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good afternoon, i'm katy tur, a third major weapon to fight back against covid-19 is rolling off of the line and rolls out. if all goes well johnson and johnson may be the blow that covid never saw coming. it is only one don't and it does not need to be stored in super cold temperatures that means more vaccines for rural and under served communities that don't have that kind of storage. no doubt there is a lot of frustration out there. if you tried and tried to get an appointment for yourself and
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someone else, please keep trying. here is why the news today is so critical and such a reason for hope. even before the johnson and jaux vaccine was approved the biden administration approved enough of the pfizer and moderna vaccines to be delivered by july. so far nearly 50 million americans have received at least one dose nap is 15% of the population. the man in charge of the covid-19 team says the news is even more hopeful for many of the most vulnerable. >> people over 75, nearly 60% of them have received at least their first shot. that was only 14% five weeks ago. that was 8% six weeks ago, but there is a long way to go and we
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need to make sure that it is as fast as possible and equitably as possible. >> in the meantime the number of americans gets vaccinated every day is going up. the number of new case social security going down. the lowest since october. >> at this level a case that is spreading we stand to lose the hard earned ground that we have made. now is not the time to relax the safe guards that could stop the spread of activity in our communities. >> here is the question that so many people are asking.
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the johnson and johnson vaccine is 72% efficacy, but experts say that is an unfair comparison. they were tested at different times and in different places. and j and j was being tested as dangerous variants were spreading. so the bottom line is get any of these vaccines, they're all safe, they're all very effective, and keep you out of the hospital and keep you and the people you love from dieing from covid-19. vaccines are the keys to unlocking us from these lock downs. saving our lives. joining me now is alison barber who is in kentucky. vaughn hilliard is also joining us. thank you everybody for being here. alison you saw as the first j
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j&j vaccines were rolled out, what was it like out there? >> yeah, workers cheered and put the boxes on to the ups truck to send it away. we looked as they made their way out of this parking lot. i want to take you inside so you can see what we saw. there was a moment where workers here also signed their names on one of the boxes and wrote well wishes and wrote "be healthy" before they got that box to the ups truck. if we can let's just watch that together. [ applause ] it is always surreal watching a moment like this. i was at the pfizer plant when we saw the vaccines make their
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way out and make their way to the public. there is always a moment when the truck starts to go but it stops for last minute checks. in a lot of ways it's bittersweet. you know has it moves forward it is crossing into a future and taking a step toward a better more normal world for all of us, less pain, and at the same time you know what is behind it. for us in the united states that is half a million americans that lost their lives because of this virus. and we know it didn't have to be this bad. in some ways i always think in that moment, and i said this when i was at the pfizer plant, is i think of what it must feel like for all of those families to watch a moment like this. i think they must feel so glad and relieved that maybe other families don't have to experience this, but i also think of the people, like a boy, that lost six family members. of a woman who left behind grandchildren and a husband, and
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it must be hard for them to watch this because they might think if it happened sooner it may have been different for them. i think i speak for us of us here that we have not forgotten them. and we know that their lives matter. but this is another step forward. in the case of this vaccine a huge leap forward in is a dose that doesn't have to be kept super super cold and hopefully for us to finally make it out of this pandemic. >> doctor, there are, as we just outlined, questions about efficacy and some unfair comparisons. explain to us why people should just this vaccine? >> thank you, so first i would like to emphasize that all of these vaccines are safe and
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highly effective. the most important thing is for people to get vaccinated. the j and j trial was done in the peak global surge. the studies last fall were done before those conditions were present. it's very difficult to make head to head comparisons. all three of these vaccines are very safe and effective. for j&j it is 85% protection and in the clinical trial 100% protection which is the most important outcome. >> so the good news about this vaccine is that it is one and down. one shot and you don't have to go in for a booster as of now. given there are so many variants out there are you considering adding a booster to combat against those if necessary? >> yes, absolutely. there is work being done to explore the possibility of a
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updated and revised vaccine. the good news is that the large clinical trial has demonstrated that this vaccine is highly effective against the vile variants circulating today including the one that originated in south africa and the similar ones in brazil. so we're very -- we're delighted with the efficacy of this vaccine particularly given the demonstration of efficacy against the variants that are circulating today. >> three is also news that you will be testing the vaccine out on instants, newborns, pregnant mothers. tell us about what those trials will look like. >> so j&j is planning clinical trials in pregnant women and pediatric cohorts down to essentially all ages. this platform has been tested for other vaccines in those
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populations already. so we know this pediatric cohor hope it will be safe and effective in these other populations as well. >> why were pregnant women not included in the initial trials for your vaccine and other vaccines. there is worry that you will take the incentive away from pregnant women in the trials because if they want the vaccine they can go get it. >> it is very common to first confirm that it is safe and effective in nonpregnant adults before going to pregnant adults. the time frames are being compressed so quickly that we
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just learned this vaccine is safe and effective a few weeks ago. it is already being rolled out as of today. the image of the trucks was really moving. so what we had is an acceleration of the process moving from the first demonstration of safety and efficacy to now being rolled out. and so the hope is that we will generate data in the additional populations as quickly as possible. >> what is the time line on that? i believe those studies are going to be starting eminently but i don't have a specific time frame. >> one of the other things about this vaccine, or to underscore one good thing is that it is one
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and done. you're in a rural area with just one pharmacy. what would this mean for that area? >> one and done and you don't need the freezeen. we're an hour outside of roanoke. we're tucked into the markets and there is one pharmacy. one place to get your shot if you're a resident here. this pharmacy is getting people from here and the surrounding areas. there is a waiting list, a backlog that they're having a struggle keeping up with here. that is why i think it is important that we stop here. folks are waiting for these vaccines and that's where i want to bring in the form cyst here.
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do you have the supply needed right now? >> the demand is very high. we do not have snuff supply to meet that command. >> i believe there is still about 90% of folks here in the county that are not vaccinated here at this point. what is your backlog looking like right now? >> right now the backlog is a log list and we're booked out for appointments three weeks out. we're trying to vaccinate as many patients as we possibly can. >> and as fast as we can. >> in virginia today they expanded the folks eligible, but you're still trying to catch up. >> we're still trying to catch up on patient that's are 65 plus. >> what to do you say, these are personal friends and family that you know that you're taking down the names of.
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what does this mean to you? as you're writing down these names? >>. >> we're very happy to be part of this process. to immunize the community. the people are our neighbors and our friends and we're doing all that we can do. we're also very pleased that we have food city support. they own and operate woody's and without their support the tools, resources, infrastructure we would not be able to come as far as we have. >> i think that is an important point. folks heard about the federal pharmacy partnership program, but this is where they're going to send doses. right now they have been relying
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on the state allotments here. they're looking for more doses and that's where the biden administration suggested they will increase the number of doses. right now it is 10% to 15% of the overall doses and that is why they're looking to ahead to pleases like this. >> thank you very much for joining us. congratulations on the approval. it is an exciting day. with me now is rick gates. rick, not the rick that we have been covering in years past, a different rick gates. thank you for joning us.
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talk to me about how you are deciding who gets what and where. there are place that's are relatively easy, but there are a lot of pharmacies that don't have that. so how are you deciding who gets what? >> first i'm glad to be on with you today and we share your enthusiasm. i think the more vaccine we get the better we can accelerate the process itself. i think it is very important what you just asked. and i think what they were saying is states determine what vaccines we get, and obviously that is added through the state or through the federal retail pharmacy program. and our job is to make sure we can get access of the vaccines out into all of the communities
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that we serve. so i think what you will see is that we need more vaccine. i think that is absolutely what we need. and we can absolutely start to accelerate from there and start to get into some of the community that's have been really heavily hit by covid. >> i think some people might consider this vaccine to be special or scarier in a way than other vaccines. they might say "i want to be in a doctor's office" or a hospital. they may get their flu vaccine at a pharmacy or a walgreens. what are they doing to shore up the tres and those getting the vaccines out for you. >> first of all we have 35,000 to 45,000 at the end of the day, trained immunizers. and we have been immuniing for over ten years.
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i think there is a lot of backlog to those wanting to get the shots themselves. we always had safety protocols in place. whether or not it is serious or a single dose, and what you're going to see in the safety protocols after the fact, monitoring patients for 15 minutes. ensuring no allergic reaction, they're all normal procedures that we have in our storing and everyone should feel comfortable and confident that the pharmacy is a great place to support. >> what have you been told about your allotment, how much are you expecting next? >> so that is the thing we're all waiting on, right? four million vaccines being distributed right now. a big portion of that is going to states. if you think about that in the last few weeks it went from a
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million doses going to 15 pharmacy entities and two million doses in the last couple weeks. we anticipate it is going to go up. but we're still waiting to hear, to get the vaccine, get into the communities and vaccinate. >> what is your policy for any left overvaccine you might have at the end of the day. will you distribute it? >> i would say that the off sites that is more of an opportunity for us. we try to take enough for off site so we can vaccinate those that signed up for it. what is good now is they have a shelf life, we can still leverage them.
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so i think placed on demand -- >> if you walk into a walgreens, and you say are there any leftover, is that a thing? >> we want everyone to have a safe and effective way. we want to stick to schedules. we had safety protocols to make sure that we use them and then we go on from there. >> rick, congratulations again. >> thank you. >> what we know about the biden administration's plan to reunite them here in the united states. and later residents of mississippi's largest city are still without clean water and we
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don't know when they're going to be able to get it back on. >> first an apology from andrew cuomo after a second allegation that he acted inappropriately.
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andrew cuomo has been accused of inappropriate behavior. last week the former special advisor lindsey boylen accused him of actually harassment as well. joining me now from new york city is ann thompson. so ann, what more do we know? >> well katie, this afternoon they have the subpoena coming in and governor cuomo is scrambling to do damage roll. >> a second former staff member
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is alleging sexual harassment. a former assistant and health policy advisor saying the governor verbally harassed her last spring with questions about her relationships and sex life. he asked me if i believed that i could be with an older man. i acknowledged some of the things i said may have been misinterpreted. to anyone that felt that way i'm truly sorry about that. in an essay on medium last week, boylen detailing harassment describing two separate interactions with the governor says he asked her to her to play
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strip poker and gave her an uninvited kiss a year ago. the embattled governor wrote a book on the topic is now also under fire for questions over the coronavirus death count in nursing homes and his controversial policy of sending hospitalized infected patients back into homes early on. >> in the deaths, the nursing homes, and the hospitals were always fully publicly and accurately reported. >> now following pressure from fellow democrats, cuomo has agreed today refer to the harassment matter to the state attorney general's office to appoint an independent investigator. the white house weighing in on sunday. >> president biden has been consistent that he believes every woman should be heard, treated with respect, and dignity. there should be an independent review looking into these
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allegations. >> and today speaker nancy pelosi joined the chorus calling for an independent investigator putting out a statement saying the women that put forward serious charges deserve to be heard and treated with dignity. they must have due process and respect for everyone involved. katy? >> ann, thank you very much. and coming up, it is not just texas. jackson, mississippi is on week two without running water. is there even a time line to get it back on. >> first up, tearing down the trump policy on family separation at the border. the biden administration is making a major mae culpa. mae ca
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we're dedicated to achieving and working around the clock to replait the cruelty of the past administration with an orderly humane and safe immigration process. >> the biden administration took
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a massive step forward today in reversing the trump administration's policy calling it cruel. the biden task force on family reunification will allow families to be reunited in their country of origin or here in the united states. the government will try to find legal path ways for those people that's do choose to state here. joining me now is julia ainsley. walk us through all of the details of this plan. >> so this plan, these details, are things that my colleagues have been asking the biden administration about since the beginning days. it is a transition. will they bring deported parents back to the united states to reunite with their children?
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and the answer we're getting today is yes. they are looking at giving parents the option of coming back to the united states. not only that, katy, they want to look at siblings who are siblings of the children who are separated to see if they need to be reunited with their parents. they want to provide legal services, education, health care, mental health care, and make sure that not a penny of that gets passed down to these families. this is a 180 from the former administration in so many ways. one way is on that mental health care. steven miller as we reported here killed a d.o.j. settlement that would have required the government to pay more mental health services. now we're seeing a step forward to pay for the services and to get specific protections for parents that have been deported. and that takes the choice off of these parents minds if they have to decide between bringing their children back to a country with
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unsafe conditions or being separated from their child indefinitely. >> what about the parents separated reunited with them or reunited in another country of origin. could they come back here? >> we have not gotten details on that. had when i was looking through exactly how their spelling this out today they did say for separated families. and that is something that we have been staying on top of. the aclu and other lawyers say even those reunited should be given special protections because of the cruelty they endured. if they chose to be reunited including deportation, because they had to take deportation to see their child again they had to be given the same special protections. we have not gotten that commitment yet, but we will keep asking those questions. >> peter, julia described this
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as a complete 180. it feels like that but it feels like a major problem. we're sorry for what the united states did to you and for the trauma we caused. we will find a legal path way to citizenship. for you. >> there is so many areas on immigration, and there has not been too many policies put in place by the trump administration than this family separation policy. that is one that was not just popular among it is a conference talking about immigration
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policies and how that is a return to the open borders of the past and so forth, but they might find that bringing people back in after being reported, against the administration on this subject, but this is not the only policy that this biden administration will reverse. and congress will take up the bill at some point, a path way to citizenship. >> and they say advocation is the only safe way to ensure protections in the future. the dhs secretary says he wants to make a change where you're not going to separate families permanently. could there be a separate legislative path way for that? >> we learned of the nature of
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them in the last two or three administrations, right? daca allowed immigrants to stay. they lived here manslaughter of their lives. president trump tried to reverse that. the orders on anymore graduation there, locking in a policy of administration through administration is throughed administration. at that point it is much harder to reverse. immigration is such a flash point and they weren't able to get a deal on immigration even though there is points in the administration. there is no guarantee they will be more or less successful. there is some back and forth and policy on and policy off that we
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have seen in the last few years. >> thank you guys for coming on. i appreciate it. coming up, a week before the trial prosecutors are trying to reinstate third degree murder charges for the officer accused of killing george floyd. the big difference it could make on his sentence. no running water for two weeks and no concrete time line on when it is coming back on. and no, we're not talking about texas. no, we're not talking abo texas. antibacterial or moisturizing body wash? definitely moisturizer! antibacterial can i have both? new dove care & protect body wash eliminates 99% of bacteria and moisturizes for hours two for one! can i keep it? new dove care & protect, zero compromise!
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imagine no clean water for weeks. no water to wash clothes, to water to flush toilets. it's not texas. it's jackson, mississippi where some residents are on day 14 with no water.
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overs who do have it are being told to boil it because it's not safe. it's all because of last month's deep freeze. but for jackson it is nothing new. residents are now pointing fingers at those in charge. joining me now is one of those leaders. mr. mayor, thank you so much for joining us. first off a simple question. when are all of the residents of jackson, mississippi going to have their water back? >> we know that we are towards the tail end of our journey. the overwhelming majority have seen water restoration, but as the pressure is lost in the system our challenge is how we get it from the point of inception where it first comes into the water stream facility and push it all of the way from that facility to refill the tanks at the further tank it has to travel. so we know that residents are
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starting to get it closer to that further point. so it is a system that doesn't indicate to us when all of the tanks will be filled. how it journeys through all of the pipes. when mains will break in the process of trying to restore that water. we understand our residents frustration and we continue to work around the clock to restore everyone's water service. >> the frustration at 14 days without water. and you can't give them a clear time line for when it will be fixed. i mean why in the world not? it's 2021. >> yeah, well, unfortunately the water treatment facilities that the city of jackson has, that many legacy cities have, were not built in 2021. they were not built for weatherized capacity. not only do we have anyoned
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infrastructure, but we have more extreme weather conditions and more rainy seasons that all take a toll. the city of jackson was not built, or it's water treatment facilities were not built to withstand weather in the teens. especially for the prolonged here of time that that was sustained. it lead to valves freezing, and water we were able to provide and consequently led to the struggles that our residents have been facing in the last few -- >> you called this an act of god and yeah, it got very cold the other week, but there was also a cold snap in 2018 that caused a similar issue in jacksonville, mississippi. what did you do to prevent things like this from happening.
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you were mayor back then what did you do to prevent things like this from happening again? >> it is hundreds of machines of dollars. the city of jackson does not have any in the conference. we have reinvested in a new shelter. unfortunately the weather didn't consult with us before that was able to be built. this is years and decades of neglect that we need state and federal support to deal with as we have seen so many of my
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colleagues and so many of our neighbors have been facing similar issues because of ages infrastructure not meant to accommodate the increased severe weather we see now. >> so you're saying you need state and federal help. you also said that whenever the governor of mississippi has not had a missed call from you, so when you called the governor and presumably you brought this up that you need this money, what has he told you? >> he recently allocated some tanks that we could use for non-potable water. we have to use every resource that we have. >> what about strengthening the infrastructure, what about making sure this does not happen again? >> that is what we have been
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indicating for quite some time. we were allocated funds through a water bill that the no new starts bans, but the resources that have been laid out to come to the city of jackson then there is critical infrastructure to support in a much stronger way. this is where we are. we are in a reactive mode, trying to fix the bike while we're riding it. >> let me ask you another question. it has a lot of people understandably upset. 80% of the residents of jackson are plaque. local outlets report that the only part of your city that had no issues was northeast jackson
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that is predominantly white. what is that? >> first, that is inaccurate. water service was hurt across the city. some areas had water restored sooner and that is because they're closer to the water treatment facility. i do believe there are equity questions that need to be addressed in terms of how people's services are provided and the infrastructure that is used to support our city, but those are questions that really go back into planning and developing of the city many, many years ago. people are living in cities where the resources are harder to get to. those are real questions to confront, but in terms of whether or not someone is at a water treatment facility choosing to turn on water in one location or the next, that's not the way it works.
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the system pushes water through pipes, fills tanks based on the way they were laid out some 60 years ago. that is what is deciding it. >> sounds like the system is in desperate need of updating. thank you. so for joining us. we appreciate your time, sir. coming up, the effort to strengthen murder charges against derek chauvin, the officer accused of killing george floyd. george floyd ed to ♪ ♪i can't believe it myself.♪ ♪suddenly i'm up on top of the world...♪ maybe it is dirtier than it looks. ♪should've been somebody else...♪ it is dirtier than it looks. try new tide hygienic clean. there are many reasons for waiting to visit your doctor right now. but if you're experiencing irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue or light-headedness, don't wait to contact your doctor. because these symptoms could be signs of a serious condition like atrial fibrillation.
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we are one week away from the start of the murder trial for derek chauvin, one of the officers accused of killing george floyd. this afternoon the minnesota court of appeals heard arguments from lawyers to reinstate third degree murder charges against chauchbl. in addition to manslaughter and second-degree murder. cal, how did it go? >> reporter: well, the hearing has just wrapped up. we did not expect a decision today. it is like you we won't have a decision for a few more weeks. the trial starts in earnest on monday. that's when we'll see a jury being picked. this was about the charges.
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third degree murder being put back on derek chauchbl. a county judge removed the charges of second-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. third degree murder comes with sentencing guidelines of 153 months in prison, that's 12 1/2 years. that's why prosecutors, the minnesota attorney general wants to add that back in giving the jury one more thing to cover will worth mentioning, these are just the state charges. we are waiting for federal charges. if you listen to what merrick garland said about this administration and the importance of civil rights, you can expect charges to follow at some point this year. >> and what's going on in the city right now? there are all these reports of barricades going up all around the courthouse preparing for some potential unrest at the start of the trial. >> yeah. barriers are going up not just around the courthouse but in the center as well as the capitol in
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st. paul. they're calling it operation safety net. there will be thousands of law enforcement officers between 12 agencies, according to the mayor, and they're trying to get out in front of any demonstrations. for example the street outside the court has been shut from today and it is from today that you will see the uptick in law enforcement presence, leading to really, i would say this sum where the jury finally has to make a decision. that's when you will see the thousands of officers including national guard, katy. >> thanks. so. we're following a little bit of breaking news at the end of this hour. nbc news has learned that former president trump and former first lady melania trump both received the covid vaccine back in january. the trumps got the shot while they were still at the white house. there was no disclosure from the administration at the time, let alone a public event to promote that vaccines are safe and effective. up clear why they wouldn't want to advertise that they got the vaccine and tell everybody that
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good afternoon, everyone. i'm in new york. at this minute the senate is back in session at the beginning of a week expected to be dominated by the fight over a covid relief package with fewer than two weeks until enhanced
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unemployment benefits run out. there will be more hearings investigating the january 6th riots on capitol hill. our legal correspondentari melber is standing by to discuss that with us and more. next hour, president biden will meet virtually with mexico's president obrador shortly after alexander mayorkas met to discuss separating children at the border. and asked asylum seekers waiting in mexico for patience. >> we are not saying don't come. we are saying don't come now. because we'll be able to deliver a safe and orderly process to them as quickly as possible. >> just moments ago, our newsroom learned that former president donald trump and former first lady


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