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sean? >> sean: mayor de blasio, they are assaulting your officers. step up. thank you, trace gallagher. we will always be fair, balanced, seek the truth without the destroy trump media mob, facts without fears, let your heart not be troubled. laura, you have a great show. you have the attorney general. >> laura: yes! you had the president last night, then you go to number two, you go to whatever number that is -- >> sean: stop complaining. you sound like a liberal. >> laura: that's one thing no one has ever accused me of. i appreciate that. >> sean: the development with this deep state? wow, it's about to blow wide open. i can't wait to watch. >> laura: we asked about john jerome, the firing of the inspector general. the left is going nuts on a whole host of nonspeech 29 france, so we tackle a lot of that with them. it'll be a huge interview.
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>> sean: i'll be watching. thank you. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle." in a moment, my exclusive interview with attorney general bill barr. i asked him about the really important issue of protecting our civil liberties as we balance the intricacies of health and protecting the vulnerable in our society during this national emergency and what's being done at the same time to hold china accountable? plus new questions of how we are classifying deaths of those testing positive for covid-19. a doctor with firsthand knowledge of this joins us later in the hour. and democrats' fake plans with their face masks? can't be. raymond arroyo here and brace it all down in seen and unseen. in a moment, my interview with the attorney general. but first, this is america in shutdown day 23. today we learned that tuesday was the deadliest day of all for
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our fellow citizens in this covid-19 battle. 779 in new york alone. new york accounts for 44% of all deaths in the united states now. and new york city, wrap your mind around this, has a staggering 73% of all deaths in the state of new york. as heartbreaking as those numbers are, and indeed they are heartbreaking, there are more signs tonight that we are turning the corner in this fight. >> there is good news and what we are seeing. what we have done and what we are doing is actually working on a it's difference. it is flattening the curve. we see that today. >> laura: and meanwhile in the greater maryland d.c. virginia area, the model projections are being revised downwards, that's the number we want to go in, the
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number of you want to again. that's the model that botch the projections on how many hospital beds, icu beds, and ultimately ventilators we'll need across the country. researchers from the i hme during the initial covid-19 wave? that's down from a projection of 1,041 deaths just a few days ago. repeat, the projections from just a few days ago were wildly off. really it's confusing. so far in virginia, only 75 people have died from covid, but we've yet to hear anything about this from virginia governor ralph northam who arbitrarily shutdown the commonwealth until june 11th. in maryland, ihme now says 1,094 will die of covid-19. that figure while you think about it seems like a lot of
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people, it is a lot of people, that's down from more than 50% from the 2,326 deaths the research team expected on monday. again, just a few days ago, a 50% change in that projection. now marylin governor larry hogan shut down his state indefinite indefinitely. question came to mind, may be yours as well. will he change those plans given the new numbers. they always say they are data-driven. i guess we'll see how much they meant that. th"the angle" believes that it's extremely important that we have full transparency on the data, the methodology, and the objective metrics set for reopening our country when this crisis abates. dr. fauci is right, nobody will ever be perfect. that's never going to happen.
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the projections here, we aren't off by 10%, 15%, 20%, they were off by a factor of 33%, from 2.2 million rejected covid deaths at the top which were terrifying, to a little over 2,000 deaths projected today. >> the big projection that 2.2 million people would die if we did nothing. that was another decision we made, close it up. that was a big decision we made. two very smart people walked into my office and said, listen, these are your alternatives. that was a projection of i guess 1.5 to 2.2 million people if we didn't close it up, that's a lot of people. >> laura: he is right. 60,000 deaths, that's bad too. that's not good. every single life is precious. every single life should be mourned.
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from every race, religion, and creative. but at the same time, let's not forget the ongoing devastation to our larger american economy during this prolonged period of no work, no school, no worship, and basically no travel? it's a devastating blow. well, the president thankfully remains realistic but optimist optimistic. >> getting closer, you see the numbers come in getting much closer to getting our country back to the way it was. at some point we are all going to win, we'll do it sooner than people think. >> laura: this is extremely difficult. but we need more help, less askehysteria. more perspective, less panic. those are my thoughts on the end of day 23, america in shutdown. earlier today, i sat down with attorney general bill barr to talk about everything from civil liberties in the age of covid-19 to how we intend to hold china
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accountable. mr. attorney general, great seeing you. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me, laura. >> laura: we have no public worship, no freedom of assembly, no freedom of movement given with the states are doing. what can you tell our viewers tonight what the justice department will do after this limited period to ensure that our civil liberties are balanced properly against the need to protect the public? >> well. you know, generally speaking, there are occasions where liberties have to be restricted during certain emergencies such as war, but in this case to be potentially devastating in a pandemic. but they have to be balanced, whatever steps you take has to be balanced with civil liberties against the american people and it cannot be used as an excuse for broad deprivations of
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liberty. as things proceed, both with the federal government imposing and also making sure that's justified, but also with the states do, the states are very broad, as you know, what's called police powers. very broad powers that the federal government doesn't have to regulate the lives of their citizens but as long as they don't violate the laws of the constitution, we'll keep a careful eye on that. >> laura: . forcibly this holy week, pass over well for jewish americans about the importance of not gathering together to celebrate and i want you to listen. >> now is not the time for large religious gatherings. we paid this price already. you do know service by making
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this thing works and infecting more people. >> laura: at what point in time do americans feel like they are going to be able to have that right back in the federal government will stand if local officials continue this all-out prohibition going forward? >> as you know and i entered religious liberties is the first liberty, the foundation of our republic, and a free society depends upon a vibrant religious life among the people. any time that's encroached upon by the government i'm very concerned. as a technical matter and, as you know facing, whatever restrictions, like athletic events and concerts and so forth, they can technically do it to religion as well. as long as they are not singling out religion. i would hate to see restrictions
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on religion and continue longer strictly necessary and also when this 30-day period ends, we have to consider alternative ways of protecting people. >> laura: i guess he's focused on a lot of the funerals that hasidic are having in new york where people gather tightly together to mourn and to pray. so that's a concern. i tweeted out something earlier today. these are inalienable rights. there are a lot of americans today who are morning those who lost their lives in this horrible virus who also say that the government doesn't have this right to take our rights away. even when the experts are saying that this is a horrible time for us healthwise. and they are very worried, increasingly worried as time goes on but they've been very patient as w
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that this draconian measure is being adopted are fully justified and they are not in alternative ways of protecting people. d of april expires, i think wee have to allow people to adapt more than we have. not to tell people to go home and hide under the bed but allow them to use other ways can the social distancing and other means, to protect themselves. >> laura: will there be come a time in the future perhaps after this april 30th date to state summer or a local official declares no religious services and no accommodation that the lawsuit, filed civil rights lawsuit against government action, whether it's by executive decree, locally or statewide, or whether it's by the federal government. i mean, when will that happen?
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>> we see situations up to know where some jurisdictions impose special burdens on religions which they were applying to other gatherings and events. we jawboned at local government at that point, what they did to churches they had to do to every body and change the rules to be neutral in that respect. we will keep an eye on all these actions that restrict peoples' liberty. in the same token, a situation that essentially akin to wartime, the government can impose certain limitations. >> laura: we had a supreme court still in session. a congress that i don't think ever went out of session. for any length of time. congress back home in their district and the supreme court is closed. how was that the whole government approach to fighting a pandemic when it's just the
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executive branch and... >> congress has taken action -- >> laura: a lot of money. >> they provided a lot of guidance and restrictions on how we responded to this. we've chosen to do what they've done and they are certainly free to come back anytime they want to make a course adjustment. the supreme court has for a period of time certainly during this 30-day period stopped the usual business. >> the rule of law still applies for a pandemic. the rule of law, or inalienable rights, the law of the land, it all still exists. we don't want to set a precedent where experts declare a crisis and it's scary, a lot of people die, we lose our ability to function as a government. and the executive branch, i know you are the executive branch
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now, where we do not have that whole of government real approach to safeguard the liberties of the american peop people? >> one of the things the president has done very well here is to use the strength of the federal system where certain decisions should be made in washington, perhaps. but also allowing each state to adapt to the situation that confronts it and make their own choices. and that is a form of protecting liberty. the federal system is a form of protecting liberty, to have the government closest to the people make those decisions. so i think we do have that protection. you are right in the general sense that there is power for the government to take extraordinary steps in genuine emergencies. that obviously creates a slippery slope, what do you call in an emergency? i am concerned we did not get in the business of declaring everything in emergency and using these kinds of sweeping
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extraordinary steps. but given where we were back in march, i think the president made the right decision. i think the president has made the right decisions for the right reasons. against the advice of many people he closed borders and when the history of this is written that's going to save a lot of lives. i think that given the uncertainty that surrounded this and the possibility it was so contagious that it would swamp our health care system, he supported the appropriate moves for a limited period of time. >> laura: will you be recommending going forward any type of changes to protocols at our borders, of our ports of entry, obviously a lot of legal implications here, health screenings of people coming into the country. giving the deprivation of americans liberties due to a virus that came -- without getting into the details, but came from a foreign entity, namely here, china? >> absolutely.
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as horrible as this is an tragic as this is, there are a couple of good things that can flow from this experience. and one is to again, once again appreciate the importance of borders and controlling who is coming in the country. i felt for a long time is much as people talk about global warming that the real threat to human beings are microbes and being able to control disease and that starts with controlling the border. i think people would be more attuned to more protective measures but also the supply chain. the idea much of what we need to protect the health of the american people is in the foreign down the control of foreign governments, we are not shifting stuff to the united states where everyone else worldwide said during a pandemic is a crazy situation to get into happen before this administration and the president is trying to deal with it. >> laura: we still don't have all the data. we still don't know about
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patient zero in china. a lot of the data is being withheld still from the united states, top medical people are saying that. what about the justice department getting involved more, i guess obviously to the american people on this data against the ongoing propaganda machine of china and the united that are universities and businesses, in the white house press room the other day. >> one of our highest priorities in the realm, counterespionage realm and protection of trade secrets operated against the chinese. the chinese are engaged in a full-court blitzkrieg stealing american technology, trying to influence our political system, trying to steal secrets in our research universities and so
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forth. we are focused on it. something called the china initiative, we brought a lot of indictments, something we also have to expose letting the business community exactly the nature of the threat. >> laura: given what you know today of the panoply of abuses internationally against the united states, who is the biggest threat to america's election security. russia or china? >> in my opinion, it is china. not just for the election progress, but i think across the board. simply there is no comparison. china is a very serious threat to the united states geopolitically, economically, militarily, and a threat to the integrity of our institutions given the ability to influence this. >> laura: are premier academic
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institutions, our top schools across the country have welcomed in chinese students to learn and partake in research. we had documented abuses, ongoing federal investigations now, indictments in boston against harvard university professors for conspire conspiring with the chinese allegedly. any thoughts on the ongoing federal grants, institutions, this is an all-out blitzkrieg. why are we allowing all these chinese researchers into the united states. >> we have to tighten up on those programs. a number of the universities working closely with the government to understand the nature of the threat is. but it's not just universities. universities are part of the problem but part of american businesses for short-term profit or what they see is a short-term profit. over the long run, it's not going to be long-term benefits to their business. but just for short-term gain,
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they are perhaps not doing what is necessary in the long-term interest of the united states. >> laura: coming up later in the show, more with my exclusive interview with the attorney general and what he says about the left's wildly partisan response to the coronavirus pandemic. plus a shocking claim from a minnesota doctor about what he's being told to do with the number of covid-19 deaths. he joins us to tell his story next. (music)
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♪ >> i >> i think in this country, we've taken a very liberal approach mortality. the intent is right now that if someone died with covid-19, we are counting that as a covid-19 death. >> i can imagine someone comes
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in with coronavirus, goes into nicu and they have an underlying heart convention, they die, they will say cause of death heart attack. i cannot see that happening. >> laura: that was from yesterday's white house briefing and it sparked a nationwide debate over how we count deaths near covid-19. do we count someone who tested positive with the virus but died of pneumonia as a covid death? what about somebody who died with symptoms of the disease but was never actually tested. it's actually crucial information. covid death stats guide the model is that guide federal government response to the crisis. italy, very interesting, has been grappling with the same debate for weeks. i mention it two weeks ago. here's where the telly gala here's what the daily telegraph reported. italy's minister of health, here's what he said, the way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all people who die at hospitals with the coronavirus
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are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. on reevaluation by the national institute of health, only 12% of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus while 88% of patients who have died have at least one premorbidity. many had two or three. my next guest is a doctor in saint senator in minnesota deeply troubled by the cdc's latest guidelines for counting speed 29 deaths. doctor, i want to read what the cdc says in part on how to count covid deaths. in cases where a definite diagnosis cannot be made but it is suspected or likely, like the circumstances are compelling with a reasonable degree of certainty, it's acceptable to report covid-19 on the death certificate as probable or presumed. so, doctor, what's the problem
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with that? >> in short, it's ridiculous. i spent some time earlier today just going through the cdc's manual on how the complete death certificates and the parts that were specifically written for physicians. in that manual, it talks of precision and specificity and that's what we are trained with. the determination of cause of death was a big deal, has impact on estate planning, has impact on future generation and the idea that we are going to allow people to massage and gain the numbers is a real issue because we are going to undermine the trust. and right now as we see politicians doing things aren't necessarily motivated on facts and science, the public is going to -- they are their trust in politicians is already growing thin. >> laura: in that same guidance sheet, covid-19, references the fact that this is a judgment call for doctors. and i read it.
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what goes on line one. what goes on line two. what goes on the final line as far as intruding factors and ultimate cause of death. they concede it is a judgment call. again. why is that not correct? >> lets just take influence. of had a patient who died a month ago who had fever, cough, and died after three days and had been an elderly or fragile individual and happened to be an epidemic around our community, i wouldn't put influenza in the death certificate. i would put probably respiratory arrest and the underlying call would be vis-a-vis pneumonia, and i would probably put emphysema or congestive heart failure. i would not put influenza as the underlying cause of death. that's what we are being asked to do here. >> laura: dr. fauci was asked about this between nine death count today.
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here's what he said in part. >> what you say to people who are making the claim without really any evidence that these deaths are being padded, that the number of covid-19 deaths are being padded. >> you always have conspiracy theories when you have very challenging public health crises. they are nothing but distractions. >> conspiracy theories, doctor, so you are engaging in conspiracy theories. what do you say to dr. fauci tonight? >> i would mind him anytime health care intersects with dollars, it gets awkward. medicare determines that if you have a covid-19 admission to the hospital, you'll get paid $13,000. if that covid-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you'll get $39,000, three times as much. nobody can tell me that after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kind of things impact on what we do. some physicians really have
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they'll put down influenza or whatever because that's their preference. i try to stay very specific, very precise. if i know i got pneumonia, that's what's going on on the death certificate. i'm not going to add stuff because it's convenient. >> laura: so you reject what he says? >> absolutely. >> laura: it's interesting in italy with socialized medicine, i guess they don't have an interest in the money if that's what it is here. they just went back and they started reclassifying deaths. according to their top scientific advisor. so they admitted that they were being liberal or generous in how they coded some of these deaths and they are just going back and reclassifying them. does that surprise you? >> it really does. let's just take someone getting hit by a bus. they collapsed along, going to the emergency room, they are there for 15-20 minutes.
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blood work comes back, and they died 20 minutes later because of a collapsed lung. are we going to put that down because of covid-19? that doesn't make any sense. >> laura: dr. jensen, really important conversation. we really appreciate your data-driven perspective. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> laura: coming up, bernie sanders says he's dropping out of the 2020 race. devastated. but is biden ready to leave the party? raymond arroyo plus part two of my exclusive interview with attorney general barr. you do not want to miss that. coming up.
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>> live from america's newest headquarters, i'm ashley strohmeyer. the race for ventilators continue, hospitals are reporting unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators leading some doctors to worry they might be harming certain patients. about half the patients with severe respiratory distress die while on a ventilator, but 85% of coronavirus patients die when placed on the machines in new york city. the government expected an additional 7 million unemployment claims on thursday. the business shutdown already caused 10 million to apply for benefits in the past two weeks. the backlogs in many states means that the numbers will likely keep increasing. about 50 million jobs are vulnerable to coronavirus layoffs. one-third of all jobs in the
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u.s. i'm ashley strohmeyer. now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: it's time for are seen and unseen segment. we reveal the stories behind the headlines. with details, i'm joined by raymond arroyo. also, author of "the amulet of power" now in paperback. so sad, bernie sanders and an or suspended his presidential campaign today with this threatening overture. >> i will stay on the ballot in all of the states and continue to gather delegates. we must continue to assemble as many delegates as possible at the democrat convention where we will be able to exert significant influence over the party platform and other positions. >> there was no endorsement here of biden. none! this was a call to the revolution to continue. you heard what bernie said, he
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wants to continue to collect delegates so he can drag the party platform even further to the left. if bernie's ideas were as mainstream as he claims they were, why isn't he the democratic nominee? >> laura: yeah! this is, like, go to the barricades moment. this isn't, i'm going to go quietly in that good night. no way, raymond. what else? >> the bernie bros, they are already making a list of demands. seven groups demanding that biden give the medicare for all, forgive students death, demolish i.c.e., he's in trouble. the lane is open for biden, but he's already drifted far to the left on gun control, taxation. but given his base and campaign performances and how malleable he seems to be, he may go even further. here he is with his wife jill at a recent town hall. i wish she'd stop staring at people's podcasts', laura.
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>> thanks for joining us and we are happy to see all of you. >> am i supposed to say something now? hi, every body. great to see y'all. you have really great podcasts. >> you know you're in trouble when biden says you've got great looking podcasts, he's all over the place. waiting to be prompted by his wife above his own speech to his supporters. this is choreographed to the end degree. i don't see how he remains a competitor. i really don't. >> laura: i've got to say, the president was so magnanimous and biden back to them on their combo about the pandemic and president trump said it was a really warm and wonderful conversation. kind of like what you'd have with your grandfather during the pandemic. even though they are only five years apart. it was kind of very nice, i enjoyed it. raymond the, to be fair, though, to be fair here, biden's vision
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for elections during a pandemic, pretty clear. watch. >> we cannot let this -- we've never allowed any crisis from the civil war straight through to the pandemic of 17 -- all the way around, '16, we've never let democracy play second fiddle, we can both have a democracy, elections, and at the same time correct for public health. >> law iraq, could you diagram that sentence for me? i'm interested in that. you need a wall or two to do it. last night he was on cnn contradicting himself in the same sentence! >> the coronavirus is not his fault. he's the commander-in-chief. he should be taking full responsibility. >> he's not responsible, but he's the commander in chief, he is responsible. unbelievable! >> laura: i like that chris cuomo in the black t-shirt. he looks like he's doing well. i'm happy about that.
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biden's memory lapses are now fairly common, so common that it's better to just admit to them, raymond. i think we can't take that away from him. here is another clip from last night. >> we are going to get the election results within another week or so. after this, i forget the date. kellyanne conway, i don't know, i never met, 4-5 -- >> there is no thing biden has no problem remembering, this is a podcast who did >> we enjoyed you did it in michigan and sharing your fig newton fitting down the putting with us. >> he remembered the snacks. that's something. >> laura: that can happen. those little tidbits, memories with taste and the sound? that is retained.
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>> i have to share this with you before we run out of time. as we know, larra, the cdc recommends americans wear masks in public. some democratic leaders might need instructions like chuck schumer. here he is walking outside. chuck needs to know the mass can go over nose, chuck, not beneath the nose. >> laura: sheila jackson lee? >> she is touching her face repeatedly. this is not good. they are exposing themselves to more disease. anyway. >> laura: all right, raymond. be safe, raymond. part two of my exclusive interview with attorney general bill barr is next. and get food that they can't afford. (sorrowful music) - [announcer] there is an emergency food crisis for elderly holocaust survivors in the former soviet union.
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>> laura: now more of my exclusive interview with attorney general bill barr. >> bill gates, the gates foundation are in favor of developing digital certificates that would certify that individuals, american citizens, have an immunity to this virus and potentially other viruses going forward to then facilitate travel and work and so forth. what are your thoughts from a civil libertarian point of view about these types of what some would say tracking mechanisms that would be adopted going forward to reopen our broader economy. >> i'm very concerned about the slippery slope in terms of continuing encroachments on personal liberty. i do think that during an emergency, appropriate reasonable steps are fine. >> laura: a digital certificate to show who has recovered or tested recently or
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when we have a vaccine with people who have received it, that's his answer and i read it on and ask me anything. >> i would be a little bit concerned about that and the tracking of people. generally going forward over a long period of time. >> laura: are you surprised how wildly partisan a response to this pandemic has become in the united states? i know everything is political, but this is about saving lives and saving the broader life of america. and yet from a drug like hydroxychloroquine which has been around for 65 years, 70 years, working with democratic governors quite welcome while it never seems to be good enough. >> very disappointing because i think the president went out at the beginning of this thing and was really statesmanlike, trying
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to bring people together, working with all of the governors, keeping his patients as he got these snarky gotcha questions from the white house media pool. the stridency of the partisan attacks on him has gotten higher and higher and it's really disappointing to see. the politicization of decisions like hydroxychloroquine have been amazing to me. before the president said anything about it, there was fair and balanced coverage of this very promising drug and the fact that had such a long track record that the risk were pretty well-known. as soon as he said something positive about it, the media has been on a jihad to discredit the drug. it's quite strange. >> laura: concern given the length of time, the concern when you hear dr. fauci say we probably cannot go back to normal life until a vaccine, 12
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months, 18 months, if things don't open up pretty soon over some gradual reopening with new protocols and all of that, there's a concern of social unrest. you see a lot of stores boarded up in san francisco, chicago, st. louis, you see more of that. small businesses affected by theft and criminal activity. how concerned are you about the social unrest and criminal activity in an ongoing shutdown? >> i think if we extend a full shutdown, that's a real threat in some of our communities. i don't think it's limited to that. i think the president is absolutely right. we cannot keep for a long period of time our economy shut down. it means -- cancer researchers are at home. a lot of the disease researchers who will save lives in the future, that's being held in
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abeyance. the money that goes into the institutions whether for philanthropic sources are government sources has been reduced. you will have a weaker health care system if we go into a deep depression. just measured in lives, the cure cannot be worse than the disease. we think of everything else. generations of families who have built up businesses. for generations in this country. and recent immigrants who have built up businesses. snuffed out. small businesses that may not be able to come back if this goes on too long. we have to find after the 30-day period, we have to find a way of allowing businesses to adapt to the situation and figure out how they can best get started. that's not necessarily instantaneously going back to the way of life. >> laura: people are going to be afraid to go out for a long period of time. maybe they will know not people need tohave confidence ts
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decently safe out there to move around. >> that's why they need to be given accurate information. but also we have to make ppe more broadly available. restaurants have to change their protocols, perhaps, or other businesses. >> laura: can't stay in business if they can't pack it in. that's how they make money paying these jacked up rents. >> that's the danger. i think we have to allow people to figure out how to get people back to work and keep their customers and workers safe. i'm not suggesting we stop social distancing overnight. there may come a time or we have to worry less about that. i don't know where that would be. >> laura: one question i did not before. federalism, states rights, the president has been very clear on that in this health crisis. are you surprised that certain states, new jersey in particular, had come in to say that gun stores are nonessential, gun shops are nonessential, but abortion
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facilities are essential? given what we are facing? >> i'm not surprised or that's where our politics are these days. obviously the federal government agreed that gun stores are essential. >> laura: and abortion facilities in texas deemed nonessential by the government, the lieutenant governor very strong on that, that saw a lot of legal challenges. >> i think he just got upheld. >> laura: do you perceive that continuing, those type of challenges going forward? against what is essential in a crisis? >> again, after this period where we had very strong restrictions in place, hopefully there won't be a need for those kinds of distinctions to be made. >> laura: do you think that people will take benevolent approaches? the left is clearly trying to use this to reshape american society. never let a crisis go to waste? now we are into climate change
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policy, massive wealth redistribution, disparities in health care, that's what all these democrat politicians are not talking about going forward. >> yeah, i'm concerned about that. >> laura: how does this change your daily life? i mean, it changed every body's lives, never live through anything like this. just personally reflect on it. >> i still come in most days and we sit at the conference table very spread out when we need a meeting. we do more by telephone and by a group teleconference and videoconference then have befo before. >> laura: do you take your temperature as you come in? >> i take my temperature. i'm tested occasionally at the white house when i'm going in to see the president. you know, we are starting to wear more -- as ppe becomes more available beyond health care industry, we are wearing more
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ppe. >> laura: will you wear a mask going out in public if you just had to go to the grocery today? i know you don't go to the grocery store, but if you had to go to the grocery store, mr. attorney -- >> i wear a mask and security detail wears a mask when we going every morning and go home and frequently i will wear it here in the office. i didn't think you would let meet down like me wear it on the show. >> laura: may be if there was a little design? >> a smiley face. bill mr. attorney general, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> laura: if you thought that was all. no, a lot more. and what we haven't shown you yet, we will give you a sneak peek next.
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>> laura: all right, it's time for the >> time for the last bite. we will hear more from william barr tomorrow night but here is a sneak peek, he tells me what he thinks about the russia hoax. >> the president has every right to be frustrated because what happened to him was one of the greatest travesties in american history. without any basis they started this investigation of his campaign and even more
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concerning is what happened after the campaign, the whole pattern of events while he was president so to sabotage the presidency, i think or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency. >> more with william barr at 10:00 pm. that's all the time we have tonight. shannon bream in the fox news at 19 take the developments from here. shannon: thank you so much. capitol hill scrambling to fill billions more, republicans accused democrats are playing politics with america's economy. wait until you hear what senator john kennedy has to say in minutes. welcome to fox news at night. kevin cork kicks us off with talk of a nationwide surveillance plan that could track covid-19 cases to help the federal government plan the recovery but this raises privacy concerns. >> it is starting to come down and one person said easter is

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