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good afternoon, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot going on right now. a team of correspondents and experts on the ready to break it all down for you. the president set to leave the white house at any moment after a brief, but full throated push for senate passage of his nearly $2 trillion covid relief bill over republican opposition. more covid relief about to hit the market as we await federal approval of a new vaccine. plus, new reporting indicating authorities may have a suspect in the killing of police officer brian sicknick in the capitol hill riot. all of that and a new twist in what may be the strangest story of the week. a woman turning in lady gaga's dogs, stolen in an assault in which her dog walker was shot but the mystery remains over who did it and why. we'll get to more on that story later on in the hour, but we do want to begin with that breaking news. we are waiting official fda authorization of a new vaccine that will provide new ammunition
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in the fight against covid and could come at any moment. this is coming after a panel of fda experts given the green light to johnson & johnson covid shot which could be packaged and moved once fda gives its approval. it will be the third vaccine here in the united states and first vaccine to require one dose instead of two. msnbc kathy park and msnbc medical contributor dr. patel. appreciate it. welcome, both. as we're awaiting this covid vaccine approval from johnson and johnson, take us through where we are currently and what we can expect once it goes through the formal approval process and is ready to go. >> yep. hey, yasmin. good afternoon to you. that's right. right now we are essentially in stand by mode. and you just said it, we are moments away from the approval from the fda for emergency use authorization when it comes to the j & j vaccine. once that clears and is likely
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clear some point this weekend, it will go to an advisory committee with the cdc who will then decide which groups will get the vaccine. so this has been the protocol that the other vaccines pfizer, moderna have followed as well. and once all of those hurdles have been cleared, the pharmaceutical giant will essentially be able to push out approximately 4 million or excuse me, 2 million doses of the vaccine starting next week and then we can expect to see about 20 million vaccines rolled out by the end of march. and 100 million by this summer. but, this comes at a critical time because health experts worry about covid variants. take a listen. >> we're in a race between the virus mutating, new variants coming out that can cause further disease and stopping it. so the fewer people who are infected with the virus, the less opportunity it has to emerge as a more vary lant
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strain. we're in a hurry. >> obviously you heard there's an urgency to get vaccinated but it really isn't that easy because nationwide there is a shortage of vaccines. it's just hard to get access to these vaccines. you have seen the long lines all across the country. in texas, for example, extreme winter weather just last week delayed thousands of vaccinations. so thousands are playing catchup. we saw long lines so this crisis certainly isn't over. yasmin? >> dr. patel, i want to go to you on this because kathy is completely right. it is incredibly difficult to get avaccine across this country. my husband on a personal experience had to weight in line eight hours even though he had an appointment because he has a comorbidity and that's happening really across the country. despite the fact that there are the doses out there and we saw president biden celebrate that 50 million mark 50 million doses
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being delivered as of a couple days ago. so how is this going to change the game, getting johnson & johnson fully approved and distributed throughout the country? >> yeah, yasmin. kathy is exactly right. and your experience kind of echos sentiments all around the country, if not the world. and the johnson and johnson vaccine offers two really big strengths. the one shot aspect, because it just gives you not immediately but starting at 14 and certainly at 28 days after that shot we start to see incredible efficacy and candidly zero deaths, zero severe hospitalizations. but the second, yasmin, which might be the critical game changer in parts of the country where freezers and the storage issues are a problem, is the fact that it can be stored at refrigerator, regular refrigerator temperatures. it just offers flexibility. so i think that this combined with the fact that the president has put pressure on moderna and pfizer to continue and also
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increase any manufacturing by any means possible, i do think that march and april will be kind of game changers. i think the question is will those variants cause smaller hot spots around the country so that we see cases kind of continuing to decrease but at a much slower rate than we've seen. >> dr. patel, i know that the johnson & johnson vaccine is also currently a trial which they're testing out the efficacy of getting that second dose, if, in fact, it will lift the efficacy the overall efficacy of the vaccine. why are they doing that? considering that they know they have a pretty high level of efficacy just with one dose? >> yeah. it was a topic of great discussion yesterday, by the way. i think a couple of things. number one, we did see a lower amount of what we would call efficacy or effectiveness especially in oldercomorbidicom.
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that's what they're testing to see if the second dose would help and frankly as an experience the kind of viral vaccine this is different than pfizer and moderna, so this truly is just a way to safely tell if it's possible to get a boost or if there's a second dose kind of potential with these new variants that could be useful. i think that what's confusing for the public and this got brought up at the fda meeting yesterday is that there's two manufactures now, two doses. if johnson & johnson does a strong communication rollout around one dose and months later we get data there's a second dose that makes it just even a little bit better, it becomes very chaotic and confusing. so, the truth is what we're going to see authorized because the data is there to support one dose. is going to be coming out like you said any day now, any hour now. and then we have to actually think about just how to get as many of these shots into arms as you and kathy have pointed out. >> yeah. that's the goal, isn't it,
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that's always the goal. kathy park, thank you, dr. pa tell, thank you as will. dr. patel will stick around just in case we get that approval within the next two hours or so. so we appreciate that, dr. patel. the next round of covid relief is now in the hands of the senate after the house passed president biden's $1.9 trillion relief bill earlier this morning. i want to bring in msnbc's shannon pettypiece on this. good to talk to you on this, shannon. i want to talk through a little of the details of what we can expect to actually happen in the senate and of course what we heard from the president a little bit earlier today. >> reporter: well, in the senate it does appear now that democrats have the support they need to push this through. there's little bit of a question mark around that, particularly with senator joe manchin when this $15 minimum wage provision was expected to be in there. under the ruling of the senate parliamentarian that $15 minimum wage isn't allowed under the senate rules, so we believe that
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is going to get stripped out in the senate bill. so without that, there should not be any reason for democrats to mount any opposition from this in the senate. and we will see it then get passed through the senate. it has to go back to the house for procedural vote and then it should become law. we're on track for it to get to that march 15th deadline the white house is aiming for the date when the extended unemployment benefits run out for millions of americans. they wanted to get something passed then. the white house for weeks now really putting a pressure campaign on not just democrats but republicans as well and the white house continued that today, keeping that pressure on. here is what president biden had to say a few hours ago. >> and with their vote, we're one step closer to vaccinating the nation. we are one step closer to putting $1,400 in the pockets of americans. we're one step closer to extending unemployment benefits for millions of americans who are shortly going to lose them.
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>> reporter: now, the white house had made concerted effort at the beginning to try to get some republican support for this. that didn't happen in the house. it's unclear if that's going to happen in the senate and i asked the senior administration official has this changed your kalulous whether they can work with republicans. they were quick to point out they will use this as a way to frame republicans as having voted against these $1,400 stimulus checks which are very popular. so still keeping that pressure on republicans and looking to leverage this against republicans if they don't get that support, yasmin. >> we're going to talk more about this covid relief bill later on in the hour and also addressing some of the options that democrats have when it comes to raising the minimum wage to $15. let's remember the minimum wage has not been changed since 2009. that's a lot of time that's passed. shannon pettypiece, thank you. good to see you. i want to remind folks
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tonight on "politics nation" kamala harris joining the rev to discuss black history month, covid vaccinations and her priorities as vice president. you want to watch the full exclusive interview on "politicsnation" at 5:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. police are continuing to make arrests in connection with january's capitol hill riots, new developments are unfolding in the investigation into the death of officer brian sicknick, who died ach fighting with protesters. law enforcement sources telling nbc news the fbi is zeroing in on an unnamed assailant in the officer's death. i want to bring in nbc's amanda golden who is on capitol hill for us and been following this story for us. amanda, good to talk to you this afternoon. appreciate you joining us. give us the latest reporting on the development of one individual that they've zeroed in on that could be at fault for the killing and the death of brian sicknick. >>reporter: yeah, yasmin. we're starting to get additional
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details. the fbi is honing on a single assailant as the suspect here in the investigation of the death around officer brian sicknick. there are not a ton of additional details there but we do see that they are now confirming there's a video that shows an assailant targeting police officers including sicknick with bear spray. spraying that substance and you have that video. they're not identifying the specific individual by name at this time, but the capitol police put out a statement late last night. i want to show you just part of it. they noted that the medical examiner's report on officer brian sicknick's death is not yet complete. they're awaiting toxicology results and work with other government agencies regarding the death investigation. this comes as federal prosecutors charged more than 300 individuals in light of the violence that we saw take place on january 6th. and with brian sicknick's death, he sustained injuries during those riots on january 6th and died several days later. we're waiting to see those additional information but this also comes as we know that
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capitol police have yet to brief the press around this. the first glimpses of information happened earlier this week with those hearings that took place here on the hill throughout the week where officials that were in charge of security were grilled by lawmakers as to the intelligence failures and per received sluggish response by federal government the reasons sited by security officials as to the mismanagement and what went on in the riots we saw take place on january 6th at the capitol, yasmin. >> msnbc amanda golden. thank you, amanda. good to talk to you. >> immaterial to head overseas our first response from iran in days after a deadly u.s. air strike. in retaliation against iran-backed air strikes. good to see you this afternoon. thank you so much for joining us on this. a lot of developments on this story to say the least. i first want to address what we're hearing from the pentagon essentially saying that the bombing caused casualties, but
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they didn't necessarily say how many. what are you learning about this? >> reporter: hi, yasmin. that's right. the pentagon didn't put a number, they just said casualties as you mentioned. there are a lot of conflicting reports as to how many people were killed. syrian observatory of human rights put the figure at 22 people being killed. and they've kept that number. right after the air strikes happened, iranian state media said 16 people had been killed. and then a senior militia commander said that only one of their militiaman has been killed in the state and iranian state media reporting from iraq carried on that reporting and until now they are also saying only one person has been killed. so, quite a big jump between 1 and 22 people. and it's very difficult to determine just how many people were killed. it's a very difficult place to access.
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there's a lot of propaganda going on when people are releasing these numbers. so beyond some fatalities we can't put an exact number on how many people were killed. >> it's not uncommon for iran's proxies to be causing havoc throughout the region and for iran not necessarily to take responsibility for them. that being said, much of the talk after this strike from the united states has been around the jcpoa, right, and how is this going to affect getting right back into the jcpoa both from america's perspective and iran's perspective as well. where do we stand on that, ali? >> reporter: well, first, yasmin, i think it's important to point out that it's the messaging around this attack is arguably a lot more significant than the air strike itself. this is joe biden telling teheran that he wants to resolve the nuclear deal diplomatically, peacefully, but at the same time, he's not going to tolerate
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any attacks by iran or their proxies on u.s. assets or those of their allies in the region. so, i don't think this is a deal breaker for the nuclear deal. both sides have shown interest, political will of getting back to it. it's proved a lot more difficult than everybody else has thought. but, both sides want to try and resolve this diplomatically. that tl doesn't seem to be a diplomatic solution at this moment, but at least diplomatic efforts are being made. and it's also important to point out, yasmin, that yes, joe biden does want to resurrect the nuclear deal, but i don't think it's at the top of his agenda. for iran, it's very high up on the agenda to get the united states back on board on this deal. as you and i have discussed many times the iranian economy is in serious trouble. it still remains in serious trouble. and if they can't get the u.s. back on that deal, sanctions
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will remain. the economy will continue to deteriorate. and that poses a serious problem for the regime in teheran because then they could face domestic unrest and that's the last thing they want. so they are very keen to get the deal back on track. but at the same time, they don't want to look to eager or too anxious. but, also, it's important to point out, yasmin, that these attacks are also a message from iran to the united states that, you know, these proxies that they have in the region give them tangible power and they're not willing to give that up in any negotiations beyond the nuclear deal. >> well, and in a way, the way that iran works, you and i both know and so many other folks that reported on iran, is that this is a way in which iran feels like they can maintain relevancy on the world stage and it's something they'll continue to do so long as this negotiation has not been sealed. and as you mentioned, they are
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incredibly desperate to get something done because the country is just in tatters. my friend, ali, thank you as always. appreciate it. by the way coming up at 4:00 p.m., david ignatius with the washington post joining me with reaction to the u.s. air strikes plus, perspective on the damning intelligence report on the jamal khashoggi. you were just watching president joe biden heading to wilmington, delaware. he was exiting marine one and heading there for his weekend get away. as we go to break, everybody, a reminder the fda could approve its find -- could have its final approval of the latest vaccine to combat covid at any moment. we're keeping an eye on that and bring you the latest as it happens. but first still ahead, everybody, a shining example of how trump continues to divide his party on display at nowhere else cpac. how conservatives are setting the tone for the former president's first speech since leaving office. now he actually thinks he's a god.
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welcome back, everybody. we have new developments in a very closely watched case. lady gaga's french bulldogs were returned safely to an l.a. police station after a violent abduction. the dogs were taken on wednesday night in an attack that including the shooting of the pop singer's dog walker, ryan fisher, being shot. he's now in critical condition. but he is, in fact, stable. with me is kevin recollecter, l.a.p.d. reporter with the l.a. times. a lot of folks have been following this story very closely and the developments. there's somewhat of a happy ending that the dogs have now been subsequently returned by a woman, but how is it that the police department has figured -- that this person who returned the dogs was actually not involved? >> well, that's a question that a lot of people have. the l.a.p.d. said the woman brought the dogs to a police station saying that she believed they belonged to lady gaga. i spoke with the head of the
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robbery homicide division for the lapd last night, he told me that preliminary information suggests that the woman is unaffiliated and uninvolved in the attack on wednesday night. although it's an on going investigation. and he wouldn't go into the details as to how this woman came to be with the dogs, where she may have come into possessing them, how she did so. so there's a lot of questions that remain there. he did tell me that lady gaga's representatives were in contact with the woman at the police station last night. so, i don't know that we'll be able to confirm if the woman does, indeed get the reward that lady gaga offered, but that reward has presented some complications for police who are remaining focussed on the shooting. >> are they any closer to figuring out who then actually did this and the motivation?
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>> he told me last night that after the return of the dogs they were no closer to identifying the suspects. they still did not have names of any suspects. and so that raises its own questions as to the degree to which the return of the dogs provides any leads or new information that police can pursue. although we know that police have been sort of scouring the area for footage of the incident. i obtained some ring footage from a neighbor's porch myself which captures some of the shooting. police have that video as well. so they're trying to piece together how this crime occurred. they're trying to find the license plate of the car in which the two assailants jumped out before shooting the dog walker, ryan fisher. so the investigation is very much on going. >> all right, kevin recter, we'll follow this. hope you bring any new developments as you have it. from "the la times." let's go over to georgia. a month or so after losing a
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my administration has taken the most aggressive action in modern history to control our borders and protect americans from the coronavirus. as you know, we took in
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approximately 40 people. they were americans. and they may have had it. some had it. but they were put in quarantine. and it's working out. and we've done a great job. and i've gotten to know these professionals. they're incredible. and everything is under control. i mean, they're very, very cool. they've done it. and they've done it well. everything is really under control. >> half a million people later, by the way. under control. so that's what happened last year. that was former president trump, as you all well know, down playing the coronavirus at cpac last year. tomorrow, the former president is returning to the stage there in orlando, florida, essentially. this time aiming to reassert his control over the republican party after losing the election. the party has already spent the first couple days at cpac praising him and spreading the baseless claim that the election was stolen. >> on january the 6th, i
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objected during the electoral college certification. >> donald j. trump ain't going anywhere. >> they want to erase our history and replace with their crazy markist theories. >> president trump from his desk at mar-a-lago will accomplish for more american in the next four years than joe biden and kamala harris could ever dream of. >> josh hawley, ted cruz with a tan, i shall say. oh, there's ally vitale covering this for us in orlando, florida. good to see you. i feel like we're going back a little bit. it's like deja vu for a moment. vitale, take us through the highs and lows of what we've been seeing at cpac as we're anticipating the former president's speech around this time tomorrow afternoon. >> reporter: yeah, yasmin, the big message coming out of this conservative conference is that this is the party of donald trump. there are some republican
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leaders in washington, d.c. making an argument that he should not be the leader of the party going forward. here, that is not even a question on the table. this is his party both in persona because they view him as the leader of this movement, but also in terms of the ideology that we have seen espoused here. a lot of the conversations that we've seen have hinged on grievances that trump himself has aired in the waning days of his presidency. that's probably what we're going to hear from him when he does come here tomorrow night. but in the meantime, we've heard from a lot of trump allies who if donald trump doesn't run in 2024, have really put forth a case here for why they should assume the trump mantle. this conference were happening in any other state, maybe in iowa or new hampshire, you would look at the roster here at cpac and start having a very different conversation about the lawmakers who think they might try to become president as a republican in 2024. one of those is potentially former secretary of state mike pompeo who was threading that needle here today, espousing
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that america first ideology of former president donald trump while also trying to endear himself with loyal conservative base. check it out. >> i hear president biden say, america is back. back to what? so, back to palettes cash to the ayatollah build missiles that threaten us. back to apologizing when iranians tell sailors to take to their knees at gunpoint. back to president biden killing pipeline. back to -- back to all the things that put america -- >> reporter: now, in terms of what we might hear from the former president tomorrow, i'm told we're not likely to hear anything explicit about his intentions for 2024, but that this is going to be a future-looking speech. he's going to be laying out some changes that he would like to see codified in various states in relation to voting. it's supposed to be scripted.
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they're still working on it today, i'm told. at the same time, i have covered enough trump rallies where he has been on script and very quickly veered off of it. one of the things that could come from that is while it's not explicitly in the remarks right now that he will seek to revive and relitigate the 2020 election that he falsely says was stolen from him, this is a friendly audience. we have seen trump sort of go off on tangents before here. that could be something that happens here today. that could be something, too, that republican voters here might want to hear. republicans in d.c. may be a little weary for the president to come out and make his post-oval office debut. yasmin? >> yeah. i bet a lot of folks are waiting on the edge of their seats wondering exactly what the former president is going to be saying. ali, just quickly, i'm curious, has there been any mention of january 6th so far from any of the speakers? and how have they framed it? >> reporter: there has. and you played a little bit of it before we started talking.
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senator josh hawley was one of those senators who objected to the certification of election results in states like arizona where the former president trump lost to now president joe biden. hawley explicitly referenced that saying i objected to those results. and i have to tell you, he was one of the speakers here yesterday who got the most positive reception from the room. a lot of these speakers, the current senators included, people like ted cruz, tom cotton, rick scott, they all had pretty similar messaging themes. a lot of red meat for the base, a lot of lambasting and roasting democrats including joe biden and democratic leaders. but hawley was the one who got the most positive reception here. and he referenced the fact that people have tried to cancel him, he says. but clearly at this conference this is a place where the audience feels very friendly towards him and the ideas that he has espoused. >> and hawley raised a fist to the rioters and the protesters on the steps of the capitol as he reentered the building. >> yeah, exactly. >> on january 6th.
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as ali was talking you were watching live pictures of cpac as it was taking place. nbc's ali vitale for us. good to see you. more than a dozen house rms are attending cpac and they're facing backlash over voting by proxy on the covid relief bill. matt gaetz are being criticized after they said they couldn't attend the bill vote due to the, quote, public health emergency instead choosing to attend the conservative conference. this is coming after last summer at the height of the pandemic, when many of those same house republicans pushed back against allowing lawmakers to vote by proxy over traveling concerns, even leading to a lawsuit over it. also, californians among those anxiously awaiting the arrival of further relief from the covid bill. the state has lost nearly 52,000 people, more than any other to covid-19 with more on how this bill could help is msnbc scott
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cohn. talk us through this exactly how this covid bill is really going to boost the economy especially in california. >> reporter: well, first of all, yasmin, when you're talking about california, the first thing that comes to mind is scale. this, of course, is america's most populous state, so the need is on that scale. for small businesses behind me, get more assistance and more targeted assistance to businesses like restaurants and mom and pop businesses, but also this bill, as opposed to the past covid relief bills includes some direct assistance for state and local governments. some $350 billion that had been resisted in the past primarily by republicans who said that it was a give away to mismanaged cities and states. well, the california budget is in better shape than some of the earlier dire predictions but local governments in california are hurting in a big way. for example, los angeles,
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looking at a $750 million budget shortfall now delaying the paying of some bills. and fresno's the state's fifth largest city is looking at about $25 million budget shortfall. and the mayor there says that could account -- be the equivalent of some 250 first responders, police officers and firefighters. he is notably a republican. he says the need crosses party lines. >> i would just encourage the folks that are making the decision on this rescue plan that take off the red tie and take off their blue tie and to do what's right for the people. and to recognize the fact that there are people in local communities that are hurting. there are local governments that are struggling. and we need them to make good decisions for us and to do so quickly. >> reporter: mayor insists that fresno has been very well managed, in fact, has the most
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solvent pension systems in the state and the country. he says the need is very, very much there. yasmin? >> yeah. it may very well be folks like the mayor that the president was referring to earlier when he called it a bipartisan bill and many republicans across the country are in support of this covid relief bill but not necessarily republicans in congress. msnbc scott cohn for us. coming up at 4:00 p.m., texas congressman lloyd doggett with more on the covid relief bill. we're still waiting for word from the fda on its final approval of the new johnson & johnson vaccine and bring you the latest as it happens coming up. also, a number of those charged in the capitol insurrection were men and women who once served and protected others. our next guest explores the connection between extremists and law enforcement. jason johnson in the spotlight coming up next. (dad vo) i saw them out of the corner of my eye. just a blur when they jumped the median.
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we know that members of the militia groups that were present on january 6th have stated their desires that they want to blow up the capitol and kill as many members as possible with a direct nexus to the state of the union. >> a terrifying warning from the acting capitol hill police chief as charges against those involved in the deadly riot continue to pile up. among those involved an alarming number of current and former military and law enforcement officials, a retired nypd cop and an ex-marine thomas webster surrendered to the fbi earlier this week and faces six counts remitted to the attack after this video showed him assaulting capitol officers and leading a stampede. in this week's installment of "in the spotlight" we're looking at jason johnson's new podcast a word with jayson johnson, his very first episode dives into
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how it illuminated ties between violent white national lists and u.s. law enforcement. take a listen. >> what is it about white supremacy and white nationalism that is so attractive to these mediocre white guys, because it makes them feel tough for once and they think they'll be luke squie walker in their own fantasy film and next steve rogers captain america or they're mad because they're mediocre white guys and have a world shared with different kinds of people? >> yes. all of the above. if you look at the fighters on the capitol, the people who stormed the capitol, these young men are all literally dressing up like special forces soldiers to these people, the boogaloo boys think they're joint special. >> exactly. >> it's so true talking about kind of the makeup that you saw on the capitol hill steps as i was there reporting so many of them were dressed up that way. here with me now actually is jason johnson, msnbc political
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contributor and a host of podcast a word with jason johnson. it's so good. congratulations on having it be out. >> thank you. >> first time yesterday. really good job. let's talk about that a little bit more per the recruiting that's happening overall and the encouragement in that it seems as if so many of these white nationalists and white supremacist groups are encouraging their followers to go get military and law enforcement experience. >> yeah. that's one of the main things that malcolm nance and i also an msncb contributor talked about. it's this idea that first they're radicalized online. they're reached out through video games or just go to particular websites and people are telling them, hey, go become a cop. go join the military. first off, you might get sent overseas you get to shoot brown people but you'll get the kind of training that you need to come back and fight people here. and one of the really dangerous
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things that we talk about in this in the podcast a word is these men are oftentimes unsuccessful in other parts of their lives. a bunch of george zimmerman's basically. part mall cop guys they want to feel tough. joining these guys they can brandish guns and engage in violence it empowers them. it's not just an issue of calling this violence out, going to the places they're being recruited and, hey, look, you got to purge these people before they become a larger army than they are now. >> and you guys talked about this really well in that many of them were trusted on january 6th to not do what they ended up doing because of the color of their skin, because they were white. >> yeah. yeah. look, much of what we saw and i put this contrast in because republicans talk about this often. they talk about, well, we had
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black lives matters riot last summer and that's no difference what you saw prior to protests for black lives matter is you saw dozens of state capitols being attacked by mobs of mostly angry white people screaming about mask mandates. so these guys had already seen, oh, you know what, if we engage in violence, if we push the limits here, if we try and break down and get in the capitol and threaten to hang mike pence, we're probably not going to face any real consequences. what america needs to understand is that if these groups are not taken out, you can't stop anybody for having any ideology that you want, but what you can stop people engaging in violence, if we don't do this, then our country is in the beginning of a slow-moving insurrection that one day will be a successful coup and look back on times like this, hey, why weren't we more aggressive about knocking somebody out of the police force who expressed racist terminology or getting people out of the body 3%
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markings on their body before we send them to iraq. >> some of the folks i spoke to one of which is a former law enforcement individual who identified himself as part of a militia, they feel as if they're back in this constitutionalist era, right, they're defending their country, their homeland, their house. you know, i should basically be armed with a gun because the government is coming after me and that's why we're here. it's just incredible to see and also in your podcast, you and malcolm talk about the racism that malcolm felt inside of the military which i thought was astounding to hear. so your podcast is great, jason. and i want to encourage everybody to go and take a listen to it. >> thank you. >> jason johnson, thank you so much. congratulations. i'm sure so much more good stuff to come. by the way, tune in and subscribe to the brand new a word with jason johnson podcast wherever you get your podcast. new episodes are out every friday. let me know what podcast you love, by the way. send me your suggestions at
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the memory of his mother, of course, is not that long in the past. but, you know, to court actually media attention like this, to do a splashy interview like this, sign deals with spotify and netflix, it does strike a lot of brits as something like hypocrisy. >> lit milk and sugar. >> yeah. put it out in. >> a prince who hides from the headlines. >> it was destroying my mental health. >> once again all over them. a day after prince harry's interview with actor and friend james corden about fatherhood, philanthropy and bidding farewell to his royal life. >> i did what any husband and what any father would do is i need to get my family out of here. >> reporter: laying blame on britain's toxic media for driving him and meghan from royal duties. >> if i was in his shoes i would feel the same. >> i think prince harry is obviously very sensitive to the media. considering what happened to his mother. >> reporter: the queen stripped
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the duke and duchess of sussex of their patronages and honorary military appointments last week but the couple is still stealing the spotlight. harry's bus tour released just hours after a rare personal message from the queen about vaccines. >> it's obviously difficult for people to -- if they've never had a vaccine. they ought to think about other people rather than themselves. >> reporter: a heart to heart with open rarks a guest at their 2018 wedding airs next sunday. the same day as the queen's commonwealth message. >> mixed messaging one hand they're saying i want to be be alone and on the other they're on open top buses with james corden and over in oprah winfrey's studio. >> reporter: the many here see yet another royal life swallowed by media scrutiny. >> if you live by the media you die by the media as well. this is the story of harry and meghan. >> reporter: so, if this couple had hoped to avoid media scrutiny in the new year, the death -- excuse me, the birth of their second child coming up in the next couple of months that's
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going to make it tough to avoid the spotlight. it's really just going to enflame the media interest in this couple. especially now that they're in l.a. yasmin? >> matt bradley for us. good to see you. coming up in the next hour, we're watching and waiting for the expected fda final approval of the new johnson & johnson vaccine and bring you the latest as we get it. also, new york prosecutors have millions upon millions of trump's taxes but the clock, it is ticking. what officials hope to find before they run out of time. and texas congressman lloyd doggett live with more on the covid relief bill plus his state state's storm recovery efforts. stay with us. 6/ . orts stay with us 6/
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welcome back, everybody i'm yasmin vossoughian. any moment now we could get the official fda approval of a new vaccine in the fight against covid. we're watching that closely and we're going to have it when it happens. the white house meanwhile putting on the full court press for vaccine delivery, money for suffering families and much more as both the president and vice president pushing for the senate now to act on the covid relief bill. >> we have no time to waste. if we act now, decisively, quickly and boldly we can finally get ahead of this virus. we can finally get our economy moving again. and the people of this country have suffered far too much for too long. >> what we need to do is pass the american rescue plan so we can get those $1,400

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