which is decrease costs or cover enough people. >> but isn't this manufactured, mr. pappas? you're supplying information to these people, of what to say when they go to these town hall meetings. you're handing them -- here, go say this. is that not happening? >> we do that every single recess. >> okay. >> so there's a big difference -- what we're hearing from our members this recess is wow, we can't believe how many other people are turning up and supporting our side. it's never like that. our same guys are going, finding a lot more backing. it can be called manufactured all you want. but eventually the polls are winning out. and you see the floor fr this is going down every day. >> we did have a poll back in november and the president's been very clear about what he wants. the point i'm trying to make here and clarify, is that you are coaching, you are instructing americans who aren't quite sure about what health care reform is going to be like in this country, to go out and purposely disrupt these meetings? >> no, that's not accurate at all. we do the same thing every rece

i just don't understand for one thing, mr. pappas. how come there is no flexibility between the parties when i have -- my wife and i have two insurance companies, employer insurance companies and we are consumed almost virtually 20% of our gross income, we are not talking about shared costs. or pharmaceutical or anything catastrophic that would happen to us. we are still going to be placed into bankruptcy. why isn't there some sort of consideration? why can't the two chambers of the house come to some sort of compromise to where we are put in a sunset or triggering mechanism to where we could try this new system of universal healthcare coverage? i don't want to use socialism because it is such a key word, a buzzword for a lot of medicaid and medicare people. they think that they are not part of the socialist medicine group. guest: what george just shared with us, i think, is very important and it reminds me of my parents' own situation. my parents live in massachusetts where they have a model of what is being considered in congress an

host: mr. pappas. guest: it is. almost every other business does that. what wouldn't happen is if the wig industry in minnesota has managed to get its business part of the mandate list for health insurance doesn't mean that you are going to have to pay for insurance that covers wigs in iowa. so the list of mandates you pay for will be different. host: newton, mississippi, now, robert on the independent line. you are on with max pappas. caller: i want to know one thing. why should people be treated like a business? i listen to you the conservative groups, all your people have done is get together, e-mail a lot of people, told them to go out, say these things, disrupt these meetings and you say this is not racist? it is against one person, president obama. it is against everything he is trying to do. you loud mouths like rush limbaugh, sean hannity, all these other folks that you listen to daily, even my good friend joe scarborough, it is ridiculous. all you are trying to do is disrupt something a needs to be done for all people. not just your people and t

a spokesman says mr. ehrlich is fine with waiting to make his decision. delegate patrick mcdonough is announcing a run and mike pappas says he'll be in the game. >>> let's take a live look outside. even though the temperatures might not have been the hottest this summer, it sure felt like it outside. norm is standing by with a first look at the forecast. >> it is in fact a very sticky evening outside. take a look at maryland's most powerful radar. right now we're not pick up any precipitation across the region. nice clear scan out there. but as we go through the next couple days, scattered showers because of heat and humidity will continue to start making their way in our direction. here is your forecast for the next couple of hours. partly cloudy, warm, and humid. our temperatures will be in the upper 80s for the next couple of hours. and we got a few chances for showers tomorrow. but the best chance will be coming on wednesday, thursday, and friday. we'll tell you all about it, coming up, as well as tracking the band new hurricane. >> thanks, norm. >>>