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>> it's terrifying to think about people dying from this condition and we don't want to be one of those statistics. >> and check out your screen and some of the pictures that have gone viral through this whole thing. icicles forming on a ceiling fan. you can see a pot of water with frozen snow in it. they're actually boiling the snow, because they have no running water in their house. we have the politics of this, too, governor greg abbott walking back comments, blaming 14 energy for the crisis and you want to hear what the former governor said on this, too, with more on the way with the mid-atlantic and east, sleet and freezing raynhamering more than 100 million people. i'm hallie jackson in washington along with our team on this thursday morning. morgan chesky is in dallas. we will be joined in a moment by a couple live guests from texas as well, morgan, yes, we are seeing improvement in the number
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of power outages? more people are getting their power back. more are in for a difficult day yet again today. >> yeah, halle, are you exactly right. it almost feels like they are trading one crisis for another. at last check, about a half million texans still without electricity. yet, we have 7 million people across the state facing border while advisories. the sad part is there is no definitive time table as to when power will be fully restored. all of this as we stand if 25 degrees in dallas. a few degrees warmer down in houston. we are not out of the woods despite there being a power restoration effort overnight. as it stands right now, we know that governor greg abbott issued an order that would prohibit the sale of natural gas over state lines and to make sure there is ample fuel for generators, trying to make their work here in the confines of the state.
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here in dallas and in houston. no matter where you look, the sad part is we are seeing long lines form as people line up around grocery stores, water distribution centers and people trying to fill up those propane tanks that for me is the only single source of heat inside their home. i spoke with an elderly father and his daughter. and they gathered inside their three bedroom home. they had one gas stove that they used to basically fill up a thermos with water to try to cook off there. they were able cook off that with a single source of heat. that's one household out of the millions that went without power for not hours but days on end. so right now the situation in texas still absolutely dire, especially when you see those pictures of water freezing, of the damage caused by pipes bursting. an alarming thing we are hearing is fire departments are asking folks to turn their water off a.
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lot of people let there's faucets running in an effort to keep their pipes from freezing. now we have authorities say turn the water off, there may not be enough pressure for firefighters when they need it to do their job. it's an absolutely brutal chain reaction on every level. it hasn't warmed up. it hasn't done so until later this weekend. >> you got people making desperate decisions to stay warm and make sure their families are okay. their families have what you need. you have been talking to people there. you got this brutal water alert in effect. we saw people literally boil ice in their yards. any word on how long this is going to last? going to last? >> reporter: city officials here in houston say they should see some improvements to water pressure throughout the day today and into tomorrow. but they're not promising an exact time at which that might happen and people will seep those improvements.
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i just spoke a few moments ago with a family in houston. they have no water whatsoever. they haven't taken a proper shower since last weekend. there is eight people sharing down to their last two cases of water for these eight people. they have been driving around looking for additional water and supplies and places are completely sold out. at this point everyone i talked to is exhausted, emotional, running low on sleep. i spent the day yesterday interviewing a mom of three special needs kids. her three daughters depend on the medication that has to be refrigerated at specific temperature. she threw them in the call looking all around the city looking for a safe place to stay and food and water for her kids to have. take a look at this conversation i had with her. >> either you stay in your house and you know you are cold and you 42 easier to death and you have no food and you know and all of this might seem dramatic. but there is really what's
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happening here in houston. this is people's lives right now. or you go out and go from hotel to hotel hoping you find something and you risk you know getting colder because of you know this pandemic. it is a two-fold issue happening all at once report. lisa told me her family has basically had to throw covid protocols and commitment to social distancing out the window these last couple days because as they're in survival mode, waiting in long lines for food, staying in packed hotels for a short amount of time, they basically have no other choice. she described it as feet or flight mode. >> it's just scary to think about what they have to go to. thanks to the both of you and for your great reporting. i want to bring in somebody dealing with this, carla, she lives in houston. her family has been without power now for several days, staying with friends, carla is also the vice chair of the texas democratic party.
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we are joined by dallas county judge clay jenkins. carla, let me start with you. i can't imagine what a rough couple of days it has been for you and your family. i understand a pipe burst. what has it been like for you these past few days? >> it has been like just trying to survive to ensure that my daughter and i were safe. my parents are safe. i mean, every minute, you are just checking in and out to make sure you have the very bare necessities. everything else goes out the window. right now as you probably know by now, my most concern is trying to get my home back in order, not even knowing having any idea when we will have power or even water. that is essential for me. i'm a mother of a daughter with asthma, so all of this, every day, i have to be extremely
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concerned as it relates to this power situation. i really believe that taking into consideration what's happened with covid, we had to throw out out protocols. right now in our home, i think it is four families here. at one point i was at my cousin's home for a few days. then when i realized that my home was flooded and the ceiling is collapsing, i had to come closer in, so that i can be on call if i'm able to get an insurance agent to come out or a contractor. i have to be available. so we are really going from home-to-home. my parents just got power this morning, but they are still without water. i'm the care-taker of them. so it's a lot, unnecessarily. i think much of it could have been avoided. >> let me ask you about that,
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the former governor rick berry is out with a statement who said texans will be without electricity for longer than three days to make sure he says the federal government is out of their business, trying not to let the crisis of the day is. keep your eye off the grid. i'm wondering about your response to that. do you agree with your former governor on this? >> oh, absolutely not. i think i will go back and i believe all of them work. they coordinate together. i doubt many of them are experiencing a situation with even their families and themselves without power, without water. this was a lack of foresight, this was a lack of oversight. it is no way that any state in america, let alone texas, the capital to all of this, it's happening. people, i also have to say for me, i'm chig about those who have covid who are in, you know,
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a situation where they need oxygen, just a few months ago, i was in a situation where i was on oxygen about two weeks. i could not imagine having access to oxygen but can't use it because i can't access power. this right here is a detriment. there is absolutely no excuse and i cannot believe that perry of all people would even result to having such comments made. i mean, this. we have to have leadership for such a time, because i'm an educator and for 25 years, i've told people that that is not a field that you go in, if you can't meet people where they are and do what needs to be done and right now, this is unheard of. >> carla, thank you very much for your time this morning. we appreciate it. we hope you and your family are able to get back if your house soon or as soon as possible. judge jenkins, can you talk to
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us about the situation as it stands this morning right now, how many people are without power? i think you are not dealing with other major water issues others are having. but when do you see light at the end of the countryr tunnel for folks? >> i was on the phone with the ceo, i see light friday. we have 7,000 people in north texas without power. mostly, that's because the transformers were frozen without the power to them and now they're broken. so our electric delivery company encore is out having to fix those transformers. that will take some time. there is not churntly any shed off of a grid. so there should be power to people as soon as those transformers are fixed. now, what's happened with the water, it's happened here and across the state is there are many different sources of water facilities. some of those treatment
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facilities are without power. so they weren't able to adequately clean the water. if you get a boil notice or a conservation notice from your city, you can do that dallas water utility that services most of this county is in good shape. we are not asking to you contev, boil. >> did you ever think it could get the bad in texas as this? >> yes. we have been warning the governor about this since 2011 when it was nearly this bad around the super bowl. you may remember the ice storm. there was a federal report that said if you don't winterize, it will happen again. there was a state report that said the same thing. the governor made a conscious choice not to do that. when you are in a regulated market, you tell companies that they don't have to do something, you are telling them not to do it. because they only get their
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energy bought if they're at the lowest cost. so this was completely predictable and now it's time for the governor to apologize along with the people that regulate them. the three elected officials called the railroad commission here, those four people need to apologize, they need to make efforts to now winterize the things that we told to winterize years ago. if they don't do that it takes the legislature to make them do it. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about these pictures purporting to be texas senator ted cruz getting on a plane to cancun. nbc news has not been able to verify them. we reached out to the senator and we haven't heard back. you have a tweeted where you made public comments about this. do you know for a fact he is not there in texas helping with this disaster response?
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>> well, i haven't heard from him. my understanding is is that he and his kids are in mexico on a vacation. i haven't heard from the governor or any of the state leaders throughout this. we have been doing the best we can. we have heard from the white house. we are very thankful. the reason our water is in good shape is the biden administration, fema sent us generators. we hooked those up to our water treatment plants and we were able to save most of our water treatment plants, with that help, but, you know, for those of us that are in public service, when people are hurting in crisis, we all need to do as much as we can. we can't do everything. everyone in public service can do like the people of texas are doing right now in helping one another. we all can't do everything. but we can do as much as we can do. we will be here in the battle.
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we need to be helping texas. >> judge jenkins, thank you so much for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. we hope things get better for folks in texas soon. this winter weather is affected not just food and water and power. for millions of people as we have been talking about, the covid vaccines, too, with a double cham my making it harder to distribute and get the shots. we are live with a backlog so many are dealing with now. plus, new details on a pathway for citizenship for 11 million undocumented immigrants. a part of a massive immigration bill the white house is rolling out today. but what are the chances democrats are actually able to pass it? the chances democrats are actually able to pass it? [ birds chirping ] mondays, right? what? i said mondays, right? [ chuckles ] what about 'em?
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we are back here with some breaking news into our newsroom. former presidential candidate and senate majority leader bob deal releasing a cancer diagnosis. the 97-year-old says quote recently i was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. his first treatment will start on monday. he adds, while i certainly have hurdles ahead, i i know i join millions of americans that face challenges of their own. he ran against bill clinton in 1996 and before that, he was the senate leader in the mid-'80s and '90s representing his home state of kansas. in 2018, he was awarded the congressional medal for a
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statesman. one of the last times he was seen in public was the same year at the funeral of president george h.w bush. a lot of people thinking of bob deal. back here in washington to politics now. presidents of both parties tried and failed in 2001, 26, 2007, again in 2013. this morning, president biden is officially trying to overhaul the immigration system. the white house unveiling a sweeping plan today along with two democrats on capitol hill. but there is a big caveat to our capitol hill team. instead of rushing to the negotiating table, republicans are gearing up to mount a campaign against the proposal. it's not clear if the biden administration has a strategy to get that bill to his desk. i want to go to kristen welker at the white house and julia ainsley. julia, walk us through the bill and what it would mean to an overhaul to the immigration system. >> well, it's a path to
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citizenship, an eight-year path for the limited 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the united states now. there would be a faster path for farm workers and for daca recipients brought here illegally by their parents. they have a number of things they want to accomplish. they want to allow children in central america to apply for asylum there than the united states. they want to stop using alien and using undocumented immigrants. i should say they're here without documentation. they also want to expand the diversity via the lottery system. this is something that president trump wanted to do away with and make it into more of a merit-based system. really, they're going back further, just undoing what trump did. this would be very progressive even in the obama era when it comes to immigration. right now, it's a wish list. it's a lot of what advocates have wanted that they're putting forward.
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like you said, it's a long road to see how any of this would get through in the end, especially when it comes to that pathway for citizenship, we are likely to see republicans mount a fierce defense when they see that as amnesty. >> on that note, if you can end it, how does the bill get through congress? there is no enhanced voter security. that is something republicans said they wanted. what happens next on the hymn side of this? >> reporter: that's really the big question mark. as julia said, i think she laid it out really well, this is a wish list. and i think the white house and democrats are clear eyed about that. they aren't necessarily anticipating this entire package will get passed, like for covid, they want to see the 1.9 trillion package passed. in this case, it feels like there is an openness, a willingness to potentially do this piecemeal. in fact, president biden during
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his town hall in milwaukee signaling he will be opened to that potentially. officials couldn't detail what is their plans to get this passed? so all of that raising a lot of questions about the reality. i think in terms of getting this done piece-by-piece, you could see a focus on daca potentially from farm workers. >> julia, let's go to you quickly, are you reporting this morning the biden administration letting immigrants if dire situations to enter the united states. what have you heard? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. we know as of tomorrow they will start processing people who have been waiting under that remain in mexico policy that trump started to say that asylum seekers had to wait in mexico for months or a year or more before they can come in and claim their day in court. we understand for the past few weeks they have been letting in immigrants in dire circumstances. these are people, one man who
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has not seen his unborn child. there was a deaf man who couldn't figure out how to get help in mexico to navigate the system. i spoke with one woman that came here with her 5-year-old daughter after she was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer. she was told by a doctor in mexico, if she didn't get to the united states and get help and treat this immediately, they can be talking about the end of her life. the problem now is she is here and having a hard time getting care. this is onef owes things that the biden administration is going to have to address. how do you help undocumented immigrants, people who have not yet gone official asylum status once they're here? that's a position she finds herself in as so many do. >> thanks, to the both of you for your time and reporting. coming up here on the show, new york governor andrew cuomo now at the center of an investigation by the fbi and u.s. attorney for how his administration handled nursing homes during the pandemic?
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stay away from any downed wire, call 911, and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. this morning, more confusion, more frustration, more debate over when teachers should be vaccinated and whether schools should wait before
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reopening. here are questions over the message from the biden administration. officials making it clear, it is not a requirement for every teacher to be vaccinated, while at the same time hammer home this. >> we should give priority. >> we think there should be a prior my. >> teachers should absolutely be priority among those we consider personnel. >> the president and the vice president both believe that teachers should be prioritized. >> but only 28 states have made all or some teachers eligible for a vaccine. even in those states, the strange ply means delays, something else, scenes like the one are you about to see out of new jersey, the deadly winter storm barreling across the country. nbc's stephanie gosk is in new jersey. kathy, what's happening across the country? what kind of an impact this winter weather is having on vaccinations? >> reporter: hey, halle, as you
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can see, the snow is coming down in new jersey. when the storm moves out of here, we are looking at anywhere from four-to-six inches of snow, typically, if it wasn't snowing like this right now, you would see a steady stream of people behind me going in and out of this building, getting their first or second dose of the covid-19 vaccine. automatic appointments have been cancelled for today. but here officials are saying it's a combination thing, a, it's the weather. also, they have had delays and deliveries of the vaccines because weather has impacted the hub in the south and the mid-west and in new jersey, several megasites throughout the state have been cancelled because of the inclement weather. state wide, the goal is to inoculate nearly 5 million people over the course of six months, obviously, the northeast continues to be hammered. it seems with all this snow and ice, that has definitely
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impacted the time line moving forward. but we have been out here a couple hours. it's interesting to note, several people have been coming to us asking whether or not vaccinations are moving forward at this location. so it seems like some people are fought getting alerts from officials here so if you do have to come out, probably a good idea to stay indoors and check online. check your individual health department, especially if you have an appointment to 73 it is actually moving forward. >> good advice, thank you. step to you now and back to that push to get students back in class. i know you have been reporting on what parents have been saying about the messaging for the biden administration. >> reporter: yeah, you talked -- there are a couple issues here, really. you touched on one of the biggest. that's the supply of this vaccine. even in these 28 states where you mentioned teachers are prioritized. you still have to get an appointment. there is brass rings, not everyone can get one, especially
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with weather like this, it's harder and harder. in places like new york city, where schools are opened. not all teachers are vaccinated. they are on the priority list here in the state of new york so you have teachers and lots of parents sitting there puzzling, what is it, should they get vaccinated or not vaccinated? the administration is saying it depends and on a number of factors. one of the important measures is are the safety measures in schools. are kids socially distant? do they wash their hands? do they have good vent laition? have you large districts getting recalled to go to school with teachers having real concerns and teachers having real concerns. this is what one teacher in los angeles had to say on the subject. >> they should say, we need to be vaccinated in order to return to work. we're not just sitting at home because somebody just said, oh, we got to close the schools.
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we're sitting at home because of life and death. >> reporter: but there is research that's been done out there, halle, that says if you got these safety measures in place, especially the elementary schools is pretty low so there is that push to get kids back in school there. there are sky cam logical, emotional challenges that they face. not to mention the loss of schooling, which is now at this point over a year. halle. >> it's unbelievable to think about that number. stephanie gosk, thank you very much for that. i want to bring in dr. ashish ja. the dean of public health. thank you for being back on the show. >> good morning, thanks for having me back. >> we heard from one educator concerned about the reluctance to require shots be every getting back into the classroom s. it fair, is ititative to expect teachers to return before getting vaccinated? >> yes, this is a critical
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question. look. it is absolutely essential we make teachers feel safe and are safe. if they're not, this doesn't work. we set up this false dichotomy between teacher safety. we need both. there are lots of ways of doing it. the experience is clear if you have really terrific ventilation. if you have everybody wearing masks, that can make and obviously hand washing and some other things. that alone i think can make schools really safe. i have advocated for two more things. i advocated for more regular testing in schools. we now have the testing capacity to do that. certainly vaccinations, i believe teachers should be in a high priority list. is it essential every teacher be vaccinated before returning to school? >> no. would it help? it sure would. >> yeah. >> so what can the federal government do? right what you've heard as well is up to states. we can see a recommendation from the cdc, of course, itself. how do you fix this? how do you make it clear what
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states need to do? >> yeah, i think number one, we need clear and consistent communications from our federal leadership about how to keep schools safe? again i think it's mask wearing, ventilation, testing and vaccinations, probably in that order. but got to focus on those things. schools need resources, you can't say to schools, improve your ventilation and not do anything about it. we've wasted a year. let's use this time now. then let's make teachers a priority. i advocate for that for vaccinations. i believe in that. >> let me ask you about this south african variant, there is this new study as you know published on vaccines in the new england journal of medicine. you got one that says lab studies suggest pfizer, moderna vaccines can protect against the coronavirus variant. another says it's less potent.
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neither of those are necessarily wrong. right. they're saying very different things. in plain english, for somebody getting inundated with these headlines, what does somebody need to know about this study? >> so it is confusing. the language can be tough. every bit of evidence we have right now says these vaccines work against all the variants that are out there, especially the uk and south african variant, the two that we're worried about and that's what people need to know, is they will work. it will protect them from getting sick, from dying. at the end of the day, that's what we care about. >> there is new data showing life expectancy fell by a full year in the first half of 2020. that is the biggest decline since world war ii, according to washington post. what do you make of that? >> it is stunning. for people that don't spend a lot of time, a year, it often takes us you know many, many years of all sorts of medical progress to get an extra year of
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life expectancy. it's such a stunning loss. it shows you, if you botch a global pandemic in its response, which our federal government did last year, this is the kind of effect you get. it's awful. i do think we will recover from it. it's kind of world war ii level impact. it's really stunning. >> what's also disturbing is we are showing on the screen for black americans, latino americans, they actually lost more life expectancy. thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate your time and expertise as always. more coming up, when andrea mitchell sits down with dr. fauci. remember our interactive and personalized state-by-state guide that has everything you need to help figure out when and where you should go to get your vaccine. we're again going to put that qr code up on the screen. put your phone in front of it. take a pick. plan your, you can sign up four customizable alerts
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new scrutiny nor the governor and how he handles data at nursing home. we learned that they are opening a preliminary investigation into andrew cuomo's administration over that whole situation. according to a senior official familiar with the investigation. that's after it was revealed deaths in nursing homes were much higher than initially reported. the cuomo administration saying in a statement, quote, the doj has been looking into this for a month. we have been courting with them. because of his new investigation and backlash. the "new york times" is reporting they are looking to strip him of his emergency
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powers as soon as next week. one democratic state law maker saying on "morning joe" this morning, he got a call from governor cuomo threatening him for going pub luck against him. >> for ten minutes, he berated me, he yelled at me. he told me that you know my career would be over. he has been biting his tongue for months against me. it's my job to ask these tough questions. i shouldn't be punished for doing my job. >> a cuomo adviser says kim is lying about that call. i want to bring in a chief reporter, jonathan, good morning to you. so where does the investigation go from here? and is there a possibly that charges could be brought against the cuomo administration? >> we are told this federal criminal investigation is in its early stages and it comes after republicans and some democrats made allegations of a coverup, similar allegations made by families of the loved ones who
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died in nursing homes. the u.s. attorney and fbi will want to know this, were false statements made? was there any sort of scheme to defraud by cuomo administration officials? as folks, they say mellissa derosa told senate democrats that, yes, we were putting out this data for quite some time enraging democrats because of that, they are going to take a hard look at what went on with those numbers. now you saw ron kidd there. he's a queens democrat. he is one alleging a coverup. he says the governor has been trying to bully him to stay quiet. the government denies he ever threatened kim and denies any wrongdoing. although, the governor has admitted some missfax in the putting out of information.
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but he says that was not contribute. it was merely a mistake and error in judgment, if you will. the governor's critics say he was hiding this to try to protect his legacy. as you know, he was front and center when the crisis hit providing those briefings that led to writing a back. the governor says, the issue is as simple as this, we had second, elderly people moving from nursing homes that were sick. they died in hospitals. they counted as first as hospital deaths. we updated the numbers to make them nursing home deaths. when you talk 8,000 versus 15,000 deaths and counting. so you are talking more than double the numbers. so, it was concern. cuomo says he was following cdc guidelines. the cdc not responding to our inquiries over the last two days exactly what those guidelines were for moving nursing home patients out of hospitals and back into nursing homes. all of this amid a political
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fallout as you mentioned where republicans and democrats are talking about stripping the governor of some of his emergency powers. again, the criminal investigation in its early stages and one key point to note, the governor future out a statement saying that they have been cooperating for months. well, there was that civil inquiry by the justice department, the trump justice department months ago. this is a new criminal investigation that just started after mellissa derosa's meeting in albany last week. >> jonathan, great to see you, great to have your reporting on the show. now to presidential politics, donald trump on tv for the first time as a former president given his thoughts on the current state of the gop and perhaps his future. he spent part of the day wednesday calling the various conservative media outlets, fox news and newsmax and giving a glimpse of his plans for 2022 and beyond after again by the
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way saying he falsely won the congressional race. democrats are looking to keep him out of the picture and off the ballot. have you the former lead impeachment manager, congressman raskin saying he is looking into using the 14th amendment, specifically section 3, if they engage in insurrection or rebellion against it. kelly o'donnell, these are not what you would call wide-ranging issue,, he pushed the claims the last month in his office. it gave us the state of the gop and the future he wants in it. >> reporter: we want it as a template, this was following the death of rush limbaugh, a friend and huge voice in conservative circles, the former president taking a moment to address those supporters in that window or is this something of a guidebook of
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what he might do when he wants to speak out? and that is notable, because part of what the former president's i'm still getting used to it, especially when i'm talking with you, about former president trump, testing the waters to see what is the strength of his support? and if his own future is one where keeping the possibilities opened for potential run or being the big influencer in the party, keeping those opportunities opened without locking himself in keeps some of the interest in some of the power. especially when you are talking about those areas of peril, with civil and criminal probes that may ensnare him as well as action from congress. so to give you just a little taste of where donald trump's mind is right now about his own future, here's one excerpt of what he said talking about his support and what may come of it. >> we have tremendous support. i won't say yet, though we have tremendous support and i'm looking at poll numbers that are
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through the roof. >> reporter: and during these interviews, he was not challenged on all the kind of things that are worthy of questioning the former president about it. it was really an open platform for him to talk to his supporters and about his support. and as you pointed out, also airing grievances that went unchecked. halle. >> kelly o'donnell, live there outside the white house. thank you. right now on capitol hill, you got house speaker nancy pelosi getting recalled to talk to reporters about where things stand with the covid relief bill. among other topics, those and reporters in the room. that, of course, is the microphone from where she will speak. we will bring you live to that witness we get it. we are also talking up next about what he has been trying to do for more than three decades and the new hearing that could make the reparations a
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congress is getting closer to addressing something that's been debated since the end of
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the civil war. a house subcommittee is looking at whether to establish a federal commission to study reparations. that's how the u.s. government might compensate descendents of enslaved americans. lawmakers have been trying to put a commission together for more than 30 years with no luck. there's renewed hope it might actually happen this time. president biden on his first day in office signed and executive order on racial equity. >> hidden in the corners of this nation of those of african-american heritage, descendents of enslaved africans who felt the sting of disparities. they continue to feel that sting. now more than ever the facts and circumstances facing our nation demonstrate the importance of hr40 and the necessity of placing our nation on the path
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to repairative justice. >> joining me, eugene daniels. thanks for being on the show. >> thanks for having me. >> of course. give us the reality check. is this bill going to get support to move through congress? >> it's possible. there's something that we haven't seen before is that the white house will support this, a bill like this has gone -- has been introduced since i was born in 1989 and hasn't gone through. this commission to study reparations. this isn't to dole out the money to descendents. president biden supported t as a candidate. yesterday, i talked to -- at the press beefing to jen psaki and asked if he supported this bill. >> let me stop you there. only because we actually -- you teed us up perfectly. we have that interaction. you did ask the white house press secretary about it. let me roll the tape.
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>> well, it's working its way through congress. you would support a study. we will see what happens through the legislative process. >> as you point out, eugene, not a real solid answer on that. >> right. what was interesting is that the questions right before about whether or not the president would support a 10k of student loan, and they said he would be happy to sign it. for this one, which is a little more divisive in this country for different reasons, they are sheepish on whether or not he would sign this bill. i asked why -- if he would sign an executive order to commit this commission, something that activists are asking him to do. she also said she wouldn't answer that. >> eugene, come back, because we
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good morning. i'm jeff bennett in for craig melvin. it's a busy hour. any second now, nancy pelosi will start her weekly press briefing. the clock is ticking to pass covid relief. that's not stopping hill democrats from unveiling an immigration reform bill today. we will hear the details on that in a matter of minutes. first, hundreds of thousands of people in texas are trying to survive the extreme cold without power. millions of people are under a boil water advisory. you have to hear the struggles there to believe just how bad it
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is right now. >> inside of the house, it's almost minus 2 or minus 1. it's really cold inside. >> they don't have gas. i have nine miles to go with my car. we have to find something that's within nine miles from here. >> to tell you how cold it was, it was colder inside in my living room than the refrigerator. >> the biden administration is sending blankets and generators to help people in texas. the situation is dire. governor abbott says every source of power that texas has has been compromised because of the cold. he is warning that the state should brace for another round of freezing temperatures over the next few days. folks are trying to navigate this crisis. first, it's good to see you. the situation is desperate. searches for basic supplies


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