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and animal care and control in philadelphia. >> greg: saved her from philadelphia. set your dvrs. >> jesse: watch it. >> greg: "special report" is up next. hello, bret. >> bret: hello, greg. good evening. i am bret baier. breaking tonight, a new month of what's some fear might be the new normal for some time with president trump making an ominous prediction and a new report suggesting that the worst may not be over. the president telling fox news during a virtual town hall last night at the lincoln memorial the death toll from the coronavirus pandemic could reach the grisly milestone of 100,000. we have seen models be wrong before but a new model saying 3,000 deaths per day by june. that model. john roberts starts us off. speak of the coronavirus models are like the models that predict hurricane forecast tracks. they are often widely divergent and almost always changed.
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but one dire forecast leaked today from a federal agency is drawing particular scrutiny at the highest levels. the white house today pushing back hard on a interagency report from fema that shows in the next month the number of coronavirus deaths could rise to 3,000 per day in the number of infections could rise to 200,000 per day from the current 25,000. in a statement, the white house saying this is not a white house document, nor has it been presented to the coronavirus task force or god through interagency vetting. this data is not reflective of any of the modeling done by the task force or the data that the task force has analyzed. fox news is told that dr. deborah birx has seen the report in disagrees with the projections. two important model showed the forecast getting worse. the centers for disease control now predicting a total of 100,000 deaths in the next few weeks. the institute for health metrics and evaluation now forecasting
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nearly 135,000 deaths, almost double the previous estimate. our fox news town hall, president trump taking notice. >> we are going to lose anywhere from 75,000, 80,000, to 100,000 people. it's a horrible thing. we shouldn't lose one person over this. it should've been stopped in china. it should've been stopped. but if we didn't do it, they minimally would've lost his 1.4 million. speak of the new forecast reinforced the split in america between people angry about continued closures in those angy about reopening. >> i think you can satisfy both. if you're scared, you can statement a little bit and you can watch it. but a lot of people want to go back. they just want to go back. you see it every day. you see demonstrations all over the country. >> even as the new projections show more pain and economic uncertainty ahead, president trump remains bullish in the prospect of a widely available vaccine in record time. >> i think we are going to have a vaccine by the end of the year. the doctors would say you
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shouldn't say that. i'll say what i think. >> the administration increasingly pointing fingers at china for letting the buyer is out. a senior intelligence official telling fox news that as many as three quarters of the 17 intelligence agencies believe coronavirus escaped because of a mistake at the wuhan institute of virology. secretary of state mike pompeo. >> i can tell you there's a significant amount of evidence that this came from that laboratory. >> china firing back at the accusations today insisting that pompeo is "insane." president trump backing his secretary. >> personally i think they made a horrible mistake and they didn't want to admit it. >> the new modeling for the institute for health metrics and evaluation does show a substantial difference between the fema report on the number of deaths per day. the ihme puts it at 890. at the same time the fema reports that suggest it would be 3,000. while that seems to be somewhat promising news, the ihme does push back the timeline for
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decline by a couple of months. now saying it's going to be august before we get to the end of the line here. with this current pandemic. >> bret: john roberts live on the north line. thank you. florida is reopening under phase one guidelines tonight. corresponded phil keating is in key largo. >> for the first time in six weeks, a taste of normalcy returned to most florida restaurants. in person dining at tables inside is allowed again but limited to 25% capacity. james carlisle jumped at the chance. >> it feels nice. you get kind of tired of take-out food every day. they do have the best breakfast in town, so it's a no-brainer coming here. >> in the florida keys and most of the state, phase one of the states reopening began monday morning. that includes retail businesses being able to let customers back
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inside and make some sales. also at 25% capacity. also green-lighted for phase one, elective surgeries. social distancing remains in effect and masks continue to be encouraged. still closed our schools, bars, gyms, spas, salons. people are still not allowed to visit their elderly loved ones at nursing homes and assisted living facilities. florida state parks are open again as are most of the states beaches. clearwater beach today, good amount of people return to the sand, surf, and sunshine. authorities are enforcing proper spacing between beachgoers. the major exception of phase one are the south florida counties with half the states coronavirus cases and deaths. palm beach, broward, miami-dade. open marinas brought huge numbers in long lines of voters this weekend. florida's governor says reopening will be slow, steady, and smart. >> it's not going to happen overnight but i'm confident we can get there, so everyone just
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hang in there and do your part. >> sundowner's here in key largo also taking advantage of phase one reopening just in an hour ago. as for statewide numbers, florida's now approaching 37,000 positive covid-19 cases and 1400 deaths. a week to week data show that testing is increasing. daily new positives are edging downward, and daily death totals appear to have plateaued. bret. >> bret: i don't know if they are social distancing at that tiki bar behind you. phil, thank you. california democratic governor gavin newsom says some businesses will be allowed to reopen as early as friday. businesses into more northern california counties reopen today in silent defiance of the governor statewide stay-at-home order.
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the county followed last week's lead behind another county in pressure to reopen. s&p 500 finished ahead 12. nasdaq jumped 106. senators back in washington tonight have brought with them strategies for the next round of government assistance to those impacted by the coronavirus. that's not all. some are hoping for. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel tells us. >> we are going to show up for work like the essential workers that we are. >> the senate is fully back in action for the first time in more than a month. yet it is anything but normal with social distancing and face masks. many staffers still working from home. some are uncomfortable with being back in session. >> the republican leader is called the senate back into session despite demonic of the district of columbia appears to be reaching the peak phase of this public health emergency. >> battle lines are already being drawn for the next major
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coronavirus response package. with democrat signaling they expect massive relief for cash-strapped states and local governments. >> i have talked about almost a trillion dollars right there. this isn't about any other budget issues for states. it's about the coronavirus, revenue loss. >> republicans say they want liability protection for small businesses and first responders to prevent a flood of lawsuits. g.o.p. leaders sent $150 billion to the states as part of the $2.2 trillion care is act and say that the next round should not be about bailing out states and cities that were already in trouble with massive pension liabilities. >> why should texans have to pay higher taxes to bail out states who won't live within their means? i think it's wrong and unfair. >> democrats have warned without more assistance state and local governments will be forced to lay off critical personnel. the treasury secretary says more flexibility with federal funding is being offered. >> states can use the money for
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policemen, firemen, responders, without limit so we can make sure that none of those people who've been fighting the front lines in any way are impacted by the states having lower revenues. >> some key republican leaders say they want to allow some time to study the impact of nearly $3 trillion in emergency spending was some very different ideas about what's next, it was human next coronavirus package will take some time before there is a deal. bret. >> bret: all right, thank you. many small business owners say the pandemic has destroyed their revenue. aid from congress is helping some while others fear they may go under. correspondent matt finn talked to business owners in chicago. >> in chicago at 8:00 p.m. every night, people cheer and flashlights for frontline workers. one of the only signs of life in america's third-largest city where 70% of small businesses say they have been significantly
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impacted by the pandemic. one fifth report a loss of nearly all revenue beginning in march. >> rear used this whole display case full. the phones -- >> teresa close the firs first r two bakeries in march, 100% lost revenue. now she's running her second-story on her own. sales have plummeted 60%. >> i had a manager work for a couple days, but then there was just no traffic whatsoever. >> today all nine employees are laid off, including shanice. unemployment is paying roughly half of her usual income for now but she has anxiety about the future. >> if i don't get my job ever, is on a planet going to still help me? >> this barber shop owner has been in business for 50 years. >> hey, how are you? no, we're closed. >> his busy shop has been shuttered now for nearly seven weeks. >> coming here and nobody here,
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it feels empty. >> and air force veterans jim is also empty for the first time in four years. classes stopped. his personal training is limited to video. >> it's been devastating. my wife is a small business owner as well. she owned a salon. we ended up having a close the doors there so obviously that crippled us. >> the national restaurant association estimates that 15 to 20% of restaurants won't survive. despite the overall growing business outlook, the majority people that we talked to say they are trying to remain optimistic. bret. >> bret: matt finn in chicago. thank you. let's get some inside information from one of president trump's top economic advisors. kevin joins us from the white house. thanks for being here. i want to start where we leave off with matt about small businesses. the ppp program, the second tranche of money. is it true it's about 60% burn
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through as of today? >> burn through is kind of a harsh word but yes, it is going through at a rate about like that and i think at last count that i heard, it was about 3.8 million loans gone out. the vast majority was 70% have been less than 50,000 which means that it's going to small businesses. i think the ppp program is working really well right now. it's getting money out there but you're right, the burn rate that you're seeing, it could well be that it has to be renewed at some point in the near future. >> bret: we talked about this with the president last night a little bit about, you can't stimulus your way out of a problem like this and it's more about demand and how do you stimulate the economy on that side? what are the thoughts inside the white house? >> you're exactly right about that but i think what we think is there's two stages. the first stage is that we've got to build a bridge to the other shore and the second stage is that we've got to make sure that we really prosper and take
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off and make the economy great again once we land. i think there right now we've had three massive, massive stimulus is which were basically designed to get us to the other shore and we are kind of in wait-and-see mode because we are watching to see if we get there or whether, as mentioned, we might have to add to ppp. i think we have a lot of ideas that we have discussed with the president about things that we can make better so that people are optimistic about the long run and i think it's premature to go for a big long run fixed like the president's mentioned infrastructure, till we are sure we are on the other shore or most of the way on the other shore. right now we are it and i think that is the states open up, one of the things that we have the economic team are doing is we're watching what's happening to economic activity. what's happening to incomes? we are seeing some reassuring things, the sense that loans have kept businesses afloat, a big majority of the
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people who filed initial claims for unemployment insurance where short-term or furloughed workers so they can go back right away so there are some signs that even though it's the biggest negative shock any of us have ever seen, that our economy can survive it and come back even stronger. >> bret: we had some questions that obviously we didn't get to last night from verizon across the country. pat is with a maryland towing company. she had a question for the president. i will give it to you. >> hi, i am pat. we would like to pose a question to you, sir, that if there's any way that we can have a detailed two-year small business organizational recovery plan starting next week for people like us and hopefully for people like our customers. rate increases, regulatory issues. >> bret: basically she's asking, is there a plan?
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is there a long-term plan? the small businesses can't get their head around how far they can plan down the road with the money that they have or that the money that they are not bringing in. >> i think the question was exactly right. of course there's a plan. in fact there's more than one plan. so what we are doing right now is we are thinking about if the virus lingers a little bit longer than we hoped and the ppp loans start to run out, that will run out of money here and we have to kind of extend the construction of the bridge to the other shore than we have to plan for that but if we actually think we can move on to the next step about how to make the economy great again, then we are working on a plan for that too. there's the document making its way around the white house that has a lot of the president's top thoughts about what we can do to make the country and economy as great as it was in january. one other thought that's important and that is that it's kind of remarkable to think
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about the fact that we've had this terrible terrible economic shock and terrible human shop but here w we are going into may and i haven't been the wave of bankruptcies that we could've seen a lot of people are sort oo work and revive the economy i think one reason why we been able to withstand to this point the worst shock ever is that in january we had the best economy ever. so balance sheets were doing fine. lots of people were employed, banks were on sound footing. so i think we came in with a very, very strong economy, the strongest economy ever and i think that's one reason, that's the big blessing that made it so we can survive until now but absolutely we've got a plan. we are going to show it to folks soon. right now we are in wait-and-see mode to see that we don't need more stimulus before he, with our next plan. >> bret: two quick things about the ppp. i have heard and looked totally
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from small business owners -- anecdotally, relationships of big banks. they got the loans with a bent outback, they are smaller. they say basically take it or leave it and it's only about a week and half with the money for some of these businesses. have you heard that? that some banks are kind of tightening the amounts to small businesses? >> i have not heard that but i'm grateful that you asked me the question because as soon as i get back to my office i will call secretary mnuchin. our intent is that we provide the capital until the economy opens up again. that was the intent of the program. it was cleverly designed and implemented to perfection by secretary mnuchin but it doesn't mean it's perfect. his emblem as it fermented as well as government can do so for sure i will look into that. >> bret: last thing very quickly. this is about the checks going out to individuals.
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a number of people send checks that say deceased on them. some family member who has died a year ago, they get the check and it says decd. it's as if the person is deceased, send it back. is that a big issue? >> it's not an issue that i have been briefed about. if that's happening, then it's something to think about. what they doer of courses they work off tax files and since the last tax returns could have been the last one someone filed, and there might be an issue with that but it's not one i have been briefed on. >> bret: okay, kevin. appreciate your time. thank you for the cleanup at the end. up next, the nation's highest court makes history because of the coronavirus. first here's what some of our fox affiliates run the country are covering tonight. fox 26 in houston, one police officer was killed and another
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seriously injured in a helicopter crash saturday morning. a35-year-old was upgraded to critical condition. jason knox died of his injuries. fox 10 in mobile, alabama, plans to restore passenger train service along the gulf coast. members of congress from mississippi say the federal railroad and administration has awarded just under $5.5 million to support operating costs for the first time, three years of the amtrak service. it stopped after hurricane katrina damaged tracks in 2005. q13 fox in seattle, so-called murder hornets from asia found in state. have you seen these? the first sighting in the u.s. the hornets are big and they can wipe out bee colonies within hours and have stingers long enough and powerful enough to puncture beekeeping suits. this is a live look at miami from wsvn, the big story, the
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♪ >> bret: it's pendant dayo first set the u.s. supreme court, the first time audio of the court's arguments was heard live by the world and the first arguments by telephone. all it took was a global pandemic. correspondent david spunt shows us. >> for the first time in history, the supreme court's public chamber empty but the business of the high court continues via telephone. >> we will hear argument this morning in case 1946, united states patent and trademark office versus booking.com. >> an intellectual property case debated remotely without any of the justices or attorneys able to see each other. at times there were a few
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technical glitches. >> justice sotomayor r. justice sotomayor are? >> i'm sorry, chief. >> today's audio stream was streamlined to the public, also breaking the longtime tradition. unlike the usual free-for-all questioning, the justices spoke one at a time in order of seniority. today a rare moment by justice clarence thomas who once went for a decade without asking a single question during an oral argument. >> justice thomas. >> yes, could booking acquire an 800 number? 1-800-booking for example? >> like many entities that i will learn to work remotely, one attorney who has argued in front of the court 21 times can only imagine the challenge. >> it's going to be a bit of a chaotic situation i would think because the justices are extremely active. >> the court occasionally allows
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same-day audio from oral argument in high-profile cases like bush v gore 20 years ago that was tape delayed, not truly streamed live. >> i always thought the court was doing itself a disservice by not just having live video and i think the court would be pressing to people if they could see how well-prepared they are. >> don't expect cameras in the courtroom anytime soon here. the justices will be back at her tomorrow on the telephone for the next week hearing cases about the presidents financial records, also the electoral college. the term for the supreme court is expected to go through the end of next month. >> bret: david spunt. up next, joe biden being urged by democrats to get out of his basement. first beyond our borders. millions of people allowed to return to work in italy today after europe's longest lockdown started to ease. countries from iceland to india took a patchwork of steps to loosen coronavirus restrictions.
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businesses including hairdressers in greece and restaurants in lebanon opened their doors under new conditio conditions. south korea is protesting north korea over an exchange of gunfire inside their heavily fortified border. south korea says several bullets fired from the north hit one of its frontline guard posts sunday before south korean troops fired 20 rounds of warning shots in response. it was the first shooting inside the demilitarized zone in about two and a half years. israel supreme court heard arguments against the legality of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's coalition deal with former rival benny gantz. it happened today after the court deliberated within the longtime leader could have a government. while indicted on serious crimes. family of the british teenager who was killed when his motorcycle collided with a car driven by the wife of an american diplomat is said to receive documents it believes will expose a cover-up by the british foreign office. harry dunn died after he was struck by vehicle going the
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particularly imperative for the presumptive democratic nominee. >> joe biden continues to try to campaign well quarantine. >> i'm going to keep speaking out. >> clips like that aren't getting enough traction and now the architects of barack obama's wayne's right about biden's online speeches from his basement won't cut it. pronouncements on this issue or that may have won pronouncements but will get little now. broadcast interviews are fine but only valuable if they generated a great and memorable line that rick becomes a widely shared video moment. the biden campaign consumed by trying to locate any record of tara reade's complaint to figure out what she said in 1993. now she tells ap the main word i used and i know i didn't use sexual harassment, used uncomfortable. i remember retaliation. but where's that record? if it's the national archives it could be under the control of the secretary of the senate but
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the secretary of the senate explains senate legal counsel advises the secretary has no discretion to disclose any such information. the biden campaign wants to know, is there anyone such as the complainant to whom such records if they exist could be lawfully disclosed? is the campaign does damage control, the party is pressing ahead. >> do you still expect to hold an in person convention? >> president trump is also itching to get out of the house. >> may be able to pull it off with baseball or football or boxing or basketball. you can't pull off a rally. it wouldn't work out too well. hopefully we will be able to do rallies in the next couple months. >> just one of joe biden potential running mates now has supporters with the group registered at the fec whose members think they've come up with a clever way to push someone who's already lived at the white house for eight years, somebody biden himself has said he would pick in a heartbeat. they have formed the committee to draft michelle obama.
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bret. >> bret: we shall see. peter, thanks. let's get some thoughts from senior political analyst brit hume. good evening, brit. i want to get your brown thoughts on the race right now at the beginning here. where it stands. obviously everything has been shaken up by coronavirus and the economy. the health situation. where do you think the race stands today. >> i think it stands about where it's been. trump's opponent is ahead. the president is fighting an uphill battle. his approval rating has ticked up in recent days as it does from time to time but he still basically underwater in his approval rating. that will burden him all the way until november. vice president biden may be stuck in his house but i think they are premature in their worry, after all he is still
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running for the party's nomination. he's basically got it locked up. the campaign in earnest doesn't begin until at least labor day so we have a long way to go before we start worrying about whether biden is out of sight or not making news. i'm not sure he needs to this point. it's all going to be about the president. it will be a referendum on the president i think it will be a referendum on his handling of the coronavirus epidemic. >> bret: i want to ask you about this tara reade allegation. i've heard you speak that we may not know the end result of wear and goes but one thing raised eyebrows this week and that of "new york times." to investigate tara reade's allegations, democratic national committee should move to investigate the matter swiftly and thoroughly with the full cooperation of the biden campaign. any inventory should be strictly limited information about ms. reade conducted by a an a political panel put together by the dnc. what do you think of that? >> [laughs]
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when i first heard about it, my -- i thought it was not true. it is true. it's like almost nothing i've ever seen before. it's beyond parity the leading newspaper would suggest that the presumptive nominee of a party to be investigated by that party. you know, that tells you as much as anything ever could about the state of the mainstream media in america today and it's absolutely amazing and i know that at least some of the democratic side are walking away that idea. that's not going to fly. tells you a lot about the state of our media. >> bret: thank you. the pushback against coronavirus restrictions by the faith community. n't be a new thing. and it won't be their first experience with social distancing.
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♪ >> bret: for millions of americans, yesterday was another
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sunday without church services. some of the faithful are now expressing their righteous indignation against the government. here is correspondent doug mckelway. >> famous for its ponies, the island on virginia's eastern shore has been thrust into a different spotlight because of a palm sunday church service. >> we only had 16 people in the sanctuary that seats almost 300 people. they were very far apart. >> in the service ended, police handed the pastor a summons punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2500 fine. all because the state believes the service violated virginia's stay-at-home order. in a suit filed by the church the plaintiffs notice that parking lots of nearby retail businesses were crowded. virginia offers quote no good reason for refusing to trust congregants who promised to use care and worship in the same
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way. in a news conference today governor ralph northam indicated churches will be included in virginia's phase one return to normalcy. >> we continue to believe that the governor's authority was both prudent, necessary, and constitutional. we look forward to the fourth circuit confirming. >> the church hopes the court of appeals overturned the lower court ruling. >> we have no intention to withdraw the lawsuit until he clearly complies with the first amendment. >> attorney general william barr war the department of justice will examine stringent state farm orders. >> if we think one goes too far. >> liberty counsel which were presented the virginia church won injection in kentucky. similar lawsuits are underway in california, and in illinois. bret. >> bret: doug mckelway in virginia. thank you. a group of house republicans is
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♪ >> anywhere from 70,000, 80,000, 100,000. that's a horrible thing. it should have been stopped in china. if we didn't do it, the minimal lot of losses 1.2, 1.4 million. we think we are going to have a vaccine by the end of this year and we are pushing very hard. >> bret: president trump at the town hall talking about the possibilities of a new vaccine by the end of the year. quicker than many experts believed. now you have some new projections coming out. the fema projections approximately 200,000 new cases each day by june 1st, up from 25,000 daily cases now. around 3,000 deaths per day by june 1st.
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nearly double the current level, around 1750. obviously models have been wrong before. that's one model that's raising some eyebrows. let's bring in the panel, matthew continetti, a.b. stoddard, and chris stirewalt, politics editor here at fox news. matthew, your thoughts on what the president said last night and some of the focus on the numbers today. >> i think president trump used his town hall with you to move toward a more positive message stressing the economic recovery in order to kind of pivoted forward and rather than look behind at some of the terrible news that's been coming our way for the past few months. the problem is in this new normal, there's a timeline between opening up states and any spike that there might be in the transmission or cases. three weeks. so i feel we are going to be entering a period of stop and
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start and it's important to allow the states and localities a lot of discretion. to make sure the most vulnerable populations, seniors in particular, remain secure from the disease. >> bret: we should point out that the white house coronavirus task force and dr. birx does not get on with these new models. they don't sign onto that. they don't believe it. this is the model they have been following. this is the ihme director. take a listen. >> our numbers are nowhere near that level on june 1st. the number of deaths we have on june 1st i believe is 890. this relates to very much to whether or not you think, or the models think there is going to be a large, you know, essentially new york style type epidemic in some states that
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would drive up very large numbers of deaths like that. >> bret: this is the challenge, a.b., for these governors to make these decisions based on the numbers they are sitting on the ground now as they loosen things up, what that looks like. >> right. bret, right now what the experts are saying is that we are simply treading water. the social distancing has helped a bit but when you pressed the president last night and you asked how do we inject demand into the economy when people are still afraid, he literally said the best thing we can do is get rid of the virus, before he went on to talk about other things which usually sounds like an optimism reference, hope is not a plan. the only way to get through this is testing and tracing. the testing can be left to "the federalist" model where the governor with the most tests wins and is able to open up the economy sooner but tracing is
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going to have to be a national program and is going to have to require the federal government. as long as the president is not talking about that, the longer we are going to put off the stop and start, the stabilization before another spike in all this uncertainty about how businesses can actually reopen it have customers who come that aren't terrified. i was supposed to be in georgia on wednesday for a trip. if i got there and got sick knowing when i got there not knowing if i was infected in maryland or georgia and i tested positive, would they pay for it? were they isolate me, with a pay for it? this cannot be handled by the states. the longer this discussion is put off, the more lives will be lost in the longer we tread water. >> bret: chris. >> president trump is a very good salesman and he's very good at talking about good news of the good news that he sees just beyond his election.
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we heard the shift in frame or he had talked about previously that things were going to be good before the election. now he says after the election, we'll have a vaccine. after the election next year, we'll have a robust economy but it's going to be okay so he's acknowledging that the move -- the move here. his real problem, the real danger for this administration's missed expectations. i think voters will forgive easily all of the politicians and all of everybody who didn't understand how things were in february. a lot of people didn't understand how things were in february and models were confusing. with this administration simply cannot do is raise expectations repeatedly for good news and good things that are about to happen and not deliver. voters will punish harshly for that. >> bret: all right, matthew. here is the president on payroll tax cuts. seems like they are fighting tooth and nail on this. >> i want to see payroll tax cut on both sides, very strong one. it's really going to put people
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to work. we are not doing anything unless we get a payroll tax cut. it's so important to the success of our country and to the following year because i think the following year has a chance to be one of our best years. >> i would go one step further. let's talk about a payroll tax rebate that would actually help businesses cover payroll right now. it would give them incentives to rehire the workers that they've had to lay off right now. let's get that money into the hands of businesses so we can get into the hands of employees. let's do it fast. >> bret: matthew, there's a lot of things floating around. doesn't seem it's going to move very quickly up on the hill. >> this cares bill, probably some of the most significant legislation that congress will pass in a while i think if president trump wants his payroll tax cut or senator hawley's payroll tax rebate, the bargaining chip there is state bailouts that nancy pelosi wants. so if there's going to be any hope of compromise which is not something that you hear much
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about in washington these days, it is trading a payroll tax cut for the bailout of the state governments, red and blue, that are sorely heard by the coronavirus epidemic. >> bret: you know, a.b., i have 30 seconds. they are trying to trade some tort reform tied to protecting the legal issues that business owners may face with customers filing lawsuits. >> right, and democrats are going to make the case during these negotiations that it's an explicit acknowledgment that people are going to be sick and be in peril in these reopen businesses. the payroll tax cut doesn't help the unemployed. the initial program to send checks to everyone didn't help keep enough people employed. layoffs beget layoffs and now the payroll tax cut, sort of a do-or-die measure for trump, it's just not going to cut it. too many people are out of work. >> bret: we'll follow it. panel, as always, thank you. when we come back, the brighter
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that is at four "special report." fair, balanced, and unafraid. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. doesn't feel the same of us were in a linking memorial. >> martha: that was a pretty amazing venue and now we are back in the basement. hopefully we can get back to the lincoln memorial and lots of other places soon. good to see you. thanks so much. ♪ good evening, everybody. i martha maccallum and this is be 20 "the story." dr. scott atlas whose attention-getting peace "the data is in" stopped the panic. a story that has been one of the top trending stories on the website for over two weeks. now another call to the nation for the use of medicine and logic. he's essentially putting out the call to the country saying there is another way to go about this. what happens when that call a