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the freeman foundation. by judy and pete blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >> hello, welcome to "outside source. " we start in the.s. where president trump is not having a good day. the supreme court has ruled against him for the second time
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in a week. this after a failed attempt to stop the publication of a damming book by a former advisor. and facebook says it has taken down some of his ads for breaking policies on hate speech after they contained symbols associated with nazis and. -- nazism. and as usual, we bring you coronavirus information from across the globe, including research which suggests thousands of people died during the pandemic. and we will take a deep dive into track and trace systems as they annnce they will ditch their existing plan. welcome to thanks very much for joining us. we're going to start in america where president trump has had a tricky 24 hours. first, the supreme court has ruled against his attempt to get rid of a program to protect
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thousands of immigrants who entered the u.s. illegally from deportation. it is called deferred action for childhood arrivals. it was created in 2012 by president obama. 2017, the trump administration tried to rescinded and now the court has ruled 5-4 to uphold lower court rulings that found that unlawful. chief justice described the actions as arbitrary and capricious. this is the second supreme court ruling against the trump administration in just a week. truck tweeted, do you get the impression the supreme court does not like me? it is worth pointing out that he appointed two of those justices and that, ideologically, currently leans towards the republicans. these were the scenes outside of the supreme court earlier today. let's hear from one of the dreamers. that's the name given to the
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undocumented youths brought to the u.s. as children. >> i have had daca since i was 15 or 16 years old it has allowed me to go to college, it has allowed me to get a full-time job that could have all been stripped away had the court decided. >> we have got lots to talk about, but let's start with the dreamers. a bad day for donald trump, i suppose. a bit of an understatement, but how significant is this? >> considering that donald trump ran on the fact that you would be able to remake the federal judiciary system in a conservative image, to put conservative judges on these courts, to see very high-profile cases going against them has to be discouraging. both were obviously close decisions that involved conservative judges breaking over and signing -- siding with more liberal judges.
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in this particular case, it was decided on a technicality. john roberts said that while the president does have the power to rescind the program, the way he did it without crossing the t's and dotting the eyes, -- the i's, it violated a law that said you have to explain administrative actions and provide a grounding before you can make them. >> i want to talk about another thing on the president's mind. the trump administration is making an attempt to stop the publication of this book. is the memoirs of the former national security advisor john bolton. a judge will decide in the next woody for hours whether publication can go ahead as planned, but plenty of extracts have already been published to the press they are not flattering. john bolton says donald trump approached china's president for help in getting reelected.
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he writes, he stressed the importance of farmers and increased chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome. this is john bolton being interviewed on american tv. >> you say that you were astonished. a president for whom adding reelected was the only thing that mattered, even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation. >> i think he was so focused on reelection that longer-term considerations fell by the wayside. >> mr. bolton has also accused trump of telling xi jinping that building internment camps for uighur muslims was exactly the right thing to do. it is worth noting that the u.s. state department has said china subjects people in those camps torture, physical abuse, prolonged detention without
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trial. >> you have described the president as erratic, foolish, irrational, bizarre. he saw conspiracy's behind rocks and was stunningly uninformed. he could not tell the difference between his personal interest in the countries. -- country's. >> i do not think he is fit for the job. there really was not -- there was not really any guiding principle other than what would be good for donald trump. >> as usual, donald trump has fired back calling him a wacko. he goes on to call him a fool who wanted to go to war, happily dumped. what a dope. the president also took the rounds on american media talking up his record.
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>> nobody has been tough on china and russia like i have and that's on the record books. the last administration did nothing on either. and in terms of bold he broke the law. . as a washed up guy. he couldn't get senate confirmed so i gave him a non-senate confirmed position. >> not happy. to be clear, president trump is claiming john bolton wrote the law by publishing classified information but no court has agreed with that assessment. this is not the first time donald trump has turned on a former staffer. he has also had more opportunities than most to do so. this is a graph from an american think tank which shows the total turnover of executive staff. that is present trump's bar on the far right. there has been turnover in staff
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and 88% of positions the highest in the past 40 years. when rex tillerson said the part is bent was undisciplined and did not read briefings, the president responded by calling him as dumb as a rock and lazy as hell. president trump called his former defense secretary at the world's most overrated general and has said former chief of staff john kelly was in way over his head. the former white house press secretary anthony scaramucci has become a fierce critic of donald trump and the president is not a fierce critic of hit. -- him. >> nobody ever heard of this dope until he met me. he only lasted 11 days. >> anthony scaramucci has been talking about what is like to fall out with president. here's what he has to say. >> it is trump employment syndrome. you try to like president trump, you work for him, you experience the blowback, the insecurity,
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the litany of lies. then you start various coping mechanisms. tre were gasps when i was reading that out 88% turnover. he is trying his best to block this publication, but already, the juicy bits are out there. >> yeah, it is. that ship has sailed. he may be able to block the publication as a latched -- last-ditch effort, but with of these reports getting out, the most damaging details of the book are going to be in the public, so this not a whole lot to do to stop that. he may be dry even more attention to john bolton's book. i would be surprised if it tops the charts, partially because of what the administration is trying to do. >> i want to get your reaction
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to another development that has to do with facebook. they announced they had taken down posts from the trump reelection campaign because they violed the policy against organized heat -- hate. one complaint of dangerous groups of far-left groups destroying cities and included a red triangle upside down, the symbol for political prisoners in nazi concentration camps. what is your reaction to that and have we heard anything from donald trump on this? >> we have not heard anything specifically from donald trump. we have heard from donald trump that this red triangle is a symbol that antifa itself uses. so if this were a controversial image, they certainly did not know about it. but the significance is that it is showing facebook maybe starting to move towards regulating the trump campaign a little more.
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number when twitter took down several of donald trump's tweets a few weeks ago, facebook and mark zuckerberg came out and id we don't really get in to policing the speech of politicians, so this is perhaps a sign they may be reversing course a bit. >> thank you very much. busy day. stay with us. still to come, as the u.k. announces it has ditched its existing track and trace virus app, we have looked at how track and trace is worki or not around theorld. ♪ the singer dame verlin has died. known as the forces sweetheart, she entertained troops on the front lines of the second world war. she never retired and last month
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became the oldest artist to reach the top 40 u.k. album charts. >> i think her biggest legacy is raising the morale not only of the armed force not only in europe but the far east. also, the nation. we have struggled at a time when, in the early part of the war, the nation survival was on the line and she gave hope. she gave that resilience. if i may, she always had that spirit of chchill in a way. that strength that saw us thro some of the darkest moments of that war. ♪ >> this is outside source, live
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from the bbc newsroom. the u.s. supreme court rules against the trump administration bid to revoke immigrant support of those who came illegally as children. let's look at some of the other days news. germany has rejected what calls groundless accusations by federal prosecutors, that moscow ordered the killing of a chechnya rebel commander earlier, prosecutors charged a russian national at the victim was shot dead in a berlin park. images have emerged showing a crude weapon used by chinese forces in the fatal clash along china's disputed border with india on monday. the fight left at least 20 soldiers dead and has raised tensions between the two powers. to date, over 450,000 people
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around the world died because of coronavirus, but the bbc has found the pandemics real toll is far higher. analysis shows and under 30,000 people died en would have normally been expected if it were any o year. this is what is known as excess deaths. ecuador has seen twice as many deaths as the outbreak began with a 108% rise in mortality rates compared to other years. in italy, there was a 40% rise in the number of deaths and elsewhere in europe, figures were disturbing. 55% more people than usual died in indonesia's capital. we have more. >> a father varies his youngest son. -- barry's -- buries his youngest son.
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the three-year-old did not have coronavirus, but his parents ke you died because of it. he had leukemia. when his conditions got worse, his parents raced to the hospital. >> it was around midnight. the hospital said he needed to be tested for covid-19 before he could be admitted anywhere. another hospital told us there was not a children's doctor on duty at the quick covid tests they had were only being used for pregnant women. >>'s parents drove him to three more hospitals that night with no success. the next day, they eventually found the hospital that would accept him but he died before doctors could see him. >> i still believe that if my son was given proper treatment, he would still be alive. >> he is one of tens of thousands of people whose deaths
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being caused by coronavirus, but are still victims of this pandemic. >> since the outbreak of the virus, lots of countries are recorded morgan state usual. -- more deaths than usual. these are called excess deaths. many have been officially linked to coronavirus come as you can see here, but that still leads a huge -- leaves a huge number of lives lost which are not accounted for in the statistics. >> one of the countries we have not included in our analysis is india, because we do not have good enough data. even before the pandemic, 70% of deaths in the country were formally recorded and only one in five are certified by a doctor. so far, india has recorded more than 12,000 coronavirus deaths since the start of the pandemic that is likely only a small part.
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before you count excess deaths. here is one epidemiologist to explain one reason why the deaths in india have been relatively l. >> the deaths reported in india have actually increased over the last 10 years. has increased from 69 to around 78%. it's compulsory as far as the administration system which is mandatory for the passing of any inheritance. in rural areas, it is a nearly 20% pickup. as an epidemiologist at the university of californis angeles said, having worked in india long time, i can tell you with certainty that we are not missing numbers linked to coronavirus.
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however, there are reasons why we are having lower numbers of deaths. number one, information. number two, we are still in the late or early phase. as we move forward, we will get the numbers. currently, around 9 million deaths in india, it's approximately much less compared to that which is having 200 plus deaths. we will have increased availability of data in the future, more importantly, indians might have had cross infection with other types of coronavirus earlier. therefore, most people would have immunity from even the novel coronavirus and future examinations might reveal this. >> in russia, alth care has
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reported nearly 500 medics died after contracting covid-19. that is a huge increase of just over 100 doctors and nurses reported to have died last month. they say problems in supplying protective equipment was a continuous factor. >> after this head of the health watchdog here made the statement and talk to at 489 medical workers losing their lives, the watchdog itself backtracked and said these were not official statistics, she was in fact citing an unofficial tally kept by medical workers themselves. but even so, it's interesting this watchdog is keeping an eye on tally. even so, during this online
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conference about medical safety, the watchdog had talked about serious shortcomings, particularly at the beginning of the outbreak, talking about the dire shortage of pde, saying, was there more we could have done to prevent medical workers nine -- dying? the answer is yes, there was. there is a clear political context, that russia essentially declared victory over coronavirus. there was seen to be a stabilization in the number of cases being reported everyday and certainly the number of fatalities, specifically talking about here in moscow. that seems to be because there is a very important political date coming up. following that, a key vote for president putin on constitutional reforms that allowed him to stay in power or another to terms -- for another
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to terms. -- two terms. there are much more people on the streets, much for people opening up is very clearly linked to the political agenda. there's a lot of concern that while this is very welcome, it could very well lead to another increase in cases quite soon. >> the u.k. has announced a change of strategy in its efforts to track and trace covid-19. it has ditched its existing plan for a virus app in exchange for one created by apple and google. track and trace is of huge importance because it is seen as essential to controlling the virus. the u.k. is far from the only country grappling with how to implement it effectively. wes atkins has more. >> a new approach is taking center stage. >> tracing and quarantining. >> will have a test track and
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trace operation. >> we need that so we can open up the economy. >> but can track and trace the liver and can we trust it? time and again we have heard about flattening the curve and in most countries, it has happened. because of graphs like these lockdowns are being eased. but now attention is turning to controlling new outbreaks. the who's clear that when systematically applied, contact tracing will break the chain of transmission in -- and is thus an essential public health tool. contact tra is about countries knowing who has the buyers and who they have been in contact with. some systems are digital, some manual some are voluntary. some, such as china and south korea, are definitely not. however we do this, there are major challenges.
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one of the reasons phones being used to monitor proximity of people. the data is not always anonymous. china and south korea monitor the people who have the virus and their payment history without asking permission and have largely tracked the virus efctively. but south korea, there is awareness this approach is unusual. [speaking korean] >> scary is the word for many people. amnesty international has warned that some apps are highly invasive surveillance tools. norway has suspended the app in germany is mindful. it does not acknowledge your location, but there is a tension here between protecting privacy and how well the virus is tracked. then there is the challenge of
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getting people to sign up. if you are democracy, for most it is hard. singapore wanted most to ve the app, it got one third, and not all are using it. one senior official said there is a trust issue. australia's target has reached 25%, of its success containing covid doesn't mean any less need. the remaining challenges that you need an app that works. in moscow, a quarantine tracking app has been fining people for being outside when they weren't. australia has struggled to get bluetooth connections, and then there is england. in may, the government said people had a duty to download the app, now we are told this. >> we are seeking to get something for the winter but it is not a priority at the moment. >> and the goverent has announced is scrapping its first plan in favor of a version which collects less data, its
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reasoning is an insight into the issues around digital tracking. >> there is a danger of being too technological and relying too much on text and email and freaking out people. >> it leads to manual track and trace. in other wds, tracking done by people. it can be highly effective and that's why the highly effective countries. in england's case, remember boris johnson's promise. england's system to track the virus is anything but. in this first week, the system referred over 8000 people covid-19, over 5000 handed over contacts, and around 30,000 agreed to self isolate. it's a start, but like in many countries with high case numbers come is far from comprehensive.
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contact tracing is billed as the bridge between now and a vaccine. for all the bridges discussed, we are still in early stages of building. >> you can get in touch with myself and the team all on twitter. we would love to hear from you. stay with us, we will be back with plenty more headlines. see you soon. ♪ narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... language specialists teaching spanish, french and more. raymond james. the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you.
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