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tonight, america is slow! plus stephen welcomes dr. sanjay gupta, featuring jon batiste and "stay human." and now live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, it's stephen colbert! ( cheers and applause ) ( theme song playing ) >> stephen: whoo! whoo! whoo! whoo! whoo-hoo! whoo! whoo! whoo! oh, my god! whoo! oh, my goodness! oh, i should not be this tired! hey, everybody! thank you! please, sit down! jon, good to see you. >> jon: yes!
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from a distance. >> stephen: joe, happy thursday. welcome to "the late show." i'm your host stephen colbert. ( cheers and applause ) huh-oh, huh-oh. ( piano riff ) as you may have noticed, none of you are here right now. only people in the audience -- give a shot of this -- only people in the audience are some members of my staff. hi, guys. ( cheering ) i'm going to sit down over here. okay. ( piano riff ) how are you, jon? >> jon: i'm good. >> stephen: good. yeah, me, too. >> jon: how are you? >> stephen: i'm very excited to be doing a show tonight. >> jon: i actually don't know how i am. >> stephen: what do you mean? >> jon: well, you know, the virus, i don't have symptoms. >> stephen: exactly. >> jon: which is the reason we don't have an audience. >> stephen: because we don't know what's going on. two things to keep in mind, you don't want to be part of the
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hysteria. >> jon: right. >> stephen: but you also want to act with an abundance of caution. >> jon: that's right. >> stephen: we don't know on this side of it. we kind of know how much hysteria we could produce if we wanted to. >> jon: right. >> stephen: we don't know if this is a feather or a brick. >> jon: right. >> stephen: around the world, this seems to be a brick, so we went with brick. there you go. ( piano riff ) how's the show going so far? >> jon: it's moving. ( laughter ) >> stephen: let me explain what's going on. all the new york city late night shows are planning to go without audiences starting monday. we announced that last night, actually. that changed because, just a few hours ago, we got some surprising news, we would be going without an audience starting tonight. this is absolutely true. we're just kind of winging it. this is rehearsal right now, which might be a good thing, because, in my mind, all of my jokes are perfect. the only person that ever disagrees with me is the audience. can't disagree with me now, can you? ( laughter )
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ha! look, i just got a laugh! ( laughter ) i've done a show without an audience before, back before "the late show" started, we did a secret show in a small michigan town called monroe, michigan. there was so much scrutiny on our first show that we decided to get out of up to and get the show out of the way by taking over a public access m called "only on monroe." i'm sure you saw it. it was sort of gorilla marketing. i tonight say viral marketing because we will never be using that phrase again. >> jon: yeah. ( laughter ) >> stephen: here's something -- the most breaking news for me is when i learned that, because to have the coronavirus, all of broadway was shutting down tonight. that's another reason we don't have an audience. it's a little sad because the broadway shows had already been working on new precautions to keep the audience safe. here's footage from last night's rehearsal of "westside story."
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♪ ♪ >> oh! i need some purelle! ( laughter ) >> oh, man... >> stephen: right now, i'm imagining your laughter. >> jon: yeah. >> stephen: last night, we learned that the n.b.a. has suspended its season until further notice, so congratulations to the new york knicks, it's the best thing to happen to them all year! ( piano riff ) ( laughter ) >> jon: get a sip in! >> stephen: you know what i watched today? >> jon: what's that? >> stephen: i watched steve stlen, you know, the guy who started the original "tonight show" at the hudson theater down the street. after that, there was the steve allen show. he was playing piano while jack
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karoak read "selections from on the road." that's what these shows used to be. >> jon: wow... > stephen: and can be again, thanks to coronavirus. ( applause ) if all that news wasn't unsettling enough, last night we also learned tom hanks has the coronavirus. hey! coronavirus! okay, yeah! you can shut down italy, you can shut down south korea, you can destroy our economy, but keep your filthy nucleocapsid proteins off tom hanks! the man is an american treasure! this is like learning the liberty bell has herpes! ( laughter ) it ends now! it ends now! ( laughter ) i'm being told it is not ending now. i'm going to have to keep doing the show without an audience. ( laughter ) okay, now, moving on. >> jon: for rest, come on,
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forrest. >> stephen: i think this is going pretty well. do you guys think it's going pretty well? ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: yeah, i think so! >> stephen: now, i want you to forget -- ( cheering ) that's enough. ( piano riff ) i want you to forget the fact that i pay all those people. ( laughter ) now, even though tom hanks and wife rita wilson both tested positive, they say they have mild symptoms and are doing fine. hanks posted, with poise, i might add, as harvetion always dose, about how they're handling the problem. well, now, what to do next, we hanks will be tested and isolated as long as public safety requires. not much more to it than a one day at a time approach. no? take care of yourselves. hanx. positive message but a bummer of a sequel to "catch me if you can." >> jon: wow. wow. >> stephen: i'm guess weg put a graphic up there that would say "catch me if you can," at some point. in a real show, we would do that.
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>> this is rehearsal. >> stephen: this is rehearsal. but i'm thinking this is what we actually show people. >> sure. >> jon: huh-oh. >> stephen: they're going to be really surprised when i walk out of the building in half an hour. ( laughter ) ( piano riff ) >> oh, sure, stephen, we'll tape the rehearsal. see ya suckers! >> jon: wash that hand! wash that hand! hold on. >> stephen: what am i thinking. >> jon: got to be ready and stay vigilant. >> stephen: last night donald trump preempted all programming to address a worried nation and remind them he's the thing they should really worry about. >> we will be suspending all travel from europe to the united states for the next 30 days. these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things, as we get approval. >> stephen: people ban doesn't seem to make much sense as one former department of homeland security official put it, the virus is here in the u.s., the focus needs to be on taking action here, treating people an. this seems to be pointless.
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the virus is already here. it's like in a horror movie, somebody hearing the killer is already inside the house and responding with, oh, no, i better go lock all the doors, then i'll leave this axe on the bathroom sink as i take a shower, la, la, la, honey, is that you? come on in! loo, loo! i'm all soapy! i've got my eyes closed so i can't read the script! is it over in it's over. when wall street heard all trade was being suspend they did freaked out. here's a picture of dow futures from the moment trump's speech started to one hour later. i don't know much about finance but i do know the rule, line go down, pants go brown. okay? e.f. hutton said that originally. >> jon: oh, yeah? that's why people would listen. ask your grandparents about that reference.
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when e.f. hutton talks, people listen. that's right. i believe they are ash can at this point. an hour after his speech trump leapt on twitter to correct himself -- please remember, very important for all countries and businesses to know that trade will in no way be affected by the 30-day restriction on travel from europe. the restriction stops people, not goods. please remember, very important for all countries and businesses to know, nothing i say is true, pay no attention to the man behind the bronzer. ( laughter ) a night's sleep did not make the markets feel any better about trump's performance because right after the opening bell the dow dropped 700 points tripping automatic circuit brearkz to halt trading. i wish life that did aut jon: f.
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>> stephen: what am i supposed to do? no more purelle. i'm hoping to drink enough of this i sweat out the sterilizing. >> jon: mm-hmm. ( piano riff ) john, you don't drink at all. >> jon: no. >> stephen: you don't drink at all. >> jon: no. >> stephen: how do you calm down? >> jon: music. >> stephen: okay. >> jon: you know. >> stephen: but i don't know how to play a piano. >> jon: you can listen to music. >> stephen: try me out. you play something, i'll have a sip of bourbon and compare the calming effect. >> jon: okay. >> stephen: so ready, go. ♪ ♪ ♪ ( laughter ) ♪
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♪ >> stephen: you can stop now. ( piano riff ) ( laughter ) one of the things that had to freak out wall street was trump's body language. he had a rakish flair that can only be described as stark terror. not so much deer in the head lights as deer in the oval office. aaahhh! aaahhh! aaahhh! aahhh! oh, snap. no, don't follow me! aaahhh! ( laughter ) >> stephen: i've had a little too much of this stuff over here. because it was a trump speech, words not do good. for instance, he gets a little tripped up here. >> i am confident by counting and continuing to take these tough measures -- >> stephen: not very reassuring when the guy telling us to stay calm about a respiratory virus loses his
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breath in the middle of a two-syllable word. ( as trump ) i'm your pres i-dent. trumps remarks on camera were a disaster and his off camera marks. a moment before the speech, unaware the camera was rolling. >> do you like the book being on the desk or not? or would you rather have it not be. >> have it there just in case. maybe it looks better. gives you something up here. right? does it matter? >> stephen: way to have the right priorities. this is like that famous churchill speechch -- we shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them on the landing ground. do you like my hair slick pusard? does it matter? either way, i'm a smoke show! ( laughter ) >> jon: hmm... >> stephen: but the fun didn't
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stop there because after he finished, the cameras kept rolling. >> okay. ( laughter ) >> jon: wow. >> stephen: yeah. wow, indeed. >> jon: that's where we're at. >> stephen: that's where we're at. that is not what you want to hear attend of an important speech. and that's why i know they're going to have a long, happy life together. to karen and jon! okaaaaaay... ( laughter ) i give it a year tops! ( piano riff ) uh, we've got to take a break, but stick around. when we come back, more of -- whatever this is. right? ( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
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( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) >> stephen: everybody, welcome back! jon batiste and "stay human," everybody! give it up for the band right there! so the speech was a disaster -- a disaster! but today trump got a do-over in televised meeting with irish leader leo varadkar -- varadkar!
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bow before varadkar! i'll tell you all about it in tonight's episode of "chair chat"! trump started by explaining that due to viral concerns he and leo varadkar didn't shake hands. >> we didn't shake hands today and we looked at each other, we said, what are we going to do? you know, sort of a weird feeling. we said it at the same time. we did this. you know, i just got back from india, and i didn't shake any hands there, and it was very easy because they go like this, and japan goes like this. they were ahead of the curve. >> stephen: it's strange, bowing like that in india or japan is the respectful thing to do but seems like when trump does it, it's a hate crime. ( laughter ) trump continued to insist he could never have seen this thing what everybody saw coming coming. >> what we did in europe, this was the time. china, a lot of it came from
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when you -- when you think of what happened to europe because it was very fast and very furious -- >> stephen: it was fast, and furious, some might even say too fast, too furious. it -- started in asia but then, of course, we all saw the tokyo drift. do -- do we know the fate to have the furious? do we know that yet? the fate of the furious? no, but we do know, as vin diesel says, it's all about family. ( laughter ) hobbs and shaw. ( laughter ) ( piano riff ) never seen one of those movies. i should see all of them. i want to see all of those movies. >> jon: mm-hmm. (inaudible). >> stephen: i want to see all of those movies, because i think to truly understand this country that i love, i need to see the most successful decology ever made. nine will be the tenth? because eight was actually the ninth because hobbs and shaw is
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canon? don't fight, just give me an answer. is hobbs and shaw canon? >> yes. >> stephen: so that's the ninth. so the eighth is the ninth. the ninth is the tenth. but here's what i'm say -- and give me a shot at chris. give me a shot at chris right now, ( bleep ) da damn it! you're a cameraman! how do you know that doesn't help! >> jon: aaahhh! ( piano riff ) >> stephen: i am telling you, what is happening right now is the future of this television show! you think i'm not leaving in half an hour, you're crazy! i'm rather enjoying this right now. are you having a good time? >> yes. >> stephen: okay. have you had any of this? ( laughter ) because i have, and i've got to tell ya, i feel like a child again. ( piano riff ) making mud pies, man, anything's possible. >> jon: yeah, that's right. 38 minutes.
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>> stephen: 38 minutes? we've almost got a full show right here. tom! >> yeah! >> stephen: what do you think? anything here? can you use any of this? >> i can use some of it, sure! >> stephen: we've got 38 minutes! >> not 38 minutes-worth. >> stephen: no, how much do we need of the 38 minutes that i've talked so far, how much do we need? >> 14. >> stephen: we've got 14 minutes! come on, there's 14 minutes here! how much are we burning now? this has to be a full minute of me asking you this. >> it's going to be cut. ( laughter ) ( piano riff ) >> stephen: tom purcel and chris, everybody! ( cheers and applause ) ( piano riff ) whoo -- whoo! it's a good thing trump seems so unworried about coronavirus because a senior brazilian government official who visited mar-a-lago days ago and was in
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close proximity to donald trump and mike pence has tested positive for coronavirus. the white house says trump and pence had almost no interactions with the brazilian secretary who tested positive for coronavirus after his mar-a-lago visit and do not require to be tested at this time. a big difference between almost no intersections and intersections. what do you mean she's pregnant? i had almost no sex with her! ( laughter ) we'll be right back with dr. sanjay gupta! ( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) now there's new powerwash dish spray. it's the faster way to clean as you go. just spray, wipe and rinse. it cleans grease five times faster. new dawn powerwash. spray, wipe, rinse. and here we have another burst pipe in denmark. if you look close... jamie, are there any interesting photos from your trip? ouch, okay. huh, boring, boring, you don't need to see that.
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( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) >> stephen: hey, everybody! welcome back! folks, my first guest is a best-selling author, and cnn's chief medical correspondent, please welcome for his first
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stephen colbert interview, dr. sanjay gupta! thank you, doctor! good to see you! ( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) thank you -- thank you so much for being on here tonight. >> thanks for having me. i wish it were under, you know, better circumstances. >> stephen: me, too. appreciate it. >> stephen: but, you know, a good time to talk to dr. sanjay gupta. you're inform ago lot of people over on cnn, i see you talking with anderson many nights. >> yeah. >> stephen: you're a doctor and you have a new podcast called -- >> "coronavirus: fact vs. fiction." >> stephen: let's get into some of the fact versus fiction tonight. you talk on the podcast about the line between caution and panic, and that's certainly something we've talked about here about, let's say, when to get rid of audiences or how to do the show maybe without the staff in the building so we try
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to keep people as safe as we can, where is that line bec ate sems kind of blurry right now. >> yeah, and i think it feels different for different people and it changes. it's changed a lot over the last two months. you know, we have been covering this story in great detail for some time. people now more than ever are really starting to pay attention. i don't think it ever should cross into panic because panic doesn't serve any purposes, i think certainly from a medical standpoint. the medical establishment is having to prepare here, but i think the idea that people should be concerned enough to really start to do things with their own lives, that can help protect them, i think is real. i mean, that's within all of us at this point. >> stephen: well, let me rephrase it slightly then, how worried should we be? >> i think for the majority of people, this is not going to be something that's going to make them tremendously ill, this coronavirus. it might make them sick for a few days, they're likely to recover. >> stephen: how does that manifest it'sself? because i've heard that, for 80%
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to have the people -- and correct my numbers if you need to -- that 80% to have the people, you will have nothing or something mild. >> right. >> stephen: -- to manifest. but the 20%, it could be severe. when it does manifest itself, what is that? >> people will develop a pretty significant pneumonia. a lot of times they'll develop inname medication in the lungs. you think of the lungs as being soft sponges. when you get inflammation, they don't work as well and it's harder to breathe. initially, someone might have difficulty walking up a flight of stairs without getting short of breath. >> stephen: like running once around the audience and coming on stage. >> exactly. but you will notice changes in terms of how your body is functioning. >> stephen: what if you're in mid 50s and you're noticing changes in how your body is functioning all the time? >> you're in good shape. i can tell. >> stephen: thank you. a doctor just said i'm in good shape, honey. ( laughter )
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>> i mean, there are certain population of people i worry about. i tell you, stephen, i have been calling my parents every day. they're in their late 70s, they live in florida. it struck me, in the beginning of the gearings, the message is always 80% will be fine. i was thinking what if i'm in my late 70s and early 80s and nobody cares about me, so we have identified who the vulnerable population is here. it is elderly people and people who have pre-existing conditions like heart disease. for them, their immune system won't be able to fight this virus as well so the lungs won't be able to stay as pliable and they can eventually develop respiratory distress and need to be on a breathing machine, they need to be supported while the body tries to fight off the virus. that's happening in real time, now as i'm talking to you, in italy, in korea, in china, patients showing up at hospitals, sometimes these hospitals not having enough to take care of these patients and i'm just stunned by the
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decision-making that has to happen at these hospitals now. i have a patient here and here, both of them, i could save them, both, but i don't have the resources to do that, so i'm going to have to make a really tough decision. that's what's happening here. is that alarming? yes, it should be alarming. can it be prevented? absolutely. should we have been preparing for the last six weeks? for sure. did we? doesn't seem like it. that's, i think -- if i get panicked, it's not because to have the virus, it's because of our -- it's not because of the virus, it's because of our response to things. >> stephen: i hear conflicting stories of how this can spread. how does it spread, as far as we know? is it surfaces? is it droplets? does it aerosolize? how long can it stay on the surface? do we know? >> we do have a pretty good idea. china was the first place we really started to see this and there were large studies of 80,000 people and we look at
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that. it doesn't aerosolize like measles that attach to dust and will suspend in the air. if i had measles and left here two hours later, somewould be could come in and contract measles from where i was sitting. >> stephen: that's not the case here? >> that's not the case here. the respiratory droplets can hang in the air for a bit but typically will go to ground or a surface. so if i'm in close proximity within, you know, three to six feet, something like this, yes, exactly, it's more concerning. but the surfaces is because the respiratory droplets can land on a surface, you touch is surface, eyes, nose, mouth, and people become infected. >> stephen: should peoplenkds ow much you like the person. >> stephen: i mean, blind date? >> no. no blind dates. >> stephen: tinder? definitely not. but even before this, no tinder.
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( laughter ) i'm kidding. ( piano riff ) hearst the thing -- i think, you know, stephen, everything in life is a risk/reward proposition. i tell people all the time as a doctor, don't smoke, don't eat cheeseburgers or anything like that, but if you really want one you will do it because the risk/reward proposition is good enough for you. getting on a plane -- i'm getting on a plane tomorrow, probably -- you know, is it riskier to do things than before, perhaps. but everything is a risk/reward proposition. being in close contact with somebody, especially somebody you don't know, it's a different time right now, and i think what i'm really struck by is that never before -- and i have been doing this for a long time -- have i found a situation where how i behave so dramatically impacts your health, and how you behave so dramatically impacts my health and all the people in this theater tonight. >> stephen: not just you, but
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my behavior toward you will affect your parents in the late 70s, i'm seeing the people you know. >> that's right, these concentric circles around you, that has to be important to me. i have an obligation now, not just for my health, my family's health, but for your health and your family's health. we are co-dependent on each other in a way i've never seen before. there's an obligation now. i don't want to get too philosophical here, but i find it really fascinating in a way, if not for me -- if i don't engage in these good behaviors for me, then i should do it for you, i should do it for the people around me, and i think, hopefully, that's motivating for people to do this. i think individual behaviors make such a big difference here. i don't think people gelt it yet, but i think people will get this, stephen, i really do, because it's so important for people to understand -- i tell people to wash their hands and then, like, you're telling me in the middle of a pandemic that washing my hands, that's all you've got? do you understand how much of an impact that not only makes for
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you, it makes for me. it's becoming very real for people, i think, in that way. >> stephen: well, we don't have audience but we still have commercials. we have to take a little bit of a break. please stick around. we'll have more information about coronavirus and how you can protect yourself and your family, from dr. sanjay gupta. stick around. ( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) let's see what you win! oh, incredible! another winner! free sandwich! sign up for freaky fast rewards® and earn a free sandwich after your first order. musi♪ ladies and gentlemen shadow (featuring de la soul) ♪ get ready, y'all ♪ get ready ♪ ready ♪ set ♪ jump to the rhythm as hard as you can go ♪ ♪ keep it steady ♪ steady, ♪ to the letter, ♪ right? ♪ turn it up, we giving a show hey hey hey, what'd i miss? ♪ ready,
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( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) >> stephen: hey, everybody, we're back with dr. sanjay gupta. let's talk about you mentioned that, you know, if you are exposed to this, you might be tested and, you know, find out that you have been exposed and then people that you exposed have to be quarantined, how do you get tested? >> um -- >> stephen: have you been tested? >> i have not been tested. i don't think everyone needs to get tested. i think doctors need to make good judgment here. i don't think you want to cause panic by saying everyone should get tested. there are 350 million people. >> stephen: the president has said, last week, that there are tests out there for everyone, presently tests for everyone, they're beautiful tests, great tests, everyone who wants a test can get one today, as of yesterday, he said. is that true or false, sanjay gupta? >> it's false. >> stephen: okay. and it's sad because there are so many things that work so well with our healthcare system.
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i'm a member of the healthcare system. there are so many things that work. we fail with regard to testing in this country. >> stephen: why, though? we do have excellent medical professionals and fantastic medical technology in the united states, why don't we have a test and why did we refuse the german test? >> well, with regard to that second question, i think that's a really interesting thing. we get very provincial in the united states, if it's not stamped with a made in america sign, we tend to think of other things as inferior. things from other countries, we audiautomatically think they'ret going to meet our standards. that's not the case. those tests were good and got out there -- >> stephen: is that the test that's used in other parts to have the world? >> the world health organization adopted it and it got used in many countries. they're using it in many countries in europe. >> stephen: is there going to be a test soon that can be mass produced in the united states? >> yes, there is a test, and there has been a test, but they
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tried to scale it up and send it out to all the places. the initial test was flawed, it didn't work. they couldn't count on it giving conclusive results. they pulled everything back and said we're going to do everything out to have the c.d.c. what's striking, this week, if you go to the c.d.c.'s web site -- and we have been talking about this for six weeks, i feel like i have been screaming into the abyss, and, frankly, you get a lot of pushback on social media saying you're fear mongering, why are you being so critical, and even if you go to the c.d.c.'s web site now, zero tests by the c.d.c. on some days this week, eight tests by the public health departments. eight. not 8,000 or 8 million, eight tests tote bill our public our c healthcare system. >> stephen: and how many in south korea? >> south korea was doing 10,000 a day for a period of time. we don't have eyes on this thing. it's always described in hunting
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memetaphors, but we don't have eyes on this. even the numbers today which have gone up significantly since last week, when there were 15 cases, now there are more than 1,000 cases. i think that's a gross underestimate of what's happening here. >> stephen: let's talk about the address the president gave to the country last night. presidents rarely speak from the oval office, only times usually of crisis. >> yeah. >> stephen: last night, the president announce add european travel ban. european leaders were caught flat-footed. they were not given a heads up. they denounced it, and global stocks plunged overnight. is there value to what the president proposed? or is it the barn door is shut? >> yeah, i think that metaphor is appropriate here, stephen. i mean, people will say, what about the travel ban on china back in january? you remember, 195 americans brought in by that flight and
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then put in quarantine at that air force base, huge move. that hasn't happened in 60 years in this country. last time that happened was smallpox. it was a big decision to do this. the problem now is that there's a lot of cases of coronavirus in this country, and they are spreading in communities. so you really have to justify whwhy you would do a travel ban from countries that may have a similar number of coronavirus as we do and we don't know how many cases we have because we haven't been testing. >> stephen: as a medical professional, have you heard from the administration a rationale as to why continental europe may be cut off but the u.k. is not or south korea was not? >> yeah, i mean, they did have these level three restrictions in south korea, so they had some non-essential travel and things like that, but, no, it didn't make a lot of sense, especially given that we're talking about a little strand of rna that doesn't respect borders or
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boundaries, it travels freely all around these places. so the fact you could ash arbitrarily say this -- and china is saying we don't want people from other countries come togetherrous because we've got it under control. >> stephen: they believe they're past the peak of the epidemic. >> that's right. >> stephen: what can we learn from the chinese? >> china was very heavy handed. they were slow coming out to have the gate in november and december, but very heavy-handed. they basically had the largest quarantine ever recorded in the history of the world, 60 million people under quarantine over there, not letting people in or out, really trying to contain this virus. that's containment, which is different than mitigation, which is just slowing the spread of it. containment was the name of the game over there, something that could happen in china, and i think you saw the -- >> stephen: can it happen in the united states? wuhan was the first place they contained and the area around it. that city itself is 11 million
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people. >> right, small chinese city. >> stephen: exactly, a small chinese city. it would be the equivalent of say fog one in the new york metropolitan area can go in or go out. are we headed that way? >> i don't think we could ever do what they did in china. in order for quarantines like that to work, first of all, you have to do it early, you have to be very consistent, and everyone has to be super honest about this. in china, it was mandated. it's a different rule of law there. everyone talks about this -- the autocracy and what that really means when it comes to government, and, in many ways, there's a lot of negatives, but with this particular situation, they were able to do something that i don't think can be done in hardly any to have the other places in the world. but one thing i want to point out, they're not the only model of success. you look at singapore, hong kong upthat borders mainland china, they have had about 120 patients
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diagnosed. but a lot of ts can be done but they have to be done early. tall measures in terms of social distancing can have a real impact then. >> stephen: if you can stick around for one more act, we have to take another commercial break, but come back because we'll have more of dr. sanjay gupta talking about coronavirus, fact versus fiction. stick around. mmm. (chef) ah-hem. hvr seasoning. table 7. h[s♪x: ding]g. ♪ i don't know about you ♪ ♪ but i got to get it out ♪ i don't know how soon ♪ [sfx: chime] how much? cinco pesos vale. oh ok, thanks. [sfx: ding] ♪ but if we die, ♪ i want to bring the whole thing too ♪ ♪ ooooooh ♪ just another world that i gotta ♪
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>> stephen: hey, everybody, welcome back. we're here with dr. sanjay gupta. all the contenders -- major party contenders for the 2020 election are over 70, even elizabeth warren who just dropped out is 70 herself. >> yeah. >> stephen: should they continue to campaign? >> you know, i think it's going to have to be a different campaign if they want to be as honest about what's happening in this country as possible. >> stephen: looks like bernie and biden have cancel their rallies. >> canceled rallies. >> stephen: canceled the audience for the debate, which is on cnn. >> yeah. >> stephen: the president has huge rallies. >> look, i know he's getting guidance from really good people
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around him. i know these people, they talk to me, some of them are my sources, i talk to them on a regular basis. he's at least being told the deal with this. i mean, with rallies, you can't social distance people. people are going to be right up on top of each other. they could spread the virus. even if they don't, somebody tests positive, are you going to basically go back and try to quarantine large groups of people? people come from all over the play, and then they go back to their hometowns, how do you -- to contact trace, to figure out where this virus went, how it spread, it's such a huge burden on the public health system. it is a burden on the public health system to have rallies because of that. it's not just, you know, a possible medical issue, that's the biggest issue. but think about all the work that would need to be done if just one person, then, tested positive. it's a real issue. again, i know people that are very close to the president and within federal government are telling him this.
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>> stephen: before we go, can i give you a taste of that? >> yes. >> stephen: and is this actually effective? >> yeah, hand sanitizer, good 60% alcohol, which that stuff does, i've checked. soap and water really good. >> stephen: but a good scrub. 20 seconds. >> stephen: 20 seconds. you know what, so i do this, and you've really got to get in there like that, and then the other side. when you're a surgeon, you get up to your wrists and forearms, too. you don't have to do that here. don't forget the thumbs. 20 seconds is a lot longer than you think. i travel a lot, and i'm in the terminal rest rooms, and i've never seen so many guys being so diligent and washing their hands. so that's good. if nothing else good comes from this, we are cleaning than ever. >> stephen: remember, interlace your fingers when you wash, everybody. here's the church, here's the steeple, the entire congregation is extremely nervous. ( laughter ) >> very good. >> stephen: doctor, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you very much. appreciate it.
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>> stephen: "coronavirus: fact vs. fiction" is available daily online. dr. sanjay gupta, everybody. we'll be right back. ( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
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