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stay tuned for "late night with seth meyers. goodnight, everybody [ cheers and applause ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers. tonight -- jon hamm author and comedian julio torres a performance from broadway's "six: the musical, featuring the 8g band with ulf mickael wahlgren ♪ [ cheers and applause and now, seth meyers >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night. how's everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause good to hear in that case, let's get to the news president biden spoke from the white house on tuesday and asked when the country will be ready to stand up to the gun lobby
when we will that's like your landlord saying, "ooh, you got to do something about these mice." [ laughter ] the white house announced -- has announced that the k-pop group b.t.s. will appear next week with president biden because the white house is always looking for ways to make biden look even older. [ laughter ] i mean, look at that that's like a korean remake of "scooby doo. [ laughter ] "i would have gotten away with it if it weren't for these pesky kids and their catchy hooks. [ laughter ] georgia republican senate candidate herschel walker said in a new interview that he's never heard former president trump say that the 2020 election was stolen from him. even more troubling, he also said, "who is this herschel walker i keep hearing about? [ laughter ] that's right herschel walker said that he's never heard trump say that the 2020 election was stolen, which is kind of like saying you've never heard flo talk about progressive. [ laughter ] i've never heard her talk about anything else. representative
marjorie taylor greene won this week's republican primary in georgia's 14th congressional district but just for fun, she's going to storm the capitol anyway [ laughter ] it's a celebration storm msnbc announced this week that former white house press secretary jen psaki will host a new streaming show. well, let's hope white house to nbc goes better than nbc to white house. [ laughter ] a romance novelist -- alright. [ laughter ] no one rememb -- i don't remember what show that was. it could've been on any network. [ laughter ] a romance novelist in oregon who wrote a book -- excuse me. a romance novelist in oregon who wrote a blog post titled "how to murder your husband" was convicted yesterday of killing her husband. [ laughter ] in case you're wondering how far you have to go to get someone to read a blog post [ laughter ] according to a new survey, 41% of americans said that their largest single monthly expense is rent or mortgage, and one said dinosaur skulls
[ laughter ] amtrak this week released pictures of its new acela trains, which will feature contactless restrooms. walking down one of those is like walking down an old rope bridge [ light laughter ] and finally, a plaster cast of the late singer jimi hendrix's penis is set to be unveiled next month at the phallological museum in iceland, which houses the world's largest display of penises. it costs adults $10 to enter, while members get in free. [ laughter ] he wrote -- he writes in my voice. that's what i like about him you guys, that was a monologue how are you feeling? [ cheers and applause you guys, we got a great show for you tonight. you know him from "mad men" and
"the town. i know him is one of my favorite "snl" hosts and a friend he's in "top gun: maverick," which is out tomorrow. jon hamm will be here. [ cheers and applause it's been too long since my friend jon's been here you guys, another friend is here as well. you know him from his writing on "snl" and his show "los espookys. his picture book, "i want to be a vase" is out june 7th. julio torres will also be joining me [ cheers and applause and this is fantastic. we're going to have a performance from "six: the musical," which has been nominated for eight tonys this year, including best musical. it's now playing at the brooks atkinson theatre on broadway but before we get to all that, amid a national outcry for stricter gun safety measures to stop america's plague of mass shootings, pro-gun politicians who refuse to take action are pitching an insane alternative instead of getting rid of guns, they want to get rid of doors. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪
[ cheers and applause >> seth: this should be blindingly obvious to anyone with clear eyes and a conscience, but america has more mass shootings than any peer nation in the world because we have more guns than any other peer nation in the world study after study after study has proven that, although i'm not sure we need a study to confirm what we can all see with our own eyes it's common sense. common sense to everyone, apparently, except for the craven ghouls who refuse to even acknowledge america's gun crisis in fact, those guys have a different idea for stopping mass shootings. just get rid of doors. >> we have to harden these targets so no one can get in ever except through one entrance maybe that would help. maybe that would stop someone. >> one of the things that everyone agreed is don't have all of these unlocked back doors. have one door into and out of the school and have that one door, armed police officers at that door. >> seth: i'm sorry you don't want gun control, but you want door control? are you -- are you insane? why not stop at one?
why not just outlaw doors altogether then no one would need keys. to get into your house, you just have to climb up to the roof and slide headfirst down the chimney. you really -- you really think one door is a good idea? then how about you try it first? one door for the senate, and you can all line up to go in every day, which ted cruz might not think is bad but is a [ bleep ] nightmare for whoever has to stand next to ted cruz [ laughter ] "you know, this one-door thing was my idea. can we not [ light laughter ] just spitballing here, but maybe run this idea by a fire marshal first and see what they have to say about it, because famously, nothing bad has ever happened when there's only one way in and one way out of a crowded building can you imagine what would happen if someone in an office, say, with only one door yelled fire or worse still, "ted cruz is in the break room." [ laughter ] these obviously aren't serious ideas. they're pathetic excuses from the most depraved people in our politics who would rather do the bidding of powerful forces like the n.r.a. than do anything to stop these massacres from happening
in fact, cruz and donald trump, among others, are still scheduled to address an n.r.a. event in texas on friday these people would rather talk about door control than the obvious answers that have worked in other peer nations across the world, from australia to the u.k. to norway to new zealand, and that's to regulate guns. and by the way, when we've done it here, like the 1994 assault weapons ban, it worked, too. we have too many guns and they're too easy to get, and it's as simple as that and it's sickening and rage-inducing that people in positions of power just ignore those obvious truths, no matter how loud we say them, which might be why beto o'rourke, the democratic candidate for governor in texas, interrupted a press conference yesterday to tell texas governor greg abbott directly in a way that abbott could not ignore that something must be done now to stop these horrific events from happening again. and cruz, who was there as well, cannot help but respond while displaying an astonishing lack of self-awareness. >> texas gubernatorial candidate beto o'rourke interrupted governor abbott's press conference, saying yesterday's shooting was "totally predictable" and talking to reporters afterward blaming abbott for refusing to
strengthen gun laws. >> excuse me sit down >> you're out of line and an embarrasment >> sit down and don't play this stunt. >> seth: i'm sorry, ted cruz is accusing someone else of pulling a stunt. it's the same guy who read "green eggs and ham" on the senate floor, released a campaign ad where he used a machine gun to fry bacon, and posted a video of himself lurking in the bushes at the rio grande like he was auditioning for a role on "duck dynasty" [ laughter ] he looks like he's being filmed for a nature documentary on the bbc. "a rare sighting of the bearded coward, indigenous to these parts until he makes his annual flight south for the winter. listen [ laughter ] listen to the sound of his rolly suitcase across the linoleum which experts say is his way of telling predators, 'i suck, i suck if you eat me, you'll probably puke.' and then in a pretty stunning exchange, ted cruz is confronted by a reporter for sky news about why these kind of horrific events only happen in america.
and since cruz had no answer aside from the obvious one, he doesn't want to discuss, guns, he angrily stormed off >> is this the moment to reform gun laws >> you know, it's easy to go to politics >> but it's important. it's at the heart of the issue >> i get that that's where the media likes to go. >> well, it's not. it's where many of the people we've talked to here like to go. >> you got your political agenda >> no, it's honestly - >> god love you. >> senator, it's not i just want to understand why you do not think that guns are the problem. >> why is this just an american problem? >> it is just an american problem, sir >> mr. cruz, why is america the only country that faces this kind of -- >> you know what >> mass shooting >> but you can't answer that you can't answer that, can you, sir? you can't answer that? >> why is it that people come from all over the world to america? because it's the freest, most prosperous, safest country on earth. >> it may be the freest, it may be the most p -- >> why are kids dying in schools? >> seth: man, look at him, run away i bet he was thankful that place
had more than one door [ laughter and applause "they got more --" cruz had no answer because the obvious one, the number and easy availability of military-grade weapons in this country, is one he doesn't want to discuss in his case, he's choosing the ludicrous idea of door control as a distraction but in other cases, pro-gun republicans just admit they don't want to do anything, like when colorado congresswoman lauren boebert tweeted yesterday, "you cannot legislate away evil" or when texas attorney general ken paxton said this >> we can't stop bad people from doing bad things they're going to violate murder laws, they're not going to follow gun laws. i've never understood that argument >> seth: "laws don't work" is a hell of a thing to hear from somebody whose job description is to make or enforce laws [ laughter ] at least -- at least the weirdos in the new age store believe that the $40 crystals they're selling actually work. [ laughter ] by the way, they don't either that, or i'm sitting on them wrong also, stop hiding behind the bull [ bleep ] talking point that calling for gun control is somehow politicizing tragedy and
that there's nothing lawmakers can do first of all, you guys are the ones using politics to loosen gun laws second, what else is politics for if not to deal with a crisis like this? that's what our political system is supposed to do. you're a lawmaker. if you don't want to do your job, then just go back to the [ bleep ] bushes to live with the other bigfoots [ laughter and applause "hello, fellow bigfoots. i'm ted cruz." [ growls ] "um, bigfoot need door to get away from this man." [ laughter ] this is why it was so cathartic for so many people to see someone just directly confront the people in power who refused to take action because so often they behaved as though they can simply ignore it they act like they don't have to care what we think or how we feel like they're totally immune from accountability and public opinion. and that's because this is a political party that sees itself as insulated from public accountability and popular opinion. i mean, measures like background checks and assault weapons bans, which should be the bare minimum, are massively popular across political lines and yet pro-gun politicians and the powerful interests behind them simply do not care.
they think democracy does not apply to them. that's why they want to cheat in elections and dismantle democracy on guns or any other issue. they just do not see themselves as accountable to public opinion. i mean, for god's sake, we just found out yesterday that on the day of an attempted coup to overturn an election, the outgoing president reacted approvingly when he heard the mob was chanting "hang mike pence." trump's former chief of staff mark meadows reportedly told colleagues that trump had said, "maybe pence should be hanged," and somehow, we're all supposed to just, like, move on from that i saw that headline yesterday, let out a long sigh, and then just had to keep scrolling then i did -- i will admit i did laugh a little, thinking about some time in the future when pence tries to be diplomatic to appeal to trump's base and says something like, "president trump and i don't always see eye to eye. for example, i thought hanging me was a bad idea. [ laughter ] "different strokes." this is, of course, the same guy who famously tried to steal the election in georgia by shaking down the secretary of state like a mob boss
so after that attempt failed, trump quickly developed a vendetta against georgia's statewide republican officials, including the guy on that phone call, secretary of state brad raffensperger, and governor brian kemp and by the way, neither of these guys are secret liberals raffensperger has supported voter suppression efforts in the state, and kemp is such a rock-ribbed conservative, he once aired this actual television ad. >> i'm brian kemp. i'm so conservative. [ explosion i blow up government spending. my chainsaw is ready to rip up some regulation. i got a big truck, just in case i need to round up criminal illegals and take them home myself [ audience ohs ] yeah, i just said that >> seth: cool. he's got the same slogan as a [ bleep ] standup comic and thinks he's being edgy by telling jokes about how millennials are pampered "oh, yeah, how about instead of whining about student loans, you stop spending $12 on avocado toast? yeah i just said that." [ light laughter ] also, where'd you guys go for
that kick-ass explosion? steven seagal's house of discount special effects [ laughter ] i maybe -- i maybe - [ laughter ] sorry. i forgot i have to do steven seagal's voice. we're going to edit this out we're gonna go to full frame, and it's gonna come right out like i knew what was coming. [ laughter ] i remember i just said steven seagal and -- [ laughter ] don't break. [ laughter ] shh. no, no, no shh. it has to -- no, it has to feel really real. [ laughter ] "i may be above the law, but my prices are below the competition. [ laughter ] and yet -- and yet because kemp and raffensperger refused to commit election fraud and single handedly overturn the results, trump pursued personal vendettas against them by recruiting and endorsing primary challengers who embraced his big lie it's the same thing that happened in pennsylvania, where a pro-coup candidate who wanted to overturn that state's results in 2020 is now the g.o.p. nominee for governor there only in georgia, trump's plan didn't work.
going into the election, kemp's challenger, david perdue, was already down double digits despite trump's endorsement, although he refused, of course, to accept that reality >> you are down by 30 percentage points in the polls. what's happened to your campaign >> well, first of all, where'd you get the 30 points? >> fox news poll >> right where'd they get it from >> are you not down 30 points? >> no, no. hell, no, i'm not down 30 points >> seth: in a way, he was right. currently, he's down by 50 points. [ laughter ] "hell, no, i'm not down 30 points. i wish!" [ laughter ] "i'll give my right arm to be within 30 points you see that guy i'm running against? got explosions, a chainsaw, a big old truck. i wish i was that guy! instead, i'm a big old drip. [ light laughter ] the republican party and the gun lobby see themselves as immune to democracy and public opinion, which is why they don't care that large majorities of people want stricter gun safety laws. they think they can just brazenly ignore voters and still hold on to power by cheating that's part of why this all feels so frustrating and infuriating and rage-inducing.
these people don't think they have to care what we, the american people, want. but as we discussed at length yesterday, other countries and our own history have shown us time and again that we can change things. we can stop these horrors. we have that power it hasn't always been like this, doesn't always have to be like this pro-gun politicians and the entrenched special interests behind them could try to ignore us all they want, but we must keep at it, whether it's calling one lawmaker or making one donation or knocking on -- >> one door. [ laughter ] >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause we'll be right back with jon hamm, everybody! ♪
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emmy award-winning actor you know from his work on "mad men" and movies such as "the town" and "baby driver." he stars alongside tom cruise in "top gun: maverick," which opens in theaters may 27th let's take a look. >> captain pete "maverick" mitchell your reputation precedes you >> thank you, sir. >> wasn't a compliment i'm admiral beau simpson i'm the air boss i believe you know admiral bates. >> must admit i wasn't expecting an invitation back >> they're called orders, maverick you do have something in common. cyclone here was first in his class back in '88. >> actually, sir, i finished second just want to manage expectations >> seth: please welcome back to the show, our good friend, jon hamm [ cheers and applause ♪
>> seth: hi! >> howdy >> seth: it has -- it's been forever. it's really been forever i used to see you all the time, and then the last time you were here was for the finale of "mad men" in 2015, which is nuts >> seven years ago >> seth: seven years ago >> yeah, and nothing has happened since then. >> seth: nothing has happened since then that's the thing, we would've brought you back, but the world is absolutely the same before we talk about "top gun: maverick," which i'm so excited about, alexi and i, we rewatched "mad men." i feel like that was one of those pandemic shows did you hear from a lot of people >> i got a lot of nice texts of, like, "hey, finally got around to watching your show. [ laughter ] it only took a global pandemic like, "nice. okay, thanks." >> seth: and they were, like, also in 2021 we made it through the first - the first year of the pandemic, we didn't do it. >> did not well, they had to get through "sopranos" and "breaking bad" and then "the wire." but no, it's always a pleasant thing to get when somebody says, "oh, i really like your work." >> seth: and i will say, it holds up so well
i mean, i think it's -- like, period things have this ability to hold up because it was already -- it took place at a different time >> yeah, in a different world anyway, so it's -- but, yeah, you know, i'm very proud of that show it was -- i worked on it for the better part of a decade. >> seth: yeah, and alexi and i loved watching it together it's such a beautiful show about marriage >> yeah, really. >> seth: everything it says is so wonderful >> really brings couples together >> seth: so, we were talking backstage. we are of a similar age, where the first "top gun" was a formative film, a seminal film >> a seminal experience, not just a film. >> seth: right going to see it in the theaters was a huge deal. >> i've described it as like the definition of cool for 15-year-old me in the midwest, and i'm sure for you in the northeast as well, it was just like, well, that's -- "oh, that's what cool is. >> seth: yeah. >> sunglasses, volleyball, aircraft >> seth: yeah, everything. >> those three things. >> seth: yeah. a lot of people are like, "wait, that was what was cool in the '80s?"
>> yeah! sunglasses, volleyball - >> seth: yeah, and two out of three of them still are! [ laughter ] not gonna say which. >> volley and ball [ laughter ] i feel like there were a lot of volleyball movies in the '80s, though >> seth: there were. >> right, "side out," anybody? >> seth: "side out" was -- >> and that's it >> seth: yeah, "side out." the other crazy thing about this movie is it was -- you filmed "top gun: maverick" in - >> 2018 and 2019 >> seth: so that's a long time ago. >> a long time ago, and then it sat. it was meant to come out in 2020, and then the world had different plans. and we had to sit on it for two years, basically, and no one could see it >> seth: and sit on it because there was a real sense that it was going to be important to see this in theaters >> yeah, big and loud. that was a tom cruise mandate, which we were very happy to support because it was -- it really does play as a theatrical, as i said, experience like, you feel this movie right in the chest it's amazing >> seth: you get to -- we saw a little in the clip you kind of get to be a thing that i don't think a lot of people in real life get to be,
which is a little bit mean to tom cruise >> yeah, a little bit. >> seth: i don't think anybody talks to him the way you talk to him in that clip >> no. >> seth: yeah. >> the fun thing is that it's scripted >> seth: yeah. >> and believe it or not, he might get the upper hand in the end. >> seth: yeah, he might. you know what? i think he even knew in that clip he might. >> it seemed like he did it was like, "i read the rest of this scene, and i'm going to be okay." >> seth: this isn't my first tom cruise movie i think i know how this ends [ laughter ] i've heard a lot of interviews, a lot of the cast. you do not play one of the pilots who flies >> no. >> seth: who all did flight training did you feel like you were missing out on an element? >> they had to do 4 1/2 months -- months >> seth: yeah. >> of preparation and training for that, some 60 hours of being in a cockpit and being in a cockpit is not comfortable in the best-case scenario >> seth: right >> it's really not comfortable when you're covered in your own vomit and going around and around and pulling all the gs and all the blood's leaving your head so, i was very happy to leave my shoes on the ground. i got to go on an active aircraft carrier, the u.s.s.
theodore roosevelt, america's big stick. [ laughter ] it's literally -- it says it on there. >> seth: yeah, that's great. >> you can't make that up. >> seth: that's great. >> and it was impressive it was impressive. it was impressive to see the scope of all of that, but also just the -- what the men and women in the u.s armed services, especially the navy, go through and sacrifice every day. it was a real impressive thing to see firsthand >> seth: i think we all see it often in a wide shot, and it must have been really cool to be up close >> yeah, and terrifying, by the way, because you realize you're on a boat that has two working nuclear reactors on it >> seth: yeah. >> and so, you're like, "what does this button do? "no, no, no, no! >> seth: they shouldn't -- that button shouldn't be out. >> it shouldn't be out >> seth: shouldn't be out in the room they bring the actors in. >> no, there should at least be, like, a weird cover you have to flip over it >> seth: there's also -- there is a volleyball scene -- >> volleyball adjacent >> seth: volleyball adjacent >> yes >> seth: you were not -- but shirts -- a lot of shirts off. >> a lot of shirts off
not this guy >> seth: not this guy, yeah. very well done >> this is what 51 years on the planet teaches you >> seth: they're like, "we're going to get you in the boardroom. >> exactly tie, button it up. you know, shiny shoes. >> seth: but that -- i mean, talk about 4 1/2 months in a cockpit. i saw shots of those guys, that'd be like 4 1/2 years >> yeah, yeah, yeah. i -- the topless scene - "topless." that sounds weird already. but the football, volleyball, the sports scene - >> seth: yeah. yeah it's about sports, you guys! >> beach sports. >> seth: beach sports, okay? get your head out of the gutter. >> yeah, come on i not only left my shirt on, i have loafers and socks on on the beach. >> seth: there you go. >> so i am full granddadding it. >> seth: we saw it a little bit there. as call signs go, i remember that was the thing when we talked out of "top gun" when it came out - >> maverick, goose, slider, jester
>> seth: jester, yeah. >> yeah, it was amazing. everyone had a cool one. >> seth: and you got a good one, cyclone. cyclone is great >> cyclone is good it's an emoji. that works >> seth: yeah. >> no maverick emoji >> seth: there's no maverick, yeah [ laughter ] by the way, i get a sense if tom cruise hears that, there just might be. >> there's gonna be a maverick tomorrow >> seth: and also, like, it's just gonna be him. [ laughter ] >> i wouldn't put it past him. >> seth: yeah, i thought a lot personally about, like, if i - what would - >> i bet you -- i could come up with a couple good ones. right out of the gate -- frisbee. >> seth: frisbee as a call sign? >> yeah, frisbee >> seth: i don't know. frisbee's okay i think frisbee shows -- like, yeah, there's something fun about frisbee. >> it's a beach sport. >> seth: it's a beach sport. it's a beach sport they say -- it's weird, they say, "keep your t-shirt on." [ laughter ] >> doink >> seth: doink >> doink would be a good one for you. >> seth: i don't know if doink -- i would feel less, like -- i would feel bad making my colleagues have to say,
"cover me, doink." >> cover me, doink [ laughter ] although if you ever went down, "my doink fell off" would -- >> seth: yeah, my doink fell down doink is down! >> we got doink down [ laughter ] >> seth: anything else what else? i want to pick one i will pick one. you got some >> i've got a bunch. >> seth: okay, great >> i actually, i told your writers to come up with a bunch. >> seth: oh, no. [ laughter ] >> oh, there's a list. >> seth: okay, great >> cyclone's friend. [ laughter ] >> seth: i don't hate it i don't hate it. >> b.j. novak. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's not a call sign! [ cheers and applause you can't say b.j. novak yeah, okay >> sea captain that's a good one. >> seth: okay, sea captain, i don't mind -- see, i mean, it's a little counterintuitive when you're in the sky. >> true. [ laughter ] and then stewardess. >> seth: stewardess? [ laughter ] i'm going frisbee. i'm going frisbee. >> thank you >> seth: alright, you guys that's jon hamm. "top gun: maverick" is in theaters friday. we'll be right back with julio torres [ cheers and applause ♪
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♪ >> seth: our next guest is an emmy-nominated writer and comedian you know from his work on shows like "saturday night live" and "los espookys. his picture book "i want to be a vase" is out june 7th. please welcome back to the show our friend julio torres. [ cheers and applause ♪ >> seth: julio, how are you? >> i'm good. how are you? >> seth: i'm so happy you wrote this book. yeah, that's real. [ cheers and applause >> seth: you've described this as a coffee table book for kids, which i think is a lovely -- a lovely -- a thing that kids -- nobody has that for kids yet [ laughter ] >> yeah, like sometimes i go to living rooms and, you know, they
have the coffee table books on, like, seashells and a madonna coffee table book, but they don't have one of these. >> seth: yeah, this is great why did -- so, these are inanimate objects, are the characters in the book you have a plunger, a vacuum cleaner. and the plunger wants to be a vase what made you want to write a kids book where the characters were objects >> well, i don't know. i wanted to find something unusual. i didn't want it -- i didn't want to write a book about, like, a little bear or like -- >> seth: okay. now -- [ laughter ] i don't know if you know, i just -- i just did that. [ laughter ] >> which -- which is why - like, 'cause the bear book bar was set so high. >> oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> so, i felt like, you know, pick -- pick your track. >> seth: yeah.
>> yeah, build your own. i'm not gonna have like, what, "late night with julio torres" no you know what i mean >> seth: right, exactly. i think why we're such nice friends is we're on different -- we're on parallel tracks, not the same track >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: it's really cool that you did that thank you. >> yeah. [ laughter ] a friendship in tv makeup 90% of the time >> seth: yeah, exactly should be noted. i think you can all attest that we're friends, because you've seen most of our interactions. >> exactly, yeah, yeah >> seth: but why did you choose to make a plunger your hero? >> well, you know, i was trying to think of what the scrappiest object would be, and i was thinking about the hierarchy of objects. and if you are a plunger, it's safe to say you're at the bottom of the totem pole. >> seth: yeah. >> because no one -- no one's happy to be using a plunger. which is why most of them are so poorly designed, i feel like, 'cause everyone's just like -- no one's -- no one's excited that they're gonna use a plunger. >> seth: no one's looking at it when they're using it, even. >> no, they avert their eyes >> seth: they would see the design flaws more, but you're like, you're right
>> imagine having a job where people were like, "just get it over with. >> seth: and then the villain is a vacuum cleaner i mean, as much as an object can be a villain but the vacuum cleaner sort of believes you should not want to aspire to be a different object. >> well, yeah. i don't think that vacuum is a villain so much as vacuum is trapped in a cage of vacuum's own making [ laughter ] i don't -- i don't think that vacuum is, like, "oh, i'm gonna be villainous. i think that vacuum just, you know, watches a lot of fox news. [ laughter ] but, yeah, vacuum doesn't like the idea that objects can be whomever objects choose to be.
and again, i was thinking, it should be a vacuum because it's like, if you are a vacuum -- if you're an object and you're a vacuum, that is one of the most cutthroat object industries there is because it's like, if you're a vacuum cleaner, you're constantly worried you're gonna get replaced because there's always like a faster, better vacuum cleaner out there >> seth: yeah. right, if you let it slide just a little bit - >> if you let it slide just a little bit, you're out of there. it's sort of like a -- sort of like wall street people. >> seth: yeah. >> or like corporate people who are, like, "well, i wake up at 5:00 and go to peloton and then i go to work, and if you don't make as much money as you do, that's your problem. >> seth: that's a vacuum, yeah >> yeah, that's a vacuum [ laughter ] it's very, like, okay, like, your life is all efficiency. that's great for you, but some of us want to be vases
>> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: it really is a beautiful story. i can't wait to read it to my kids i also want to congratulate you. i know you're very busy. >> yeah. >> seth: and i'm happy you did this because, you know, what you were just talking about -- sometimes people are too busy and they don't find other people to help them out, but you just hired a social media manager >> y-yeah. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] i guess they have been posting a fair amount on your socials to let people know they - >> right i -- i'm giving her a chance >> seth: okay. >> she's -- she's struggling a little bit, but yeah >> seth: is her name piralina pina-pina? >> no, her name is pirulinpinpina seth: okay [ laughter ] pirulin-- okay, pirulinpinpina yes, and here she is this is a photo of herself she just posted. can i read what she just said? again, i get why you're maybe a little frustrated with her she wrote, "let's get this monday right."
>> it's not monday >> seth: right [ laughter ] yeah, so, right off the bat -- >> so, like, the attention to detail already >> seth: yeah. and also the hope that she wants to get it right, and right away it's wrong that's bad "let's get this monday right." right off the bat, wrong "i am pirulinpinpina yes, and i manage socials for julio currently. in this post, you will find much product for you to consume much love to little consumers. be happy." that's bad, yeah >> yeah. she -- she calls my fans "little consumers" - >> seth: yeah. >> which, there's a beautiful honesty about that, right? 'cause it's like she's like -- >> seth: yeah, they're just product, right >> let's not pretend that we don't live in a capitalist society where art is product, right? >> seth: yeah, yeah. >> no, it's like, "oh you wrote a -- you made product. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] so, at least it must be nice because that allows you to maybe be a little bit more artistic, knowing that she's going to really drill down and try to sell your product. >> well, the problem is then
friends are like, "did you see what she just posted she should take it down. >> seth: oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. that's stressful >> and then i'm like, "girl, why are you commenting about war like, take it down." but yeah, she's very overwhelmed. she's like this big, so i understand why she would be overwhelmed. >> seth: i mean, she does look like someone who's pretending not to be overwhelmed, but you can -- i feel like if you have a good eye for expression, you're like, "oh, she's over her head." >> she's, like, always manic and, like, you'd think that, like, "oh, julio's gonna be on 'seth,' he has a book to promote. you'd think that she'd be here, but then she was like, "oh, my cousin's wedding, it happens to be that day. and, like, okay. and then she just texted me saying, "my bad, my cousin is already married. [ laughter ] "can i still come? and i'm like, no no no, don't come >> seth: she forgot her cousin was married? >> she was like -- i think that tomorrow she'll realize whose wedding it was
>> seth: oh, i see so, there was a wedding. >> i think there was a wedding i think she maybe, like -- she probably doesn't even know them, like >> seth: she just read a wedding announcement somewhere this is -- i'm sorry about this. i'm so happy about the book, and it's really, really nice to have you back on the show thank you so much. >> thank you for having me >> seth: you guys, that's julio torres [ cheers and applause "i want to be a vase." here it is one more time it's out june 7th. we'll be right back with a performance from "six the musical. [ cheers and applause ♪ nerd i just haven't been feeling myself lately. i've been trying to find a better way to save my money, but i keep dragging my feet. oh, sorry. oh i'm out. what a surprise. you know at nerdwallet we have side-by-side comparisons of top high-yield savings accounts. that way you can make the smartest decision and get the most out of your money. ah, that's incredible. how'd you do that?
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