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good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." i'm amara walker. >> and i'm phil mattingly. a crucial day on capitol hill as they get ready to pass president biden's economic bill. we're going to take you live to capitol hill and tell you what's in it and will it pass. also overnight, a major blow to abortion rights advocates. they become the first banning the law in most cases.
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now a jury has ordered conspiracy theorist alex jones to pay up to the parents of a sandy hook shooting victim. ♪ hi, everyone. it is saturday, august 6th, and thank you so much for waking up with us, especially you, phil. i'm glad your alarm clock went off. >> yeah. my big question right now looking at my phone, are my kids awake yet? has the circus fully started in my household? did yours? >> mine almost did when my alarm clock went off at 3:00 -- not 3:00, 2:00. my son started crying. i got to take him out of bed and stick him with my husband and leave the circus. you deal with it. >> yeah, exactly, exactly.
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there's plenty going on at home, but we're going to be r gin a crucial test. voting is set today on the major economic and climate bill. the bill has the support of arizona senator kyrsten sinema who demanded several changes to the tax provisions, which she got. support is essential as senators pushed for passage under what we call a convoluted procedural passage. >> here's a snapshot. it includes $369 billion to combat climate change, the largest investment in u.s. history. it also gives medicare the power to negotiate some drug prices. it caps medicare out-of-pocket expenses at $2,000. and it extends the affordable care act subsidies for three years. cnn's reporter melanie
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zanona has more. walk us through the process what democrats are using this weekend to try to get this major piece of legislation across the finish line. >> i'm going to try not to put your viewers to sleep. i know it's early. the process they're trying to use is a budget reconciliation. it will allow democratic senators to pass it along party lines. they won't need the help of republicans, but they have to comply with certain budget rules. they'll make a determination whether the package complies with all of the rules so they can pass the bill. once they get a final ruling about that, they'll move to the first procedural vote here in the senate. they ontario need a simple majority. then there's a maximum of 20 hours' debate. it depends if they use up all of their time. after that it's a vote-o-rama. it's unclear how long it could take. once that's done, they can move
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to final passage. the house is planning to come back on friday so they can clear it. if it all goes according to plan, it could be on president biden's desk next week. >> you know how the sausage is made. but what is a vote-o-rama anyway. explain it? >> any one senator can offer an amendment vote, but really the minority party uses it to craft really difficult votes for the opposing party. take a listen to how gop senate leader lindsey graham described it. >> what will vote-o-rama be like? it will be like hell. they deserve it. as much as i appreciate manchin and sinema standing up, they're empowered to make the average
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person's life more difficult. >> senate majority leader chuck schumer dismissed any idea of politically tough votes. he said in the end the passage will outweigh anything difficult the senators will have to do. it will be a long night. they're talking about busting out the cots and ordering late-night pizza because it's going go a long weekend. >> all right. i'm sure you'll be watching it closely. thanks so much. appreciate that. after months of setbacks and false starts, the biden administration is celebrating some major wins on multiple fronts. >> and those victories, they come at a crucial moment for the president and his party. cnn's kevin liptak is live at the white house. the country is still dealing with soaring inflation. the white house, however, is loo touting signs of a strong economy. what are you reading right now? >> the jobs report that came out for july was certainly lending fuel to the white house fire.
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this week alone, it's at a 50-year low. wait did was bolster the white house's argument that the economy is not heading into a recession. you heard them making that argument throughout the last couple of weeks, that because the jobs market was so strong, the economy wasn't headed toward a recession, despite negative growth and high inflation. this really lends fuel to that argument. you did hear president biden come out yesterday to the blue room balcony and kind of take a victory lap. listen to what he said. >> we're almost at 10 million jobs, 10 million jobs since i took office. that's the fastest job growth in history. today there are more people working in america than before the pandemic began. in fact, there are more people working in america than at any point in american history. >> now, the president also mentioned in there that there
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would be a lot of americans that didn't necessarily feel a strong economy because of high prices, because of high inflation, and that, of course, has been the defining messaging struggle for this white house is how do you convince americans that the economy is doing well when so many say they just don't feel it in their everyday lives. the president mentioned that. the other downside to this jobs report is what the federal reserve will take from it. do they see an overheated economy and see more steps like raising interest rates to try to rein in inflation. he started the week by announcing the death of that terrorist leader in afghanistan. he had positive news in midterm votes on tuesday. he got kyrsten sinema and all the democrats onboard with the reconciliation bill on wednesday. certainly there's something about pep in his step as he
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heads into the weekend. phil, this jobs report was so key that it showed all of the jobs lost during the pandemic have been regained. >> kevin liptak on the front lawn, not wearing the aviators just yet. now to discuss the major economic news, political white house reporter daniel lippman. daniel, we just heard president biden touting the jobs report. but he also acknowledged americans may have a hard time appreciating it with inflation the highest in the last 40 years. you know this white house. you know the people inside of it very, very well. what's your sense of it right now as to how they're looking at the state of the economy? >> they feel pretty good, and obviously, privately, they would wish the job numbers had been lower to avoid the federal reserve to continue tightening on prices and feeling the need
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to do. that but democrats feel like, you know, what recession is on the horizon if you're going to have 500,000 jobs created every month. and so obviously they're worried about inflation, but they feel like biden hasn't gotten enough credit on building and helping build this economy that is really doing, you know, gangbusters in terms of the actual numbers. >> yeah. i mean the recovery, if you compare it to the 2008-2009 recovery, it's dramatically different, dramatically faster, inflation standing in the way. daniel, we're not surprised by much in this town. you surprise me with your personnel scoops that annoy me and cause me problems on a major basis. i'm tired. can you take a day off or two. when joe manchin and chuck schumer reached agreement on the climate bill, that was a stunner. what people are trying to get their heads around is this going to matter with the midterm
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elections? will it change the dynamics with the wind at their back? what's your read? >> it used to be people were concerned about the swing voters and getting some in the middle. that's important for getting some voters in major swing states, but a lot of it is turnout in your own base, and this is where that bill helps because a lot of democrats were really angry with the president. they felt like they elected this master of the senate, and he couldn't get anything passed. so this is something they can go to their voters and get them energized to volunteer, to donate money because for many democrats, climate change is the number one issue, and they feel it's an existential issue for their kids, their grandkids. so now you have the biggest piece of legislation ever on this specific topic. and so that really helps democrats to feel like, hey, we
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put biden in, and this is what we got. no one is remembering that covid response relief bill, you know, a year and a half ago. >> yeah. i mean there's actual results now, several pieces of legislation have moved through. one of the questions, is obviously democrats can pass this in the simple majority. the republicans have made it clear they're not going to let it pass without a fight. lindsey graham said he's going to make it, quote, unquote, hell. how do you propose it's going to go? >> obviously they're going to try to embarrass democrats, particularly those up for re-election in the next few days. the tough amendments, they're still crafting what to embarrass democrats on or to make tough votes, but i think with sinema's support, you know, recently, to say, hey, as long as the parliamentarian, the all-important parliamentarian
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approves most of the stuff and she's onboard the train, they basically nailed this deal. sinema is not going to vote for some amendment that is going to tank the spill. on the hill, democrats and schumer will be popping the champagne. there will be a white house ceremony where biden will be beaming and out of covid, and that will be good for him. >> and definitely rocking the aviators. one thing i definitely wanted to get to, so much big new this week, kansas passed a law effectively banning abortion. i'm always wary of putting out election results particularly not on an election night. do you expect this to drive people to the polls in november? >> it definitely has the potential and reality. that's wait did earlier this week. and so this is just another
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issue that is at the wind of the backs of democrats. republicans don't want to talk about abortion. they'd rather focus on rising prices. democrats feel like, hey, this is a personal right at stake that was taken away by the supreme court. and the supreme court said this should be left to the states. but even when you have the most conservative state of kansas saying, hey, we don't want to allow this -- we don't want to go back to the 1950s in how women were treated and what rights women had, that's kind of a clear signal that democrats might try to use that to their advantage in terms of michigan and other states where they can put these referendums or try to get this enshrined in their state constitutions. it kind of reminds me of the opposite that happened in 2004 when republicans used gay marriage referendums to drive turnout on their end. this is going to be another social issue that democrats feel pretty good about where the
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majority of americans are on their side. >> democrats say it might be the case. a lot of republicans had their eyebrows raised. daniel lippman, as always, my friend, i really appreciate it. >> thank you, phil. >> enlightening conversation. indiana has become the first state to pass an abortion ban since roe v. wade was overturned. the bill would provide exceptions for when the life of the mother is at risk and for fatal fetal anomalies. it would also allow exceptions for some abortions if abortion was the result of rape or incest. indiana currently allows abortions up 20 weeks after fertil fertilization. protesters filled the halls of the indiana state capitol. the new law will go into effect on september 15th. and alex jones has been ordered to pay nearly $50 million to the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed in the
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sandy hook massacre. how much money will they actually get? that's coming up. a flood watch is in effect for the people in kentucky. we'll show you how residents are starting to clean up after the historic floods. >> later, cnn's exclusive interview with republican congressman and january 6th committee member liz cheney. does she think they should prosecute donald trump in his role in the insurrection. that's coming up. versus 16 grgrams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein.
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shooting that killed 20 first graders and six adults was a hoax. it was staged by crisis actors. with us now, defense attorney and cnn analyst joey jackson. joey, let's start with the money. the parents had to endure these torturous lies for so many years, and the money is the best and only way to get alex jones to pay up literally and figura turley. they had asked for $150 million. they got $45 million. is that a big win? why do you think the jury sennsettled on that number? >> it's huge. good morning to you, am rachlt what happened, to be clear, there are a number of phases. we know a default was issued in october. what does that mean? it means he would not provide discovery and information of the other parties, he would not participate in the litigation, and as a result the jury could not make a decision based on the merits because he was not all
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in. with that said, he was said to be liable by default. then the case moves on to the damages portion. the first instance the jury has to determine is compensatory damages. they're designed to compensate you for your out-of-pocket losses and expenses. they came back, that is, the jury, and said it would be $4.1 million. excuse me. the day before yesterday. subsequent to that, they had to decide from a punitive damages measure, which is designed to punish you. punitive damages are designed to send a message that we don't like your conduct, we think your conduct was willful. what you said was wrong. it was inappropriate. it was beyond the pale. what we have to keep in mind is although the jury awarded that amount in punitive damages, there's a statutory cap, amara, in texas. it limits the damages to $750,000 per, right, plaintiff. so ultimately it will be $1.5
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million. different jurisdictions very briefly have issued what's called tort reform. jurors send messages. those messages can bankrupt businesses. and so some jurisdictions throughout the country limit the amount of damages notwithstanding what a jury would otherwise impose as texas has done here. >> but alex jones could be forced to pay up more, right, because there is a similar defamation suit against him in connecticut. he was supposed to stand trial. of course, that's on hold while the bankruptcy proceedings go on. an economist testified yesterday that jones withdrew what was it nearly $62 million last year. he's accused of using shell companies to hide his wealth. do you think the judge is going to be able to find -- you know, get access or figure out how much money he has access to? >> yeah. a couple of things going on. the one thing to be clear about, this is not the end of the road. this is one particular case.
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there are other cases pending in connecticut, and those families deserve relief. important point, yes, we have a first amendment right, but nails and falls when you defame someone, say something false that affects their reputation and affects them emotionally. i suspect those jurors, analogous to these jurors, will come up with compensatory damages to compensate them and punitive damages as well. in addition to that, you raise the issue of bankruptcy. bankruptcy laws are designed to protect companies and individuals in the event there are issues in paying debtors, right, debtors and creditors -- you're a debtor if you owe the money. the creditors are owed the money. so you can get bankruptcy protections. but they're not designed in a way, amara, you can otherwise fraudulently come vai and otherwise encumber monies that were meant to pay people.
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though he's using the bankruptcy laws to protect himself, he's doing it in a way to dissipate assets and hide assets. laws don't like that. courts don't like that, right? as a result of that, i think ultimately those assets will be gotten. it may delay the process, but you can't fraudulently delay it to get out and from behind issues when you owe money. >> just a few seconds. i have to ask you about the surprising turn in the trial where we saw alex's lawyer inadvertently send the sandy hook parents two years worth of his cellphone messages. and now you have federal investigators who want the lawyers to hand over these records. does he face more legal trouble on that front then? >> i really do think so. i think he faces legal trouble with respect to perjuring himself in this particular case. i think he faces legal trouble for january 6th.
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he was called before the committee, we should remind everyone in january. he pled the fifth saying i can't answer that because it will incriminate me 100 times. let's see what investigators find with respect to the emails when he says, hey, i never sent any emails about january 6th. there's proof he's been doing fitter two years. there's potential trouble. >> he definitely attended the insurrection on january 6th. joey, thank you very much.h. we're back right after this. . nono sales speak, no wasted time. go to and d pick your favorite.
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cnn has learned former president trump's attorneys are in direct talks with the justice department about its criminal probe into the january 6th insurrection. the talks are focused on just
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how far trump can take his claims of executive privilege and shield conversations from federal investigators that he had while president. >> now, this news comes as the january 6th committee vice chair liz cheney says if the facts and evidence are there, the doj should prosecute the former president for his role in the insurrection. cnn's casey hunt sat down for an exclusive interview with the republican. >> do you think that will stop him from becoming president again? >> i think they're going to follow the evidence. they've clearly seen activity with the individuals they now have testifying in front of the grand jury in dc, and i think they're taking their obligation seriously. i think we've certainly seen in our hearings when you have the former attorney general, former white house counsel, former acting attorney general, former deputy attorney general, and you
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have individuals who served donald trump who were nominated by him and served at the highest levels, who have testified in front of the committee and made clear, for example, as did pat cipollone, that president trump didn't want people to leave the capitol. now, mr. cipolloneny tried to e that point, asserting expectation tissue privilege, but i don't know that anybody understood what he was saying. i think they've following the facts and evidence and they're taking it seriously. >> some have skexpressed concer that prosecuting former president trump would turn him into a martyr and potentially add to his political strength with a base that follows him pretty rapidly. do you share that concern? do you have any concern that a prosecution would strengthen donald trump's political hand? >> i don't think that it's appropriate to thib it that way
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because the question for us is are we a nation of laws? are we a country where no one is above the law? and what do the facts and the evidence show? and certainly i've been very clear. i think he's guilty of the most serious dereliction of duty of any president o our nation's history. you had a federal judge in california say it's more likely than not that he and john eastman committed two crimes. so, you know, i think that we're going to continue to follow the facts. i think the department of justice will do that. but they have to make decisions about prosecution, understanding what it means if the facts and the evidence are there and they decide not to prosecute, how do we then call ourselves a nation of laws. i think that's a very serious, serious balancing. >> it sounds like you think the evidence is there and the that if they don't follow that
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evidence, that's a dereliction of duty on their part. >> well, the committee, i think, has been very thorough in laying out much of what we know. there's much more that we have not yet shared in hearings and that we anticipate we will share in the fall, but -- and we will also make decisions about criminal referrals, and ultimately the decision about prosecution is up to the justice department, but i anticipate the committee will have an opinion on that. >> cnn is reporting that texts from the pentagon are missing. do youly was malicious intent be behind the missing texts from that day? >> i don't know that that's the case. i haven't seen evidence of malicious intent. i do think, though, that it's concerning that you have text messages apparently -- and this is based on the news reporting -- but text messaging apparently of some of the senior officials,
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people like kash patel, apparently not available. now, certainly as a committee, we'll get to the bottom of that. we've been working with secret service, and the situation has been reported where text messages are not available or were erased off of phones. but we've received hundreds of thousands of documents from the secret service, and significant information from them that the committee is going through and will use in our investigation and as we conduct interviews of additional secret service agents. >> how much would you say you have learned was unexpected? you obviously have a lot more information than the general public does in your head about what happened on that day, but when you started the hearings earlier this year, did you have any idea how much you would know at this point? >> it's been more information
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and more sophisticated and broader reaching effort than i understood coming into it. i think all of us on the committee have had that same reaction, which is there's so much -- there was so much more that was happening in, you know, multiple different areas, whether it was the pressure on state officials or the pressure on the justice department or the attempt to corrupt the pressure of the vice president himself. so i think the volume of information has been more than i expected. and, certainly, obviously i came into this very concerned, and the information itself has not l lessened my concern at all. >> are you in contact with former vice president mike pence about this as well? >> no. we've had discussions with his
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counsel about his interacts with the committee, but not him personally. >> what's your perception of how he's handling things? unlike you, he're not out there criticizing former president trump. >> what i would say is vice president pence was a hero on january 6th and that it's very clear clear that there was tremendous pressure on him with his duty and he hadn't succumbed to that pressure. if he had succumbed to that pressure, things would have been very different. owe him gratitude for how he conducted himself and for his refusal to do what donald trump wanted him to do, which would have been illegal and unconstitutional. >> do you think he would be an ally in the fight to keep trump
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out of oval office? >> let me just leave it where i did. i think his actions on january 6th are ones for which the nation should be grateful. >> there's been a lot of speculation about how the committee is or isn't making an impact with the american people, especially when it comes to the question of whether donald trump becomes a republican nominee and potentially president of the united states again. do you think the committee is doing the work to move the needle? >> i don't think about it that way. i think it's important that the committee's work not be viewed through a political lens, and that's not how i think about that. i think about it in terms of whether or not we're reaching people who understand how serious the threat was and continues to be, and i think in that regard, you know, we have done the job that i'm proud of. >> do youly are enough people out in the country who share
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these concerns that you have and that many people who are also at the capitol on that day have? are there enough americans out there to move the needle? >> i think that the vast majority of americans understand how important it is that we have peaceful transitions of power and that sort of at the heart of who we are as americans and at the heart of our republic is a peaceful transition of power and no matter what your party affiliation is, you have to have a president who will guarantee that and donald trump did not. and so i do think as more and more facts become known, people are paying attention and understanding how serious the threat is. >> it's a fascinating conversation. coming up in our next hour, more of that exclusive interview with congresswoman cheney. we ask her about her tough fight in wyoming and political fight for the future.
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soaked but priceless pieces of appalachian history. just across the river, another piece of appalachian culture caked in mud after a flood ripped through this downtown dis distillery. >> first you're heart broec and the then you try to get it fixed back as soon as possible. >> reporter: community touchstones destroyed. schools, pharmacies, fire departments, and grocery stores. nothing spared in these tiny towns. >> you think of it as a store, but it's actually a gathering place for evan. >> reporter: while the fire department was doing boat rescues, their boat flooded, fire truck swept away. the majority of the deaths happened in knot county including four children. for those who survived the
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flood, surviving the aftermath brings new challenges, which for many becomes more difficult by the day. >> there's nothing left. everything's destroyed. >> reporter: the rural nature of the region coupled with the water crushing roads and bridges made rescue and resources difficult to come by with the national guard coming in by air and neighbors by atv, survivors helping survivors in places like wolf cole and fleming neon where every home and business was affected, leaving people stranded, forcing them to lift themselves out of the mud, not getting outside help for days. >> you can't help but cry, you can't help but cry, but it's going to be okay. it's going to be okay. we'll be back. >> reporter: survivors like the fire chief who hung onto the top
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of the tanker for 15 hours where the floodwaters rolled around. to really recover, they'll need more than repairs. >> i kind of wondered about things, how to go forward, but, you know, i've got to fix myself first. >> reporter: most who escaped with their lives had littlest left behind when the water receded. >> see the window? that's how deep the water was. >> reporter: gary click said most of his possessions were ruined. he didn't have flood insurance because he doesn't live in a floodplain. >> i never saw water like that. >> reporter: larry lived by troublesome creek for most of his life, but he's not sure if his community ever independent and resilient can ever be the same. >> this is really the ontario this little community. >> reporter: admitting he'll never be able to shake the fear of another flood.
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well, finally, mercifully, the nfl is officially back. that, of course, means a visit to canton, ohio, where there will be a celebration inducting the greatest into the football hall of fame. >> with that in mind, coy wire is joining us with the woman
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who's leading the league on and off the field and into the future. good morning. >> you're going to hear about legends standing on the shoulders of giants. in my nine-year nfl career, some of those memorable moments are those i wish i could give back around that's in large part because of trail blazer anna isaacson. she leads initiatives like my clause, my cleats, salute to service, nfl's crucial catch. we talked about her impact on communities over her 16-plus years in the league. >> the nfl's always been about community and sort of elevated it and allowed us to dive in deeper and take these campaigns to the next evl. so they're all awesome in their own way. i think seeing how our fans and our communities react to them has really been some of the most moving experiences for me, right, getting letters from people who said, thank you, if i
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wasn't watching the game, if i wasn't at the game, i would haven't been reminded to get a mammogram and that helped save my life. >> you are a woman leading in a league comprised of a lot of guys, for all the young women out there, what's your message to them as they seek to reach the top? >> there's a lot of women in the nfl doing unbelievable things. are more women at the top than there were 10, 15 years. you have a voice, right? use it. don't be shy to use it. i always tell people when i get in a room or get a seat at the table, use my words wisely, but use them, right? be there. and have a voice and have a message, and if you feel confident in doing that, people might listen to you. >> we're seeing so many more female coaches in the league as well. what's the league look like ten years from now? >> i see women gms, tons more
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women coaches. we just had our third female official join the ranks. so i think the sky is the limit to be honest, and i think there's a welcoming attitude toward that. i don't see any issue going on there. i think, you know, women are already all throughout the league office and i think we'll see them more at clubs. ownership continue to grow. think the football side is going to be interesting to watch. >> helping to change lives around the world. anna has changed things. le she's inspired increasing funding to 98% of their ten-year commit to social justice causes in programming in just about four years. pretty inspiring stuff. >> i need some anna in my life. can i get her number? she's pretty amazing. >> she's pretty dynamic. >> totally.
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