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[inaudible] the supervisors because we really need this office in tune to our needs it we haven't been getting answered >>[timer >>[gavel] >>we are back in open session. and we have settled on the items is there a motion on whether or not todiscuss the items during closed session?
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>>to not disclose. >>i second. all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay >>is there any new business?
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>> this is a reminder under the code this is a reminder under the administrative code the ringing and use of cell phones and pagers and similar sounding electronic devices is prohibited. set all to vibrate or turn the device completely off. now san francisco fiction and the time is 5:00 p.m. commissioner president francee covington commissioner vice president cleaveland commissioner stephen nakajo commissioner michael hardeman acting chief of the department ignoring and item 2 please
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silence all electronic devices. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole not to department personnel not to enter into the date with a speaker the lack of a irons by the commissioners didn't necessarily constitute an agreement with or support of statements during. >> thank you, madam secretary is there any member of the public that would like to address themission on a matter not on the agenda seeing none, public comment is closed. please call the next item. >> item 3 discussion and possible action to approve meeting minutes of regular meeting on june 22, 2016. >> thank you. any public comment on the minutes as
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submitted? >> all right. no public comment public comment is closed. and i'll go to my fellow commissioners beginning with commissioner vice president cleaveland. >> move to approve. >> second. >> thank you hardeman second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> of approval of the minutes as submitted all in favor, signify by saying i. >> i >> item 4 update on street design and traffic calming changes and changes facing the fire department from challenges facing did sftv r sf f d welcome chief lombardi. >> it's been a while a lot of progress i'll go through that
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since the last time. >> good you need the overhead. >> that would be great. >> overhead there we go. >> just an update on the street design and traffic calming and changes that come to us this is a review of the challenges we face everyday responding to fires and medical emergencies we have typography issues and wood frame construction and a lot of overhead electrical wires align zero lot lines the buildings are touching no space it was an the buildings and narrow streets that continue to get narrower with the wooimgd of sidewalks and we always have delivery trucks double parking and a lot of uber and lyft directives and
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muni wires overhead and buses and traffic high winds, the threat of rapid fire and the earthquake so possible conflicts points traffic kaivenlg measures obviously response times and pay attention alisa miller issues when the street is narrow not as much room to operate and equipment limitations of what we can and cannot do in the city of san francisco. >> this a lot of stuff on the slide but basically our vehicles with mirrors are over 10 feet wide with the width of mirrors once we put out the jacks on our aerial trucks the trucks are wide as 17 and a half feet we need a lot of space to operate we have a there's code in the
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city none of the streets should be narrower than 20 feet but with that it would if we took a round we'll go into traffic and that's how big the vehicles are. >> so you're working with the bureau equipment captain reservoir went and studied rigs and decided to write a speck that will make our vehicles as tight and styled as possible very proud of the spec worked on 2 over a year the bid has closed and under the bid evaluations at the end of august purchasing 8 new engines all will have the streamlined smaller bumps. >> bigger windshields to see
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when our on an intersection see someone stepping off a curving hair reducing the profile of the riggs rigs and a lot of safety stuff involved. >> one of the more recent issues we had operational issues delores and clinton park bulb outs higher than spec so some 11 inch curves responding and the pictures are a little bit dark but the chiefs is taking pictures during the incident to show us what the operational issues and as 33 these got rid of not a lot of 6789 implementations done this is new to the city so you know something might look okay. on paper and have a fire so we
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brought these back to the planning and the mta and working collaboratively to correct the issues. >> so one of the issues every time a plan comes from the city planners they'll put in an su thirty template that mirrors one of the engines a w b 40 template that mirrors one of the aerial trucks what we do is look at a set of blueprints and put the turning template on oh, the rig will make the turn then build whatever project and we have hoof big projects hunters point and treasure island all those things are plugged in go all of a sudden get feedback hey our rig didn't make the turn only on paper we fought with the templates were be generic and
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weren't adam representative of the vehicles so working with the mta and the bureau of equipment weighing we've come up with the templates with a custom turning template designed for the fire engines more accurate and the next page we used a w b 40 the typical trademark tailor so we're hoping this helps on the plans so we don't have to physically do cone test at every intersection plug those in and say okay. that will work we're hoping those are brand new and this is the standard when a developer comes before us. >> working collaboratively with
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president covington and is members of 798 and with the members of the our department we've come up with and with the city attorney come up with language that we're trying to measure all projects by and i can read to you briefly it is hard to read on the slides they don't support the existing conditions whether non-conforming and enforce the driver to encroach in traffic some turns we go into ongoing traffic by the way, not add a bulb out and the traffic caging measures should request a variance need to be offset thank you engineering measures several ways to do that daylight instead
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of cars up to the corner you take about 2 spaces out and come back about 20 or thirty feet and paint that red so what happens it those streets are narrower we used to have a lot of beginning bus lanes in the city not bus lanes. >> bus stops market street a lot of buses stop in the middle of the street in the bus stops the put the accident islands into the street now they go straight that makes the bus lines faster what happens with you do that they take out the regular bus stops on the corner with our sirens people are a way to get out of way into the bus stop the bus stops don't exist so obtain those tight streets of people want to go out of the way
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florida no place to go if it is a tight turn we'll get a minimum of 7 by 20 to give us to make the turn both someone's lane but a car can get out of the way working with the fire preservation we've seen those have these we used the mat at the park merced and park merced we went through every turn and matches what we put they were concerned but we literally turn by turn through the park merced and everything falls infrastructure the gm to seems to be working out the new templates we requested they be tested at 10 miles per hour that is realistically to stop and test something when responding
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to an emergency vehicle is not realistic. >> this is what we're kind of talking about if you look at the turnout of california dmv handbook okay for a car to do a right turn we don't want to make that worse that's what we're referring to. >> this next shot from an mta presentation previously in the year and as you can see the big rig taking a right clearly into oncoming traffic we would like to pack that the exemption and not the norm so we're talking about daylighting so up before the hunter o apparent that used to have parking now the parking is cleared out
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we talk about making a round putting the stop bar for the oncoming traffic back further with the red truck this is back further enables us to make the turn and go into the traffic without disturbing anyone to get out of the way we developed a check sheet we take to cone test before we go do a cone test 3 agencies out there everybody it out but cone test was successful and now we were all standing there we watched it and came back with different views when we are out at the cone test have everyone sign off we're on the same page when we leave the city. >> so before when we talked about the traffic calming we
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talked about bulb outs now, one of the things that's hitting the planning design is traffic circles not a lot of them in san francisco one of the new topics that was in the excelsior district it puts a circle in the middle of the intersection as you can see we either on regular traffic have to take a left turn in front of the kitten that is going against traffic or if we took a right all the way around to make the turn we'll not make that turn under the normal conditions transitive kauvenlg didn't work but they create an issue the other issue is operationally if we have a fire there on the corner that makes it tighter when our parking your rigs once we put a vehicle at
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the fire hydrant we don't have the whole intersection weeshs working with the mta to figure out a way and mountainable circles then they work it is been a work in progress one that was just tested today with the bureau of equipment and the mta was out at euclid and coming down the pike listens arrest parker avenues the circle will be the potential island that yellow square if we had a fire engine makes it tight this one i talked with any captain the bureau of equipment this one works so some of them work and some don't on the tighter streets if that is a mountainable island we'll make
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it operational that's good news. >> another issues that comes before us sometimes not just a bulb out of e or traffic circling but a new building and all of a sudden a plaza out front or a lane change this next one is a literally a market street project but impacts on herman and laguna so the lower hard to see in the pull up the lower long street is market street and they're doing 0 project and the fire department didn't have issues by doing that project on market street they're taking a lot of parking now they want to move the parking to herman street that is up on the top left-hand side corner that is what affects us this is currently the way herman street this in front of you the parking
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is parallel parking up and down the block to accommodate the parking off the market street they want to take the parallel parking and make that 45 degree parking that all of a sudden makes the street narrower the cars are in straight as you can see in the green top bar 31 feet or greater across it gives us operational room on the street the proposed plan is this one you can see the parking is at at angle to nor cars will be able to park on the street the green we went to 25 feet 18 feet are 25 feet so we met out there a week ago and can't go under 25 feet a building with 40 feet we need 26 feet we're working together and supposed to be
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coming back with a proposal of 26 feet but they'll have to change the parking so those are some of the challenges not just bulb out or circles. >> this last thing so when we put in the angleed parking a one-way street instead of a two-way not a big issue you notice the big yellow that is a 13 foot bulb out 13 feet that is how far the cars is all of a sudden laguna we can't take a right we'll have to go to market street and down the street that creates an operational issue i relied to it to them the long line is an island they'll came back with a new bulb out slung to laguna we can take a right and respond to the fire
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everybody has an agenda for parking and wider situations and get somewhere and do our job together that is been good now the next project a topic that's brought up a few times this on franklin and the reason that can about a project on oak streets right now station 36 goes to market street and a right on market street that's how the assess the area the project on oak street wanted a big plaza and no cars coming down and they permitted a lane an franklin avenue after talking with the chief and the operations chiefs and so forth a bad idea franklin is 4 lanes in one direction and us in the opposite direction no
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barricade a tough turn on the firehouse we met with the planning and the mta and looked at it this several times that will not work for us we have the meeting in two weeks they understand and so their meeting with the project and they're going to widen oak street to go done down that way that is the picture of oak street plaza that was can you see the contra flow last but not least one of the challenges that is now arising throughout the city is speed humble applications so the mta gets application for those speed humps the speed humps slow down
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traffic we have to stop before a speed humble it takes a white to get the heavy piece of equipment especially on the hill and a speed humble they have speed humps and speed cushions. >> cushions are speed humps with cut outs a car is not wide enough will go bump bump but a bigger bus or engine can make that so there was about 20 speed utterances e cushions put in we sent them out the addresses to our field members and we are okay with the speed cushions but, glow them with the cut outs, however, the speed humps don't work i asked the mta how does muni work with them, no
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speed humps on muni lines why is that and they told me is slows down the muni response time and (laughter) this is true and it is uncomfortable for the riders when you go over speed humps it is uncomfortable for the patient we see have the same problems as the muni but the muni on a set route they can handle that we don't know our routes this is tough but the speed cushions but found out we're okay with those so we will be advocating for speed cushions but still be against the speed humps and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> that's the update on the latest thank you chief lombardi. >> any public comment on chief
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lombardi presentation on street design and traffic calming seeing none, public comment is closed. beginning with commissioner vice president cleaveland >> thank you madam president and thank you for your very good report chief lombardi as always your on top of that i have a number of questions number one the 25 minimum width for us is that in state code if so is that local code. >> we'll have to deter to my colleague on that one. >> good evening, commissioners. >> dan. >> chief. >> that is right out the fire code a state code, however, not adopted by the fire marshall but through the amendments. >> could we make it 25. >> we could we can make it as wide and necessary for the
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operations in the city and i think we have i think we can agree 25; right? chief lombardi. >> in the current subdivision is what we state if there is no buildings over 40 feet 20 feet wide is okay over 40 feet we'll put our aerial operations we'll require 26 feet. >> 26 feet as we descend if i our city and build higher buildings to accommodate the populations we need the wider streets in any personal opinion i think getting to a fire is very important. >> consideration. >> on street closures do you get consulted when there's talk about closing a street even if temporarily closes.
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>> i'll have to defer to the fire marshall on that one. >> what's the rules on street closures is the fire department needing to respond to the fires rallies in the streets are closed what do you mean. >> we have temporary closure and permanent through our tasks and basically we look at the main thing enforcement of fire code and operational needs and then access to the structures and the buildings directly impacted by the shut down. >> are there exceptions. >> are there exceptions you close the streets off permanently not getting through that a fire engine. >> there are general rules or guidelines in the fire code we can be more reflective and can't
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be let's be restrictive if an existing condition anyone restrictive we can get allowance if that way by allowing a permanent closures. >> timely for instance, you want to create a park. >> yes. >> all right. where the fire department come down. >> we will look at the access to the buildings that will be effected by that closure and that's number one if we can we look at is there anything unique any characteristics of those believes that you know though you meet the requirement you know it wouldn't be wise to do that we go case by case and work our way through the final step to consultant with operations and to make sure we're everyone buys into that proposal. >> if you say no who trumpets
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trumps you, you pardon the phrase. >> we have competing local ordinances that's the question we put forward to the city attorney and have yet to get revolution. >> however, i'll say to the best of my knowledge i don't think we've been over rind it is a struggle in negotiation at times but ultimate to the best of my knowledge we had maintained it was definitely necessary. >> a problem between you and sfmta who is the mediator the city attorney says the fire department wins this one or - >> in my opinion or the da. >> in my opinion we consult with the city attorney we haven't had to do that it takes a village. >> what happened in the
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delores park i mean it they'll spent multiply that motives of dollars and built curbs too high for the fire engines to make the corners or whatever. >> i don't know the specifics but we've said not a curve higher than 6 inches some of the curbs are 11 inches that is double. >> who talked to you did the rec and park or dpw or sfmta who consultants with the it fire department when they do the massive redesigns of city property beautiful parks but when they did that work they should have had the fire department at the table. >> some things we are consulted on and some not we have a task but i've cockamamy to realize not all the tasks come to before
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task then it never comes to the fire department. >> so who is going to fix it will they fix it. >> it specific instances i know they're looking at it. >> amazing, amazing. >> i'm really happy to here the custom turning templates and have the - you do this in consumption i assume with sfmta and correct and you seen down at the bottom of the templates sfmta made the template we worked in clofbs with them and it was a lot of good work. >> so sign off on both sides. >> yes. that's important. >> i wonder why we can't get you know take more the sidewalk off of market street in order to have more for emergency
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vehicles. >> the islands have made a difficult one lane of traffic and a muni bus sitting in the middle this is it you'll forced into oncoming traffic to get around it so that is happening more frequently and more frequently and absolutely competing interests the city is growing they want to make the sidewalks wider and safer but something has to give the buildings are not getting smaller it shrinks the streets and we should have a dedicated bike lane up and down all of market street but something has to give i mean yeah. i don't know why we have to have the sidewalks as wide we can take 10 or 15 feet off it doesn't matter. >> contra flow lanes what an awful idea. >> i ago with you and wherever
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proposed we should say absolutely not. >> it would be nice to have a dedicated lane but the opposite lane like franklin is dangerous agriculture that's a ridiculous idea absolutely. >> so when they - i like speed cushions that's what they should put in not speed humps but speed cushions so emergency vehicles and buses can get through so do you get consulted every time you put in a speed humble. >> we've met a few times with the sfmta i think they'll consult us before they put in a speed humbp we've if they do a
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speed human they'll call us. >> you have that in writing. >> no, but thank you chief lombardi that's all my questions. >> thank you commissioner vice president cleaveland commissioner nakajo. >> thank you, very much. madam president thank you, again chief lombardi for your comprehensive report i always enjoy listening to you, you have concise information. >> thank you this package is 26 pages i'm glad we showed because of references i paged it myself starting with page one
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if we didn't have a comprehensive presentation like this this kind of a handout as well i don't think we'll have the valuable kinds of specific issues that speck us today part of this discussion is presentation is policies that happened previous and policies logical operational issues that pertain to us and the vice president pointed that out i'm researching to the page on page 5 the new specs reduced profile the page specifically made reference to captain rivera and the building of equipment i specifically appreciate this kind of input it has the expertise of the department i'll
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always listening to and the good thing chief you have the accountability with the colleagues, i see things in pictures it enforce that because of the new bumps or the grab bars and the handles those are things i can see comprehensive and see how much of a difference it makes with the creative discussion in terms of the street north america's in terms of it shrinking and the next is delores park and if i don't read and the commissioners don't see the pictures ma of the colleagues are good another going to the scene you go to the scene and see things you don't see what is on paper how it effected operationally when i see specifics on data and operational issues and identification of delores and
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clinton park on page 6 and then come to the presentation that is clinton referred to as s thirty and w b 40 terms that kind of what didn't work or what was an example in design bit equity commissioner vice president cleaveland that doesn't have the input of the department that is a preliminary example what i like about you chief your tone is a coercive nature and the inclusive an item period but to the point of a result we're trying to work this out is a challenge and the scompleblths of that city and department as examples we can name the mta or variables and have policy effects and changes and if we're not part of that that cause
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operational problems for me to hear it is we helped to design it it works you know rather than go out and put out the cones those are the things that are important for everybody to hear especially the commission in terms of how and a these effects and page 9 called the traffic calming measures again, it is really helpful for myself to be able to be hear this i made refrnlz on the brt of the boulevard and many of our seniors and physicians have to understand that the corner used to wait for the bus stop for ever is no longer the corner and you have to what go to the middle of the street my question how do you get to the middle of the street and muni wants to be on time and fine and dan i didn't in terms of that response
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i hear specifically if the bus is removed how do the folks in front of us goat out of way i've before on ride along these and i don't know how we reach the designations i've seen circus stuff but we get there we criticize and sometimes, i think that is a dual education but you have to have a measurement where you'll go if we don't - >> some of the other pages i've marked with a number i earmarked and again page 1 is traffic circle and maples and russian street you give examples of u - i go by agriculture division streets and curious what is heck is going on and to answer our question it goes back to the
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concern of the vice president of the consumption and cooperation by the departments and the communication or non-consumption or non-consumption what i'm beginning to hear and gratified we the fire department are part of the discussions and it makes me aware after a administratively level to pay attention to all the projects in the city and let alone have comprehensive i don't know the difference between a hump and speed cushion i know i see cushion i'm going (laughter). >> i go a little bum but i go and the hump i'm worried about the guy paying attention but again, i know about citizens
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and neighborhood when they have a concern the want something done and the city and county has to respond some kind of administrative policy it is important and the other pages to franklin contra flow lanes i almost asked for the address of the market street and other project i'm amazed not in san francisco how different the projects effect us all so again commissioner vice president cleaveland and colleagues all of the incases i think you posed it well the competing interests similarly with the bike lanes and pedestrian walkways and adopting the programs we're getting a handle on traffic and
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besides all the other issues i appreciate very much your comprehensive report chief lombardi i said to share the comments with the commission thank you. >> thank you commissioner nakajo commissioner hardeman. >> thank you, madam chair chief lombardi good job as usual we appreciate it and good to see them on the monitor. >> nice i think we've commented on this this is nice to see the new bumpers - it protects the drivers from a ding you barely hit something that don't good when our rubbing against a person or pedestrian to protect the firefighter from a simple one inch in makes a big
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difference those are terrific the templates that you have for turning item lasts terrific your dealings as far as the dedicated lanes everybody spoke about that that didn't seem to be a good idea on oak street the safety zones stop at the crosswalk when the ones you have here that showed them going out into around and it is the opposite you see where it will be difficult for the big vehicle fire equipment to get around so good job on dealing with that.
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>> parking and bicycles those are two things we have to deal with so your problem on herman street with the parking we have to it is a fire department have to try to keep the public happy with the parking but it was so unremarkable the other thing those rubber lanes separatesers for the bikes and the assessors the fire equipment can go over those are there are several types of bulk and mass those are if you notice when you leave here tonight and look to the right of city hall
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you'll see a 6 inch curve that makes it tough for operations. >> you referred to that so very good great report really appreciate all your efforts. >> thank you. >> and i appreciate being able to rally this to the reference. >> thank you commissioner hardeman thank you for your presentation chief lombardi my fellow commissioners as we go forward we're going to have more presentations like this at our last meeting the captain bomb is on the task and goes to the large meetings but chief lombardi said not everything goes before the task i think the more we're informed about those issues and challenges that are coming up the more we can lend our voice
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to helping create sidewalks chief lombardi can you please go over page 2 challenges of san francisco that you gave us the headlines but not the story. >> those are operational challenges we have and depend on any given night or day where the fire is at you know you know the typography we have hills hills are dangers the whole city were flat it would be better to do the operations and turns. >> before you go on for the typography there is a push for people to try to convince us we need smaller rigs but because of the hills. >> right. >> it is true it not we have to have a rig of a certain size.
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>> great point because of the hills very we have to have horse power to get up the hill our engines carry 5 thousand gallons of water to get up the hill is certain type of motor with the small conditions and everything else those vehicles are bigger so you might go to another city with something smaller their innovate casing the same type of equipment and the same terrain we've gone to the manufacturers out after a major city with 24 terrain we have some of the smallest custom trucks around believe it or not there they are so big with major cities with
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hills have bigger rigs with this last we worked long and hard to get those as tight and confined i'm excited this order is out next month and get the rigs. >> thank you continue, please. >> yeah. so the wood construction very unique obviously we're heard about the fires in the mission district over the past most the city is old you know and it is built of wood and with the zero lot lines that is also on this we don't have the luxury of pulling up to a big and stand outside and hose it to down it that spread and spread and spread we have to carry our water with us to do that and it is just. >> tough fighter when wood construction overhead electrical wires we have regular electrical wires
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that makes it tough to throw ladders and an aerial spot we have a lot of muni wires that a carrier d.c. voltage so always when you know it is not like our traditional suburb all wirings wiring is unknown all wires is above ground it makes it difficult to fight fires in those situations the narrow streets a lot of narrow streets that exist in chinatown and alleys in other parts of city to start narrowly those streets is a double-edged sword yeah, the sidewalks are wideneder and should be safer but less of a distance to across from one corner to another would that for us operation needs it shrinks the street and you know making a sidewalk bigger shrinks the
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operation but on new developments even if the buildings putting them closer together this city has burned down 6 times natural firebreaks designing those neighborhoods i'm not seeing the natural firebreaks with a 40 or 50 foot street if a neighborhood burns like van ness is a natural firebreak for us and it is tough because you are doing the urban planning and make the streets cozy when the wind or fire kicks up it spreads fast and makes it challenging delivery trucks and double parking flo i don't know if it is as crazy as now and adrc the thirty thousand uber and lyft drivers we have two lanes one way and two lanes the other very
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soon that will be one lane in each direction one delivery truck stopped at any time of day on second street traffic will be stopped it is challenging the citizen not paying attention citizens hear the sirens and wanted to do the right thing and get out of way no where for them to go that makes it defendant difficult to respond and the spread of rapid fire ultimately we'll get another earthquake not a matter of if but when. >> thank you for going on over that list of challenges you presented at the beginning you know we've talked about a number of things here at the commission meeting and it is always good to have
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visuals especially, when it comes to things like the new vehicle spec reduced profile you know that is really prove with the existing bumps sticking out you know quite a bit and the new bumpers a few inches out the new grab bars and handles this is prove that the department has put on its thinking cap to figure out how to reduce the profile of the vehicles without reducing you know the vehicle itself so those things are no longer an impediment and the operational issues that delores and clinton park i agree with both commissioner vice president cleaveland and commissioner
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nakajo regarding those issues i mean a 9 inch high curve is also challenging for people with mobility issues it is very difficult to handle some of these these new ways of doing business in the city i'm glad that there are new item mates i know that last year, we talked about last year maybe earlier this year when i attended a couple of the meetings at headquarters good to see those turning item mr. metcalf's plates correct me if i am wrong some of the early templates were based on business vehicles. >> yeah. there are generic templates their based on a bob tailed truck and using that for
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the engine and a semitrailer for the aerial ladders so they just standardly plugged those in once a project is done, huh? we're not manning that like i said the mta worked with us in a great collaborative effort and got the templates. >> very good i'm very happy to see that because it is what we need to have in order to make the decisions and do what we need to do which is get to people when it is necessary so you talked about cone test i know but please. we tried to use the templates but in certain situations we go we don't know if this will work and the templates work with flat say an incline and everything
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effects if if we don't on the templates will be a great reflection we literally go out with the mta and bring a fire engine and truck and then the mta sets up cones to what the do you believe will be and set up a set of cones and go to the turn or where the island will be we physically run our vehicles there that challenge and then we'll park an engine and fire hydrant as if we had a fire and can we get around that we'll do that kind of stuff like i said this is a great way to do it. but that takes a lot of man-hours and a lot of people involved if into agencies so when necessary we do that but try to simply to we're not taking a company out of service the other thing we developed that sheet because a lot of time
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we go out and oh, it worked no, it didn't work off it worked so everyone is on the same page 10 miles per hour and left turn and right turn everybody signs off on the sheet it make it clearer for everybody involved >> that level of detail insures that everyone is on the on the same page you know when you have this emergency vehicles and this is sheet one of 55 days is long this really helps everyone in terms of information gathering and decision making a this is a wonderful improvement. >> now the traffic circles they seem to be becoming more importantly and unless you've been in places that have lots of
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kiblz like england and other places people just don't know what to do when they come to a circle in san francisco. >> i agree. >> chaos did he go when did i jump in. >> we don't center them in the city is confusing you know people are born somewhere or where they had circles i remember last year up to oregon with a lot of traffic circles i personally like to think i'm a good driver but you have to jump out at the right time we're not familiar with them here so we'll see how they work i mean operationally it closing up a street so it is a challenge. >> why is that an impetus so o to have more. >> i can't speak for planning i
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don't know it is aesthetics the one we did in the excelsior there was doughnuts in the intersection to people spin doughnuts and wanted to put a stop to that they put something in the middle of an intersection i don't know why this was the reason for that one we're working with supervisor farrell's office and that maybe a speed issue they may want to slow down the cars i'm not sure. >> those concerns are valid people making doughnuts and sideshows you definitely don't want that but being able to know well in advance that those are planned so the department can give feedback an essential do you feel that is happening. >> i think on these two instances with those circles
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plenty of knowledge and tested like i said, the excelsior one so for the size they proposed didn't work met with the supervisor after he's willing to go with a smaller to get something into the intersection that would work and working with the supervisor they gave his plenty of no and mta was working with us we tested it today and like i said getting the initial feedback from the of the bureau was positive. >> it is helpful to have it and be able to see this table and discuss those things before it is you know that oh, my goodness when did the circle august president i have to tell you you sat on the vision zero task force with us and a lot of these things originally were put forth and the fire department didn't responds or know about it
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and i guess that's a yes and things went in since we've been telegraph hill involved in the last 6 months the communication before the fire department and mta have been much, much better getting more notification and it seems to be working for everybody that's the reason we started it task force not always the case but working better. >> it sounds like the kings are worked out and for everyone's benefits especially, when it comes to safety matters anything you want to add regarding herman street or - let's see so much paper. >> herman street we met the planner out there for that and like i said again, they wanted to know our operational problems and issues again, we don't have an issue with one way to two-way
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but operational when it is - they're redoing the plan and we'll workout everything that will be positive. >> and laguna. >> laguna that's the laguna one was they wanted to put an extra island and taking a round he's like you can drive over the island but human nature we don't drive over islands that makes it tougher if the island was not there they seem to be receiver to the needs i think that will should tell. >> you're saying they are repetitive to our needs oh, it is joyful. >> i love it when people are receiver to our needs seconds count and not - this is serious business
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very, very serious business. >> so the oak street plaza where does that stand. >> the oak street plaza. >> this is right at the. >> between van ness and franklin on oak street. >> across from the musical con tether. >> that area will contain 4 thousand new units of housing a huge, huge project and it is happening all over the place the city it is essential for folks from station 5 be able to move around easily i'm sorry, go ahead. >> that project is putting in two brand new buildings
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residential buildings and be a lot of new residents so the idea to have a plaza out front for people coming and going that looks nice but narrows the street and you okay? yes, i am my chair went to the side >> thank you continue please. >> so it narrows the street which again they were proposing a contra flow lane to the narrow end was not a concern, however, we'll opposed the contra flow lane and seeing a new proposal in august 11th or somewhere we'll imagine it will have widening of oak street we can still go down oak street. >> things are looking positive and planning and mta we voiced
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our concerns within an agreement they're taking the project back to the developer to redo the front of that. >> okay. so we have speed bumps, speed humps and speed cushions. >> i think i'm ready for the pop quiz. >> the bumps and humps are the same thing as far as i'm concerned, we'll have to stop roll over the front axil and over the back axil and go on clearly clearly slows down if we hit it at full speeds we'll break something our rigs are too heavy so the speed cushions have the cut outs we are okay with those we've had i think a list of 15 of them that chief gonzales had everyone test and
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not one negative feedback there is a couple of humps throughout the city and that make us literally stop when responding. >> the speed humps do we ask mta to get those out for speed cushions. >> we've asked i don't know wherewith are on the progress. >> could you please keep us informed. >> all right. thank you very much again for your presentation. >> thank you your next next item, please madam secretary. >> no okay all right. thank you. >> commissioner vice president cleaveland you had other comments. >> (inaudible).
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>> thanks again chief lombardi for your report you mentioned the streets where you had take a lane of traffic like valencia second street they're planning to do that. >> correct. >> whether you talk to the sfmta and the fact that we are criticizing the response times and that you kind of stuff if they know by taking out a lane their compromising the ability to quickly arrive at the fire or emergency. >> i make that known every time it is tough 3 agencies that are go obviously competing and all good in their own right but yeah. i mean. >> so much space generally speaking and valencia street it okay for responding when they did that if you cut across the
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city they didn't put in any permanent barriers cars would get out of the way but the hard escape barriers a car will not that pull up on the sidewalk but a hard bare if you took out a lane of traffic and put in bike lanes everyday traffic will be slow but people can go into the bike lanes. >> okay. so so you have a conversation when necessary discussed about taking out lanes. >> and everyone of the conversations our response time definitely comes up autopsy that's very good where are we the natural firebreaks are not put into san francisco in - >> that's concerning. >> our better streets plan, which was passed a few years ago
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by the board calls for narrower streets and . >> no wide streets anywhere. >> there is wide streets but just not as many as we've had and not as wide i don't know i'm going off the top of my head but shocked a street as wide and van ness in any of the neighborhoods i don't think that exists is may. >> how wide for a street to qualify as a break. >> it is given different factors how tall are the buildings and how close together are the buildings it is a varying factor but just naturally if you get a big thing in the wide fires we're fighting now they let the fire burden until a bulldozer and create
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their own break sometimes the fires have too big you have to let them burn themselves out. >> you are in the best position to recommend where the firebreaks are but in the new developments he mean i'll put it on the table so thank you. >> sure. >> thank you commissioner vice president cleaveland. >> commissioner hardeman. >> thank you, madam chair i'd like to follow-up questions chief i know you tried to go through as fast as you could but the follow-up is good getting more information but i went back and found a question i knew there was something i noticed on the 26 percent maximum grades so i'm not sure that all drivers know where an additional route
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how many 26 percent grades would there be in the city. >> you mean grades or with the streets as it says street grades maximum 26 percent is that you could climb a hill that was - and that's actually high what page. >> on the equipment california registration code like the 40th page street grades i'm curious what that meant. >> so we have certain i can't off the top of my head two issues with grade for us one is at a certain grade we can't operate our aerial ladder that's 14 percentage above 14 percent it put us at a bad angle and a grade how steep they can
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have the streets actually do you know first hand i think 6 might be max and this becomes a cliff and two steep to issues for us operationally one with our aerial ladder we could use it but driving the streets becomes two steep thank you. >> so that would be. >> yeah. so street grades 26 maximum and departure that is right here i don't see it so the aerial truck is 14 percent and streets more than 14 percent we can't use our aerial truck and approach you'll see a tabletop that flattens that can't be more than 15 percent on off the tabletop and the actual street
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not more than 26 percent and if you think of the steepest streets in san francisco in elizabeth in naomi kelly and dartmouth it is pretty steep steep hills probably 23 percent that i know of no street over 26 percent and that is like like i said a cliff on the design that gets pretty steep so those were dealing with this right now in another project i didn't put on the slide show i didn't want to be here and take up all the time but redoing the potrero hill with the projects on potrero hill there is a whole project their redoing all of that that's a very steep hill and we're dealing with all the approach and departure angles probably a good 10 block project 10 whole
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blocks but every single we're dealing with the aerial and the approach and departure and the max street grades when you know you have a city with heels you're dealing with adams angles. >> thank you commissioner hardeman so some the problems that exist on sections of golf street i've seen some trucks along how trucks get stuck. >> when they're going over the cap those are things operationally we deal with so. >> the mention you made of the in any development on castro where is that. >> right now with the developer it is a unique project the city owns the project bring in private developers and doing
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that there and also where the sunnydale. >> that's part of hope sf so their simultaneously going off and met with the developers and there is some question because was what project built not from the same developers but in hunters point and like the templates worked on paper now muni buses are hitting when they go up the hill and on paper it should have worked i relied this to the developers and they're saying okay. they come out with all little templates and here's the rigs and nothing should hit we agreed to the phase one and said okay everything looks good we'll approve it it works on paper you can't cone test this they're cutting into the side of the hill we don't know until
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it's built but approval to the first section two intersection and should work we'll run the rigs to that if it didn't work we have in writing they'll alter the rest of the project but hopefully work and meets all the things in the chart you see all the numbers. >> right instead of a test kitchen a test road. >> just a. >> truly it is so all the ingredients will be there and all very nice when it is done the 26 foot width that commissioner vice president cleaveland brought up. >> yes. >> how do we go about putting that into the regulations. >> so working collaboratively with dpw their in charge the
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subdivisions have a subdivisions we've meet with them and got that worked with planning on new immunizatio subdivisionss and if there's a building turn around 40 feet the fire department will needed 26 assess at that spot if below then 20 foot rows. >> part of new dpw regulations yes. >> i thought that commissioner vice president cleaveland was referring to say that all in any streets would be 26 feet is that what you were suggesting. >> he was suggesting which like again competing interests wider sidewalks i don't know if anyone will argue wider streets
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easier to turn and clearing easier operational but a give and take. >> we'll approach that a little bit later. >> thank you again. >> all right. anyone else commissioners no more follow-up questions okay. thank you madam secretary >> item 5 update on are recent discussions regarding station 49 with the h 235 clarifications. >> thank you. i will hand this off to the acting chief chief gonzales. >> thank you commissioner president covington so the h 23 in the 18 we met i he feels there entirely with users commissioner vice president cleaveland and wanting o'connor and as well as the chief and the members if the ems association
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informal agreements we agreed on the wablg as well as how many years the applicants have to have in the fire department substantially the next day we met again with dhr representative steven 798 attorney and the association again and ac myers and yourselves and agreed to those two items what we came up with we have to i'll say modify the classification chief meyers they compressed and some things adam that maybe not should have been adam and hopefully get that document modified this week and agreed on by both parties the city and 798 and move forward
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with this. >> okay. >> thank you we will have frequent updates on this until the deal is made thanks. >> is this any public comment on this item? that wants to comment on this presentation. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. and fellow commissioners my questions or comments. >> concerns? >> seeing none, madam secretary next item and chief reports by chief gonzales report from acting chief of dependent on current issues and activities within the department since the fire commission meeting of july 15, 2016, including fiscal year 2016-2017 budget academies one and 50th anniversary update and special events and communications and outreach to 09 government agencies and the
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public report from administration fleet and facility and support services and homeland security and training within the department. >> good evening commissioner president covington acting chief chief gonzales this is the report current activities issues we sent the strike team to the fire on july 23rd in the afternoon in montgomery couldn't it-22 members were deployed and 5 engines that were sent left at the 15 two hours to defend the structures in the highland area and the leader bryan the battalion chief and others were deployed at 9:00 p.m. joined and leading 3 engines from san mateo
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and one from alameda and our 3 61 with 3 engines their were put to work in the same division as the strike team and finally, the call at midnight on the 25 for assistance to form another strike team we were able to assist contra-costa alameda and four of their engines and our engine 7 went with them and replaced the engine 7 so went back in service shortly after that i spoke with the gentleman this morning and i'd like to say he's the most experienced command they'll be under until monday and decide about the personnel teams as far as the
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fire 23 thousand close to 37 square miles and thirty percent contained and structures are threatened and 20 homes destroyed and tragically unfortunately over the night an operator of a bulldozer was killed in the fire when it rolled over one happy note we received a letter from the fire administration from the residents carla thank you to the brave sf firefighters in caramel from the station near airport and near the trans america the sf camped out over night to protect the residents from the comboech fire they were understanding and respectful and unfortunately, i can't offer them a hot cup of coffee easier to get a good nights sleep when we know your firefighters are
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here i hope we support you in the way you supported us thank you. >> god bless you marilyn. >> on to the budget updates the budget was heard at the board of supervisors july 19th it passed first reading and again heard and approved a second time on july 26th no changes were made to our questions thankfully and now to the mayor's office for signature an update on the academies the 54 academy is in the 6 weeks thankfully it is the last 54 members and nice job jeff and the one and 21st class it scheduled in november the chief will be making background from the eligible list this was test and chief wanted me to mention
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that his active shooter in training good a really i don't care grob and 25 members go through that and we're doing it on our own and next year hopefully with the sfpd also in the academy update she's holding told me he'll have another academy near and dear to my heart i'd like to see as well on to the update for the one and 50 anniversary i'll give you dates and events on august 2, '33 to 6 alters washington square park a nancy apparatus and display to talk about the training september 11th unveiling of a piece of world trade center for
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all safety personnel who lost their likens in the line of duty on the safety buildings this is the first time the plan hits the building it will be on geary boulevard and myself and olivia we went out to station 49 it was steroid a piece from the world trade center this was surreal this should be i'm hoping this will be well attended on september 24th is civic celebration with that includes a parade and historical exhibition on fisherman's wharf on the this will start at the 10:00 a.m. the one and 50 anniversary and 12:00 p.m. opening ceremonies and from 12:30 to four fire
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engine and live deems at the forest lawn from the ac and early 19 hundreds for more information please visit sfpd one d 50.org on september 25th like people to bring their family to bring their families to this and all the events on the 24th and the 25th are free and open to the public october 9th through the 15 fire preservation open house for the public to visit their local firehouses and how best to prevent fires october 17th the projected in stoned the commission of the
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sfpd having a fire boat and add the status quo that will happen on cove with a summer sermon and the film festival this be an organization of films and san francisco public library and will be free and open to the public however, attendees will need to register online to attend and finally on december 3rd a day of celebration for active members off and on duty chief joanne hayes-white will hold a celebration for off and on duty to celebrate the day the event from 6:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. details to follow and the next scheduled one and
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50 anniversary celebration meeting is scheduled for tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. on to special events and communications to the governments agencies the chief and the department and i chief joanne hayes-white met with the thirty champions on july 20th and welcomed them to san francisco and thanked them for their input in helping us chief of the department and dan and myself and local 798 thank you for the firefighters met with diane and tommy from the human rights and supervisor campos office regarding the updates on fire preservation and initiative that have between brought up dan did a good job the meeting a lot of requests from that community in particular one or two of the representatives from
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the communities addressed all the points and that was comprehensive it was a good meeting. >> on jowl 18 we met with that was mentioned green before the station 49 meeting on july 19th the labor management meeting that was a frustrate fell meeting it was a good meeting actually on we met with sf rescue and the employee group on july 24th at approximately 8:30 a.m. the new fire boat crews the phoenix went outside the golden gate bridge from the sfpd and rescue boat southern and the u.s. coast
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guard were part of welcoming fleet the magnificent fire boat was showed you i'd like to commend jeff and the retired senior engineer for the bulk of the work in regards to designing construction of the new fire boat it is really amazing to see also that and the deputy director it is tentatively to be commissions in october a quick update do a shout out to the basketball team the sf won the division goal and the stickball team i'm not sure those are the stage and the bowling team won many metals and august from the
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25 washington square from are 3 to 11 and fleet weeks ago that concludes the chiefs report. >> thank you very much chief gonzales any member of the public that wants to comment on the chiefs report. >> okay seeing none, public comment is closed. go to the fellow commissioners beginning with commissioner hardeman. >> i better get my mike on. >> madam president thank you. >> okay good report chief gonzales friend good call on the cruise to caramel fire thank you to whoever made that decision and made it quickly with the
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equipment and good leader and good crew so we know they all nobody is forced to go decided and the help is needed and a tough place to be congratulations to them. >> thank you. >> the budget mark corso did a good job and everyone else terrific thanks it is wonderful but the most important thing the fire boat so yesterday morning it came in and was able to welcome it in the golden gate bridge cut have not fog and in the headlines some of us were in the francis scott key what a beauty oh, that thing what a
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wonderful ship she is and taking a tour on her it is so fun all those years when i came on the commission almost 6 years ago we're getting a new fire boat 6 years later (laughter). >> so things move slowly that brings me to 1909 san francisco had two status quo boats built for one and 2920 feet long and david funny we named the ship she after men that is interesting but anyway, those are the new names of the fire boat but i'll propose that is time we get started in another fire bootat in the mid 60s
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the two fire boats built in 1909 made it for 45 years extremely well built ships and their the state of the art and for those to be worn out and sold for a scrape in 1954 with the modern technology with those to phoenix and the guardian in their middle 60s one is more capable of going on for a couple of years but the other one worn down the goal of the folks that work at the fire boat engine 35 and pier 33 and a half they would to rotate a boat in and out to dry docks leaving us with two roadway there is two the guardian is in dry dock so there
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is space for two ships two boats but i think we should get on the ball with that and immediately start looking at propose to commissioners we immediately look at our next fire boat we don't want to run into a situation we're building a new city and treasure island eastern part of city mission bay and the new arena for warriors we need another fire boat so i'll proposing that that be put on the agenda twooeshg of this one in now according to the folks that will be taking her out a few things to be tweaked in the next 6 months and found out if any modifications that needs to be made for the next fire booty think that to me is top agenda
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another fire boat to protect our city we need them i'll hope that the commissioners agree with that. >> so thank you, chief that was a great day appreciate you offered the commissioners to go out that was kind of you thank you. >> thank you, commissioner. >> thank you commissioner hardeman the other commissioners will wait until excuse me - the report if the administration can you announce that, please madam secretary. >> report from administration report on the administratively distinctions fleet and finance and support services and homeland security and training within the department. >> thank you, welcome chief williams. >> thank you commissioner president covington and fellow commissioners chief gonzales ramon deputy chief the
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administration and this is my report for july 2016 starting with the assignment office under the captain station 49 will hold their vacant bids torment and the assignment changes are scheduled to become effective in august the departments majority will go out in anticipation with the vacancy bid under the homeland sxhurt security the division has been busy since the incident in dallas and orderly and baton rouge the chief attended the conference last month, a study of the attacks in pearce and san bernardino and colorado chief
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francisco worked on the information regarding the various tactics with heightened reports against services and first responders so we're trying to learn as much as we can and stay ever vigilant and remind the public if you see something say something i'm happy to report no problems during the july 4th celebration or during the pride parade under the investigative services bureau champion hunter the bureau continues to conduct backgrounds checks for the updating academy in addition random post accident and drug and alcohol testing for the department of transportation pltsdz i'm happy to report outline results were negative
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through the departments positions office they continue to send candidates for the department as well as return to work and work-related injury examines the physician office reports 19 related work injuries done if 40 work-related injuries the previous month under support services commissioners, that places you under president reports and announcements c lombardi the pump station related at the headquarters is moving along a substantial portion completed by the end of august with full completion estimated at the end of october at this reporting project all are moving forward and on track and station 5 and 16 anticipated to start construction late october at this reporting or during this
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reporting person one and 16 requests for services were received and processes and as mentioned by the chief gonzales i'm also happy to report as sunday's july 24th the new fire boat was delivered and at this time as commissioner hardeman mentioned the staff at the station 35 will use this time to familiarizeism with the new vessel and accounting kings and outfitting it with the necessary equipment prior to placing it in service we anticipate that taking approximately two or three weeks. >> i just want to mention that the boat was funded 2/3rd's by various grants the fema support and the boat costs lovingly $.9 million 8.4 opportunity by
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federal grants and 3.5 by the city general fund and at this time, i'd like to show a few pictures of boat to the commissioners and the audience. >> on the computer there we go. >> that's fire boat 3 at the station 35 it's making its way into the bay the beautiful vessel had a opportunities to ride on the vessel that was a beautiful day and commissioner hardeman mentioned the fog stayed at bay we we watched it come in and escorted by another boats in the area
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that's it leaving seattle under fleet management evaluations of all bias have been compelled and oca is enter into the phase of contract the following apparatus are an order or delivered we have 9 ambulances that have been order and engines 8 two rescue squads ordered and delivered later this year and 15 sedans and currently outfitted prior to deliver to the field and two aerial trucks have been ordered under the training are adc as mentioned we currently have the active shooter training in process this is the ems staff
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has taken the lead on the 8 hours module given to outline members 25 of them have received the training in addition they continue to provide the emt and paramedic training and certification increase in service training the construction of bart is complete and work begun on the muni as part of upcoming transit module training we also have begun training specialized training for it in service staff and the training is effected on the y b i and serious skills associated with truck praksdz reaching walls ventilations interior and exterior and operating various tools this training is well received by the members in the field under nert we continue to
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provide outreach presentations as well as provide available neighborhood in advance training throughout the city to all volunteers. >> and lately as mentioned by chief gonzales our one and 20 recruit academy is in the third weeks ago of testing yes. excuse me. this friday the 6 weeks of their academy we have all 54 recruits and this that concludes my report. i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you chief williams it is a good report any public comment on this item? comment on the report from operations? okay public comment is closed. >> and i will go to my fellow commissioners are commissioner
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nakajo. >> gentlemen. >> (laughter). >> you wanted to rock-paper-scissors. >> you're trying to spread did wealth. >> my system is not working tonight so - >> vice president. >> all right. i'll pull rank thank you chief williams for your report a very good report and upbeat i like that a couple of questions the station 16 when will that start did you say in october. >> station 5 and 16 at the end of october. >> this year. >> that's great okay. does everyone know that 16 will happen. >> i thought 16 was early october. >> yeah. moved to the end of october. >> i guess i'll deploy the people in 16 and spread them out or do something with them where
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do they go. >> station 16 relocated to station 61 and truck 15. >> truck 10. >> roughly half with an place and another place. >> when is this class that is currently being trained when is the graduation. >> november 4th friday november 4th. >> that will have reardon. >> that's a good location we have to check the switzerland switzerlacheduling and schedule next class on november 7th but due to changes it will be later on during the month of november looking at the holidays that
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fall during that most we're taking into consideration and have not an exact date. >> same thing for the next emt class as the. >> the next emt class so according to the chief we're looking at those dates and dates into the holidays we don't dr. an exact date i should have that next time. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you commissioner vice president cleaveland and commissioner nakajo. >> thank you, very much. madam president i thank you very much for your comprehensive report chief williams the vice president asked a couple of any questions in terms of the graduation dates of the present class 120 and the projected start of class one 21 in november with the consideration of the holidays
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and such i want to ask that question maybe i'll refer to the chief but i concern myself with the pressures and the hard work of the training officers if you will perhaps talk about the ratio and schimz may i have chief come up also i know that there is an agreement in terms of challenges with the class of one 21 will be the same members of 54. >> yes. good evening chief gonzales and i'm chief we're looking at the same number 54 22 on the list and the remaining from the 46d when we looked at the schedule a few things the holidays to make sure we gave your staff enough change to be ready for the 21st class those
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are look at it and chief williams and mark corso we should have that date to make sure we go forward. >> i appreciate that as well there is so much pressure within the training officer to have physical health and intersection with the family members apa all the factors with the holidays i know that we gratefully have been on a challenge with the numbers of classes that we've had so this fiscal year excuse me - calendar year of 2017 did next class will be around november tfa may i ask the class of 22 the following year of 2017 is it still mr. corso needs to be involved a rash of two classes or other issues. >> we're pretty in fact, we're
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pretty much through 2017 set to go non-stop through the end of 2018 with the hiring with really no more than two or three weeks between each class. >> to interpret that to the commissioners and the statement does that mean 2 classes of 2017 or 3 classes. >> i believe 2 classes per yeah two classes per year. >> two classes per year to 2018 that is four classes in the books to occur. >> yes and when it was originally charged for two classes the commission remembers we were at 12 weeks now 20 weeks. >> i appreciate that as well as the team for ac god's man and
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is commissioners in terms of modifying the calendar in the length of time for a comprehensive nature of the training tide into the state reminded as well as our own curriculum just want to ask the question after 2018 what happens. >> i think after 2018 it will be determined if there are the number we need and if any additional classes as far as the division of training we're committed to the curriculum and the state fracture curriculum for not just the class but to the instructors and will see that i think mr. corso might add something if i may mr. corso. >> good evening mark corso just to clarify we have working closely with the mayor's office a public safety plan through 2020 i believe so up through
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2018 we were looking two classes per year and then with the addition of the federal grant to add another one with the extension to 20 weeks as chief mentioned we're working with scheduling certain a variety of factors beyond 2018 we're schedule for one academies every year that year is not part of budget process yet working with the mayor's office we'll be reevaluating whether this our staffing needs and one turns both 2 those are in instant review during the process. >> okay mr. corso just as a point of information i introduced counting is the mayor sill in office anothers 2018. >> i think see, yes. >> there is a negotiated
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contingency plan over 2018 mr. corso. >> currently the mayor's hiring plan is through 2020 so for the 19 and 20 currently at the commitment in the mayor's office is one academy per year that will be reevaluated annually. >> i appreciate this information definitely for the members of the audience and taking this information after 2018 are our numbers of the department going to be satisfactory there is some concern they're under staffed in terms of our operation and making sure that of personnel mr. corso. >> absolutely we look at that all the time two does the hires and the planning proposition we anticipate closer to 2018 based on the demographics a spike in retirements for sure and seen a lower number in the recent years
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but we will have more members closer to full retirement eligibility and anticipate those numbers increasing but the ramped up hire we're beginning in the middle of as chief lombardi mentioned a continue process for the train we anticipate still increasing overall staffing. >> i appreciate that mr. corso and chief williams somewhere along the lines the aging of the population of your members will be - >> really quick we recognize that has a department within the training distinction we are concentrating on quite a bit the in service group that really is the senior firefighters in the department who have the most experience we're putting them out and working them with the younger members daily in their areas and
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they're first fire alarm and the building they respond to and maybe not in a book but a commitment to get that information we personally have may be able only two or three more years but doing everything we can to get that into the fold. >> i'm fwhad because of the experience within the department i know this ratio of retirement will occur but the expertise will retire as well i look at the field offices and a lot of expertise in all the years when those presentations occur in the matter of san francisco is a unique nature thank you very much chief chief williams one more question in terms of this i want to refer to chief gonzales chiefs report congratulations on the fire built thank you for the pictures unfortunately, i was not able to get up as early as some
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commissioners to have that great experience but sometimes you navigate and as a president i wind up on a government channel but a presentation to the port commission it happened to be about the fire boat station and our capacity it was really interesting i almost stated past the hour to gather information and wonder by my wife not the time to accommodate data that was interesting i assume dhmd we'll have the same report to the commission about bulk stations so again, i'm grateful we have boats where we'll have it fashioned is something i've heard it is that correct. >> i'll have chief lombardi answer that. >> yeah. so i was actually at
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the meeting and we gave a meeting to the port commission we're trying to right now redo pier 26 which is the long pier next to 22 and a half and the idea would be to move our 3 fire boats to pier 26 then tear down the current pier behind the firehouse and redo a new peer pier and firehouse the whole time anticipate the members staying in the current firehouse and the engines and redoing a new structure out back over the water and the boats will be stored at pier 26 the phase one will be pier 26 we're striving to get done right away and can give you that presentation when you see fit to put it on the agenda. >> i'd like to refer to the
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madam president and it is an interesting detail and two more items part of the package i'm not sure if that's your area chief williams but again those of you who are referring to it i'm not going to spent a lot of time not agendize but interested in this even though it is a draft you can get our teeth in i read it 3 times already interesting areas for myself go one expanded goal one at the top in terms of the services for medical delivery and section in here about staffing and culture of leadership it happens to be the areas i'm keenly interested in not a budget area mr. corso i saw areas that is something
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about review maybe at some point, when appropriate may be able to get this you know this is a comment and again mr. corso not my favorite subject in this scenario specifically and last week for chief gonzales said we have an opportunity to greet the booty intelligent back i'm in caramel and i go to caramel in california it is goes country california it is but unfortunately, we burns had fires and those individuals that down in caramel i got 3 folks from my friends within the area do you know that the sfrepd is responding they went by me and going fast to the area of the fire
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and you can't tell me we gotten other reports how important for us to adhere and go out there and chief gonzales the amount of rigs and request not once been 3 times to be up there is very, very important we all deal with fires but a whole nature of fires and the times we spent down there basic things changed like smoke in the air i can't breathe and we'll that is this weekend he heard about 20 percent controlled i'm really grateful our department responses and goes out there and makes a difference and maybe adjourn madam president in the member of the individual that lost the next thing i know his life in the fire.
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>> i don't have hi name but in spirited outlet of that intention i want to thank the fire department and the members for going out there and fighting this fire thank you madam president. >> thank you commissioner nakajo. >> well, i definitely am excited about the new fire boat and am so glad that everyone was able to see at any fires meeting 4 years ago i heard we were not getting that fire boat but able to get this one and you know just the fact that $8.4 million comes from the federal government the grants is wonderful and again emphasize how important it is for us to
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have a grant writer so that we can you know respond to the request for proposals for grants so i know that chokz has many, many things to deal with so if we can get a person that is designated the designated person the designated grant writer that will be all to the good i want to thank everyone that worked on getting the fire boat money, getting the testing on the new fire boat, and also i want to acknowledge the hard work that former assistant chief excuse me - deputy chief guzman tricked to that over an extend period of time so, yeah for the
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fire boat and the fire boat everyone received a list of the potential names and when the chief of the department returns we'll have a meeting to select the names from one of the school children that selected the names that will be a fun task so concerning the fire the strike team that is now out fighting the fire this fire season has begun actually on the same day of the year that last year's fire season began i think this will be horrendous because we're drier then we were as state one of the things i want to make sure that we have on our next
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agenda i know that is coming up next is a mutual aid and how the san francisco fire department handles wide land fire we're an urban department they don't think of us as wide land firefighting having wildland capitalizations but one and thirty members of the department that are trained and certified in wildlands fires to we want to explore that a little bit more so that everyone in the city has an opportunity to hear about the continued great work that is done and to you know update if at all necessary maturing mutually a policy thank you very much fewer presentation. >> thank you commissioner
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president covington i wanted to add the acknowledgment of former ray guzman for hard work it's still near and dear to my heart to his heart i want to acknowledge the delivery the fire boat thank you for doing that. >> thank you, again chief williams. >> i'd like to. >> offering commissioner michael hardeman has. >> thank you madam president we're on the fire boat so in 1990 with vancouver sent down fire boat number 2 the name like the fire boat is fire boat 3 this we have a naming but the 6-year-old christopher's smith my parish picked the name
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guardian it was deceiving his father with a san francisco firefighter so anyone (laughter). >> i had this information from the guardian group i thought i'd share that. >> getting back to you're wonderful report and the equipment when was the last time they have a rescue vehicle it's been a while so, anyway. >> to have those to new ones is fantastic and all the other ones 0 the other thing that olivia i don't know if olivia is in the room but olivia had to walk the halls and talk to the supervisors and is mayor we were lucky to get her, she had the background in how it works so i think getting her at this
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time we had office space so much good things going having someone to make the argument helped the rest of the staff really think they can't be forgotten and 798 has to be congratulated a lot of give and take where the money is spread but number one the mayor i was appointed last month i have 4 more years to go i have to be nice but is mayor did it he had to work with the board of supervisors that didn't necessarily like him not only does he have to help us get it to where it needs to be been you political strategy to block the mayor so the board of supervisors wonderful mayor wonderful and everyone deserves a put pat on the back and chief
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you're worried about the instructors our staff has been working to the backing bone and people watching this think this the training these firefighters is a cake and very, very hard and the instructors are hard to get to take the job in the first place with all the classes working themselves to death i hope you get our time off around the holidays and schedule it for yourselves not the students but best for you and our instructors thank you very much. >> thank you, chief. >> thank you, commissioners and commissioner hardeman all right. any final fine comments >> all right. thank you
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are any public comment on this item? come to the platform at this time already public comment is closed. >> item 7 agenda for next fire commission on august 10, 2016. >> thank you, madam secretary as and already said i think that will be a good idea to have a discussion about the mutual aid and wildland fire sighting and also do commissioners feel they're ready to respond to the draft of this strategic plan it sounds commissioner nakajo is definitely ready. >> okay. good commissioner hardeman >> yes. madam chair i've been attending those meetings as a say a fly on the wall i came in after a couple of meetings the committee did an outstanding job
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it sounds like good a couple of people that changed their position that's one of the leaders of the group that stalled the final documents but i think that is getting close. >> great this is a good time to chime in while it is still in its draft configuration all right. that he commissioner nakajo you wanted to the same presentation that was given to the port commission. >> not at that time. >> madam president i made mention probably not because and i think we have items on that and chief lombardi invited on that impromptu 20 to enough information for the reference the point is that the presentation will come up i'll wait for your discretion chief lombardi when you think that is
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helpful for us i wanted to touch on that we were talking about the fire boat. >> commissioner hardeman and commissioner vice president cleaveland any items for the next agenda. >> this is a pretty heavy agenda item talking about the grand juror report we'll need to devolve into in some detail as the san francisco fire department and fairly important criticisms and some important recommendations in that grand juror report we need a conversation about that i know the chef former wrote a response but the commission should weigh in as well as i want to agendize
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it but there's a deadline we have to respond i'm not sure what that deadline is. >> not until the end of september. >> but maybe the the meeting after the next one. >> oh, i think that it would be good to do it at the next meeting is so detailed we might want to talk about things and form an action plan so that will give us time. >> very well. >> thank you madam president. >> thank you. any other items there acting chief of the department. >> i'd like to address when you mentioned the grant writing i appreciate the job that the assistant deputy chief he has a lot of hats and i brought up before to the chief and actually president o'connor we have people that retired that were very good at writing grants and
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some would be interested in coming back this is something we may want to look at in the future. >> very good, very good okay. thank you public comment? going once, going twice. okay public comment is closed. and at this time i will entertain a motion to adjourn >> so moved. >> all right. we are hereby adjourned thank you all >> (speaking foreign language.) >> shop and dine in the 49
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the community before we bring them outside of the community for the time we have one dollars in the community is the better off we are it is about economic empowerment by apron ingress the businesses that are here. >> shopping local cuts down the cyber foot you'll find cookies and being transported the world where everything is manufactured and put on the assembly line having something local is meaning more the more we support our local businesses the more i can walk down to where i need to
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welcome to the navigation center. >> this pilot project is for people living on the street what makes it different the navigation center is able to accommodate homeless encampments lowell u allowing people to keep their pets and bring their personal bloonlz. >> the full realization that people don't want to be homeless not refuse services but from the services don't meet them and not relevant they're not going to be successful if you look at the budget losses we've got a community sacrifice important people to get food and laundry we're standing next to the bathrooms it is designed to be a dynamic and brief residential experience where right of on
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this site city staff to connect you to homeless places to return to family dine is up for medi-cal and all those things that are complicated for people. >> the other exciting thing city agencies come on site and provided the services for folks this is existed to see when the goal of streamlining a a whole processes of getting people on go gentle assistance into housing as much as possible. >> way totally different you can come and agree as please and get laundry services and showers any time of the day and night it's twenty-four hours a day whatever and twhefr it's not like any other she recalls. >> they come and help people for what it is they're required the issues they need and reach
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out and do what we can to say okay how can we accommodate you to get you set up and straight never in my mind imagined a program like this this place it different and a a lot a lot that better it works. >> the navigation is center is a collaboration of partnerships too city departments one is the homeless outreach team managed by the san francisco distributing i look forward to the navigation center we'll have our agents go out and help and say don't go anymore over and over send our dayshift out they've meet the population and hang out and hang in the encampment and transport people and be with them and make
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immediate impacts with me and my staff. >> bringing our wloongz whatever you go presents a problem this place their help with the storage i don't have to worry about it staying here you know you're getting things done they need to get things down done to get off the street avenue of the hope alsoness is gone. >> they help you if you're hungry go eat if e you need to go places go. >> they're 4th district it awe auto. >> it was funded through a unanimous donation and of may 2015 an additional $3 million to help to continue the program beyond 18 months. >> you see people coming out they're ready to being so the
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future homes you know how variable the navigation center is my message for the constituents yes something can be done do break chronic homelessness it is being done. >> this is a community that sets an example but i how to pick an area that was funky they've seen we're trying to do is help their neighbors they've seen getting sicker and more frail and broken down on the streets and welcomed us that's a powerful statement people are exist and president in they're becoming to see the movement for folks and people on the streets are only survival modes where is there next meal and their itch more carefree. >> the staff here is
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interpretation the first day i have a appointment and everything was made all you do is go through them this makes a huge difference. >> to get settled in a helping hand, to get on my feet, take care of the issues i have and get out of bed and help. >> even though the navigation center has been up in march 2014 the program is creating successful outreach for it's clients. >> a month ago they came to me and asked me to go into a new program i moved into here and now 3 months later i have my own place it is mine i lock my door
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don't worry about my stuff it feels human again >> you're watching quick bite, the show that has san francisco. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we're here at one of the many food centric districts of san francisco, the 18th street corridor which locals have affectionately dubbed the castro. a cross between castro and gastronomic. the bakery, pizza, and dolores park cafe, there is no end in sight for the mouth watering food options here. adding to the culinary delights
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is the family of business he which includes skylight creamery, skylight and the 18 raisin. >> skylight market has been here since 1940. it's been in the family since 1964. his father and uncle bought the market and ran it through sam taking it over in 1998. at that point sam revamped the market. he installed a kitchen in the center of the market and really made it a place where chefs look forward to come. he created community through food. so, we designed our community as having three parts we like to draw as a triangle where it's comprised of our producers that make the food, our staff, those who sell it, and our guests who come and buy and eat the food. and we really feel that we wouldn't exist if it weren't
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for all three of those components who really support each other. and that's kind of what we work towards every day. >> valley creamery was opened in 2006. the two pastry chefs who started it, chris hoover and walker who is sam's wife, supplied all the pastries and bakeries for the market. they found a space on the block to do that and the ice cream kind of came as an afterthought. they realized the desire for ice cream and we now have lines around the corner. so, that's been a huge success. in 2008, sam started 18 reasons, which is our community and event space where we do five events a week all around the idea of bringling people closer to where the food comes from and closer to each other in that process. >> 18 reasons was started almost four years ago as an educational arm of their work. and we would have dinners and a
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few classes and we understood there what momentum that people wanted this type of engagement and education in a way that allowed for a more in-depth conversation. we grew and now we offer -- i think we had nine, we have a series where adults learned home cooking and we did a teacher training workshop where san francisco unified public school teachers came and learned to use cooking for the core standards. we range all over the place. we really want everyone to feel like they can be included in the conversation. a lot of organizations i think which say we're going to teach cooking or we're going to teach gardening, or we're going to get in the policy side of the food from conversation. we say all of that is connected and we want to provide a place that feels really community oriented where you can be interested in multiple of those things or one of those things and have an entree point to meet people. we want to build community and
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we're using food as a means to that end. >> we have a wonderful organization to be involved with obviously coming from buy right where really everyone is treated very much like family. coming into 18 reasons which even more community focused is such a treat. we have these events in the evening and we really try and bring people together. people come in in groups, meet friends that they didn't even know they had before. our whole set up is focused on communal table. you can sit across from someone and start a conversation. we're excited about that. >> i never worked in catering or food service before. it's been really fun learning about where things are coming from, where things are served from. >> it is getting really popular. she's a wonderful teacher and i think it is a perfect match for us. it is not about home cooking. it's really about how to facilitate your ease in the kitchen so you can just cook. >> i have always loved eating food. for me, i love that it brings me into contact with so many wonderful people.
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ultimately all of my work that i do intersects at the place where food and community is. classes or cooking dinner for someone or writing about food. it always come down to empowering people and giving them a wonderful experience. empower their want to be around people and all the values and reasons the commitment, community and places, we're offering a whole spectrum of offerings and other really wide range of places to show that good food is not only for wealthy people and they are super committed to accessibility and to giving people a glimpse of the beauty that really is available to all of us that sometimes we forget in our day to day running around. >> we have such a philosophical mission around bringing people together around food. it's so natural for me to come here.
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>> we want them to walk away feeling like they have the tools to make change in their lives. whether that change is voting on an issue in a way that they will really confident about, or that change is how to understand why it is important to support our small farmers. each class has a different purpose, but what we hope is that when people leave here they understand how to achieve that goal and feel that they have the resources necessary to do that. >> are you inspired? maybe you want to learn how to have a patch in your backyard or cook better with fresh ingredients . or grab a quick bite with organic goodies. find out more about 18 reasons by going to 18 reasons.org and learn about buy right market and creamery by going to buy right market.com. and don't forget to check out our blog for more info on many of our episodes at sf quick
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bites.com. until next time, may the fork be with you. ♪ ♪ >> so chocolaty. mm. ♪ >> oh, this is awesome. oh, sorry. i thought we were done rolling. ♪ >> >>[gavel] >> i will call the world. commissioner pating, here. singer, here. chung be present sanchez, present. karshmer, present. second item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of the health commission

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