seuss and stoke the fake outrage. he is reading it because he is like, it's cancel culture and blaming it on democrats and has had nothing to do with democrats. nothing at all. as a matter of fact that particular one, by dr. seuss is still in distribution. so is minone of it makes any se. they are playing you and are you going to fall for it? he is trying to stoke the fake outrage machine. they are covering every angle. the biggest most important issue of our time is this. >> as you know, dr. seuss has been cancelled. >> i the do not like to cancel books. i do not like how that looks. >> person is ke rmit and the muppets. >> i do not like it anywhere. >> a 2017 tweet from kamala harris praised dr. seuss. >> i do not like it in the store, i do not want it anymore. >> let me quote barack obama saying pretty much all the stuff you need to know is in dr. seuss. >> this week alone, they cancelled mr. potato head. you know, this week alone, they cancelled the muppets. they are cancelling dr. seuss from reading programs. >>

seuss. so, let's consider what democrats are focused on and what republicans are focused on. are you with me? okay. here's some more truth telling for you. democrats moving ahead on covid relief with zero support from republicans and moving ahead on voting rights in the bill that the house passed last night. the gop focusing on dr. seuss and defending neanderthals. seriously? well, i don't think they are. here's what president joe biden said yesterday about governors lifting covid restrictions too soon. >> the last thing -- the last thing -- we need is neanderthal thinking that in the meantime everything's fine, take off your masks, forget it. >> okay. and that's at the gop fake outrage machine into motion. yes, i said fake outrage machine, right into motion. they really, really, really want to make this happen. >> neanderthals are hunter/gatherers. they're protectors of their family. they are resilient. they're resourceful. they tend to their own. so, i think joe biden needs to rethink what

seuss, do not get lost. they lost the white house and they are still disgraced, twice impeached, they don't care one bit about with dr. seuss. they don't care about dr. seuss at all. they don't care about mr. potato head, at all. they don't care about neanderthal, it doesn't necessarily mean -- there's no nuance maerp, it means your thought is backwards. maybe he has a point. you i m-- i mean, you are promoting dr. seuss, maybe he has a point. meet the republicans. they are just counting on fake outrage to distract you while millions americans who cannot pay the rent, can't put food on the table and are desperate for covid relief. they have to come up with some sort of narrative about joe biden, because joe biden is ignoring them and getting his agenda done and doing his job. he is ignoring them and trying to get relief to the american people. they have to create some sort of negative narrative about joe biden to make themselves look good and to make the former president, that is a tall order. that will take

seuss. they don't care about dr. seuss, at all. they don't care about mr. potato head, at all. they don't care about neanderthals. as a matter of fact, it wasn't neanderthals. it was neanderthal thinking. which doesn't, necessarily, mean that you are a neanderthal. but there is no nuance, anywhere. it just means that your thought is backwards. maybe, he has a point. when you're promoting dr. seuss. maybe, he has a point. mirror, meet the republicans. they're just counting on fake outrage to distract you, while millions of americans, who can't pay the rent, can't put food on the table, and are desperate for covid relief. they have to come up with some sort of narrative about joe biden because joe biden is ignoring them. and getting his agenda done, and doing his job. he is ignoring them, and trying to get help to the american people. so, they have to create some sort of -- create some sort of negative narrative about joe biden to make themselves look good. and to make the former president look good. that is a tall order. that'll take a lot of work. and i don't think -- you can't

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seuss enterprise is making this decision. this is from one of the books that will no longer be published called if i ran the zoo. "outfront" now, carrig granger is an english tempacher. why schools should rethink dr. seuss. it's cancel culture or isn't. you've been careful. you talked about how you received a collection of dr. seuss books for your soon to be born son and thought it would be a great addition to his book collection. my mother wasn't into dr. seuss but when i graduated, i got the book "the places you'll go." now you peel dfeel differently that gift for your son. tell me why. >> there is a lot of learning taking place and awareness that is happening. i wasn't as aware seven years ago when i had my son about the racist images in a lot of dr. seuss' children's books but now that i'm more informed, i think it's worth thinking through a little more and maybe moving towards books that are more inclusive and more diverse. there are so many other options that do exactly what dr. seuss books have done that aren't seeped

seuss. six of dr. seuss' books will no longer be published because they portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong. that is according to dr. seuss enterprises, the company that looks after the author's legacy. the company saying its catalog should represent and support all communities and families. among the books no longer published, and to think that i saw it on mulberry street, that's one of them. also, if i ran the zoo. i'm about to show you some of the illustrations from "if i ran the zoo." for those of you who read it as a child, you may be familiar with the images. before i put them on-screen, i just want to remind you they are offensive. i want to show you some of the illustrations because it's important that you understand the reason why the company is no longer going to publish these books. okay. here they are. there are images like this one, okay, showing what the book says are helpers who all wear their eyes at a slant. there's also this portrayal of africans. it's truly a caricature

seuss. six booked will no longer be published according that dr. seuss enterprises. among the books no longer publish, "and to think i saw it on mulberry street" and "if i ran the zoo". before i put them on the screen i want to remind you they are offensive. i want to show you. it's important you understand the reason why the company is no longer going publish these books. here they are. there are images like this one showing what the book says are helpers who all wear there eyes at a slant. there's also this portrayal of africans. it's a caricature of the worst stereotypes of black people. joinings now, the author of "was the cat in the hat black"? the hidden racism in children's literature and the need for diverse books. i'm so glad to have you on. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> you are a scholar of children's literature and, this topic is our specialty. what do you think about the decision by dr. seussenter prices to stop printing these six books? >> i'm glad to see them taking responsibility for the culture they're putting in the world and pro

seuss. >> as you know, dr. seuss has been canceled. >> i do not like to cancel books. i do not like how that looks. >> first it was kermit the frog and the muppets now mr. potato head, now dr. seuss. >> i do not like it here nor there. i do not like it anywhere. >> 2017 tweet from vice president kamala harris praised dr. seuss. >> i don't like it in the store. i do not want it anymore. >> let me just quote barack obama in 2015 saying, quote, pretty much all the stuff you need to know is in dr. seuss. >> this week alone, they canceled mr. potato head. this week alone they canceled the muppets. you know, they're canceling dr. seuss from reading programs. >> hitler's meinkomp is available for e bail but dr. seuss' six books were removed. >> just when you thought it wouldn't get any weirder, we say hitler and dr. soeuss in the sae sentence. why. >> some people say why are you covering this so much? >> maybe we didn't vote for that package because it had more -- you know, the policies, right? it should have had more liability relief, for example, or the state and local fund

seuss. >> dr. seuss wrote a story. there are two groups in the story. those with star shaped designs on their stomachs and those without. underneath the stars, they're all the same. they're all sneechs. who cares who's got a star? american children have read the sneechs and books like it. and that's one of the reasons we have the country we have today. >> so, hear this. no one is cancelling the sneechs. no one is cancelling "the cat and the hat." six dr. seuss books are being pulled for hurtful depictions, not by joe biden or some fake higher power woke mob, but by the company that controls tsues books. they did it themselves. it wasn't somebody calling for it. it wasn't joe biden. but kevin mccarthy won't let the facts get in the way of a bad argument. >> under the constitution we generally defer to states and counties to run elections. democrats want to change that. first they outlaw dr. seuss. now they want to tell us what to say. >> again, democrats did not outlaw dr. seuss. the company that -- dr. seuss' own company pulled them. josh hawley acting

seuss books actually pulled by dr. seuss enterprises but that effectively captured more attention from conservatives than this gigantic spending bill. >> yeah, it's an extraordinary moment and extraordinary poem, so congratulations, first of all, on your seuss imitation. look, what we saw in this covid fight, covid relief bill, in some ways the most important thing was, as in sheryl of course sherlock holmes, the dog that didn't bark. a bill that spent $1.9s trillion, double the obama stimulus and vastly more than clinton's plan in 1993 and i think that reflects both the popularity of the bill 70% support today in a poll including 40% republicans, but even more importantly it reflects the except to which the republican coalition animated and mobilized primarily by issues of cultural and racial grievance rather than the size of government and that could have big implications in serving democratic moderates and centrists to be comfortable not only with this plan but what might be coming next, very large infrastructure pr

seuss is being canceled. it is the dr. seuss copyright owners who are actually benefitting. aum. can you imagine "cat in the hat" being canceled? >> i cannot imagine, sam-i-am. i cannot imagine. brian stelter, you walked right into that one, buddy. >> you were ready. >> brian, thanks so much. >> thanks. >>> the royal showdown. meghan markle accusing buckingham palace of spreading falsehoods about her and harry. >>> and trump's department of justice criminal ethics about a secretary abusing her authority. look, this isn't my first rodeo and let me tell you something, i wouldn't be here if i thought reverse mortgages took advantage of any american senior, or worse, that it was some way to take your home. it's just a loan designed for older homeowners, and, it's helped over a million americans. a reverse mortgage loan isn't some kind of trick to take your home. it's a loan, like any other. big difference is how you pay it back. find out how reverse mortgages really work with aag's free, no-obligation reverse mortgage guide. eliminate monthly mortgage payments, pay bills, medical cos

seuss. i don't know. you know, so dr. seuss' family will say, we want to take the books offline because it doesn't represent. they'll go, we're going to buy them because we're going to lean into the racism. the palace will say, look, recollections vary and these allegations and the questions about racism are very serious. we're going to look into them. and the right goes, there is no racism. we're going to lean into it. all of a sudden, you have the right who is always anti-royal family pretty much. now they're supporting the royal family and they have become the press release, so to speak, for -- for buckingham palace? it's quite interesting, isn't it? it always has to be for some reason lately the opposition party. i wonder why. >> they're straight-up opposition. >> they are. >> what's going on with these laws across the states being put forward by republican administrations at the state level -- >> it's jim crowe. it's voter suppression. >> just look at the bills. you don't have to believe us. there is 250 of them out

seuss, where they're complaining that dr. seuss has been canceled when the estate of dr. seuss decided to not publish six books, right? i don't even know how many books there are of dr. seuss, but there are a lot of books. >> and then they're buying the books. i think they're on the best-seller's -- so they're actually helping the people who, in their words, canceled. it's mind-boggling, but go on, kirsten. >> but the thing about it is, the serious part of it is that the reason that some of these -- the estate decided to pull some of these books is because they had imagery in them that were considered racist by their own opinion, the people of the estate. why do you want -- why are you proud to be a person who is fighting for racist imagery in children's books? i mean this is what they're spending their time on rather than recognizing that these books were written a long time ago. there were images in them that shouldn't have been there. they're just going to remove them. this is what civilized societies do. this is what decent people do. this is how decent people treat e

seuss. let me argue. many of the rights parties constituents are struggling from a pandemic they long denied. with a president they want to lose, they are making a choice. duck real problem solving in favor of culture fights. be a true opposition party. one that opposes whatever it can as a proxy for getting anything done. they are simply against. and the top of the list is against owning the reality of racism. if that's not true, why else is there this markle madness on the right? why are they so concerned about this story and whether or not it's true? after four years of empowering the biggest liar in presidential history, now you have a thing for truth? doubtful. tonight the queen doesn't deny accusations of racism. against the royal family. in the family's first public statement since the bomb drops. but people here on the right continue to savage markle and her story. something struck a nerve with them. was it a multi-racial woman speaking out against an institutional white royal family? no, no it's

seuss. here is congressman tim ryan when he lost patience on the house floor. >> if we were passing a tax cut you would be getting in line to vote yes for it. stop talking about dr. seuss and start working with us on behalf of the american workers. >> he is absolutely right about that. they don't have any problem throwing down the debt and borrowing money. that is clear. how is the biden administration planning to manage this bill now? >> well, i think managing it will be the next big challenge this. is a big bill. the biggest cash infusion going to the american people, especially during the pandemic. >>menting it -- now the politic battle that is facing them. this is coming during tax season. the irs has a lot to deal with. they have to focus on sending out the $1,400 stimulus checks to americans that are eligible for them and how they are going to work with the child tax credit. this is something the white house press secretary talked about earlier today. it is not going to happen in the n

seuss, mr. potato head, and donald trump because those are like the three wise men of the republican party right now. and i'm not here for it. >> amanda, thank you. bakari, thank you as well. i'll see you soon. we'll get your audio fixed. you look good, but you don't sound great tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks very much. >>> are senate democrats getting outmaneuvered by the gop, and should they be asking, what would mitch mcconnell do? >> we all know this will merely delay the inevitable. it will accomplish little more than a few sore throats for the senate clerks, who work very hard day in, day out to help the senate function. now here are a couple answers... lysol disinfectant spray and lysol disinfecting wipes together can be used on over 100 surfaces. and kill up to 99.9% of germs. lysol. what it takes to protect.

seuss/mr. potato head. republicans are focused on this not just because it's an issue that motivates their base, but they think their base is motivated by that long-term question of who has societal and cultural power? that is what this stuff is really about. it's not really about the gender of the potato or the canceling of the book. it's about who gets to have a say in what is popular and what is not, what is mainstream and what is not. they think their base is worried about the long-term loss of power from the kind of traditional and white and mainstream -- what we have determined has been the power centers of america, and that is what republicans think motivates their section. that's what the kind of cancel culture debates are truly getting at. >> in these virtual times, i must say i appreciate both astead and amanda for giving us good brick wall tonight. you guys give good brick wall. thank you very much. now i want to bring in jaime har harrison. thanks for joining. experts are saying that this covid

seuss, mr. potato head, and donald trump. those are like the three wise men of the republican party right now, and i'm not here for it. >> amanda, thank you. bakari, thank you. as well. i'll see you soon. we'll get your audio fixed. thank you. you look good, but you don't sound great tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks very much. >>> are senate democrats getting outmaneuvered by the gop, and should they be asking, what would mitch mcconnell do? >> we all know this will delay the inevitable. they'll accomplish little more than a few sore throat for the senate clerks who work very hard day in, day out to help the senate if he thinks. new from crest i've been telling everyone, the secret to great teeth... is having healthy gums. keep yours healthy with new crest advanced gum restore. it's clinically proven to detoxify below the gum line, and it restores by helping heal gums in as little as seven days. because you can't have a healthy smile, without healthy gums. advanced gum restore from crest. the #1 toothpaste brand in america. -

seuss. i think it's going take them many weeks to realize how much they got rolled by choosing not to engage in this debate. >> you mentioned dr. seuss, and they're complaining and calling this bill socialist, but instead of trying to amend it they were busy talking about dr. seuss and mr. potato head and the culture wars. that's seemingly what's important to them. i'm not sure if it's a very characteristic just a the say it's not the $1,400 checks or it doesn't have anything to do with shots going directly into people's arms that that still has nothing to do with covid relief, because a lot of businesses are struggling. there's going to be children that need help. there are many aspect of american culture and society that need help recovering because of covid. >> and a lot of the bill does deal with that, but $86 million pension bailout? the problems with unions far predated what happened with covid. transforming the child tax credit, maybe that should be done. andrew yang should be dancing

seuss. >> we should respect and honor dr. seuss. >> i would not eat green eggs and ham. i do not like them sam i am. >> no matter what the issue is they are just going to deflect over there and pick whatever culture war, happened to be dr. seuss at the time to fire up the base. policy be dammed. >> right. it is not what it is about, it is the easy political move. in this game of politics that they are playing here. when it is obviously not a game. when the congress was working on something that was and is very real to so many people's lives. a lot of republicans, including those that show may and do have real policy differences with a lot of the pieces of the very large tllegislation that is liky to be signed by president biden this week. they chose to not do it. there are a lot of reasons for that. one might be is that one of the main components of that bill is direct payments, the kind of direct payments they all support. in fact it is even lower than what the president that they all still pledge fielity to. the culture war is tried and true, specifically for republica

seuss has been canceled when the estate of dr. seuss decided not public six books. i don't know how many books there are of dr. seuss. >> they are buying the books. they are actually helping the people who -- it's mind boggling. >> but the thing about it is, the serious part of it, i think, is that the reason that some of the -- the estate decided to pull some of the books, they had imagery in theam were considered racist by their own opinion. the people of the estate. what are you proud to be a person who is fighting for racist energy in children's books? i mean this is what they are spending their time on, rather than recognize the books were written a long time ago. they are just going remove them. this is what civilized societies do. this is how decent people treat each other, and this is what they spend their time on. >> i think you just answered the whole thing. maybe it's not -- there's no decency there. >> that is how i feel about it. i feel like so much of the cancel culture stuff always comes down to just treating other people with consideration, respect r

seuss. than deal with the reality of january 6th. a white supremist terror attack about which they have decided to spin a tail stranger than anything. seuss ever wrote. let's take this idea to the better minds. van jones and -- thank you both. you are new to the show. i give you a chance to say i'm wrong first. what do you make of the suggestion i don't get why political actors on the right in america care so much about markle's story. even after the royals decided not to question it. in substance. >> i think doubting racism is almost an american past time. it makes people feel better about the sins of the country. and it allows them to continue to do nothing. and in this case, we see that steven miller a former trump adviser was very quick to dismiss and deflect from what she said in the interview. i think that reflects a general approach of the gop. when it comes to racism. we saw this with donald trump and charlottesville. playing both sides. the proud boys telling them to stand back and standby. the reality is that that struggle

seuss in the covid relief battle. but they decided the only thing that motivates its base is who holds the culture and political power in the country. they're thinking in the long-term. that i think relate to the voting rights and restrictions. . that gets a say on what's canceled or who's canceled. that's a pitch to the base by saying the power that you have had both as largely white, conservative, rural voters, but also as kind of people in this country to determine whether it's popular or not popular is slipping away, and that is something to be motivated by politically. that's a party that has made that calculation, overcaring about policy. >> i was having a conversation moments ago, and we were talking about the voter suppression and wondering if it's too late. you have, what, 253 bills trying to be passed around -- on the table at the vernal of being passed around the country. if the end goal here is massive voter suppression, which it clearly is, how then had democrats stop them? because they don't have to vote

seuss is supposedly being cancelled even though the books are not being banned. six books are being taken out of print by the dr. seuss foundation. the way that cancel culture is being used it doesn't mean anything. it's just become this empty buzz phrase that republicans and now even some democrats are basically using, simply to avoid accountability for their own misconduct. so i think it's time to retire it, and let's talk about the real issues, whether it's racism or sexism or harassment or violence, whatever those issues are, let's talk about those cases, let's retire this absurd buzz phrase. >> right on, max boot. let's read some of what you write. you said by talking about cancel culture the right can pretend that the real victims in america are white men and that there is nothing wrong with hurtful comments and even hurtful behavior against women or people of color. we should be far more concerned about the threat posed by white supremacists and by sexual harassment and sexual assault, than by the vastly overblown phenomenon of cancel culture. and yet, if

seuss. what has happened to the gop? what are they running on if not relief for desperate americans? they're running on empty, pointless culture wars and tying themselves up into knots over a former president who is in the rearview mirror. >> i could say, you know, that's it, it's over, it's done. that's just too easy. >> that's exactly what you said. remember? >> we've had a hell of a journey. i hate it being this way. oh, my god, i hate it. from my point of view, he's been a consequential president. but today, first thing you'll see, all i can say is count me out. enough is enough. >> that was then. that's when the capitol was still being cleaned up after a deadly riot. this is now. republicans like lindsey graham are back in thrall to a twice impeached, disgraced, one-term former president. >> there is something about trump. there is a dark side and there's some magic there. what i'm trying to do is just harness the magic. to me donald trump is sort of a cross between jesse helms, ronald regan and p.t. barnum. >> magi

seuss in the moment of this covid relief battle. but this is basically a party that has decided that the only thing that motivates its base is the question of who kind of holds the cultural and political power in this country, and they're thinking that in the long term. so that i think relates to the voting rights and restrictions. that relates to who gets a say on what is canceled or not canceled. and that is basically a kind of pitch to the base by saying the power that you have had both as largely white, conservative, rural voters but also as kind of people in this country that have determined what is popular or not popular is slipping away, and that is something to be very motivated by politically. that's a party that has basically made that calculation over caring about policy. >> i was having a conversation just moments ago with someone, and we were talking about this voter suppression effort, senator, and wondering if it's too late. you have, what, 253, you know, bills trying to be passed, you know, on the table or at the ver

seuss and mr. potato head. it's crazy what's happening now and we just have to refocus. i needed a little emphasis there to help with the penetration. >> you were talking about the american worker. in your mind how much better off is the american worker this morning than yesterday morning before president biden signed the relief bill? >> well, i think you could hear a collective sigh of relief and i thought joe biden did a magnificent job last night of really being the adult in the room, setting the course for the country, being calm, saying we have to come together. and these people will be better off, our citizens will be better off. they have unemployment extended until september. that's a big sigh of relief that they're going to be able to make ends meet until then and then the president is talking about, you know, june/july, things starting to open back up so people can go back to work, they can get a job. i think they feel a lot better. it sounds like these $1,400 checks will start getting out the door here real quick. so people are going to feel immediate relief,

seuss, mr. potato head and neanderthal thinking, now we have tucker carlson single handedly managing to turn the military against him. really? this is how you appeal to the gop base, by infuriating our military with slurs against women in uniform? okay. i hope everybody is sitting. turn up the volume because you've got to hear it to believe it. roll it. >> so, we've got new hair styles and maternity flight suits. pregnant women are going to fight our wars. it's a mockery of the u.s. military. china's military becomes more masculine, as it's assembled the world's largest navy, our navy needs to become more feminine, whatever feminine means anymore since men and women no longer exist. the bottom line is it's out of control and the pentagon is out of control. this is a mockery of the military and its core mission, which is winning wars. >> told you. a mock -- a mockery. a mockery. pregnant woman in uniform a mockery. how do you think he got here? let me tell you what's a mockery, a host -- and i'll

seuss. john avlon here with a "reality check." >> because a week is a long time in politics, i want to take you back to trump's second impeachment trial where the ex-president's lawyers argue d congress should be focusing on more important things. >> we will not take most of our time today in the hopes that you will take back these hours and use them to get covid relief to the american people. >> i've got good news for them. the senate did just pass a massive covid relief bill and it got precisely no republican votes. now that's despite broad bipartisan support and this is a big bill beyond its $1.9 trillion price tag. biden's american rescue plan could cut poverty by a third and childhood poverty by nearly 60% according to columbia university. that could change people's lives, especially after decades in which income inequality has gotten worse. the bill contains not just $1400 checks and stimulus for americans making less than $75,000. it expands child tax credits, boosts small businesses.

seuss and the distraction tactics, it points to something important we've seen in this debate over the bill, is that republicans have not been able to get a foothold in making sort of the substantiative argument against this bill. partially because they voted for so many of these kinds of components in previous covid relief bills last year. so there are arguments that now, all of a sudden, while people are still in need, that this is somehow an unthinkable thing to vote for doesn't seem to be holding water with the american public. >> i just want to pivot for a second to what donald trump is up to. and this is important, because donald trump successfully used mail-in voting yesterday. >> that's impossible! he's so against it! >> you know, it's rife with election fraud, you know, voting fraud, as he would claim, david. let me remind you of what, in fact, he said in august about this. >> there is no way you can go through a mail-in vote without massive cheating. >> unless you're me, but he didn't say that part. there was a local election in florida. he resides at mar-a-lago now in florid

seuss and start working with us on behalf of the american workers. >> make no mistake this legislation is transformative and temporary. and it is geared towards low-income americans. the expanded tax cut credit, to readd rate income equality and cut child poverty in half. a single mother with one child could see $1500 when you add the tax credit. and put it all together and the tax policy center says a low income household with children would see an average tax cut of nearly $7700 raising their after tax income after 35%. 35% raise for working families. there's money for housing aid. incentives for paid sick leave. increase in food stamps through september. money for vaccine programs, and schools. and jobless benefits that lasts through the fall. and the first $200 of that tax free. and agriculture, disadvantaged farmers, a quarter of whom are black, with expanded plans for health care under the affordable care act. the bill makes insurance more affordable, full little be president biden's key promising. >>> breaking overnight, public school etchers in los angeles striking a deal to re

seuss, mr. potatohead. and i think the newest one is pepe le pew, the skunk. it's been a very good week for children's books, toys, and cartoons while they distract us from this major thing going on all over the country. >> i made that point earlier. i think it's a strategy to get people to focus on what one hand is doing, while they're doing a sleight of hand with the other. and matt, your new book is talking about cancel culture trolls. >> i think that's part of it. this $1.9 trillion covid stimulus bill, i think some of that money was probably well needed. but, man, $1.9 trillion is a lot of money. the conservative movement, there was a time when i think they would have seen this massive growth in government and spending as problematic. and they might have not only voted against it, but presented a coherent argument against it. it used to be that one-third of the conservative movement consisted of fiscal conservatives. you hardly heard anything about this spending. basically, they were m.i.a., don. and i think they're much more focused on fighting this cult

potato head, doctor seuss doubling down on the racism again today. we just talked about ron johnson, remember this? >> ron johnson defending the rioters who attacked the capitol. >> i knew those were people that love this country and truly respect law enforcement and would never do anything to break the law so i was not concerned. had the table in turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i may have been a little concerned. >> this gets me in trouble. had it been black life protests. >> the answer is black life matters. come on brother, being stupid? we heard you. you heard him. he said he was not concerned of the trump supporters rioted at the capitol. he would have been terrified, he would have been afraid had they been black lives matter or antifa. afraid black lives matter and antifa. by the way, black lives matter and antifa did not riot. you heard him, he knows that would get him in trouble, he knows that would get him in trouble but he says it again. because he wan

seuss on twitter and complaining that, you know, he was a victim of cancel culture. it basically to me underscores the extent to which the arguments of big government have lost a lot of their sting, particularly against the backdrop of this, you know, pandemic and all of the economic and social strain that it has created. >> ron brownstein talking to me earlier. >>> england is one step closer to getting back to pre-pandemic norm malts. school is now back in session. it's the first of several stages as officials gradually ease restrictions. prime minister boris johnson attributes the, quote, determination of every person in this country for the progress. >> the 8th of march is the first big step of the roadmap that we hope is a roadmap to freedom and it's made possible by the rollout of the vaccination program. >> and officials say they will be keeping an eye on the level of covid cases as they roll out each state of that roadmap. >>> still to come here on cnn, the duke and duchess of sussex open up to oprah winfrey about their troubled relationship with brittain's ro

seuss" or "mr. potato's head." >> you are right, republicans want to focus the border. it is notable that biden has still not visited the border. what do you think about that? >> they are putting in place a lot of policies trying to augment their anability to hand these. he does not want to light the fuse of going there personally. i think before he puts forward these economic proposals that he ran on and that was at the corner stone of his promise to the public. he said a big part of what he's trying to do was to lower the temperature in washington but also rebuild the middle class. it is going to be striking. this big plan he's putting on this week on building roads and bridges, all the green initiatives is only half of what's coming. there is a whole other half that's coming and kind of human capitol as opposed to infrastructure capitol and having to do with universal pre-k and free community college and expanded child care. this has the potential in scale to be transformative with the obamas. they'll need republicans online for this. >> 30 seconds. how would you des

seuss so they're struggling to attack this bill. obviously liz cheney is talking about how will they pay for it? it is a $2 trillion bill. these were not asked back when the past two packages were passed through the congress and so, you know, republican, they're grappling and trying to change the subject but this is vastly popular and because of that it's problematic for them in terms how they talk about it on the campaign trail. >> just to that point, katherine lucey, this is jim justice, republican governor of west virginia. he says my state is still hurting. yes. >> at the end of the day i still believe that we need to go big or not go at all, you know, because we still got too many people that are out there across especially west virginia that are hurting. >> and that's the test that matters. no offense to governor justice, not so much a republican governor but to the people who vote for governor justice and vote for republican governors out there do they think the new president, you know what, is helping me. >> that's right. th

seuss and everything else, and they're not -- we don't hear them arguing about the debt the way they used to, like john kasich is talking about, quite frankly. >> go ahead, make your final point, governor. >> i just want to say we are in a culture now of "i" and we are not in a culture of "we." it's affecting politics. it's affecting everything in our country today. all we do, most of us today, we've lost the moral underpinning that says we should live in a country where we care about we and not just about i. in politics what's good for me? how do i get re-elected, how do i have power? this is something i'm going to be talking about all the time. that is, we need to get back to a we culture where we work together and not cancel other people who don't think like us and work together to solve the problems that people have. >> that would be nice and productive. let's see if that's possible. governor, thank you very much. gloria, thanks to you as well. >>> how much damage has been done to the british family from the eye-popping interview with prince harry and meghan markle? we're going l

more people will remember seuss than the covid plan. >> it is a great example of what i was making reference to. as to the economic argument, you heard because you rolled some of the sound there in your lead in. the argument you make is so much of this, in fact "the wall street journal" editorial board says that $825 billion of the stimulus is not related to covid at all. that is a part of what they are saying. it is a progressive grab bag. >> right. there are real questions. time will tell. as to sending out the biggest checks at this point in the crisis, that is not what you would expect. that is what is happening. let me ask you about one other thing. this is pertaining to the former president who passed two of these, right. election records show he has requested a mail-in ballot for a local election. trump, we all know how he feels about mail-in ballots. he said it would result in the greatest fraud and him really losing but he wouldn't lose and all of that business. he voted by mail before. here he is again, the irony. >> the interesting part about this, i think the palm beach rules spe

seuss. and by the way, facts first. it was his estate that decided not to publish more of certain books. no one else made that happen. rescue mr. poto head, they say. res cue the royals from any reckoning of racism, because you know, there's something about that meghan markle that seems, oh, i don't know, dark. yeah. you mean like her skin? is she forgetting her place? is that why you're so upset about it? everything they say about markle is code for dividing us by color. remember this day. this was the chance to make up for the pandemic denial that they enabled. instead, they decided to double down, period. the house chaplain today made a plea to the lord for mercy on those who turn their backs in a national emergency. >> we pray your mercy. forgive them, all of them, for when called upon to respond to a once in a century pandemic that has rocked our country, they have missed the opportunity to step above the fray and unite, the servants you have called to lead this country have contributed to the spread of an even mor

seuss and mr. potato head because one hand is doing one thing and the other hand is doing the thing that is going to get them guaranteed they are going to get elected and that is going to hurt, really, black and brown voters. but they don't care because that's what's going to get them elected. >> at the same time they're coaxing people along with this momentum of people out to get you, they're out to destroy -- >> white grievance, that's what it is. >> i have to tell you, this is really frightening things. this is more important to me -- look, obviously we're in the middle of a pandemic. obviously you need relief. this is generational. this is right up there with the judges. if these laws pass and you don't have hr-1 which means you get to decide it state by state, you have systematic disenfranchisement all over. >> all over the country. >> by the way, what i want to keep fighting more and more, i don't like to fight too soon because it's like you kind of blow -- >> you like to fight. >> i like to

seuss for week after week is because they don't have a popular position on the economic stimulus package. what we're seeing is that republican voters are supporting the plan passed by the democratic congress, and now republican members of congress are trying to claim credit for it after having voted against it. so joe biden right now has much higher approval ratings than donald trump ever had. and so the only way that republicans can try to hit back and try to divide the country and try to win votes is by claiming that joe biden is somehow part of this cabal which is going to cancel american culture. and all you have to do is take one look at joe biden of scranton, pennsylvania, to realize how absurd that charge actually is. >> i think it's fascinating how he just ignores them, and it drives them crazy. i mean he does live rent-free in their heads. he just ignores them, and they keep trashing him, and he just keeps going. it's funny to watch. >> yeah. he's just doing the people's business, and it's driving republicans crazy. they can't figure out how to lay a glove on him basically. >> l

seuss brand shelving some books i had never even heard of. and then some people started hording other sus books totally unrelated. and the story lines that fox selects matter because the gop follows murdoch's lead. that's why this is important. that's why kevin mccarthy was reading "green eggs and ham" while democrats were passing a stimulus bill. d.c. is reacting to tv. i wonder, diana, how you view this as a former fox news employee. was it like this four years ago when you were at fox? >> i will tell you that, as a journalist covering it, that what was going on during the trump administration, staffers were asking, are they working for state tv or are they working for propaganda network? there was always something to be out ranged out. and i think the blue print was one of sensationalism and click bait. we knew how to play upon the vulnerabilities and the fears of his audience. and what we're seeing now is that staffers are telling me that they are digging in further right. they are digging in further into sensationalism and they are reall