critical. and they have to -- in my view, it ought to. i don't think that anybody will kill the filibusterer. >> very good point. ron, the senate majority leader, chuck schumer, criticized t
tactics. somebody in the conference, it was not a republican, well with, many people -- that's another thing. with something like this, would it happen under mcconnell. put aside mccain saving the obama care moment. >> i go back to the earlier examples. in 2001, it's a very relevant example. it's the moderates that forced the bush tax cut by 25%, it was jim jeffers from vermont. and the teacher of the year was from vermont, what did he do? he quit the republican caucus and became an independent. i do think that they are all voting for a $1.9 trillion stimulus is important and i
think they hold together on the next reconciliation bill. the real issue will be whether manchin and sinema and others are willing to do what you and mark were discussing. curtail or eliminate the filibuster. without that, the democrats are going to quickly run out of things that they can do, and you will see a lot of things fas house. particularly the hr1. >> tell me, is mitch mcconnell going to try to pick off moderate democrats on every bill? >> no question about it. i mean, the, and first of all, i don't recognize the democratic party they have been unified and disciplined which is extraordinary for the democrat party. >> you think the especially dids have been disciplined this time? >> i do. >> i do. >> i think that they are keeping
50 votes together, it's a remarkable feat. >> yeah, i think, look on the big bills, don, this is the kind of sausage making that is happening. whether it's obama in '09, bush in '01, in the senate. ultimately those are all victories for the president who pushed them. even though the compromises and the concessions they have to make on the day seem like amputating one of the limbs. in the end, it was a victory that was important to their presidency and i do think that it's a mixed signal here. i do think they are right. one or two democratic senators have such power is going to be frustrating dynamic for the liberals. they are sticking together, the test will come. are they willing to curtail the filibuster and without that, there will be lgbtq rights, gun
control, democracy reform. the list is going to get long of things that are quickly going to get done. >> i have to run. mark, can we take mark full so i can see the fire. man, that looks great, congratulations, brother, that is a real one. >> 10,000 feet. >> take care, i'm jealous of your los angeles weather as well, ron. >> yeah. >> thank you see you soon. >> kick it hard. >> another man arrested with storming the capitol, this one is a trump appointee who had top secret level security clearance and there's more, breaking news. the world around you may seem like an immovable, implacable place. it is not. it can be bright. quiet. and safe. it's a change that will be felt from this street. to this street. to no street. and everywhere in between. all it takes is the slightest push
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this man on the day of the attack, in jail while he waits for his court reporter procepro -- for his court proceedings. he is continued working at the state department until his resignation. i can't believe it. yes, i can. hi, thanks for joining me. yes, we can all believe it now. it's the first arrest of a trump official over the capitol insurrection. it is alarming to think that a state department appointee is allegedly storming the capitol, and attacking police. so how do investigators track down who he may have been connected with or conspireing with? >> well, don, fbi investigations
are gathering documents a that were subpoenaed, phone records are subpoenaed. and one thing they are good at, is cross referencing and making connections. i will say, what is troubling about it, this case, is the fact that this person had a top secret clearance, which means he had access to sensitive information and was in a position of public trust. one of the questions that the fbi asks when they vette people for the security clearance is loyalty to the united states. has the person engaged in rhetoric or actions that would show a desire to over throw the government of the united states. a yes answer to that will not get you a clearance. was he somebody that was rubber stamped by the white house as a political appointee for major clearance, despite red flags and are there other people that were radicalized that are in
positions of public trust as we have seen for example, with former law enforcement and military, had which is incredibly troubling and a national security issue. >> i want to talk about it more. the member of the far right nationalist proud boys was in communication with the person associated with the white house. in the days before the january 6th assault. the official briefed on the investigation, it's another connection between the white house and the far right organization, prominent at the capitol siege. will we find out who was talking to whom here? >> we will not find out until the fbi completes the investigation. we know that the proud boys and oath keepers are members who have some of the higher level charges that are, you know, conspiracies that are coordinated activity, and so, it's incredibly problematic,
because of their ideology, and because of the level of their activity, on january 6th, which goes beyond mere trespass or more nefarious actions. that is incredibly troubling. >> congressman swalwell suing trump, and giuliani and mo brooks for their role in inciting the riot at the capitol. does he have a case? >> i read the lawsuit, it's a kitchen sink civil suit. has a lot of claims. some more straight forward, negligence and some harder to prove like emotional distress. the key here, don, needs to make it pass the motion to dismiss on one of the counts and then you have discovery. discovery is far ranging. it can get all kinds of documents. the president and other defendants like rudy giuliani
can be deposed. witnesses can be deposed under oath. so it's a whole mine fieldfor the form er president and his associates. because you know, whatever the merits of the claims are, and even if the you outcome they ac. they can be liable for the things found in the process of discovery, if they lie under oath, for instance. suits like this may achieve what congress cannot they weress -- cannot in terms of finding out what happened on january 6th. >> an arizona lawmaker saying that masks are not needs since is this, they were not needed to fight hiv.
all right, senator chuck schumer speaking now. let's season. >> -- how important the bill is to our americans. getting the vaccine to the people. opening american schools. keeping families afloat and for putting our country on the road to a strong recovery. now that this agreement has been reached, we will power through the rest of the process and get this bill done. make no mistake, we are going to continue working until we get the job done. i yield the floor. >> mr. president? >> inquiry.
>> what time did the vote begin? >> the vote began at 11:03:00 a.m. >> how much time elapsed here on the floor? >> 11 hours and 50 minutes. >> oh, goodness. it's been quite a start. quite a start to the fast track process. they were in a big hurry. started voting on the first amendment, right after 11:00 a.m. democratic leader held the vote open all day so they could figure out what they are going on with their own legislation, that they want to pass with their own vote. the last time, we had a long string of amendment votes just a couple weeks ago. we considered about 40
amendments. so if you multiply 11 hours of scrambling times 40 amendments, you land at about 440 hours. that is about 18 days with zero breaks. so look, the whole idea behind this, i gather from listening to them over the last few weeks. is to use the crisis to jam through what the white house chief of staff called the most progressive domestic legislation in a generation. a little tougher than they thought it was going to be. turned tout be a little tougher. well, what this proves is, there are benefits to bipartisanship when you deal with an issue of
this magnitude. were more not more eight votes -- >> you are listening to mitch mcconnell the senate minority leader speaking on the floor now. chuck schumer speaking moments ago, saying it's time to pass the bill. mitch mcconnell complaining how long it's taking and there are no republican votes. again, they continue on. we will continue up to date as you as they try to get the covid relief bill passed. in the meantime, i want to tell you about this. this is a take this segment. an arizona lawmaker will propose a bill that will let arizona businesses ban masks from being mandated. he said they shouldn't be mandated. >> when we talk about the argument of the flu and all the past viruss we had because as
dr. freeze says, the masks stops the virus. want hiv that was going to wipe our global destruction of human bodies with aids '80s, yet, no masks for required. >> what an ignorant and ridiculous argument. just stupid, ridiculous all the way around. masks would not stop the spread of hiv aids. it's not a respiratory illness. and he says, the early stages we did not know how they were t transmitted. yes, well, we have known for about four decades now that hiv is not a respiratory virus.
we are a year into this. we know the virus spreads through droplets in the air, face masks along with social distancing stop it from spreading. and as the pandemic has gone on there is more and more proof that masks work. the cdc releasing data today that says a mask mandate reduced covid-19 case counts and deaths. that's what makes all of this so frustrating. with over half a million americans dead, last spring, experts agree that mask wearing needed to be the major tool to stop the spread. we have a way to stop the virus. and we still need to stop it. vaccines alone will not end this far. you know what will? wearing one of these. well.
okay. so we're not taking a break. all right. all right, so we're going to keep going here. sorry about that. let's move on here. senate democrats moving ahead tonight, as you saw, trying to get the covid relief bill passed after breaking a stalemate with one of their own, democrat joe manchin over the extension of unemployment benefits. and the up stick in vaccine shots to about 2 million per day, and the authorization of the new johnson & johnson vaccine. i want to bring in now cnn's congre congressional correspondent ryan nobles. we just saw the -- two leaders, minority and the majority leader in the senate er