In this episode of the It's Going Down podcast, we talk with two long time organizers who have worked both with migrants who have traveled with caravans as well as those stuck in limbo at the border in places like Tijuana. We discuss not only the current situation facing refugees and migrants fleeing political repression, poverty, and climate change, but also the imperial foreign policies pushed by the United States that have helped manifest the current situation; from US backed regime change, to the drug war, and the so-called "War on Terror."