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if european union agrees to spend 750000000000 euros to boost economies they hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic leaders of member states agreed to give brussels unprecedented the powers to spend borrow and levy taxes across the bloc so has this union of 27 sovereign states just tiptoed a little closer to becoming a european republic i'm phil gayle in berlin and this is the day. today was taken a historic step we can all proud of our response to the biggest crisis the european union has ever faced when you when you begin to live in the new should not only was this perhaps for the longest summit in history but that. what came out of it is
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truly historic. this is the this is this toward the europe as a whole it has now have the chance to come out stronger from the crisis both in. the words new for europe writes no. also on the day a committee of m.p.'s from britain's parliament accuses the government of badly underestimating the threat from russia and failing to investigate the possibility of russian interference in the bratz it referendum so the question is who is protecting british public from interference in our democratic process well in a nutshell we found no one is. after 4 days and 4 nights of tough and often bad tempered negotiating the european union has agreed i don't precedented 7 her. $150000000000.00 euro coronavirus recovery
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fund countries hit hardest by covered 19 will receive loans and grants to try and revive their bath economies of that $750390000000000.00 will be available as grants the other 360000000000 will be in the form of cheating loans but it was a hard sell some countries held out to the last against this is to a departure from previous fiscal orthodoxy and the introduction of shared debt good morning to everyone and we did it europe is strong europe is soon 8 level for these were the words the delegates have been working towards a deal has been done and the wrangling can stop everyone can go home some kind of when a. relief was visible on their faces despite the masks sharma shire council chief france's emanuel mccall and ursula fund the line commission president plus standing
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to a list of them will mark reiter from the netherlands he had led the group limited the grants and made them conditional what i was aiming for and i think we have achieved the emergency brake and emergency brake at the level of european council to be able to enforce the force in member states if they are not taking place against the broker of that particular member state. has agreed with european commission. states like poland and victor all bans hungary they insisted though they hadn't been boxed in. by. the rule of law. was. packed was the 31st fully rejected despite underlying problems that haven't gone away maclin macor say the e.u. works. after a very long session we have reached
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a good conclusion and i am very happy about that therefore. europe has shown that it is prepared to take new paths in what is a very special situation i believe that is necessary for extraordinary events and in this case that's the pandemic that has reached us all demand extraordinary new methods what is. the whole thing may have been close but macro says the deal they reached will help all 27 e.u. nations should over i'm convinced that this plan this budget will respond to the health economic and social challenges we are all facing in our country stricken p. . it was a long fight 4 days of negotiations brought significant divisions to light but the deal stands and now everyone can go home. take a closer look at this with eric jones he's
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a professor of european studies and international political economy a johns hopkins school of advanced international studies welcome to d w let's start with this massive sounding figure 750000000000 euros sounds like a lot is it. well as it may it's a really big number it's not as big as the numbers in that they're playing with them united states in the various stimulus packages that they have and it's not as big as the numbers that the national governments are able to put together but it's really the biggest number the european union has ever borrowed in its history so looking at it that way you could say this is an historic moment and a very oppressive agreement to reach and this also represents the biggest joint borrowing agreed by the a you have the idea of paul's debt which is quite a departure for the book it does it does in the most significant aspect of this is that if you look closely at the agreement they haven't quite
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figured out how they're going to pay for it yet so we know that they're going to look at a series of different possible taxes but we're not quite sure what taxes they're going to agree on so the next fight is going to be over that you see the taxes it's quite interesting guy one of those taxes is this a tax on non recycled plastics it's going to be passed directly from the states to brussels which sounds fairly knock us and quite mundane but that's a that's another direct taxation of member states by brussels at the santa. if they can get that agreed that would be a very impressive achievement but let's not forget that these direct taxes on things like non-recyclable plastic don't fall evenly across member states either been bologna in italy which is the headquarters for the italian packaging industry and they are going to pay that tax much more heavily than other parts of europe so we should expect a fight over how is tax revenues are going to be raised and distributed now the
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fight has not yet taken place well that's been nothing but fighting over the last 4 days and i had a german green me today saying that the disunity and the bad feeling generated during these negotiations was the result of rules that require unanimity what we need he suggested is a cure of p. and republic with qualified majority voting what do you think i think at this stage the willingness to participate in such a venture is not enough the fact of the matter is they had fights but they got all that tension out in the air which you would not want would be for them to be very unhappy with this agreement and none of them had had the opportunity to have their voices heard so far everybody's had their voices heard everybody seems to have come away with some sense of participation and how this agreement on folded that's probably the best way to move forward i would argue ok so the system works and i'm
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out of it it's a bit messy so who gets the money i'm one of the have to spend it on. well the amount of money that's going to be distributed is probably smaller than you might imagine certainly in the initial thing is the state some will get the money or states like spain and italy and they'll get that money because they've been hit hardest by this pandemic and they'll spend the money in order to meet objectives that will result in their growth in recovery those objectives that will be defined by the european commission and not by the italian and spanish governments those governments will set up proposals but the commission will have to approve those proposals in and of spending will be monitored along the way for once the cash tops are done what's to stop a country receiving money to build i don't know what was a pilot railway for instance but then deciding to spend it on building more coal mines well you know these these kinds of things on water power railroad would be
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a very long and complicated project and so what they've done is they've broken up the money and increment and they've created a process through which only parts of the money will be released at a time in the whole project has to be approved in advance so if and only try to build a water powered railway that probably wouldn't cross the 1st hurdle more likely it will try to build a large infrastructure project it will have to show not only that it's making progress in that project but also that it's achieving its national reform objectives along the way so there's a lot more to the conditionality involved in this that up then we might otherwise in to support. do the 7 member states have a. a payoff problem it always appears to be the southern states that have the problems it's a greece spain has always been that seemed to get themselves in so much trouble. that's only because we have short memories right i mean if you were to think back 220072008 even 2009 the countries that were in the most trouble were the countries
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in northern europe virtually every dutch bank went under many of the belgian banks went under as well germany paid more money in bank bailouts than any other country in europe and italy didn't have to bail out a single financial institution and at that point in time this time around the situation is different italy is that the frontline of the crisis and the solidarity is reverse but that solidarity has always been there it's just benefited northern europe other times in southern europe at this one quick would germany's complete about face germany always in the process being about balanced budgets this time it was pushing they stand it was pushing the idea of pooled debt why well i'm going to have grey hair remember when your hunch reminded us all in the summer of 2002 that it was called the stability and growth path in 2003 when your hunch
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quota suspended the rules for the excessive deficit procedure because deficit spending was in germany and europe's interest so i don't think that this is a complete about face for germany i don't even think it's a complete about face for i'm going to malcolm she's had many moments of time where she's changed her position subtly this happens to be a very strategic moment because she's given in europe the opportunity to do something that it desperately needed to do which is just show that it can hold together in the context of a crisis and she's done that i would a really good talking to you thank you for joining us and professor eric jones from the johns hopkins school of advanced international studies super thank you for having me. a group of british m.p.'s is criticize the government for failing to protect the u.k. elections from russian interference a report by parliament's intelligence and security committee says downing street avoided investigating russian meddling in britain's political system the committee
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also accuses the british government of deliberately not looking for evidence of russian interference in the referendum that saw britain leave the european union the committee found a strong showing no one in government had sought beforehand to protect the referendum from such attempts or investigated afterwards what attempts to influence it there may have been. the government the u.k. government should have recognised the threat back in 24 team in relation to the scottish referendum but it didn't. well let's get a political scientist to cast his eye over this antony dillies is emeritus professor of security and intelligence studies at the university of the buckingham in the u.k. joins me now from oxford welcome to d.w. this report says the u.k. government badly underestimated the threat from russia and at the response it required downing street says the government was fully aware of the significant and
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enjoying threat that russia posed who do you believe. i think the government is in serious trouble tonight over this report it needs to be pointed out this isn't just any old group of politicians this is a unique parliamentary intelligence and security oversight committee of very c.v. . m.p.'s who have direct access to the intelligence and security community and what they say matters very seriously indeed now you could argue the whatever a committee of m.p.'s says to a government like boris johnson's with a majority of $88.00 holidays is not going to matter but bars jobson's government has already got into trouble over china though his policy has had to be reversed
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largely because of american pressure but also because of conservative backbench pressure so there is a suggestion that if the conservative backbenchers feel uncomfortable about this report they won't accept what boris johnson has said which is yes there was a problem in 2900 but no problem with the brakes at referendum but is the think that the u.k. has this massive security operators that we're often told is looked on with envy by other countries so what does underestimating a threat from russia not like. well that's a very good question and we know a little bit more today because the government has put out to make its case somebody who was. who was the national security adviser under david cameron to resign may and people should remember too it's not just criticism of boris johnson over russian interference in the december 29th teen
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election the criticism over russian interference in the scottish independence referendum in 2014 as well of course as the breaks it referendum of 2060 so there's a there's a a lot in this now the intelligence and security community are charged with keeping our political process safe and on the face of it they appear to a failed dismally what we've been hearing from some up the former national security adviser is the what am i 5 did do was identify 4 areas of concern some foreign like the russians in ukraine like crimea like syria and some domestic and in domestic what they identified was the use of russian money to pay british influencers to try to get the brics it vote.
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to go in favor of putin and that is identified as being booted as interest the disintegration of the european union and the disintegration of data so those 2 things now m i 5 we're told watched money changed hands but did nothing further with it so that is the big state you know my 5 watched the russians hand over money but then didn't inform parliament and the government by its own admission didn't ask to be informed. the question is begged i think the lawfulness of the brakes at referendum result remember it was a very small minority 3.7 percent of those made a difference in an in out referendum ok very is that is analogous. going to have to
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fight another day and i want to quickly ask should we presume that this is not just russia doing it should be presumed that britain the united states and others are also launching these sorts of attacks of course of course the truth is ever since 2016 britain has become increasingly vulnerable we've seen britain under attack and being threatened by china we've seen britain under attack and being threatened by putin and we also see america 3 it's way around it's not coincidental that secretary of state pub peo came over in person at the beginning of the week in order to ensure that britain would not honor its agreement to take who our way 5 g. we are in a very difficult place with very vulnerable in britain we don't have friends we don't have friends in europe right now and that makes us like who vulnerable people open to abuse and aggression and an influence that we don't want professor
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anthony grange thank you so much. now the trial has begun here in germany of the man accused of attacking a synagogue in the eastern city of hama last october is alleged to have killed 2 passers by after failing to get into the synagogue on yom kippur the holiest day in the jewish calendar prosecutors say he intended to massacre the worshipers inside. under armed guard and wearing a coronavirus face mask 28 year old he was led into court to answer for one of the worst anti semitic attacks in post-war german history it left 2 people dead but prosecutors allege he intended to kill many more $43.00 victims and relatives have joined the trial as co plaintiffs they want answers but there are concerns the
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suspect could seek an opportunity to spread more anti semitic hatred. peculiarity of this case is that the perpetrator has already confessed he doesn't deny what he did and i have learned from the files that in the end he only denies he has killed by arguing that he believes that struggle is necessary to achieve certain political goals. phobic and related to anti semitism. it was your last year judaism's holiest day when an armed men tried to storm this synagogue in her 52 worshipers were inside only the sturdiness of the door prevented what investigators say would have been a massacre. the man then shot and killed 2 people nearby
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this video was filmed by a member of the public the perpetrator live streamed footage of his attack on an internet gaming site. the case has drawn huge interest the start of proceedings was delayed for 2 hours while dozens of reporters and others through security. across germany people are concerned about a rise in the number and severity of anti semitic crimes according to official figures such attacks rose by 13 percent last year the interior ministry says right wing extremists are to blame despite that context the authorities say they're reacting to violence with fairness. the anger this time that the defendant is presumed innocent until a final judgment has been made his statements in the investigation and the videos which are supposed to show parts of what happened do not change anything the presumption of innocence applies without restriction playing. the suspect told the
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judge today that he liked using the internet because people could talk freely their charms with warnings for instance from the government's commissioner for protecting jewish life that social media gives a new outlet to hatred that's just one of the aspects to consider as the call tries to understand an attack that struck not only against jews but against german society as a whole. well let's take a look at some of the issues arising from this case with. william blue cross to welcome with him. we have a defendant who says i did it too i was not to alone but he's not the only one out there launching into some music attacks of course not i mean even if legally speaking he acted alone in this attack there is a wide network there's a whole world out there of far right extremists just the recent domestic intelligence report that came out for 2019 germany in from germany's interior
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ministry noted that that there is a network using social networks using music festivals especially all around europe connecting individuals connecting far right groups to exchange ideas really really hateful harmful ideas this is been going on for a very long time so even if he acted alone and actually carrying out this attack there is of course the ideas come from somewhere we live in a globalized networked world where ideas can and can go back and forth quite quickly and easily and you mention the report from the interior ministry here in germany this is an increasing problem in the country and it has been for a while the trends been going up i mean they they've noted 13000. violent prone. right wing extremists in germany that came from last year i was up a bit from $12700.00 in the previous year about a 3rd of the total right wing seen according to the interior ministry overall crimes far right crimes went up last year although violent crimes should be noted
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went down a bit so this problem is on the radar and it is something that is increasing and the interior ministry is also looking at more political parties now that they might not have in the past so what what's going on there in germany why is this happening i mean books are written about this and they have been there so many different masses we can look at germany is facing a reckoning. if what it means to be german what does it mean to what is a german look like what does a german sound like where does a german come from who what is it what is the germans parents like and where do they come from this is a conflict happening in german society right now. as we see in many other countries as societies are diversifying as more and more people are getting a seat at the table you have in germany 25 percent of people in this country have some kind of non german background yet only 8 percent of the german parliament reflects that so we're seeing this struggle about what it means to be german in the
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mind of german society which of course is a bit ridiculous because germany is a global power and has centuries of experience with different kinds of groups whether they be jews or they be people of color whether they be muslims so germany has always been a multicultural society but how germany sees itself that's a very different story so what then ok so we had a report from the interior ministry last year besides issuing reports what is the government doing about this as you know politics is at least a little bit performative public officials know they have to hit certain notes say certain things at certain times the real action has to take place in education in preventative measures in law enforcement and unfortunately there's a lot of issues were germany fall short even in this very case of khalid swastikas were found outside of the jewish community center in just a few weeks ago and there's a police officer there who's under investigation for obstruction of justice for
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possibly covering up that crime or that alleged crime as this case is going on in the state of hesse and there's a massive scandal going on where with potential links in the police there to the far right where as almost 30 people in 8 different states in germany have received threatening letters with a signature n.s.u. 2.0 n.s.a. was of course reference to the national nash. a socialist underground a spate of murders of far right murders against people with with foreign roots back in the early 2000 went for a long time and investigated and on. yeah unsolved that's really quite disturbing. william no one knew kroft thank you. well that's it that's the day is that may be done the conversation that continues online join us on twitter at the news so you can follow me out to fill gave us watching a good to. take
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