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thank you so much. thank you. so we're doing it. yes. start saying yes to your company's best ideas. we help all types of businesses with money, tools and know-how to get business done. american express open. welcome to "politics nation." an incredible week of news sparked by a new generation of americans, who are taking the lead over the debate of guns and school safety. and the russia investigation, the president's deputy campaign chief pleads guilty to special counsel robert mueller. plus, the democratic rebuttal to the devin nunes memo has been
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released, and the death of a religious leader whose counsel spans from eisenhower to trump. to say this past week was busy for this country is an understatement. but we start today with the focus on guns. i've become disturbed that in the last 48 hours there almost has been an intentional shift by the nra and the president to take the emphasis from guns and military-style rifles and weapons to other issues that should be dealt with, but it is not the focus as to why 17 people lost their lives in that school or for that matter, 59 in las vegas, and those in texas. and that is the allowing and legally allowing of the sale of military-style weapons. yes, we ought to deal with what
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the armed security guards did or didn't do, and they should be accountable. yes, visits to that disturbing young man wasn't followed up and may have prevented something, but don't use them as an excuse why this sick young man would legally by weaponry that should not be available to private citizens. joining me now is the columnist for "the chicago tribune" charles page and matt, former press secretary for senators hutchison of texas and burns of montana. and currently the president of the potomac strategy group in washington. clarence, the issue is the guns. i mean, we can go through the particulars of each one of them. let's just take the three last
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massacres under trump, but the fact is, the bottom line is, what was able to accommodate their mental illness, their ruthlessness, their murderous streak, was they had the weaponry available to them to exercise that. without the assault weapons, it could not have done the damage it did. >> well, it's the argument that has put forth by a number of people. the problem is, reverend, every effort made to simplify this issue falls apart, because americans are complicated people, the issue is complicated, and we have the highest gun ownership on the planet, almost one gun per person, and it is such a deep evolving problem that's now become like everything else in politics a tribal issue. we find urban voters tend to
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want more gun control, the rural voters want no control at all. they've been just fine for a couple hundred years without a whole bunch of controls over their weapons and the suburbanites are the swing voters. and that hasn't changed the last 20 years. the big heartbreak, of course, you had sandy hook, small children -- >> babies, babies. >> yes, and what happened after that? really nothing. that was president obama's biggest frustration, as he said, all the massacres that occurred, he couldn't do anything about it. i wrote a column before this terrible tragedy in florida, saying president trump, now is your chance to do something. you want to do something president obama couldn't do, you're in a position now to take a lead on some kind of reform on gun ownership, gun safety, et cetera. and remarkably, reverend al, he seems to have taken me up on it.
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he seems to try to move the marble. i don't know. >> let's see in typical trumpian hypocrisy, matt, one of the things he's taken up is let's put guns in the classrooms with the teachers, let's arm the teachers. but interestingly enough, he took a different view. let me show you for the first time something he, donald trump, tweeted. look at this tweet. "crooked hillary says i want guns brought into the school classroom. wrong!" this is what he said may 21st, 2016, he tweeted this. now it is right. crooked hillary, he said, was wrong. talk about classroom, bringing the guns in with the teachers. now in the face of this massacre and high schoolers leading marches and demonstrations, all of a sudden he discovers what hillary, according to him, had
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already put out there? little hypocritical, don't you think, matt? >> there is always a trump tweet that conflicts with something from the past that he's saying now. it's uncanny. but look, let's be fair about one thing. this idea of allowing teachers to voluntarily have concealed carry if they choose is, number one, not unprecedented. you have several state that is do it, including the state of texas, where 110 of our state's 1,300 school districts allow the practice. but it's not the only thing he put on the table. he endorsed bipartisan legislation to beef up background checks, which i think will pass here in the next few months. that would have prevented the sutherland spring church shootings in texas, which happened a couple months ago. >> why didn't he propose it several months ago when sutherland happened? >> that's a great question.
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i don't know the timing. i think they were trying to evaluate what happened in that situation and go forward. the cornyn bill did get a vote in the house and it passed the house, but they attached reciprocity, which is something that could not pass the senate, but, you know, the other thing he's also done, is instructed his justice department to ban bump stocks. bump stocks were used in las vegas. you mentioned las vegas -- >> but again, clarence and matt, he did not propose the ending of the bump stocks until after florida, not after vegas, where it was used. it was not used in florida. background checks he didn't come after texas, so it gives the feeling, clarence, that they are playing politics and in many ways avoiding dealing with the assaults weapon ban and protecting the nra, because everything he's proposing does not hurt gun sales or does not
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hurt the nra. so is it really trying to respond to the issue, or is it really trying to end the heat of the moment try to look as though we're doing something without really addressing the issue at hand? which is assault weapons. >> i'm shocked. shocked at the idea politics could get into governance and lawmaking. look, after the las vegas massacre, we had a pretty honest debate for about five seconds about bump stocks. the nra is reluctant to want to advocate any kind of ban, but the own nra firing ranges don't allow bump stocks. they are very unstable, they are a gimmick, and now they are very easily issued for the nra to concede on, because hardly anybody likes bump stocks, and that's one place to start. it's the same thing if you talk about the ar-15 and other specific weapons. you know, i'm a vietnam era
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veteran, the ar-15 is not something extraordinary, but it's taken on this mythology right now, which has complicated the debate. the cornyn bill is a good one. anything that does something to tighten up and regulate the gun trafficking that we do have right now is to the good. even if it encourages more gun safety, which was the original purpose of the nra. that's not good. maybe this time we're going to see something different. >> let me break in, clarence and matt. stay with me, but i have a lot to cover. i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. danny, big news yesterday with democrats releasing a redacted memo meant to push back on republicans' claims of abuse of government surveillance powers. now, what are your key takeaways from this? >> first, go back to the original home m original memo, the republican memo.
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the republican memo claimed or argued that the fisa court improperly considered politically motivated information. my position is that that memo did not raise a valid legal issue, because fisa courts and courts in general have always allowed information, even if it may be politically biased, even if it isn't perfectly corroborated, so now the latest memo -- >> as long as it has a legal premise to go forward and look into matters. >> warrants are obtained on a basis meaning law enforcement is alone with the judge and in the fisa court it's in private, so the requirement is just that they find probable cause that in this case a foreign agent is doing work for a foreign government, and they can consider all kinds of information. it doesn't have to meet the standard of admissibility at trial. so the second memo now basically says that the fisa court did act properly. legally, we always knew that.
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we always knew that, because the information considered by the fisa court was always legitimate. just because it was criticized by the first memo, the second memo, my chief concern with it, is really it is so unnecessary. it challenges a challenge to a process that was always legally sufficient. if you don't like that, you have to change the law. >> so, matt, trying to tie all this together, guns and the democratic response, the president, of course, calls fox news last night and responds to the democratic memo, which basically takes away the argument that this was some politically motivated move, but really we are chasing something that really once you catch it, you have caught nothing. it really means nothing, because i don't think anyone questioned the ability of the court to issue what they issued in the first place anyway. >> well, you know, i would probably slightly differ with
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danny. i think it's not the judge's role to evaluate or to verify the information that the law enforcement community presents in the fisa court. they are not doing research. they are looking at what's being presented and what i think was perhaps unreasonable here was to present a dossier that had not been verified. i don't think anyone is saying it's 100% false. maybe the president is saying that, but it's also not 100% true and wasn't verified at the time it was presented to the fisa court. >> warrants have never required absolute verification of the sources. they've never required an inquiry, whether talking about fisa court or state and federal courts. they've never required the judge to verify with absolute certainty the information doesn't come from a politically motivated source. frankly, warrants are often obtained using information from using cooperating witnesses or informants who have not set the standard for reliable
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information over the centuries. >> as i said -- >> all right, matt, i'm going to give you the last word on this. >> i was just going to say, i mean, there's no question that politically motivated information can be considered. the question is whether the full background for that information was fully presented. look, there are different views here between the republican and democratic sides. it's unfortunate that the intelligence committee, which has always been bipartisan and needs to be bipartisan or even nonpartisan, has divided in a partisan way. there's more we need to learn going forward -- >> we're in the weeds, gentlemen, we're in the weeds. the fact is, they said it was political, it was totally politically motivated. it was not. this preceded that. we can take care of the weeds in the green room. the public wants to know there wasn't nothing stacked here. thank you danny and clarence and matt. coming up, taking control of the gun debate. how a new generation of americans are adding on such a new energy that this country has
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the gun debate appears to have been reinvigorated with pundits and protesters suggesting that this moment in history feels different.
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because the nation's youth, those at the center of the debate over firearms and school safety, are taking their pleas for gun reform directly to lawmakers. online, on air, and at politicians' offices. these kids and their supporters have kept the story front and center, to the chagrin of the gun lobby and conservative media, which has pushed back with character assassination against grieving children and their parents. and yesterday we announced national action network and other civil rights groups are supporting and going to be a part of the march 24th march on this. joining me now is lucy mcbeth, whose unarmed son jordan davis was shot and killed by a florida motorist in 2012, and david hogg, a survivor of last week's
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shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. let me start with this, david. i've been involved for many years fighting around many cases of violence, both civilian and police, and one of the things that you and lucy have in common is survivors. i think people don't understand the human toll that families and survivors go through. this is real life. you are not an activist, you are now, but you didn't wake up one morning like i did, i want to be a civil rights leader. this is near and dear to you. you could have lost your life, and you lost the lives of your friends. explain to people how that feels, the pain and anxiety you're going through. >> there's really no way to describe the pain and anxiety that i've gone through, which is is pretty insignificant compared
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to other people at my school. my sister lost four of her best friends, essentially, and i hated being around her after the shooting, because she was constantly crying. there's just nothing you can do about that. it infuriated me that i couldn't do anything about that. what people need to realize is the real human cost here and how everybody's connected to this. even when i was getting my makeup done here, one of the makeup artists was talking about how they had their nephew gunned down at a party at college. it's undescribable, honestly, it really is. you don't know how these things will affect you until they happen to you, but i don't want this to happen to anyone else, and sadly that's why i'm trying to stand up and take action. in reality, i wish that if cameron, me, emma, if everyone else couldn't exist and still be standing up with everybody else and there was no leader to the movement, that's how i'd want it. i want this to be about these 17 individuals. when the bills are passed, regardless or not if that's in
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this congress or next, these individuals need to be the names of these laws, because they need to be remembered and they have to be if we ever want to change anything. >> lucy, this was your son, and this is something taken away from you that could never be replaced, and you turn that pain into an empowered movement, mothers of the movement, and toured this country and still do. and now you see a new manifestation with david and his classmates, but this is a real passion that is personal. a mother having to bury their child because of the lax gun laws. how as a mother are you looking at this new wave or movement around how we deal with gun safety and school safety? >> well, first and foremost, reverend al, thank you so much for asking that question, but i do want to give my heartfelt
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condolences to david and all of the friends and peers that he's lost. i am so sorry that you had to go through this, because i know exactly how you feel, and i'm so grateful to you. i think america is so grateful to you for standing up, you and your peers, and speaking out about this horrific tragedy that you've suffered. you should never ever have to live like this, and i applaud you for everything that you're doing, and i want you to know that the country -- we're standing behind you, we support you, because i understand unequivocally what you feel and how you think about what's been happening around the country. and i think it's just a tragedy, it's absolutely a tragedy, that there again, you know, the 96 people in this country every single day that are dying by this horrific gun violence, it includes children, includes children. when is this going to end? this is just morally unethical.
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spiritually unethical. this is a cancer on society. and when our children are dying in the streets, we should be crying out from the rafters about what are we going to do about this extremist gun culture. and i applaud you for standing up and moving forward to protect your own futures, david, you really are to be applauded for this. >> you know, one of the things that really was impressive to me, if you can be impressed during this kind of tragedy, is how you young people, some came to our weekly rally in harlem yesterday, reached out and said, you know, there are some communities that go through this every day. we want everybody with us to march. we want this to be inclusive. and there are those that are rumbling saying when it was happening in our communities, nobody cared. doesn't matter when. we're all in this condition now, and you have gone out of your way to reach out and say we want everybody to rally with this. we want everybody to understand
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this is a problem. >> absolutely. regardless of what socioeconomic status you have in america, this is something that disproportionately affects poor minority communities and, honestly, it affects everyone. that's the sad reality here, the fact we've had to deal with this for so long and no action has been taken by our elected officials is a testament to how broken our democracy is, it's disgusting. i can't imagine living through this every day like some communities like in chicago or places in south l.a. or places across america have to live through. it's unacceptable, but the fact it had to take something like this for something to actually happen is honestly kind of disgusting, but at least something is happening now. >> lucy, as we see this now expanding and these young people and one of the things i hope is as all of us supported, the young people, shouldn't let the older folks talk, the young people, these were their friends
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that were killed here. it was your son who was a young person. does it make you feel, despite the pain, that there's some pride in what you and mothers of the movement and others have been able to do that people may start listening even more in these chambers of legislation? >> absolutely, reverend al. anything that we have been able to accomplish in terms of bringing to light this extremist cancer on the nation is definitely a move in the right direction. as a mother of the movement, we talk to millennials and young people around the country, letting them understand they are not far removed from this violence and the fact this has happened once again is just a test to the fact this is an extreme just a cancer on society, and it has to be dealt with. no one is immune from it, and most definitely i would say is as a minority mother, a black
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mother, is that, you know, the big question is, for so long people in this country thought that it was only happening in the urban community. well, absolutely not. this happens all around the country. no demographic is immune from it, and anything that we can do to have, you know, any demographic, any person that wants to stand up and speak against this just horrible cancer on the country, we ask you to please stand up, speak out. >> david, you wanted to say something to that? >> honestly, you're completely right. getting up and standing up, regardless of who you are, how much money you make, wherever you come from, we need to stand up as americans, not democrats and republicans, we need to work together and need more people like you who are running and sadly had to be brought into this debate because of something awful that's happened to them personally. we need people like you out there trying to change the world for the better, aren't working on behalf of the nra or any special interest gun lobby.
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we need people like you. honestly, i don't care if you're democrat or republican at this point. if you're somebody that cares about our children's lives and future, i can fully support it. >> and we need people like you, david, that will stand up when history and the times call for that. thank you both, lucy mcbath and david hogg. we're with you. next, my thoughts on the governor of illinois using chocolate milk to demonstrate his commitment to racial diversity. i promise you, it will not go down smoothly. stay with us. ♪ ♪
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where he and black hyatt inclusion executive used chocolate milk as a visual aid. the executive, named tyrone stoudemire, brought governor rauner up as his mock assistant, pouring a tall glass of moo too juice to represent the white maleness that dominates top level corporate leadership, adding chocolate syrup to the glass, stoudemire explained that most companies don't reflect their diversity, because the brown is at the bottom, so he encouraged the governor to -- >> stir it up, governor, stir it up. diversity is the mix, and inclusion is making the mix work. it actually tastes pretty good, but i'm not going to ask the governor to drink it, because it may not be good. you'll drink it, you'll be proud
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to. there you go. >> it's really, really good. diversity. >> diversity. >> governor rauner, i really just want to laugh this one off and let you pass go, because i've been to enough of these events to know just how awkward the performance diversity can get. maybe you're caught off guard, but we've gotten to where we are by not expecting more nuance from our most powerful elected leaders. the overwhelming majority of whom are white, and that's in the white house, the state house, and the illinois governor's office. plus, you've got a grim gubernatorial primary on your hands next month and a rough first term to defend. as republicans everywhere could stand to learn, this could be one of those times that black
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no satellite needed. democrats in congress find themselves where they've been after every recent mass shooting that has shocked the nation, largely ham strung by a
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republican opposition which maintains that the national desire for increased gun control means less than a civilian's right to own soldier's weapons. but the president signaling this week that he's for now open to some enhanced gun safety measures. we've seen reports that pro gun conservatives are somewhere they've not used to being under a republican president, which is mildly uncomfortable. could democrats exploit the potential divide and work with trusting this president on all issues, gun control? joining me now is democratic national committee chair and former secretary of labor under president obama tom perez. let me go first to this,
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secretary perez. >> sure. >> the president has said he's open to looking on strengthening background checks, something that the republicans have voted down in the past, despite overwhelming support of americans polled, and he's even talking about dealing with these bump stocks, which some conservative republicans oppose. but he's not willing to take on the nra, and he's not willing to take on assault rifles and military-style weapons. where is the democrats' message on this? what's the clear message of where we can go and where you feel is a deal breaker? >> well, you know, common sense gun safety and the second amendment can coexist. we're the mass shooting capital of the world, reverend sharpton. that shouldn't be that way. and what we have to do is make sure that we understand that we
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need to do so many things. the background checks is one thing. the bump stocks are one thing. but you know what, you can buy -- you can't buy alcohol when you're 18 years old, but you can buy an ar-15? that is wrong. and, frankly, the broader problem is, ar-15s shouldn't be in the hands of people like mr. cruz. they shouldn't be in the hands of any civilian. those are weapons of mass destruction, and that's the nub of the issue, and that's what we have to keep fighting for, because parents cannot continue to bury their children. and i'm so inspired by the young people out there. this feels like a different moment to me, and i know we're fighting like heck to make sure that we address all of these issues, and unless you address the issue of the ar-15, unless you address the need to make sure that, you know, we're addressing background checks, we're doing all of this. we have to move forward, and i
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for one as someone who worked for senator kennedy for a number of years, i'm going to keep fighting, because this is wrong. we do not have to be the mass shooting capital of the world. >> now, we did have at one point in our history a ban on assault weapons. >> we did. >> from '84 to '94, let it expire. how did we let it get this far to control, and do americans understand when they are being misled into believing that banning assault weapons is somehow overturning the second amendment that we did ban assault weapons? and this is not in any way trying to overthrow the second amendment. we have already had a decade of banning it, and now that we don't ban it, the results, in my opinion, end up in places like sutherland, texas, las vegas, and now florida, and on and on
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and on, and every day in many of our communities. >> absolutely. i couldn't agree with you more. we have about 4.5% of the world's population in the united states, and we own about 42% of the world's firearms. what we're simply saying is, let's take a category of firearms, these assault weapons that we know are weapons of mass destruction, and let's take them out of play. will that prevent every gun homicide? no, it won't. will it save lives? absolutely. why can't we do that? it's because the nra has a stranglehold on state legislatures and elsewhere, and you know what, young people are going to break that stranglehold. they are leading. david, your previous panelist, he's inspiring, and we have to keep organizing. we can do this. corporations who are saying, you know what, i'm no longer going
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to give these breaks, because i can't associate with being the mass shooting capital of the world. >> well, when you talk about the corporations, when you start seeing major corporations pull back from the nra, and i know as a lifelong civil rights activist when you start costing people's money, things start changing. and this is the first time we've start to seen corporate withdrawal from the nra. and as that escalates, that is going to send a message. >> we need to use every tool in the tool box, you know, we absolutely need to. and that's why we're going to keep applying pressure on businesses. we're going to keep -- as you said, reverend sharpton, we're going to take a page out of the civil rights movement. we're going to be out there always peacefully, but always passionately moving forward. and we have to make sure that we debunk these myths. after every shooting, what we
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hear from people is, the only thing we have to do is deal with the mental health issue. we have to make sure that people with mental health issues don't have access to guns, but what we also need to understand is that gun-related shootings, the percentage that involve people with mental health issues, are a small subset. so we have to deal with that, but we have to do much more than that. >> we've got to also make sure people with mental health conditions don't have access to guns, but that guns should not be legally available to them. and a lot of that comes from legislators, state and congressional. will the democratic party make this a central issue this year, where so many members of the state legislatures in various states, as well as the congress, is up? we can make permanent change, only if we change who votes on the laws. >> well, amen. we have these conversations,
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whether it's the dream act, whether it's common sense gun safety, you know, the challenge we have with this president is he's chronically unreliable. one day he supports the dream act, the next he fights to defeat it. same on gun safety issues, he's all over the map and he's untrustworthy, and for me as head of the democratic party, the most important thing i believe i can help do is elect more democrats. not only in washington, but in state legislatures across this country. you see in virginia now we have more democrats in the house of delegates, and you know what, they are finally going to expand medicaid this year. they are finally doing things. and that's what we have to do. and we have to make sure we debunk these distractions. this notion that we arm teachers in schools and that's going to be the answer. you know what we ought to do? we ought to arm teachers with more computers and with better budgets so that they can help kids learn. we ought to arm students with a five-day school week, you know,
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in kansas and oklahoma. they are only going to school four days a week in some public schools because they've cut the budget to the bone. that's not right, reverend sharpton, and those are the things we need to fight for. certainly, we can help make sure the physical plan of a school is safe, but doing that and that alone is not enough. arming teachers is senseless, and, you know, we have to recognize that if you continue to go down this road, we're going to be at more funerals. i'm not prepared to do that. nobody wants to do that. so we're going to keep fighting. >> and i believe you. thank you, tom perez. >> always a pleasure. >> we will, of course, throughout the year be talking. up next, meeting of minds. what black women in leadership roles are doing right now to help other women harness economic and political power. this is "politics nation".
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their goal, create a plan of women of color to spread the gospel of economic and pow will he -- political power. joining me is stacy williams and now gubernatorial candidate. thank you, stacy, for being with me. the day is wrapping up. i know mayor from nash is on the agen agenda. this gathering is to galvanize. nothing is more representative of it than your race for governor of georgia right there where the conference is occurring. tell us about your race and the conference. >> thank you, reverend al, for having me. our race for governor is emblematic of power rising 2018. we are working to create a new agenda. we want to put education at the center of our conversations, that looks at how we use the
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black woman's agenda to lift up all communities. my campaign in particular is very different. we are not raising money to hoard it to use for ads later on. we're spending money now building coalitions and talking to people on the ground. what's so exciting about power rise 20g 18 is that women across the country are coming together, black women using political voices, to talk about the black woman's agenda as the american agenda. as we lift up the world, if we address issues like gun safety and medicaid expansion, we can transform the lives of millions across the country, especially here in georgia. >> now as we discuss the policies and as we discuss the agend agendas, are there any discussions about the practical ways of running these campaigns and of how the rise in the corporate world, i mean, the how to parts of it, is that part of the discussion? >> absolutely, and it's been a
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fascinating opportunity to watch women across the country to come together. we have a leadership coach, a brilliant writer, all of us on the same stage throughout the week talking about how we've leveraged our capacity to get where we are. as someone who's an entrepreneur, political leader and nonprofit leader, i've been able to use this platform to really talk about the intersection and finality of the work we have to do. what's most exciting are the young people in the audience who are not only listening but using this conversation to plan for how they can be involved and how they can lead their community. >> and participating. i mentioned mayor brad hector who is there. >> absolutely. >> seeing the young people not only in the audience but addressing it in part of the leadership which has been a key factor in how well your race for
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governor has been going. you've been able to galvanize a lot of young people. >> we have. in fact, i think more than 20% of our interns in our campaign are high school students. we have hundreds of volunteers, thousands, actually, across the state, and they run the gamut in age and race, but what i'm particularly excited about with power rising we see a lot of women like mary pat hester who are standing up and running for office themselves. lucy mcbath is a little bit older but lucy has used her power as a black woman and the tragic circumstances that she faced to stand up and demand action at the capitol. i'm excited about my opportunity to be the next governor because it's a larger platform for all of us to use. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. we are excited with you and we're going to keep talking throughout the year. thank you so much, stacy abrams. >> thank you. up next, my final thoughts on the passing of two great ministers.
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this week this nation mourned the passing of reverend billy graham. probably one of the great evangelist preachers of the 20th century, certainly in american history. i remember billy graham as the one that filled stadiums and really brought evangelism into the television age. as one also who counselled many
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presidents, but i came out of the social justice ministry, and i would always say, why doesn't he march? and it was reverend wyatt t. walker who was martin luther king's executive director, who mentored me, was the chairman of the board of national action network that explained to me that we all have ministries in different ways, and billy graham was effective as wyatt walker and martin luther king was. wyatt walker's memorial will be this saturday in harlem. two great ministers who approached truth in different aspects but the same truth. the magic of both of their ministries is they preached what they believed and they lived what they said. let's remember both of them. we don't have to choose between them, we can enjoy the leadership that both provided. that does it for me. thanks for watching.
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