okay, we're going to hit the road and do the same thing we have always done and then the video hit mtv and that's when everything changed. and i remember, like, me and kurt used to share a room, sitting there waiting for the video to come on television and just to see our faces on mtv, on television, that was enough. we were, like, oh, my god, we arrived, we made it. but we had no idea what was going to happen next and things happened really, really quickly. >> that's amazing. the idea -- the imagery of you sitting in a room, watching your own videos with kurt cobain. you say you ywrote the chapter about kurt cobain last. that must have been hard. >> yeah, i was scared to write it. the book is -- it is written in short story format. so they're, like, little glimpses of different times in my life. and i knew that that was a really important part of the story. but i was -- i also sort of knew what people might expect me to write or what they wanted me to write. and rather than write something that was, like, you know, logistical or practical, i wanted to write more about loss. and mourni