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so with regards to your first question, that is not something that we had talked about explicitly in terms of, you know, an amendment in the legislation, but i do think it's an important thing to flag, particularly, you know, for firms that may have someone on staff to be able to do these inspections, so it's something that we've discussed a little bit with d.b.i., and we can explore that further, because i do think it's a good point. can you repeat your second question? >> commissioner dooley: how long -- what's the term before a business is deemed noncompliant and receives a large fine? >> yeah. so what is currently in the legislation is once there has been a storefront that has been reported, and the reporting can either be self-reported, which we are trying to encourage more of, but often, these happen through complaints. they have 30-days to comply with registering their vacancy,
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and if not, that notice of violation is applicable. >> commissioner dooley: great. thank you. >> president adams: commissioner dwight? >> vice president dwight: i, too, agree with the spirit of this agreement, though i have some questions about some of the details. i think the presence of a for lease or for sale sign should not be a bye for people to register under any circumstances, and i think the registration period of 30 days is perfectly reasonable. i do have an issue with requiring the fee to be paid immediately and then going into this sort of administrative burden of having to rebate some or all of it. we all know it takes time to execute a lease. it would seem that a landlord with best intentions, it's going to take them 30, 60, 90 days to lease their space, maybe even nine months in today's market.
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so it seems to me a generally -- an overgeneralization -- it's a punitive fee. the minute your building is empty, we're going to get you, and i don't think that's rather, and i especially don't think it's right in today's climate. many property owners own a single piece of property, and so they are small business owners themselves this owners themselves by living off the proceeds of their real estate. i think as a small business commissioner, one, i'd be interested to know how many landowners -- commercial landowners in san francisco qualify as small owners, single or one or two or whatever the right number of leasable spaces is, but i think it's probably a lot, and i just think it's -- it's -- we shouldn't be in the business of implementing if you know ti know -- punitive fees when
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they're going out of business. your tenant can go bankrupt today, and you don't see it coming. it's not like the building's been for lease or for sale before this person leaves. it can happen abru abruptly, a usually does. i think it would be wise to give the benefit of the doubt to the landowners, not to ding them because their current tenant gave up their business, so that's my point of view. >> president adams: commission commissioner corvi? >> commissioner corvi: i just want to say this. i've only been a commissioner here for six orseven months. this has been exciting for me because i own two businesses, one on union, and one on polk street. i get sick of seeing
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storefronts empty for the length of time that they've been empty, and i've always wondered why we aren't able to rent these storefronts to help the other businesses around. i'm very excited, and i hope this can work out and we can get some of these storefronts rented and -- and help the businesses around our businesses. so yeah, i'm looking forward to it, yeah. >> president adams: thank you. commissioner zouzounis? sedu >> commissioner zouzounis: what comes to mind as a small business and property owner came across the planning commission recently. they had a store on divisadero street, they weren't able to sustain that, but they owned the building, and because of the c.u.s in that area -- or sorry, the restrictions around formula retails in that area, they weren't able to find a lease for a really long time,
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and you know, then, once they did find a potential tenant, they had to go through this whole c.u. process. and so what would -- what would you say to an example like that, like, where you, again, have a small business owner in this case who's trying -- is there a reporting process in which they can kind of show their due diligence in this time or anything like that? >> yeah. thank you for that, and i think both comments -- you know, this is definitely part of the thinking around the refund is that we do want to -- we know that there are some -- i'm trying to think of the word -- kind of serial vacancies whereby there are those owners that are kind of like, they've been vacant for 15, 20 years, and those are the folks that i think is very frustrating. i think we don't want to
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penalize, though, property owners that are operating their own business. so i think what the legislation does is it does require the fee up front. i think the refund is trying to incentivize that process. i'm not sure if it makes a difference where it's a 30-day period, where they pay the fee, or 60 days, where the example that you gave, i'm not sure it makes that much of a difference, and i think we do want to make sure that those property owners are engaging in the vacant storefront registry. part of the thing i didn't talk about because it's not in the lemgs lation, the small business does reporting to the -- legislation, the office of small business does reporting to the office of housing and workforce
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development. we have a question, like, how many of those property owners are large corporate owners versus the small business category i think is important for us to get a handle on in order to figure out how we approach the problem going forward. but also having folks on the registry that the office of housing and workforce development know they can provide matches to potential tenants. i think the 711f$711 fee is re just cost recovery. the department of building inspections, they're really slammed, and so they need more resources to be able to focus more inspectors on this problem, so i guess that's what i would kind of say in response, is that we really -- the approach of this really is not trying to penalize the folks who are just -- who are just running their business or, you know, we're -- we're trying
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to be -- take into consideration their needs, as well, but this is -- i think it seems pretty up front what we're trying to accomplish, and the registration fee is not meant to be punitive, it is meant to be cost recovery. >> president adams: commissioner dwight? >> vice president dwight: so just to be clear, i support registering in 30 days unconditionally, and just registering your building does not get you out of anything else. there should be no inspection required if someone is following the rule of the law. if they register within 30 days, and they rent within nine months, then no one should ever have to go out and look at that. that should be great. you followed the rules. what should happen, when someone reports that business has been vacant -- property has been vacant for 30 days or
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more, then i would agree the fee should be immediately, and that that should be nonrefundable. you blew it, you pay it, okay, and that there should be fines for that. but our taxes pay for certain basic services in this city, so we can't go around cost recovering everything, and we can't be -- and in fact we should be looking to simplify the administration of our laws. so there should be no inspection as long as things -- there should be no need to inspect compliance of any law in this -- in this city as long as people are following the rules, okay? it's when people fall out -- when they go out of the borders, out of the guardrails that they need to be brought back in through inspections or whatever. so i think that the cost recovery notion is -- is kind of a red herring here because there shouldn't be any cost to recover if -- for those who are
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following the rules, okay? what you're saying here is we're now going to mandate -- we're basically going to say, we're going to go out and inspect everything. we know they probably won't because they're not staffed to do that, and they're not going to get to hire more people. there's not a hiring freeze, but there's a request to dial things back in all these departments, so really, we're just collecting money, and i don't like that notion in a city already that collects lots of money from small business owners in myriad different ways, so i would like to see this modified to provide for immediate registration, provide for a fine if you don't do it within 30 days as you're supposed to, but i would leave in the nine-month grace period. whether that's 60 days, 90 days, or nine months to lease a property, we're talking about chronic vacancies, buildings as
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we've acknowledged, that are vacant, not for a year, but for five years, 15 years, 20 years. not the people that are vacant for even up to a year. you know, it takes time. >> president adams: commissioner dooley? >> commissioner dooley: my question on this issue is we do in each neighborhood have money of these scoff-law people who are either not going to register or are going to get someone to say they're compliant when they're not. so i almost feel like you might consider putting out a questionnaire in each neighborhood so that you can be directed towards the derelict businesses and maybe keep a sharper eye on them. because every neighborhood, it would take us five minutes in every neighborhood to have someone report what's been closed for 30 years. >> you know what? invest in an app for that.
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you'd have every neighborhood self-reporting their vacancies. we all are aware of it in our neighborhoods. i live in san francisco. i'm aware of my vacancies in my neighborhood. i'm looking at it, how can that not be leased? the sign's been up as long as i've been in the neighborhood. remove this out -- you put a sign on your building, and you're in the clear. that's the solution, okay? because you already have a law, and you just have a big loophole in it. shutdown that loophole. let's consider the fee stuff later, but the loophole is what's killing it because, you know, anyone can just say i've got a sign on the building. who's not to say i'm not doing my best to sell it? >> president adams: commissioner ortiz? >> in the spirit of scoff laws
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and loopholes, we need to look into, i'm sure you can go get your cousin to register the business and keep it vacant, the business that never opens. trust me, if they didn't want to have it for 30 years open, there's very easy ways to circumvent. they can sign a phony lease, register a phony business, and then just put a sign in the door. that's how my mind works. >> i already see one of those in my neighborhood. >> president adams: okay. anymore questions? oh, commissioner yee riley? >> commissioner riley: yeah. my question is whenever we come up with the legislation, we always do outreach, so have you had a chance to talk to property owners to find out what is the problem, why is it vacant? because some might have legitimate reasons. >> yeah, thank you for that. so a couple of things i just wanted to mention. i think the reason why -- so
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supervisor fewer, we did a #fewervacancies effort in district one and worked with the richmond blog to get the word out and really listed, to your point, commissioner dwight, and said to neighbors, help us report. this is after d.b.i. said we have zero vacancies in the richmond. within two weeks, 159 vacancies were reported. there was an on-line reporting form. we gave that to d.b.i. d.b.i. went from having 40 properties on the list to over 200. i'm proud to say our neighborhood was instrumental in increasing that number, as well as the press and media around that. we then, based on that list of the number of vacant
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storefronts, our office sent a mail letter to every single one of those property owners, asking them to engage in our office because we really are trying to understand the problem. not surprisingly, the vast majority of those property owners didn't respond, but we did have some great conversations with some folks. some of those people were actually small businesses who are talking about -- so we got the small business owner, not the property owner who were talking about the property challenges that maybe they were having with their landlords or the challenges of trying to stay in their space. some of the folks were talking about kind of like permitting process, and so i think that gets to some of the other legislative ideas that are coming forth from either the mayor or supervisor yee, supervisor brown, i think are kind of putting forth some of these other legislative issues -- ways to get to that problem. but it didn't -- we didn't hear a lot around being able to address this issue, you know,
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and i think -- i was on maternity leave at this time, so i wasn't part of those conversations directly, but from my understanding, my colleague who was talking to some of these folks, it didn't feel like what we were proposing felt out of reach for them. in terms of the d.b.i. cost recovery fees, part of the issue is, you know, when we got the fewer vacancies, the 159 properties or storefronts that were reported, because it's, like, through a complaint process and not owner reported, the vast majority of these, d.b.i. has to confirm, this is indeed a commercial storefront, and then, they have to issue a letter, you know, to these -- so there is some staff time that goes into it. i appreciate kind of your push back on the -- whether or not we'll be able to staff up immediately. we introduced this before, that mayor's budget instructions
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came out. but i think there is actual staffing capacity that has to go into this regardless of -- because a lot of these are through complaints, so they have to verify that this is, indeed, a vacant storefront, that it is a commercial storefront that is, vacant, so i just wanted to respond to that, as well. >> commissioner riley: can you go a step further through the survey to identify those long-term vacancies, like five, ten, 15 years? >> commissioner dooley: yeah. >> sorry. say that one more time? >> commissioner riley: i say, you work with the community to find out all the vacant properties, storefronts. you take it a step further to identify those long-term vacancies? >> yeah. that was more -- that wasn't part of the reporting that we had initially asked for for folks, it was just kind of give us the addresses. i think we have -- we have that knowledge a little bit, but not
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in writing, thornt. it's more qualitative than quantitative. >> president adams: commissioner dwight? >> vice president dwight: yeah. i just -- all departments are not self-funding, and cost recovery is one way of funding a department and supplementing their funding, but, you know, these departments are all funded out of our taxpayer dollars, so a certain amount of it is just the work they've got to do. so i think looking for ways to stream line the -- identifying the worst offenders first, do the old parade is out. find the ones that have -- parade it out. find the ones that have been vacant the longest, and send them a letter. respond in 30 days, or you get a fine.
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i think there are some other ways to go about this that are less immediately punitive on those who are actively seeking to release their spaces, so enough of that conversation. but i agree with the spirit of it and most of what you're proposing to do, so -- >> president adams: okay. >> commissioner riley: that's kind of what i'm suggesting. >> commissioner dooley: if would be very easy if you contacted the neighborhood business associations. they would be delighted to give you that information, so i'm sure -- we did this a number of years ago. i think irene was on the board then, where we actually sent out letters to these long time vacant pictures. >> commissioner riley: we took pictures. >> commissioner dooley: we took pictures, and we sent letters, and you know what the response was?
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everyone blew us off. my point is we got those top five most offensive places in each neighborhood, and we tried to contact them. but i think that's a way for you to reach out without leaving your office, is to just contact all the neighborhood associations and they will give you the list. >> >> enlist the support of the san francisco district merchants. this is the most critical in the city. it's not the remote vacancy that's off the grid, it's the vacancy that's right on your street right next to the store that's struggling to survive because no one else wants to go there because everything else is closed. i think by enlisting the support of our already present support groups, like cdma and the individual business and merchant associations, and
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we've got 33 or 34 of them already and more in the hopper, i think we'll get good coverage on the city, and i think you'll find you get your list pretty quickly. >> president adams: okay. any other commissioner comments before we go to public comment? okay. let's open it up for public comment. is there anybody from the public who would like to make comment on item number five? welcome. >> steven cornell, and i'm talking with the council of district merchants. just a couple things to consider. one, if there's going to be -- if it's public complaint, i hope there's going to be a place for the public to register. the ones that are registered should be available to us quite
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easily. that would be one. and how will this be handled by the city? the city is a huge landlord of commercial property, and sometimes they don't rent it, and i've come up with a few examples in the past. third street and howard never got rented, various storefronts. i've seen the mission street on the mission street, various empty storefronts there. those are all run by the department of real estate, which is, i think, the largest department of real estate in san francisco. are they going to be under the same penalties, and who's going to pay them? something to think about. thank you. >> president adams: thank you. any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is
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closed. commissioner dwight? >> vice president dwight: mr. cornell makes a good point. i live in dogpatch, and the old potrero police station has become a blighted property and is falling in on itself. what is a historic piece of architecture. so the city also needs to be held in account here because they do have properties throughout the city that are vacant, and for good reason, they're very expensive to fix them up. this police station, which we're trying -- we were trying to get for a community center requires probably 30 to $40 million in renovation, but it wouldn't have required that if the building had been occupied and secured 30 years ago because it was actually in pretty good condition for the first ten years until people started squatting there and burden of proving fires, and
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then, it became a cesspool, and other people started coming in. we all know what happens to those buildings whether they're publicly or privately owned, and what they do to our neighborhoods. it's not good. i would like to see this legislation go forward and put some teeth into what we already have. >> president adams: do we have a motion? >> vice president dwight: i'd like to move that we support the effort and the legislation, perhaps with a modification or recommendation to modify the waiting period, and not have a registration fee, which feels like a fine, but maybe even stay with the 270 days, if that's what it is. permit fee, i totally support
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getting rid of the bye on having a sign, and i totally support being aggressive about people complying within 30 days. >> commissioner zouzounis: second. >> i second that. >> through the president? >> director andrizzi. >> for those -- between authorize those that self-report and those that don't report, so are you intending to keep that distinction or not? >> vice president dwight: well, if you self-report in 30 days, you're in compliance. if you don't self-report, and you get outed, how you find out how long it's been since you didn't report, i mean, you
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could -- the department could then require you prove when that building went vacant, and you have your fine based on -- i think the fine -- excuse me, the registration fee, which is annual, right, will be retroactive to the time that that building is vacant, and it's on you to prove when your building is vacant, or there should be some -- maybe it's the 4-x, that's four years of vacancy, by the way. the fine is four times the fee. you've got to prove you've been have vacant for less than five years because the fee is 4x. >> commissioner dooley: i just don't want to see a loophole for folks that have been empty for many years and get some of their friends to inspect it and
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say it's compliant. because just because you've paid your fee doesn't mean you're necessarily compliant with actually keeping a storefront that is useable, and that is often the case. >> president adams: but we don't want to penalize the good landlord, either. that's why i support going back to the 180-day or 280-day rule. >> commissioner dooley: even if they've been -- >> president adams: if they've been vacant for 30 years, we know who they are. >> commissioner dooley: i just want to see the distinction between the normal businessperson and the scoff laws. >> vice president dwight: well, i think the scoff law who's been vacant for 20, 30, 40 years. in fact you've identified them as being out of compliance with the 30-day rule, so you should
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immediately levy a fee and a fine, and the onus is on them to prove they haven't been have a can't for four years, let alone 30 years. so there's nothing in here that goes aggressively after the 30-year vacancy. >> commissioner dooley: they should. >> vice president dwight: that's a whole nother thing, which i'm sure would require the city attorney to weigh in on what the city's rights are here to force someone to rent their property versus registering it. so i mean, there are legitimate reasons why property owners do not lease out their properties. it could be that it requires a renovation that's out of their means, and they -- for tax reasons, they don't want to dispose of the property. i know a few people like that, and so they're be going to sell it. they're keeping it as an asset, but they don't want to manage the property, and they don't -- and they can't afford to upgrade it to standards that
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would allow it to be leased today. there are other issues that the city does make it difficult in certain areas to lease to anybody, so, you're like hey, starbucks want to lease my program. no, no, they can't do it where your building happens to be. well, they want to do it, and they're willing to pay me what it's worth. how do you handle that? how do you adjudicate that? i'm just suggesting, to move this forward as expediently as possible, the legislation have teeth. that loophole needs to be closed right away. i would like to see the current waiting period left alone. i guess -- my recommendation would be let's approve the -- support the legislation as proposed with the one exception, that the waiting period of 270 days should be
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kept. >> commissioner riley: what about a fee? >> commissioner dooley: before the fee? >> vice president dwight: before the fee, yes, before the fee is levied, and the fee be nonrefundable. just make it nonrefundable. >> president adams: do we have a second? >> vice president dwight: if i haven't muddied it up too much. >> no. >> no, that was very clear. >> i second. >> clerk: roll call vote. [roll call] >> commissioner riley: can we repeat the motion? >> clerk: yes. motion to pass with a recommendation to keep the 270 -- to pass as is with the recommendation to keep the 270-day waiting period. >> vice president dwight: and make the fee nonrefundable.
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>> clerk: and make the fee nonrefundable. >> commissioner riley: so the waiting period would be 270 days. >> clerk: before you'd have to pay -- >> vice president dwight: before you'd have to pay the fee. it's still mandatory you have to register. you still have to get on the registry in 30 days. that's still a requirement. >> commissioner riley: okay. [roll call] >> clerk: okay. motion passes, 7-0. >> vice president dwight: the fine can be levied for failure to register. you don't register for in 30 days, you're going to hit with a four times $711 fine. i likes that we're not reporting the same thing over and over again, and we'll have a neighborhood list. it also allows property owners to go on there and say hey, i wonder if my property's been
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reported yet, and that would be a good reason -- if you see your property there, and you contest that, you can say hey, i shouldn't be there, or oh, boy, i've been found out. i better get on it, right? >> president adams: okay. next item, please. >> clerk: item six, approval of draft meeting minutes from june 11, june 25, july 9, july 23, august 13, september 10, and december 10, 2018. >> president adams: okay. do we have any comments on any of these meeting minutes? okay. no comments? public comment, is anybody in the public like to make comment on any of item number six, approval of draft minutes? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have a motion? >> move to approve the draft minutes as presented. >> second. >> president adams: okay.
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roll call vote. [roll call] >> clerk: motion passes, 7-0. >> president adams: great. next item, please. >> clerk: item seven, director's report, update and report on the office of small business and the small business assistance center, department programs, policy and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor, and announcements regarding small business activities. >> good evening, commissioners. regina dick-andrizzi, director, office of small business. i'm just going to start off with the number of category check lists that have been submitted for the small business entrance.
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last time i reported it was around 2500, so we've gone up substantially, but there's still many more properties that still need to report that are in categories one or two. property owners can file for an extension at this point as long as they're in the category one and two time frame. we do know that it is becoming somewhat challenging for hiring a cast inspector to do the check list as property owners are now just getting around to it. we do have a couple outreach programs coming up with the san francisco design program, with the a.i.a., so that we can talk about some of the architectural elements that once property owners who do need to do, especially modifications to
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their entryway and/or sidewalks, what's involved with making those design guidelines and criteria and how to work with the different agencies, and we are beginning to do some -- the c.b.d.s are beginning to be interested in having presentations, and so we're doing one with fisherman's wharf. i also want to really extend my appreciation to the d.b.i. team that's doing the accessible business entrance program, particularly tom fesler, bill strom, and lily maget. we're now getting more calls from small businesses whose property owners are requiring them to comply, and so they've just been invaluable for us to sort of help navigate how to -- with the businesses, how to work with them because each situation is very unique. some of them, the property
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owner has already gonna head and submitted the check list -- gone ahead and submitted the check list and now wants the tenants to get the architectural check list and do the improvements. so this has been a really collaborative process and i'm really appreciative because as we knew, this was going to be somewhat complex, and we didn't really know what was ahead of us, so it's been great working with them. on the general accessiblity front, the california commission on disability access, they've been -- now have created a restaurant check list, a pretty extensive check list for restaurant owners to give consideration to in terms of making their business accessible, and so are interested in doing outreach throughout the state to get feedback on the check list, and so have reached out to our
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office and the golden gate restaurant association to do a workshop sometime hopefully in the latter part of february . and then, we've received now two inquiries in the last week from auto body shops that have been targeted for not having accessible parking -- sorry. i'm coming down with a cold. and so we are working with them in trying to do some outreach to other auto body shops, especially because a majority of the auto body shops do not have any parking on-site. and so we're monitoring this, working with them, trying to advise and get them connected with lawyers who can help them through this process? some of the -- a couple of the lawsuits look pretty cookie cutter, and so i -- there might be a chance to sort of be able to deal with them just like we
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did early on with our accessiblity when our office and the city filed an amicus brief who was able to go after a serial litigant because he cut and pasted the wrong information into the lawsuit. so -- so -- any way, so -- but that -- that was somewhat surprising to see these lawsuits come forward. then for the legacy business, so rick and rhea are trying to get through the 105 business assistance grants, very challenging, in addition to us trying to complete the marketing and toolkit program, the -- our marketing and toolkits and then continue to process our legacy business
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applications. we're getting close to finalizing the details for the toolkitt toolkit for things such as -- rich -- we first unveiled the first tool, which is the powerpoint presentation. i don't know if you recognized that rick's powerpoint presentation, the format was in the design of the legacy business colors and logo? and -- but dealing with the window clinics, certificates, and plaques, so we're looking to unroll those relatively soon along with the toolkit for the businesses. and then just to announce that the president -- the new president of the board of supervisors, i'm sure you're probably all very aware, but just in case you're not, supervisor norman yee from district seven was elected as the new president of the board of supervisors. attached to your director's
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report are cop -- is a copy of the minutes from the meeting that some of the small business roundtable members had with marjan howard, mayor breed's senior staff policy on december 6, so i'm providing you with a copy of that so you can take a look at what was discussed. mostly it -- most of the topics of discussion were around the city purchasing and purchasing from small businesses. next, at the next commission meeting on january 28, the commission will be hearing the -- the streamlining legislation that mayor breed and supervisor brown introduced. this was part of the press release that came out last month, so you'll be getting an update -- i mean, you'll be hearing that piece of legislation. we'll be getting the legislate
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tiff review out for you by the end of this week. and then, also, supervisor fewer did introduce video camera monitoring for shoppers' movements, and this was really specifically targeted towards the amazon go. so in my meeting with her, i asked her to give consideration to including manufacturers who are targeting their developing of their a.i. technology for a third party to if the city's going to pass any requirement of notifying customers, that they notify their business -- the individuals who they sell their products to. d dominica did a great job in identifying numerous technology companies that were specifically developing this
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own technology not for their own business -- amazon developed their own -- but to sell it to other businesses, and some small businesses have sa . so kind of using the example of our p.o.s. system, it's the business's requirement to purchase a compliant p.o.s. system. it's not the manufacturer's responsibility to develop a compliant p.o.s. system just to build in that the manufacturer has a responsibility of notifying the individuals they sell their product to of any sort of privacy notifications that the city's requiring, that businesses notify their consumers. and especially since technology gets utilized and changes -- the developers change it and
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looking at new ways to be able to track and analyze customers and their behaviors, to be able to continue to upsell their product, so she was amenable to giving consideration to that, taking a look at that and working with the city attorney as to whether that's a possibility. and then i'm not going to go into great detail. >> commissioner dooley: can i ask a quick question? >> sure. >> commissioner dooley: since i can't be in the room when you ask these things? on the police code, when does that go into effect on the cannabis businesses, hiring folks to go into an apprenticeship program? i know from my personal experience, it's very hard to find qualified applicants right now just based on the equity qualifications. we have a lot of spaces where i work that haven't been filled? and so i'm just wondering, when
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does this go into effect because that would require that these apprenticeship programs are up and running and people are going to graduate? >> correct. so i don't know if there's a very specific timeline, though i did hear today. so the apprenticeship program for the businesses that are required to engage with that, it drops it do you happen wn t hiring requirement. i was just informed today that the state has certified its guidelines for the apprenticeship program? and so then -- and i am not completely -- i would say to say i'm not a full expert on how the state and the local -- i think what happens is the local -- the state has set its
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guidelines, and then, the local will take the state guidelines and then implement a local program, utilizing. so i would say it's a little ways away, but i do think as long as people being enroled in the apprentice program and graduating, because otherwise you're asking people to hire from an apprentice program that hasn't happened. >> well, and also -- i was under the understanding that initially, they were looking at just cultivation, but i think my information that i received today, it's cultivation, distribution, testing, and -- and maybe retail are the apprenticeship programs that the state has created some certification guidelines from. >> commissioner dooley: i think it's a great idea.
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just want to make sure it isn't implemented before we have any people that have gone through the program. >> in addition to, like, the 50% other stipulation of local hiring -- >> commissioner dooley: and then, the equity requirements, it require narrows it down to i work as a dispensary, and we -- at a dispensary, and we can't find any employees. >> what i can say, so this will have its second reading tomorrow at the board of supervisors. then, there's the up to ten days for the mayor to sign and it is effective. now, the start date of this, if you are interested, i can ask oewd, workforce development, to come back and give a presentation on what they're designing for the
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apprenticeship program that aligns with the state. >> commissioner dooley: right. i can't be in the room, but i can run the tape when i get home. i'd like to know because it's a big impact. >> so i will confer with the director in terms of what his timelines is for the apprenticeship programs, and i'll report back out, and we can make a determination moving forward from there. >> commissioner dooley: thank you. >> from the project labor agreement, it's here, i'm not going to go into great detail. about the project labor agreement, i think the most important thing, there -- i mean, it's still -- that's -- the p.l.a.'s still at 5
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million, then 3 million, then 1 million, sort of scaling down that they're going to be requiring the p.l.a.s. i shouldn't say most important, but there is now an annual reporting requirement from the controller's office working with the contract monitoring agreement to report on the contract monitoring agreement with the l.p.e.s. >> commissioner riley: do we recommend them to be excluded or exempt? >> we did the first time, but the commission didn't make any specific recommendations the second time. so dwig. >> vice president dwight: recommend unconditional exception. >> commissioner riley: [inaudible] >> right. that's not going to happen. unfortunately, no, that's not going to happen.
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so -- and if you would like to get a presentation on the understanding of the p.l.a., i can invite the -- the full details of it, i can invite the city manager's office, who will be managing this, to come and do a presentation. and then just other notes, poppenhausen hardware, who just about a year ago on january 23, was -- their business was affected by the west portal fire, so they're having a new temporary location opening on january 23 this year, and they're also a legacy business. so it's at 11:00 a.m. at two west portal, so you're all welcome to attend. and then, i just provided a list of the final meeting minutes that we'll be working to you and getting to you and
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getting completed over the next two meetings. so then, we'll be completely caught up. >> president adams: okay. any members of the public like to make a comment on the director's report? seeing none, public comment is closed. is there anymore questions from the directors from the commissioners? seeing none, item closed. next item, please. >> clerk: item eight, commissioner's report. allows president, vice president, and commissioners to report on recent small business activities and major announcements that are of interest to the small business community. discussion item. >> president adams: do we have any commissioner reports? commissioner dooley? >> commissioner dooley: oddly pertinent after today's meeting, supervisor peskin's office has been working with the north beach business association. we will be having a press conference on january 23, around 11:00 a.m., to call out
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in public the two business owners in our -- two landlords in our neighborhood that between them own 20 vacant storefronts. so we have decided to take the bull by the horns and have a press conference, get it out there that this is what's happening in our neighborhoods. >> president adams: right. any other commissioner comments? okay. is there any members of the public who would like to comment on commissioner reports? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item, please. >> clerk: item nine, new business. allows commissioners to introduce new agenda items for future consideration by the commission. discussion item. >> president adams: commissioner riley? >> commissioner riley: no. >> president adams: no? >> commissioner riley: yes, i would like to know some more about the -- what was that?
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about the cal savers retirement program. >> we can have a presentation for the commission. >> commissioner riley: okay. it's interesting. >> president adams: any other items of new business? is there any members of the public that would like to suggest any new business? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item, please. >> clerk: sfgovtv, please show the office of small business slide. >> president adams: okay. it is our custom to begin and end each small business commission meeting with a reminder that the office of small business is the only place to start your new business in san francisco and the best place to get answers to your questions about doing business in san francisco. and the san francisco small business commission is the official public forum to voice your opinions and concerns about policies that affect the economic vitality of small
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businesses in san francisco. if you need assistance with small business matters, start here at the office of small business. thank you. >> clerk: item ten, adjournment. action item. >> i move. >> i second. >> president adams: all in favor? [voting] >> president adams: meeting adjourned. thank you.
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i'm nicole and lindsey, i like the fresh air. when we sign up, it's always so gratifying. we want to be here. so i'm very excite ied to be here today. >> your volunteerism is
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appreciated most definitely. >> last year we were able to do 6,000 hours volunteering. without that we can't survive. volunteering is really important because we can't do this. it's important to understand and a concept of learning how to take care of this park. we have almost a 160 acres in the district 10 area. >> it's fun to come out here. >> we have a park. it's better to take some of the stuff off the fences so people can look
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at the park. >> the street, every time, our friends. >> i think everybody should give back. we are very fortunate. we are successful with the company and it's time to give back. it's a great place for us. the weather is nice. no rain. beautiful san francisco. >> it's a great way to be able to have fun and give back and walk away with a great feeling. for more opportunities we have volunteering every single day of the week. get in touch with the parks and recreation center so come
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>> the municipal charter for the city and county of san francisco , this january 8th, 2019 inaugural meeting of the san francisco board of supervisors will come to order. we will begin with the roll call for attendance, pursuant to the role and we will begin at the top of the alphabet. [roll call]


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