tv MSNBC Live With Katy Tur MSNBC March 17, 2021 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
good afternoon. as we come on the air today, there are a lot of new developments coming in at times by minute into the mass shooting spree at three atlanta area day spas. eight people were shot, six of those were killed, and they were of asian descent while two were white. and all but one of those killed were women. the suspect, who was in police custody, is 21-year-old robert aaron long. the cherokee county georgia sheriff's office says he's now been charged so far with four counts of murder and one count of aggravated assault. authorities say he is speaking about the shootings, and i want to underscore here, this is what authorities say he says was his
motive. >> i know that many have received a number of calls about, is this a hate crime. we're still early in this investigation, so we cannot make that determination at this moment. again, we are very early in this investigation. even though we have made an arrest, there is still a lot more work to be done. >> he made indicators that he has some issues, potentially sexual addiction, and may have frequented some of these places in the past. >> he claims that these -- as the chief said, it's still early, but he does claim it was not racially motivated. he apparently has an issue, what he considers a sex addiction, and sees these locations as something that allows him to go to these places, and it's a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate. >> to be clear, that is what the
suspect is telling police. there is still a lot that we do not know. atlanta's lance bottoms provided a little more detail that plils -- police have determined he was on his way to florida when he was captured. the mayor said she believes he was on his way, perhaps, to perform additional shootings. he made one point crystal clear. >> obviously, whatever the motivation was for this guy, we know that many of the victims, the majority of the victims were asian. we also know that this is an issue that's happening across the country. it is unacceptable, it is hateful, and it has to stop. >> joining me now is msnbc news correspondent kathy park who is in atlanta and investigations
correspondent tom winter. i apologize, i misspoke at the top. eight people are dead. so, tom, the investigation is still ongoing. we got that motive, perhaps, or something surrounding a motive from the spokesperson down there for law enforcement. what more do you know about the investigation? >> well, katy, a couple details coming in focus here in the last hour. first off on the gun, it's a .9-millimeter handgun, and senior law enforcement officials we've spoken with in the reporting of myself and mike cosner, that gun was illegally purchased yesterday, obviously before this shooting. georgia state law provides no sort of waiting period or what's commonly referred to as a cooling off period. in other words, you can purchase a gun legally in the state of georgia as long as there is no background check hit and there is no indication that the suspect, who you identified as robert aaron long, had no history with law enforcement that would preclude him from purchasing a weapon. as long as that's not the case,
you can fork over the cash and pick up the gun. it's just that simple in the state of georgia. so that gun was illegally purchased. that's a bit of new information. on something you've been speaking to and alluding to here, the best information that law enforcement has is information they've derived from the person they say actually did it. in speaking with him and taking responsibility for this shooting, and i think that they're keying in on right now -- because i asked them, if this is somebody who had a sex addiction and his whole motive for doing this was to end any sort of temptation, why choose these businesses which may be asian owned? why choose these addictions that are predominantly asian? why not go to a strip club or something like that? apparently there was indication he had visited these particular day spas, and so he was going
after that specific temptation. now, obviously, the backdrop of all of this, and you heard the atlanta police chief ronnie bryant say it so clearly, it is still an ongoing investigation, so you still need to go through any potential social media accounts, you still need to speak to living relatives. we know one is injured and is believed to have survived their injuries. as you start to speak to people, is there anything which conflicts with the suspect's account, and perhaps the motive changes or perhaps it solidifies what he's already told police. we'll just have to wait and see, katy. >> so whatever the motivation here, anti-asian hate crime violence is on the rise. president biden just spoke about it. what more can you tell us on that? >> reporter: katy, that is absolutely right. i think the fact that this investigation is still ongoing and despite the suspect telling
officials that this was not racially motivated, it is hitting the asian american community especially hard, because over the past year, according to a nonprofit organization that has been looking at the reported accounts of anti-asian incidents, it's now 3800 that has been reported. it has gone up exponentially and it's rattled the community on so many levels in new york, in san francisco, in seattle, and officials have actually elevated their presence because of what happened here in atlanta. and we also heard the atlanta mayor earlier this morning saying that she is making all resources in this community available in the wake of this violence. but going back to what you said earlier, we heard from top officials, lawmakers, including the president weighing in. take a listen. >> i'll be speaking about the brutality against asian
americans for the last couple months, and i think it is very, very troubling. but i'm making no connection at this moment to the motivation of the killer. i'm waiting for an answer as the investigation proceeds from the fbi and from the justice department. and that's -- so i'll have more to say when the investigation is completed. >> reporter: earlier today reporters asked officials whether this community should feel any sort of ongoing thread in the wake of this shooting spree, and they were assured that this was just an isolated incident, just one gunman obviously in custody right now. and mr. long's arraignment is set for tomorrow morning, katy. >> this is an isolated incident, yes, maybe, according to authorities, but the violence is
on the rise across the country. tom winter, very briefly, what mayor bottoms was talking about, that he was on his way to florida, that he could have potentially done more of these shootings, potentially been more violent, what do you know about that? >> a couple things came together, katy, that appeared to help law enforcement. the first was his family was cooperative, according to law enforcement officials in georgia. they were able to track him through gps on his phone. they used what's called a pit maneuver. people may have seen that in high-speed chases where the police car comes behind the vehicle they're chasing, bumps it in a way to get it to swerve off the highway or spin around. that's the maneuver they were using there. as far as a specific target for that, law enforcement spoke at that press conference that it may have been an office building or a location associated with the pornography industry in florida. we still need to get more details on that, but that appears to be the intended target for where he was
traveling to next. >> anyone who has watched police pursuits out of los angeles knows the pit maneuver well. thank you both. and president biden talking about the crisis at the border in a new interview. he had a message for parents, many of whom were sending their children across the border alone because they saw it as their only chance of getting in this country. >> the process of getting set up, and it's not going to take a whole long time, is to be able to claim asylum in place. so don't leave your town or community. >> tell them not to come doesn't help the children already here, though. and new questions about whether the biden administration are being fully transparent about the conditions those children are facing in custody. as nbc news first reported,
there is a potential gag order preventing border patrol sharing information with the media, and processing facilities and border agents have been denied. joining me now is julia ainsley and morgan chesky who is in dallas. julia, this gag order and the inability for reporters to see what's going on, what is compelling the biden administration to give less access than it seems the trump administration did? >> well, right now -- you're right, katy, access is key. we want to see the conditions in these facilities. when it was overcrowded in 2018, we were able to understand more of what was going on. they allowed at least pictures of what was going on. we aren't getting anything like that now. when you talk to people running these sectors, the epicenters of the overcrowding, they say,
really, they can't take any requests from the media, it all has to be cleared from washington, and right now the washington press office is just denying pretty much everything across the board. we're getting a reminder of how many children are in police custody. that's not something we get from a spokesperson, we have to dig for that. i'm hearing it's harder to get that information because they want to prevent leaks. one of the few journalists actually came in and got access during trump. they did allow reporters in then because they wanted to show immigrants how cruel their policies were. now with the biden administration, they have a more humane approach, so it could be they don't want to show how dire some of these circumstances could be. >> morgan, you're outside one of the facilities that is being used to process some of the people that are coming across the border, some of these children. what can you tell us about what
you have been able to observe, at least from the outside? >> reporter: katy, i can tell you the request of viewing those facilities close to the border are being denied. we asked if we could see the inside of the convention center where we anticipate several thousand of migrant teens to arrive. i did speak with an attorney who is familiar with the layout. he said it is likened basically to a relief center for hurricane refugees, cots that will be socially distanced. he said these teens, upon arriving, will have access to cleaner positions than what he said they experienced closer to the border. they'll have more space, and they can house up to 3,000 teenagers inside the convention center here. we do know that volunteers have been going in and out. they were very tight-lipped, only saying they're doing what they can to get ready for the
arrival of those first few buses. i want you to listen to what an immigration attorney had to say about how this current situation is playing out and his concern going forward. take a listen. >> my concern is, in the long run, what's happening in the southern border now is going to affect what happens in washington six months from now when they consider president biden's immigration reform policies. >> reporter: parents, when they sent their kids to the u.s., they weren't oblivious to some of the most dangerous crossing of the hemisphere. they cross the homes of drug smuggling, they have to go through cartel country in mexico. they know that. but that tells you how desperate the parents were thinking their kids were safer in america than if they stayed in their home country. >> reporter: while this is the largest city building being used to house the temporary, one over
the weekend took place in midland, texas. governor abbott a few minutes ago said his office got an e-mail from hhs over the weekend, scrambling to find space to put these migrant teens that were overfilling these border facilities. he said it was unknown to him, they just selected that spot in midland to create that additional space there. as it stands right now, hhs officials said they have nine days to utilize this space to connect teens with foster families or with loved ones to await their paperwork here. but we're told that process was typically 60 days. that attorney said he told me the additional month that's been added to it is simply because of the sheer numbers that keep going up. katy? >> it would be nice to believe that everything is going so well in there that the administration doesn't want to advertise that, but i do think reporters and the american public wants to see for themselves how those children are being treated. julia ainsley and morgan chesky,
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for high school students, it looks like they will be available to get vaccinated in the beginning of the fall, very likely for the fall term. with regard to children, we're doing an age de-escalation study in elementary school children from 12 to 9, 9 to 6 and 6 to 2 years. we believe we'll have enough data to be able to vaccinate these young children by the first quarter of 2022. >> big news by the top doctor today on when teens and kids can get the vaccine. joining me now is peter hotez.
he is at texas children's hospital. good to have you. what do you make of what dr. fauci told us about the timeline for teens getting vaccinated this fall? >> i think it's important for two reasons. first of all, because of these b.1.1.7 variant and other variants, the disease is more transmissible than we thought, and what that means is the higher percentage of the american people need to be vaccinated to stop transmission than we originally thought, and to get to 80% vaccinated, we need teenagers immunized as well as adults. the second is ensure school safety. by the fall, if we can have the high school and junior high school staff immunized, staff immunized, that's about as good as it's going to get to make junior high schools and high schools safe for everyone. of course, the elementary schools will be slower in vaccinating that cohort of kids.
not until 2022, as dr. fauci says, and i believe that's about right. let's get the older students vaccinated to keep them and their parents safe. we'll be looking for more vaccinations in this country by the summer and certainly by the fall. >> they're doing the clinical trials on the younger kids right now, as young as, i believe, six months old. what's the difference between doing a clinical trial on children for vaccines and adults? >> we're looking at what are called step-down studies, as dr. fauci mentioned, so you do this in gradual fashion. i don't think we'll be at the real young infants for a little bit yet because we'll confirm adolescents because the pfizer vaccine was approved for up to 16 years of age and older, then we'll do the adolescents, then moving it to the school age kids.
and this is a pretty classic pattern. if you look at how we did influenza vaccinations, for instance, now we approve it for infants six months and older. i think we'll probably be looking at that for covid-19 by 2022. >> you mention influenza. i know that's a shot that certainly my kid got when he was quite young. i'm just curious, as we go ahead, and as this disease mutates, which it inevitably will, i know we get updates for the flu shot every year. when we get updates for the covid shot, are they things we'll need clinical trials, retesting? how does it work if they don't? >> i think what will happen is we don't do a brand new clinical phase trial for the flu vaccine that comes out every year, we do what's called bridging studies confirming that it's safe, and
looking at the immune response moving forward for the vaccine. it will be a little different for covid-19 because i don't think we'll need a brand new covid-19 vaccine every year, even though we're concerned about the variants, which is why we call them variants of concern. the fact is they're convering toward a couple mutations. if you've gotten two doses of the pfizer or moderna vaccine, you'll get a third dose which will be focused on the mutations similar to the south africa one. you might get that one in the fall or early next year. that might be the only one required depending on the durability of protection. with the johnson & johnson vaccine, even though it's a single vaccine right now, don't be surprised if that becomes a two-dose vaccine. the hope is that with two of the moderna and pfizer and one of johnson & johnson, then we're
done. another vaccine could come along in five years or ten years from now. we have to keep monitoring it. >> it's interesting how you talk about the variants that are of concern right now seem to be converging in similar patterns. i would love to have you on to talk about that more when we have more time. dr. peter hotez, thank you so much for today. we appreciate it, as alwaysment. a couple has opened up the vaccine for everyone in mississippi. everyone 16 and up is eligible for a vaccine. with me is msnbc news contributor allison barber. talk to me about what you're seeing down there in mississippi. it's a big thing to open it up to everybody. what do the lines look like?
>> there is going to be very bad weather this afternoon, so because of that a lot of mass vaccination sites have closed. but inside mississippi medical center, they're still vaccinating people and we're seeing young people show up to get vaccinated. we have jimmy here with us. he is 16 years old and he is actually going to let us watch him get his vaccine. he is getting his first dose of the pfizer vaccine. in mississippi anyone over the age of 16 can now get vaccinated if they want to. there goes the poke there. for 16 and 17-year-olds, it's the pfizer vaccine. for 18 and up, it's whichever one you want. jimmy is the only teen we've heard from this this state who say they are excited to get vaccinated, and another said they'll make an appointment as soon as possible. listen here.
>> it's been really hard to just be a teenager, just be a kid. the relationship with my grandmother and my mother, both of them, has been strained. time is precious with them, so just not being able to hug them or see them, it's difficult. >> getting the vaccine is just an act of selflessness. you have to do what you think is right for yourself, for your family and those around you. >> reporter: so when you look at the other state that has already done this, alaska, as you mentioned, their total population that has been fully vaccinated, here in mississippi a bit lower, it's at about 11%, but health officials here felt like they needed to open it up to numbers higher, and they say in terms of the high risk age group, 75 and up, that they have vaccinated 60%.
katy? >> allison barber, thank you. love to see those younger kids, or teenagers, i should say, getting that vaccine. thank you, allison. hail, strong winds and the potential for hail outbreak. you heard allison mention bad weather where she is. we've seen impacts in the south. we have video damage in mississippi. we'll have a development of that situation. more than 14,000 anti-asian incidents in the past year, mostly directed towards women. what is driving this rise in racist harassment and violence, and what can be done to stop it? ? e relapses. all these other things too. who needs that kind of drama? kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection that may help you put this rms drama in its place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions and slowing disability progression versus aubagio.
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i don't think you have to eliminate the filibuster. you have to do what it used to be when i first got to the senate, and that is, a filibuster, you had to stand up and command the floor. once you stop talking, you lost that and someone can move in and say, i move the question of. so you have to work for the filibuster. >> so you're for that reform. you're for bringing back the talking filibuster? >> i am. that's what it was supposed to be. >> president biden says he now supports changing the filibuster rules, sort of. so what else the talking filibuster? right now if any senator wants to block a bill and requires 60 votes to proceed, all it takes it an e-mail. democrats are proposing reverting to the old rules where any senator who wants to block legislation will have to talk
continuously on the senate floor for as long as they want to delay. think of senator ted cruz's memorable 21-hour filibuster in opposition to obamacare back in 2013. >> would you like them here or there? i would not like them here or there, i would not like them anywhere. i do not like green eggs and ham, i do not like them sam-i-many. >> try them, try them, and you may. america may not like it if they went back to the talking filibuster. the senate can still block anything the president wants to do, but the return of the talking filibuster would make the process much less convenient and it would put a public face on gop obstruction. any obstruction period for anyone doing a filibuster. joining me now, new york chief white house correspondent peter baker and punch bowl news
founder jake. good to see you. this is different than what the president said in the past about the filibuster. why the change? >> what he said was he didn't want to get rid of the filibuster. that was a priority for anybody on the left who thought there would be no way to get through sweeping legislation they would like to get through if they wanted to get any votes on climate change, health care, any big subjects. this is the president acknowledging that pressure. he's not saying he wants to get rid of the filibuster entirely, but this is a move toward the progressive side of his party, saying, okay, fine, let's make it harder for those who want to stand in opposition of our legislation. >> jake, you wrote about this in "punch bowl" this morning. let me talk about how you think it might backfire. depending on how a talking fill buster is structured, a group of
senators could hold the floor for days or even weeks. nothing could get done, no no, ma'am yagss or bills or treat sees, since this faction would control the floor. that's why then senate majority leader mick mansfield changed the rule in 1972 so that there could be silent filibusters. this allowed senate business to continue while a filibuster was conducted on another track. it was considered a key reform at the time. what if the talking filibuster comes back? >> i think he's making it more complicated than he said it. when he came into the senate, that's not the way it was. number two, it concedes the control of the senate floor for the minority, which is not something the majority often wants to do. number three, it just -- the reality of the votes here, you need to -- democrats are still for the 60-vote threshold that has been reiterated today up here in the capitol by joe manchin and jon tester, meaning
they're for the talking filibuster but still for 60 votes to break down that filibuster. so there's just not much here that has changed. i think we are still very, very far away from changing the fill buster in any appreciative way. debra feinstein, a democrat, says she's skeptical about changing the filibuster at all. i just think we're miles away here, and the proposal that joe biden is embracing, or what we understand of it, still meets that 60-vote threshold. i can tell you're about to tell me why i'm wrong. tell me why i'm wrong here, katy. you look skeptical. >> i'm going to play devil's advocate. i'm never skeptical of what you say because you know the way capitol hill works much better
than i do. but playing devil's advocate, what you see on the floor is so much long-term lack of movement because of the talking filibuster that the democrats who are on the fence about changing things, including the president, throw up their hands and say, we've got to change the rules because nothing is working. >> yeah, listen, there is no doubt that forcing people to take the floor instead of just alerting their leadership would put a visible face on the opposition to legislation. there is no question about that. but you also have to take the flip side of the coin, and mitch mcconnell said yesterday, and think what you want of mitch mcconnell, he's going to probably do this if he says it. he said he's going to make life very difficult for the senate. he said he's going to force quorum calls, he's not going to consent where it's needed to conduct regular business. so you might gain on one side but things will be harder on the
other side. the point he made, and this is true, when republicans inevitably take the majority, which at some point in the future, they probably will, he will immediately move to change union laws, move to change abortion laws. what republicans can do with 50 is probably equally as drastic as what democrats can do with 50. there is palpable frustration with the filibuster. it's just a more complex situation than just, get rid of the filibuster or don't get rid of the filibuster. >> given what the congressman said about he wants to make it hard for the senate, what is tying democrats hanging onto this filibuster? >> we see what happens when you get rid of the filibuster in the last few years. they got rid of the filibuster for circuit court appeal
nominations in order to speed through nominations. then they got rid of it in order to speed through republican nominations. last fall when president trump put amy barrett in a confirmation, it depends on where you are at the moment. it means you have to get a larger coalition type thing for it to pass, but they're passing things you don't want to pass. that's what mitch mcconnell is saying, you wouldn't want me to pass what i want to pass, the 50 votes, in order to get back buie power. >> thank you for being here, my
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we're back now with more in our top story today, that shooting spree at three atlanta area spas. eight people are dead, six of them are of asian descent. though police say the suspect claimed he was not racially motivated, the fact is, anti-asian american hate crimes are on the rise considerably. as we touched on earlier, there's been 68% anti-asian hate crimes mostly against women, and those were just the incidents that were reported. joining me now is cynthia chay.
she is the co-founder of stop aait hate. thank you for joining us, cynthia. are these hate crimes against asian americans and pacific islanders, is it all attributed to covid? >> well, this is not a new issue for our community, but we certainly did see an unprecedented surge certainly in my lifetime that was sparked by covid. as you reported, we have 3,800 incidents. we know that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what asian americans are encountering all across america. >> given what we've seen in the last year with fears of this virus being tied into the hate
crimes of asian americans and pacific islanders, can we condemn it and make sure people know this virus has nothing to do with your race? >> first, i should have started out by just expressing our deepest condolences to the surviving family members who are grieving and mourning the loss of their loved ones. yes, i think that there can be plenty done by our elected officials standing by our community at this time that's reeling and living on the edge of fear of being attacked as they're going about their daily business in public spaces, in the workplace. we don't know, of course, if these recent incidents are racially motivated as the facts of the case are emerging, but i don't think we should quickly rule it out. the fact of the matter is that
six asian-american women are dead, and the businesses that were targeted were all asian owned. >> you know, we're showing a lot of numbers on the screen. what we have not shown is a lot of images for these incidents we've been seeing around the country now for the past year. some just really, really disgusting images of violence being perpetrated against asian americans caught on surveillance camera, caught on mobile phones, caught in ubers. these images are horrifying. what more can we all do to make sure that this stops? >> well, one of the things that we are really advocating for is that local communities need the support to respond to these types of incidents. many of the groups that we've talked to and heard from that are based in georgia right now are asking that we follow their lead as they are developing
responses really centering on the victims and the families -- surviving family members. this is a tragedy, and there is going to be need for support on multiple levels. so that's first and foremost, centering those who are most impacted right now. we also have to acknowledge that asian americans across america have feared for their safety for quite some time, and so support needs to be provided for those who can provide mental health resources and are leading community-based safety initiatives. this is a time where not just -- this isn't just an asian american issue, this is an issue for all of us. the group that's being targeted should be of concern and we need to rally together to stop it. >> it should be a concern to all
americans if one american is afraid to leave their house because of something like this. cynthia choi, thank you for joining us. we appreciate your time. a dangerous string of thunderstorms and tornadoes are heading south. portions of louisiana, mississippi and alabama are all at moderate to high risk of hail, damaging winds and tornadoes this afternoon and evening. here you can see the damage after at least one tornado that moved through wayne county, mississippi just a few minutes ago. as the storm threat goes into the evening, meteorologists warn that tornadoes at night are particularly dangerous because of low visibility and the potential to sleep through warnings. so make sure your phones are not on silent. what the president had to say about the political fate of the embattled governor here in new york. you won't want to miss this. stay with us. miss this. stay with us
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let me ask you about governor cuomo of new york. i know you said you want the investigation to continue. if the investigation confirms the claims of the women, should he resign? >> yes. i think he would probably end up being prosecuted, too. it takes a lot of courage for a woman to come forward. the presumption is that it should be taken seriously and investigated. >> in his strongest words yet, president biden announces new york governor andrew cuomo should step down if the investigation confirms allegations of misconduct. this, as reporting from "the new york times" says days after lindsay boylan made public accusations against governor cuomo, his staffers sought to discredit her. a full-on attack on ms. boylan's
credibility. in a tweet she responded, quote, i will never give up. i will never give in. we will not be destroyed by our abusers. governor cuomo has apologized for his comments in the past but has denied touching anyone inappropriately. he says he will not resign. with me now is jesse mckinley, albany reporter and bureau chief for "the new york times." jesse, good to have you. tell us more about this letter. >> well, apparently it was circulated in december, shortly after ms. boylan tweeted that she had been sexually harassed by governor cuomo. pretty promptly after that, the letter began to make the rounds around current and former aides of governor cuomo's, particularly women with an eye of undercutting her credibility on these claims. the letter was never released, seems to have never gotten past a couple of drafts but indicates how seriously they took this charge in terms of mr. cuomo's
reputation. and also shortly after lindsay boylan made her initial claim in december, confidential personnel documents were released to members of the media, which illustrated kind of a history of combative behavior by ms. boylan. people saw this as a classic example of retaliating against someone who had made a claim. >> so when we talk about people tied to cuomo in this letter, what sort of people were we talking about, aides? how high did this go? >> governor cuomo has been in office for a decade. there's a large number of people connected to him both in official and unofficial capacities, both as advisers, aides, consultants, what have you. without revealing sourcing, there are a number of people he regularly consults with on things like this, both political and policy wise. and it was in that orbit that
this memo was being circulated. >> i've asked you this before. i'm curious, though, what is the mood like in the governor's office and now that the president has weighed in, you know, is the governor feeling as strong in his refusal to resign as maybe he did yesterday? >> well, i certainly haven't spoken to the governor, but i will tell you amongst his aides, i think there is a consistent message that they're going to continue to do the work of the state, that they're going to try to kind of project a business as usual attitude. the governor has said he will not resign. he had no response to biden's remarks last night. so i think a lot of what we're going to be watching right now is how these investigations unfurl, how quickly they're able to draw conclusions and then, of course, what the reaction to those conclusions are, both from the governor and also from the assembly here in albany, who would be in a position to impeach him if they found that those allegations were credible.
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asian spas in the met row atlanta area that killed eight people including six asian women. we're learning more about their identities and we'll share that with you in a moment. the suspect, 20-year-old man who local authorities say purchased his weapon hours before the shooting and was identified by his parents after law enforcement released surveillance images from one of the crime scenes. the associated press is just now reporting that he has been charged with murder and assault. attorney general merrick garland and fbi director christopher wray have briefed president biden on the shootings and a short while ago, biden weighed in on the tragedy. >> whatever the motivation here, i know that asian-americans are very concerned. you know i've been speaking out against the brutality of asian americans for the last couple of months. i think it is very, very troublesome.