yasha monk, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> back now with our medical team. sanjay, those are stark choices. any doctor makes. you know, we think about that happening on the battlefield. the idea they've now put out guidelines in italy, whether it's happening today or it's going to happen next week. or thankfully, let's hope it doesn't happen at all. but i don't think a lot of people here are used to situations where it's the doctor's call of, you know what, we just don't have time -- we just can't devote resources to saving your grandfather because there's somebody else who has a better chance of survival. >> we know we could potentially save your grandfather if we had the resources but we don't. that's the thing. doctors make triage decisions all the time but it's usually based on the fact they don't think someone would survive the treatment. these are people who would survive, if only we had enough resources. you know me a long time. i'm not the kind of guy that screams from the roof.

natalie azar, joseph faris, also with us, yasha mung, who is a professor. marcia santini is a registered nurse in los angeles. let me ask our panelists here. is there a lesson in what you heard for people who are wondering could it be me? >> yeah. i think that what we've been saying for the last few weeks is that 80% of people will have a mild to moderate illness that can resemble a bad cold or flu, exactly what happened. i think it points to the fact that when we give percentages and we tell people what the symptoms are and say, fever can be cough, shortness of breath, achiness, not 100% of people have 100% of the symptoms. you have to have a high index of suspicion. early on it required a travel history. now it's more difficult as it's more spread. >> professor munk, one of our audience members asked, joe biden got to it a bit, asking quite simply, are our hospitals ready with beds, staff and equipment for this pandemic, especially in heavily populated areas, areas like where elizabeth lives where she fortunately was near a research study, couldn't go to

for more on this we're joined from the world health organization headquarters in geneva by tarik yasha revich thank you for joining us tarik spokesperson for the w.h.o. for weeks you've declined to use the word pandemic you are now saying pandemic now what's changed well 1st we should really try to explain what it what are the categories that you're using at a world health organization on january 30th or has the cleric public how to merge so if it's a national concern and this is the highest level of a large and this is the category and under international tribulations and not what we have seen in previous weeks or more countries are reporting laboratory confirmed cases i've covered 19 and we can see the trends that even more countries will likely be reporting and more people will be exposed to dividers and therefore director general i described a situation expand that mean however our devices did not change at any noir w.h.o. doing not what countries should be doing and that is basically still try to contain the virus try to find people who are sick or at best them treat them you know