all of us in that community or the population of el paso is 680000. yet more people are hospitalized with in this desert city and the totals in most us states. this parking lot is now a covert, overflowing. the downtown convention center is a field hospital. and doctors and nurses have worked without rest calling on colleagues from around the state for help. we are now basically outsourcing to be able to do it in i think that's on the good side if the origin it or helicopters are now transferring coded patients from el paso to emergency rooms across the state of texas to hospitals in san antonio and dallas. and here in houston, 1200 kilometers away, doctors here say they are treating not only those el paso covert patients, but also bracing for another influx of their own. we've got to change that. we have to stop that because all of us, every week, every person health at the moment we had diabetic exhausted. but doctors say there is no relief in sight. and that conflicting government orders are largely to blame . el paso's county executive order to lo

the streets of el paso are empty. as the city's funeral homes struggle to find space for the dead attend, the morgue truck has been requested to hold the bodies of people dying faster than can be buried. unfortunately, in my field, more levy is a fact. also the mission, the numbers i thin, the numbers of people who are now having these, all of these, what is really being malls are for us all of us in the store. the population of el paso is 680000, yet more people are hospitalized with in this desert city and the totals in most us states. this parking lot is now a covert, overflowing. the downtown convention center is a field hospital, and doctors and nurses have worked without rest calling on colleagues from around the state for help. we are now basically outsourcing to be able to do it in i think that's on the origin. it or helicopters are now transferring coded patients from el paso to emergency rooms across the state of texas, to hospitals in san antonio and dallas. and here in houston, 1200 kilometers away. doctor

the streets of el paso are empty. as the city's funeral homes struggle to find space for the dead attends the morgue truck has been requested to hold the bodies of people dying faster than can be buried. unfortunately, in my field, more levy is a fact. also the mission. the numbers i've been, the numbers of people who are now having these, all of these, what is really being most are for us. all of us in that community or the population of el paso is 680000. yet more people are hospitalized with in this desert city and the totals in most us states. this parking lot is now a covert, overflowing. the downtown convention center is a field hospital. and doctors and nurses have worked without rest calling on colleagues from around the state for help. we are now basically outsourcing to be able to do it in i think that's on the good side if the origin it or helicopters are now transferring covert patients from el paso to emergency rooms across the state of texas to hospitals in san antonio and dallas. and here in houston, 12

paso, texas. the hospitals are overwhelmed and the city officials there are saying they need to double the amount of more space available to them, anticipating more people dying from coronavirus. and then in this small state of north dakota on the border with canada, there, the hospitals are so overwhelmed and they're so short staffed that they're actually, they're saying that hospital staff and medical personnel that have tested positive are actually coming back to work because they're needed so badly in the hospitals. now, the cases in the united states in the last week have gone up 40 percent, the hospitalizations, up 20 percent, and the death toll up 23 percent in the united states. so this is, a problem that is markedly worse here in the u.s., and it's clear that this is going to have to be a top priority of president elect biden. he is taking the next 2 days off at his vacation home at a beach not too far from here, taking some rest, but he says, and his staff says that he will be meeting wi

paso, there are multiple mobile morgue units parked behind hospitals in north dakota. another hot spot that the governor there has authorized medical staff who have tested positive for cobra who are 8th symptomatic to continue working classes, the desperation for nurses and doctors to continue their work. mass protests have been taking place across peru after martin. this car was removed as president protesters force with police outside congress in the capital lima. this current remains very popular despite accusations of corruption that led to his impeachment . the funeral for cheap negotiators will be held later on wednesday. he died on tuesday from cope with 19 complications. erick has served as the chief negotiator in peace talks. with israel for 2 and a half decades. russian peacekeeping troops have been deployed to new, going to care about following a deal to end 6 weeks of fighting. the disputed region is internationally recognized as part of but is controlled by ethnic armenians. if european central government has vowed to continue a military operation in the n

paso, there are multiple mobile morgue units parked behind hospitals in north dakota. another hot spot, the governor there has authorized medical staff who have tested positive, who are asymptomatic to continue working with us is the desperation for nurses and doctors to continue their work. now that is the bad news, but the good news that americans are hoping for is of course what we heard on monday that there is a vaccine candidate with a 90 percent efficacy against kovac developed by pfizer. and today that the u.s. health secretary alex is our lead, laid out a very optimistic timeline for distribution of that and other vaccines. he says that by december, the medical 1st responders as well as nursing home residents, may be the 1st to receive doses of those vaccines, followed by more frontline workers in january. and there's very optimistic scenario. the general population of americans by march or april of next year. are you cain quire, a scrutinising undercover police tactics is expected to hear evidence 5 years after it was set up. it will look at how undercover off

paso for example we know that patients there have been reportedly dying faster than they can even be diagnosed with those horrendous images that we've unfortunately grown accustomed to seeing across the country of work trucks etc so certainly her on a virus is not something that trump wants to talk about but it is an escape a hopeful particularly here in texas all right. in houston we've got another results coming in now the polls in virginia close at 0 g.m.t. and the u.s. networks are saying that joe biden has won the state of virginia 13 electoral college votes going to joe. biden projection in fact 13 electoral college votes going to joe biden in virginia and go and live to kimberly how kate white house correspondent until this virginia results can believe things were going as expected by a win for biden in virginia why did significant. well it's significant because this is once a state that was solidly republican but what we have seen in recent years is because of changing demographics the fact that much of virginia borders washington d.c. which of course is very liberal but in f

check of course is still early in the night so we're still expecting some of the border counties and el paso county to repeat reporting their results later they are the last polls to have close and they are democratic leaning so certainly there's still a fighting chance here for joe biden which is a highlight in itself for democrats we saw that this 1st time in a long time texas being competitive. interpreted as a large voter turnout especially among the urban cores of texas and large metropolitan areas and in the suburbs and in particularly the suburbs surrounding austin texas flipping blue for the 1st time which is a continuation of the trend we've been seeing since 28 in the midterm elections certainly state democrats are already counting that in itself as a win and they're still holding out hope even though political experts are by a large part saying that it is very unlikely that joe biden wins texas this year however that trend toward turning blue is certainly ongoing as continued demographic changes in this state with more latinos voting more young voters voting certainly tend to

it started in houston, it went to the rio grande valley, and now it is in el paso. and we're only going to get a hold of as we take care of this as a population, social distancing, masks and strategic shutdowns of businesses and events that are spreading the disease. but if it does not happen, if we do not do that, which would do not look like we will do, are we effectivelyjust waiting for a vaccine was blue the only thing we can do to control it is exercising the tools that we have. right now, those tools, again, are social distancing, masking and washing your hands. one of the difficulties with this still remains the problem we do not have enough tests, to test everybody stop where i work, for every three patients that we test positive, that come in with symptoms, there is one that tests positive that had zero symptoms whatsoever, so there are people out in the community, wandering around, spreading the disease unknowingly to the family members, to their friends or anybody else they might come in contact with. as you said, the cdc reckoned as you wear a mask not o

in el paso, so many people have died that 10 mobile morgues have been sent to the city. these pictures are from tuesday. and these pictures are from the city of lubbock — mobile medical tents have been sent there. doctor robert hancock is the president of the texas college of emergency physicians and joins us live now. thank you for your time. can you help us understand the pressure that is currently being exerted on health care in texas? yes, as we are seeing hospitalisation dramatically increase over the last couple of weeks, it first started putting strain on more rural hospitals where they had limited capacity to begin with and as those got overwhelmed, the old way of handling it would be to tra nsfer the old way of handling it would be to transfer those patients out once they were over capacity to i see you in bigger cities. the bigger cities are filling up so there is nobody to accept those patients any more so we are having critically ill patients in emergency departments that really would be better served in icus. el pasois would be better served in icus. el pa

in el paso in texas, mobile morgues have been brought in. the covid death toll across the nation is set to rise. unless there is a concerted effort by all the governors in all the states to get on top of this virus quickly, within the next 60 days, we're going to see widespread death, suffering, sadness. there are countries getting things right. in taiwan, the new normal means masks everywhere and rapid tracing of new infections. the total today, just eight — the result of responding quickly. by moving very early on in the pandemic, it did help them probably continue to have a hold on the virus within their country. but i think what this virus is showing us is that you just can't become relaxed, you cannot become complacent. in south australia, the whole city of adelaide is in a six—day lockdown after a new cluster of cases. it's one of many different approaches while we wait for the vaccines. david shukman, bbc news. while the coronavirus pandemic intensifies, donald trump's personal lawyer has laid out wild, far—reaching conspiracy t

in el paso in texas, mobile morgues have been brought in. the covid death toll across the nation is set to rise. unless there is a concerted effort by all the governors in all the states to get on top of this virus quickly, within the next 60 days, we're going to see widespread death, suffering, sadness. there are countries getting things right. in taiwan, the new normal means masks everywhere and rapid tracing of new infections. the total today, just eight — the result of responding quickly. by moving very early on in the pandemic, it did help them probably continue to have a hold on the virus within their country. but i think what this virus is showing us is that you just can't become relaxed, you cannot become complacent. in south australia, the whole city of adelaide is in a six—day lockdown after a new cluster of cases. it's one of many different approaches while we wait for the vaccines. david shukman, bbc news. let's get some of the day's other news. the us secretary of state mike pompeo has become the first top us diplomat to pay

one in 25 people in el paso in texas currently testing positive. what sort of pressure is that putting on itu beds in the local hospitals? there's been tremendous pressure put on hospitals, not only in el paso but across the country and especially in rural communities across the united states, as more and more people are contracting a virus. 0ver and more people are contracting a virus. overtime, two to four and more people are contracting a virus. over time, two to four weeks after that, we're seeing a steady increase in hospitalisations and ultimately, we will properly see an increase in deaths as well. this pandemic has got out of control and the biggest problem that we've had is that not every state, not every locality, is using the appropriate countermeasures that they need to be doing in order to counteract the virus. let's take one state in particular, mississippi. it's about the size of a country like albania, about 3 million people. it has got the highest death rate per hundred thousand people in the united states. 119 people per hundred t

the severity of the coronavirus crisis in the us can be seen in local snapshots — in el paso texas — the national guard is helping in morgues and mortuaries while new york is reopening an emergency covid—19 patient facility on staten island. across the country daily case numbers continue to rise. there are now more than 85,800 covid—19 patients in us hospitals — the 14th straight day this count set a pandemic record. now if we focus on north dakota — cases were low through the first two waves — but like the rest of the midwest — cases have been surging. and the state has one of the highest mortality rates in the world with 111 deaths per 100,000 people. our correspondent larry madawo joins us now from jamestown, north dakota. i was reading a statement from the governor that health care workers who are positive for covid—19 but not showing symptoms can keep working in covid—19 units, that shows how desperate they are for staffing. absolutely, and it was a controversial decision that health ca re controversial decision that health care workers would have to show up and

that has happened in el paso. of happening in other cities in the country where people do not want a lockdown for the local governments do not have a choice to administer like towns because they are worried about the health care system. i do worry that is a significant health care risk if this resurgence keeps escalating. we are headed in the wrong direction. over the next two quarters, i am optimistic we are going to grow at very strong rates. a real downside over the next two quarters is, does the resurgence get so bad it forces like towns because of overwhelmed health care systems -- forces lockdowns because of overwhelmed health care systems? >> i thought our team at bloomberg had the strongest day with experts on the pandemic and i did make note of el paso a number of days or weeks ago and the critical situation there. for you and your team at the dallas fed, it is it a -- is it a question of days, weeks or strengthfore we find in our hospital care? .> it is probably weeks it may not be months. we track mobil

that has happened in el paso, for example. it is at risk by our measure of having it in other cities in the country, where people don't want to lock down but local governments do not have a choice but to administer lockdowns because they worry about the health care system. i do worry that that is a significant health care risk if this resurgence keeps escalating the way it is. we are heading in the wrong direction. over the next two quarters, i am very optimistic that we are going to grow at very strong rates. but a real downside over the , does theuarters is resurgence get so bad it forces lockdowns because of overwhelmed health care systems throughout the country? that's what we are watching for as a real risk. tom: robert kaplan, i look at the two quarter slowdown. i will say this word with a broader perspective. the history you have at harvard business school, which is our nation's productivity. what is your study of our nation's productivity through this pandemic and what do you see over the next two quarters? robert: it

that happened in el paso for example. it is at risk by our measure of it happening in other cities in the country where people don't want to lock down but the local government does not have a choice-- don't have a but to lock down their health care system. we are headed in the wrong direction. over the next two quarters, i am very optimistic that we are going to grow at very strong rates but a real downside over the next two quarters is if the resurgence gets so bad, it forces lockdowns because of overwhelmed health care systems. >> i cannot say enough. i thought that they had their strongest day with the experts on the pandemic. i did make note of el paso a number of days and weeks ago and the critical situation there. for you and for your team at the dallas fed, is it a question of days, weeks or months? before we find the constrained -- constrained in our hospital care? in our hospital care? >> it will probably be weeks, not months. we are watching wisconsin, we have noticed all of the sudden mobility and engagement ha

you see in some areas, take el paso for example, they are building tense across the city. they are bringing in mobile morgues for all the people dying. they literally don't have a place to put the bodies. still, in texas, we don't have things like mask mandates and lockdowns happening. it's going to take a phenomenal number of deaths and hospitalizations. we will have to see hospitals overwhelmed and people not able to get the care they need, not just for coronavirus. it is very much one of the situations where people are not that's willing to inconvenience themselves. there are pretty devastating, isolating conditions. there are things that happen from being shut down, not just economic but emotional and physical as well. it's going to have to get to a higher level before we see the shutdowns. guy: michelle, it is always -- alix: michelle, it is always good to get your perspective. opec is releasing a gloomy outlook, releasing its global demand and forecasts still in the middle of this pandemic. oil prices are getting a nice pop, up by about 2%. we break that down with ch

in texas, the city of el paso has more people hospitalized with the virus than in 29 states. starting today, the european union will impose tariffs on $4 billion worth of u.s. goods, a tit-for-tat escalation of a fight over illegal aid to aircraft many factors boeing and airbus. the eu says it would drop the tariffs if the u.s. removes duties imposed by eu products last year. the european union has filed antitrust charges against amazon. that escalates an investigation into how the company handled data from rival sellers on its massive online platform. the eu competition commissioner favorhe come but not its own -- says the retailer should not favor its own onvices over those listing the site. global news 24 hours a day, on air and on bloomberg quicktake, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i'm ritika gupta. this is bloomberg. ♪ ka gupta. this is bloomberg. ♪ sen. mcconnell: we have the system in place to consider concerns, and president trump is 100% thin his rights to look into allegations of hisgularities and weigh legal optio

lisa: a lot of people may be listening to this from des moines or cleveland or el paso and they are looking at a metropolitan transport authority that is an debt. they wonder why we should be paying for the situation that is in hand. extraordinary situation, but why should it fall on them? there is mass transit in cleveland, there is mass transit in austin, texas. in san francisco, los angeles, new orleans, across the country. blue states, red states, mass transit is important. it happens to be the mta carries 40% of mass transit riders. we are a larger operation with larger financial challenges. every mass transit agency in the country has been affected, not at the same level of the mta given our ridership. on a typical day, we carry 7.5 million customers, the largest in north america. every one of the transit agencies is feeling same pressure. we will have to take steps not all like those we are talking about. no one at the mta once to make these cuts because -- wants to make these cuts because it is not what new york needs for recovery and it is not for first responders and other employe

el paso, the numbers out of there are just scary. tom: this is what is really important here, the overlay of income distribution, of poverty, and also of the morbidities that are out there right now. it speaks to obesity. it speaks to age. it speaks to a lot of other social issues. as we mentioned with emily wilkins, i just don't understand the rigidities in washington over the immediate, which to me seems worse than april. maybe i am off on that. jonathan: in some places it is. we can crunch the numbers later in the program. alongside tom keene and lisa abramowicz, i'm jonathan ferro. much more still to come. a little later today, you will be hearing from chairman powell, president lagarde, and governor bailey. up next on this program, you will hear from chris ver strategas research partners. this is bloomberg. ♪ - [announcer] imagine having fuller, thicker, more voluminous hair instantly. all it takes is just one session at hairclub. introducing xtrands. xtrands adds hundreds or even thousands of hair strands to your existing hai

problems in el paso at the county level as well. thanksgiving is just around the corner. huge amount of travel coming up in america, and you wonder how quickly they might have to move. tom: that is all accurate. i would say that to me the granularity is important. if you are in idaho and you are sick and you are supposed to go to salt lake city, that is maybe not happening because of the hospitalization challenges. i know you will mention our wonderful guest coming up. i want to say to everyone, this is the interview i have tried to have for the past three days because it was scheduled -- because of his schedule, general mark kimmitt cannot be with us until now, but he knows these people in the pentagon we are all learning about. jonathan: that conversation comes up next on the program. brigadier general mark kimmitt, former assistant secretary of state. york,ondon and new alongside tom keene and lisa abramowicz, i'm jonathan ferro. on bloomberg radio and tv with an equity market down 11 points. we recover a little bit. 50 minutes out from the opening bell this thursday m

some hospitals are compromised in el paso, texas, wisconsin. we have to work on our hospital system's ability to respond. we have nursing homes getting engulfed. there are many challenges we will have to face. the current president still has a lot of work to do to get this under control. if there is a change in administration, i think there is a chance to get this on a better track, so there is a willingness to look at these policies and realize how disruptive this virus has been to our lives. david: how big of a role can the president play with respect to cdc, nih? how important is it who the president is to that question? dr. adalja: it usually isn't, but for the last four years, we have seen some of these public health agencies, especially in the pandemic, having to express realty to the president, rather than to the facts. we saw the cdc put in a backseat position and basically handcuffed, where everybody second-guessed their guidance because nobody knows if they have been politically manipulated. saw the president and hydroxychloroquine an

the city of el paso in texas has more people hospitalized with the virus than in 29 states. the european union will impose $4.5 billion of u.s. goods, a tit-for-tat escalation in a says it -- the e.u. would drop the tariffs if the u.s. removed duties imposed on e.u. products last year. u.k., the house of lords suggested government plans to break international law over brexit, voting to remove the most controversial parts of the international market bill for internal market bill. it gives ministers the power to rewrite parts of the brexit deal johnson signed with e.u.. global news 24 hours a day, on air and at bloomberg quicktake, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries, i'm ritika gupta. this is bloomberg. much.hanks so how about a data check after what we saw yesterday? extraordinary. let me give you levels, much more than change. spf, 35.51, up eight points. here, dell futures yesterday touched 30,000 for a split-second, and then came back foot -- dow futures yesterday touched 30,000 for a split second. then came back. off the rebound

in texas, el paso has more people hospitalized with the virus than 29 states. in the u.k., the house of to removected a plan the most controversial parts of the internal market bill. prime minister boris johnson immediately vowed to push ahead with the legislation that gives ministers the power to rewrite parts of the brexit deal johnson signed with the eu. european union has filed antitrust charges against amazon. that accelerates an investigation on the massive online platform. they say amazon's rules should not favor its own offers or those of-- offers over retailers using amazon's services for distribution. global news 24 hours a day, on air and on bloomberg quicktake, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i'm ritika gupta. this is bloomberg. ♪ mr. biden: i will spare no effort to turn this pandemic around once we are sworn in on january 20, to get our schools back to -- to get our kids back to school safely their economy running at full speed again, and to get a vaccine manufactured and distributed as quickly as p

paso, right it won't happen in your town 15 days ago we talked with an el paso doctor. he said it was getting worse but they were ready. >> i think the country realizes this could be a dark and tragic time over the next four weeks. cases get hospitalizations which, sadly, beget deaths now it's a whole new world doctor, is the system in el paso capable of with standing the surge? >> we thought it was, but obviously it hasn't, and it won't for the next foreseeable future for the few weeks that come ahead i don't see how we can continue to absorb the impact we see coming to our ers and hospitals. we are getting to capacity >> is there treatment for them or very complicated? >> there is treatment. it is complicated. we are taking all of the patients coming in besides the covid patients, but there is no place to put them. they are hooking up places outside the hospital in tents. the government is setting up a facility where we are housing patients with covid. we are opening bed space in hospitals, not acute hospitals, but long-term acute care facilities now -- >> i apologize

in el paso, covid killed almost 300 people over the past month, the most of any county in the lone star state. that's according to the covid tracking project, and the victim's bodies are piling up. the situation so bad in that county, it's bringing in more freezer trucks to hold the dead. el paso's county judge imposing a brand new curfew it takes effect tomorrow night ahead of the thanksgiving holiday. so that's the midwest and the south. coming up in a few minutes, we'll show you the west coast and the northeast. plus, a report on new guidelines from the cdc how long will your post vacation quarantine last? a change may be coming >>> the transition now, the biden team reports it's now communicating and interacting with all federal agencies. president-elect biden introducing his national security leaders just this afternoon. that group filled with veterans of the obama, biden administration the president-elect also sat down with nbc news lester holt for his first interview since the election. >> the head of the gsa yesterday unlocked the mechanisms for there to be a formal transition o

move bodies of covid victims into freezer trucks the situation so bad that el paso county is hiring inmates at $2 an hour to cart away the dead and the minneapolis "star tribune" reports there are no beds anywhere in the state the crisis also taking a toll on ambulance workers overwhelmed by the surge in patients. nbc news ellisonbarber live in st. paul what are ems workers there facing these days? >> well, shepard, they say the calls just keep coming they have not really had a moment to even breathe and as we see the numbers rise, the hospitalizations go up paramedics tell us they are getting more and more calls every day from people having covid like symptoms. the state of minnesota actually asked the federal government to send them staffed ambulances from out of state and they got 25 of them on friday the state says that they will use those ambulances to transfer patients from one hospital to another in an effort to ease hospital bed capacity concerns and free up local ems to respond to other emergencies so we spent the day talking to paramedics and doctors at hospitals in the ar

for example, el paso, which you mentioned earlier. they're stretched to their limits we certainly felt that same sort of stretch in houston and in dallas earlier in the year during the summer. and so it's a very uncomfortable feeling. as i said, the principle problem when we're at capacity or dealing with a large surge, is that people then are unwilling to come for care, are not able to come for care so, we want to avoid those as much as we can >> yeah quick final question there's been a lot of talk about how the pfizer vaccine needs to be stored in incredibly low temperatures and a lot of rural hospitals may not have those resources. is that a problem you think we can solve by the time it's widely distributed or is this something we need to be ringing the alarm bells about right now? >> no, i think we can solve that problem. we've known for some time that these vaccines require ultracold storage and special arrangements for transportation as well as distribution and administration. we're not particularly worried here about those cond

. >> we're seeing some stories even today about capacity in el paso at the same time, though, we got a new mask mandate out of utah and some dining restrictions out of new jersey today. are public officials at the state level reacting in time to make that dark picture a little less dark? >> first of all, all the cases we're going to add in the next three weeks are basically in the pipeline we had a miraculous change in behavior, we saw people not going into large crowds be not dining and eating out, not congregating in places like gyms and so forth, we will still have a major challenge on our hand. what we're concerned about particularly as we're going into the holiday season where we're going to see lots of travel and transmission in our homes today is a very major source of transmission when you bring people in from the outside i don't think america gets this yet. this is going to get much worse. this is not to scare people out of their wits, it's to scare people into their wits it's still in our control. if not, everything i just laid out, the case numbers, we're going to look bac

more than 10% of all the cases in the country are there in el paso, they brought in freezer trucks to hold the dead covid victims. six trucks so far. four more they say are coming because the morgues can't hold all the dead in utah, the governor declared a state of emergency he's refused to mandate masks across that state, but now with the deaths at an all-time high, he finally came around masks required now says the governor for the foreseeable future the doctors say there's no stopping this in its tracks, not right now. and what's ahead is going to be historically bad cal perry is live in chicago new restrictions in illinois, cal? >> reporter: yeah, shep, it's really, really bad here in the midwest. take this number in the midwest. where you are in new york, the positivity rate is 2%. here in chicago it's 12% in wisconsin it is 30% 1 in every three tests is coming up positive. we've been talking to doctors here all day dr. ben singer who works in northwestern, he was here when cases peaked in may. he's worried we'll see an increase and that it could come at the worst time of year. t

paso and they're worried about not just icu bed space, but staffing that's a major concern that they're dealing with heading into the winter months here in minnesota, new covid cases have spiked more than 125% over the last two weeks and that's not what really sticks with this nurse. take a listen. >> when i think of the rise, i think -- i see my patient's faces. i don't really think of numbers. i just really think of my patients >> also today, shep, minnesota reported a record number of covid-related deaths >> gabe, as experts warn of a dark winter ahead, all hinges on a vaccine. a safe and effective vaccine and that's why the trials are so important. news today from the drug manufacturer moderna, that company reports it now has enough cases to analyze its trial and that means results could come within days this after pfizer reported its vaccine was more than 90% effective in trials. cnbc's meg terrell now meg, this sounds like good news, what are the experts saying? >> shep, it's good news for those of us impatiently waiting to see if another one of these vaccines will work and dr. fa