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tv   Matter of Fact With Soledad O Brien  FOX  November 19, 2017 11:30pm-12:00am EST

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>> right now on "matter of fact," he's a democrat, a former governor, with a hashtag -- "also ran for president." now, he says dems can win back state houses and legislatures if they run without the national party. gov. o'malley: they didn't whether it came from the right or the left, or across the table. they wanted to break t >> do you think our political parties are obsolete? plus, fake news on social media creating real world events to draw protesters. renee: these two warring sides show up, completely manipulated by a troll farm who played both sides. >> how fake news is baiting haters to undermine our democracy. and he's taken millions of photos of two of our presidents, capturing history and humanity. pete: at that moment, president
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obama bent over, and jacob touched his head. >> the moments this photographer wants the nation to remember. ♪ ♪ soledad: i'm soledad o'brien. welcome to "matter of fact." republicans are spending november focused on tax reform, looking for a major legislative win. at the same time, internal party politics have them on the defensive, with high-profile senate republicans publicly criticizing president trump, the far-right wing looking to replace current senators in the primary elections. for democr be good news as they focus on next year's federal and state party's political future. fueled by wins in the governor' races in virginia and new jersey, they are looking to flip other states from red to blue. the gop has 26 governorships to defend in 2018. the democrats have 9 governorships at stake. history might be on their side, as voters in midterm electio
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generally voice their frustration with the incumbent party at the ballot box. martin o'malley is the former governor of maryland and ran for the democratic nomination for president in 2016. he's been campaigning in 18 states to assist the effort. nice to see you, governor. gov. o'malley: good to see you again. soledad: thank you. you wene hampshire a lot. you just were in virginia. what is the democratic message for rural voters -- voters who were obama voters who then became trump voters? gov. o'malley: what i am heari from our candidates who are running in special elections and winning is that people voice the same frustrations, disconnection -- "my leaders don't listen to me." and i say to them, "what do you talk about?" and they say, number one, we never mention donald trump. soledad: so those are democrats who are not mentioning trump. but if you look at the infighting between hillary clinton voters and the bernie sanders voters, those are groups that are mentioning donald trump all the time.
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that infighting -- i don't get the sense that it has truly abated. is that a problem? gov. o'malley: i don't thin is. you know what? all of that has passed. what we have to do now -- as your introduction said, 36 governors races and state legislators that are up for election next year. so this is a huge opportunity for us as a nation to make a course correction. good people sometimes make bad mistakes, but great nations correct them quickly. just tuesday in oklahoma, a state that trump won by 40 points, our candidates won by 44 votes. that is a huge swing. but it's not just there -- its all over the country. soledad: so are you saying these are basically doing it without the support or blessing of the dnc? they just don't feel like they need the dnc. gov. o'malley: really, they never have. i mean, when a man or woman decides to run for state or local office, it is not a matter of g
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you'll never get a thank you from the dnc for that. so, let's be honest. our democracy is what we as a people make of it, and those small places close to home. we have not done a good job as a party in recent years of recruiting candidates to do that, or encouraging candidates to do that. that is how the democratic party is regenerating itself. it is not from a big check from washington, or a magic memo from washington. it is more like how a forest regenerates after a bad fire. there are sprigs of green coming up all over the country, and it is the courageous men and women who are running for state and local office. soledad: should there be a litmus test for candidates? when that question was put to tom perez the first time around, back in april, he said every democrat should support the right of a woman to make her own health -- this is not negotiable. and then within a week, he kind
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told "the hill" that he had reversed himself, that there shouldn't be a litmus test, though what he spelled out very much sounded like a litmus test, doesn't support pro-life candidates. gov. o'malley: i would agree with nancy pelosi when she says we need to be a big tent party -- that we need to be able to welcome people that may differ from us on one or two issues and still be able to be true as a group to what we stand for. i don't see any conflict in that. i believe last year was a year when a lot of americans just wanted a sledgehammer. they didn't care whether it ca from the right or the left, or across the table. they wanted to break the table and show protest. they didn't feel they were bei heard by their national leaders. having done that, people have shifted. they are now in a much more reflective mood about what it is going to take for our nation to be able to deliver for our kids, like our parents delivered for soledad: you sound like you are running for the presidency in 2020, sir. gov. o'malley: i accept your nomination.
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[laughter] soledad: if only it were that simple. gov. o'malley: if soledad: governor o'malley, ni to have you. thanks for joining us. appreciate it. gov. o'ma: >> next on "matter of fact," a twitter account called "the umpire" stops tweeting about baseball, and starts tweeting about politics. renee: about how it had inside knowledge that someone had paid roy moore's accusers in "the washington post." >> how the story became news even though it was false. and later, arrested for protesting during the trump inauguration, charged with rioting. which was it? and will they spend years in prison for taking their protest to the streets? hey, man. oh! nice man cave! nacho? [ train whistle blows ] what?! -stop it! -mm-hmm. we've been saving a lot of money ever since we switched to progressive. this bar is legit. and now we get an even bigger discount from bundling home and auto. i can get used to this. it might take a minute.
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-swing and a miss! -slam dunk! touchdown! together: sports! remember how the economic crash touchdown! was supposed to be a wake up call for our government? people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. i'm tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it's why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse. they won't tell you that their so called “tax reform” plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations, while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit and that means fewer investments in education, health care and job creation. it's up to all of us to stand up to this president. not just for impeachable offenses, but also to demand a country where everyone has a real chance to succeed.
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♪ soledad: over the past few weeks, we've gotten a look at fake ads placed on facebook by russian propagandists during the 2016 election campaign. those ads were the subject of a high-profile congressional hearing with executives from facebook, twitter, and google. facebook executives estimate
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more than 150 million americans -- over a third of the population -- saw content from kremlin-backed troll farm, on -- troll farm. there is an important story behind that hearing. a small group of about a dozen self-made experts advised co campaigns, and helped prepare them to question the social media giants. renee diresta is a tech entrepreneur who works with an online volunteer community called "data for democracy." she is in san francisco today. it is so nice to talk to you, renee. thanks for being with one of your jobs is to look at fake news stories and watch in real-time how it spreads or . what can you tell us from just literally sitting there watching that? renee: so, it is really fascinating to watch it happen. you know, we know that journalists ac twitter for breaking stories, st your little blog post into prime time -- by attracting a critical
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we call it manufactured consensus. soledad: give me a good example of manufactured consensus that you have seen that we would all know. renee: right now, there is a hotly-contested election in alabama. and i think most people are probably familiar with the accusations against roy moore, who is the republican candidate there right now. the social media conversation around that has been absolutely fascinating. over the weekend, there was a troll, we will say, not exactly a bot account, called --- umpire43 was its handle. and it started to tweet about how it had inside knowledge th's accusers in "the washington and this was immediately picked up, i believe, by "the gateway pundit" and "info wars," and then by a number of accounts that began to tweet about this online, and to really amplify this message. and so this was -- we used tom really a lot more malicious than a hoax at this point. it is trying to fundamentally transform the outcom
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election. but this is the g where one would expect the tech company, at this point twitter, to step in and have a look at, and see if it is part of a broader campaign. soledad: let me ask you a qu whose responsibility is it, do you believe? is it google's, facebook's, twitter's responsibility to monitor, to police? is that the right word? to fix this? clearly, it is their algorithms that are allowing this problem, and we don't live in a perfect world where disinformation campaigns don't exist. renee: i think the platforms bear some degree of responsibility here, and that is because there is an assumption of trust on a platform like facebook in particular. people have much less of an expectation of trust on twitter. that is sort of the wild west. soledad: even people who love twitter hate twitter. yeah, renee: right. and i am one of them. [laughter] soledad: me too. renee: but on facebook, people really believe they are engaging with genuine people. they really believe fa
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made this part of its own brand. this is a place where people have to use their true names. and there is a real betrayal of their users there, when people find out people they have been engaging with the whole time are pages run by a front. it is not an easy fix, but it is something that we are starting to see incredible energy galv with folks like me who work in tech, and believe that the issue now is not to punish tech platforms -- it is to think forward and to build a more robust, defensible system, where this is not as easy or as cheap to do -- because we have 2018 and 2020 coming up in our own country. and even beyond elections, this is something we have to rein ino problem. renee diresta, nice to have you. thank you so much. we appreciate it. renee: thank you. >> when we of puerto ricans who have fled to the mainland after hurricane maria equals the population of
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dayton, ohio. evelyn: the people that contribute to the economy, the people that contribute to the education system -- those are the people that are leaving. >> what's at stake if we fail rebuild puerto rico? and later, how congress handcuffed the dea's power to prevent opioid abuse. soledad: the law, written by a drug industry lawyer, was approved in 2016 by unanimous consent, no vote. >> why top cops are pushing congress to give the power back.
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hurricane maria, puerto rico is still struggling to recover. the hurricane knocked out electricity to millions of residents and devastated its infrastructure. by our latest count, the power grid is generating at 50% capacity, one in 10 residents lack running water, and at least 2000 are still homeless. puerto rico is home to 3.4 million americans. by all reports, that number is in decline.
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nearly 139,000 puerto ricans have moved to florida since the hurricane hit on september 20. this weekend, a unity rally for puerto rico will be held here in washington. it is intended to draw attention to what many activists say is unequal treatment of those affected by acts of nature in texas, florida, puerto rico, and the u.s. virgin islands. evelyn mejil is the national chair of the event. it is so nice to have you. evelyn: thank you for having me. soledad: you bet. what are you marching for? what do you want out of the march? evelyn: i think at tf the day, what we want is to be treated with human dignity. i think the people of puerto rico are -- the people here that are puerto rican and u.s. ci point where we say enough is enough. it is time we are treated with dignity. it is time that we get the same treatment as everyone else. and i think that it is a day of solidarity, where we want to collectively raise our voices as one, and make sure that we stand together for our brothers and sisters in puerto rico.
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york. you spent much of yo in puerto rico. if only puerto ricans come to this march, is that still a success? evelyn: yes, this is not a puerto rican issue. this is a humanitarian issue. this is a all-people issue. i think that now puerto ricans are finally saying, hey, we need to be part of the same conversation that has been happening in the past years that we have been seeing. it is re culture -- black lives matter, the women's movement. something needs to change. puerto rico in a lot of ways is almost like a third-world country. it hasn't learned to develop to what it is. i mean, here you are with the most powerful nation of the world. you would think it would be developed, on many levels -- its government, its system, its roads. etc. we are u.s. citizens. you would think that we would be up right? we are not. soledad: so, then, let's talkabe past two referendums, puerto
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statehood. i think it was like 60-some-odd percent. what would be different if we weren't talking about a territory, but instead we were talking about puerto rico as a state? evelyn: i think it would be very different. but when it comes to that number, i mean there is -- there was 61% that came out in 2012 ty waas over 500,000 puerto ricans -- and you are talking about over 4 million puerto ricans that are in the island that are not coming out to vote. and you have to ask yourself, why? why is that? why is it that this is such a poor representation of the people of puerto rico? is it because people feel empowered that when they come out and vote that something is going to happen? i mean, at what point did co serious conversation with the people here and the people on the mainland? will puerto rico be independent or will puerto rico become a soledad: 139,000 people, that have been counted, have left the island and gone to florida. what are your concerns about that flow out of puerto rico and
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into the mainland? evelyn: i think it is the same concern that a lot of people have been talking about, right, that brain drain. the people that contribute to the economy, the people that contribute to the education system, the youth that are next to create families and have children, go to school, and create the puerto rico of tomorrow -- those are the people that are leaving, the people that have means. but the people that are staying behind, they are the elderly. they are the ones that don't have the means to leave the country, and probably don't ha the means -- they are probably the ones that are homeless, now. they are the ones that have been left without any type of security. i mean, this is a big problem. when we are talking about this, we have to question and ask ourselves, is there going to be a puerto rico tomorrow? soledad: evelyn mejil, good luck with the march. evelyn: thank you. soledad: nice to chat with you. evelyn: thank you. >> next on "matter of fact" -- soledad: when president trump
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took office nearly a year ago, protests. now, trials are beginning for some of the nearly 200 protesters arrested. >> and later, the life of a white house photographer. see his imprint on
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♪ soledad: now, to a weekly feature that we call "we'reti too busy." first, an update on our state of addiction coverage. on tuesday, attorneys general petitioned congress to repeal a law they say curbed the drug enforcement administration's power to stop the sale of hundreds of millions of prescription opioids on the black market. the law, written by a drug industry lawyer, was approved in 2016 by unanimous consent, no vote, and signed by president obama. the state attorneys general say the law makes it virtually impossible for the dea to suspend the operations of drug distributors for failing to report suspicious orders of the painkillers. for example, in kermit, west
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virginia, a town of just under 400 residents, a single pharmacy received roughly 9 million pills in two years. the group is asking to reinstate the dea's ability to enforce t law by taking action against drug companies, to prevent prescription drug abuse. when president trump took office nearly a year ago, washington, d.c. was rocked by protests. now, trials are beginning for some of the nearly 200 protesters arrested. six defendants went to trial wednesday in the d.c. superiorc. they each face at least eight charges for rioting, inciting others to riot, conspiracy to riot, and multiple acts of property destruction. all but two of those charges are felonies, with the most serious carrying a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison. >> when we return, president reagan hired him -- so did president obama -- to capture the memorable moments of the presidents and their families. the man behind the lens of history.
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people who've had a front row seat to history like pete souza. an official white house photographer for president reagan in the 1980's, souza ao worked as a freelancer for "national geographic" and "life" magazines. after the september 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, he was among the first journalists to cover the war in afghanistan and the fall of kabul. then, souza got a second term in the white house, serving for eight years as president obama's chief official photographer, taking nearly two million images that he's whittled down to a mere 319 in a coffee table book, "obama: an intimate portrait." among them, this famous photo in the situation room during the raid on osama bin laden's pakistan compound. pete: the thing that strikes me about that photograph now is, you have the most powerful people in the federal government, and they were
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think helps depict why their faces are so anxious and intense. soledad: over eight years, souza's eye captured history-- and humanity. as a courtesy, the president would often invite departing staff to bring their family into the oval office to have a family picture taken in front of the desk. pete: and jacob, in his shy voice, was like, my friends tell me that my hair is just like yours. and at that moment, president obama bent over, and jacob touched his head. and i snapped that one picture. soledad: and among the final shots, this one just an hour after attending donald trump's inauguration. souza accompanied president obama for one final pass over the white house before flying to a california vacation. looking down on the executive mansion, president obama said, "we used to live there." and given how often souza slept
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in his office to capture early morning white house shots, he kind of used to live there, too. i'm soledad o'brien. we'll see you next week for "matter of fact." in the meanwhile, have a great thanksgiving. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] ♪ ♪ ♪ we are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance,
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