we are delighted to have with us the author of the book jillian york joined in conversation by band tardis as an international activism director at the electronic frontier foundation also a founding member of the deep lab. covering questions of surveillance and freedom sincerely to thousands named by foreign policy is one of the top 100 intellectuals on social media and has been writing for the guardian and al jazeera. joining her today is then who is no stranger to city life. we posted him on numerous occasions for several of his very important books. most importantly, recently voices from the valley. published by fsg originals also the author of the book of the counterfeiters paradise and cofounder of logic magazine. his writing has appeared in the guardian, new republic as well as other publications and makes his home in cambridge massachusetts. so really it is an honor and a delight to have you both here today. welcome to city lights lives. >> thank you for having me. >> i have a handful of questions to guide our discussion but i thank you are hoping to do a brief reading first. >> yes