now we go to michelle alexandra with the new jim crow slavery and jim crow and then mass incarceration. so what is the parallel or do you see a parallel with voter suppression? and what is going on there with the same kind of objective of the right wing that black and brown people are not a part of this democracy. >> florida is the best place to unpack this. prior to amendment number four the ballot initiative in 2018 to get rid of permanent felony disenfranchisement in florida. before that happened in the united states there was over 6 million people disenfranchised and could not vote because of a felony conviction. one.7million were in florida alone. 40 percent of black men in florida could not vote because of a felony conviction. over 20 percent of african-americans of on - - in general cannot vote in florida because of a felony conviction. florida would count their head for the census in order to get representation in congress but these are folks who could not vote so go back to the three fifths clause this is what they are operating under in the 21st century. florida implemented a

there has been a lot of discussion recently about jim crow laws. who was jim crow? >> thanks. what is the origin of the name jim crow applying to those laws? >> i don't know that i would claim to have the best understanding. it's a nickname that was given but i don't remember all the origins of this nickname for segregation. for what used to be called earlier in the 19th century as black laws. the term jim crow was coined at some point and it's stuck. >> next is bob watching us from houston. hi bob. bob you are on the air. >> i'm. josh >> josh is in iowa. welcome service sir. >> hi guys. i have two questions. when plessy was decided, was there any national outcry denouncing the decision? secondly, where their laws passed nationally after the plessy this isn't with handed down? >> there was almost no immediate reaction to the place he case. there was very little reaction. i know there was some newspapers in the north that commented on it in brooklyn and chicago. they did not have a lot to say about it. there was no national outcry. if you told someone that we would be sitting h

i never thought about that of the comparisons of jim crow and like oh and the degradation that plays on the community in those things but that's a brilliant brilliant you know comparison you know what are black students getting saddled with you know in terms of numbers and things like how is this hurting them a few things so 1st and foremost black students typically borrow more to attend college than white students do a lot of that is because of single parent households because their parents typically are of lower means and don't have generational wealth but also because they are they're going to college is in many cases that are outside of the range so you have students that are borrowing up to 30 percent more than their white counterparts would be borrowing just to go to college and we're watching that you know with the interest rate over time build up an open up where when they graduate you know they get that sticker shock of now you have to pay these student loans back and unlike many of their white counterparts they are getting help from their parents many of them didn't qualify

crow because jim crow was that era's one of that era's most significant ways of of sort of producing systemic racism and all of its effects but he didn't stop with that with the end of jim crow because that wasn't the end of racism one of the ways that we often miss remember civil rights leaders is that they exacted this fantastic victory and racism is over right but it's not and so his consistent you know hard you know courage disciplined participation protest and legislative you know challenges all together really remind us that sometimes the the nature of the beast changes its stripes but it's still a beast and so it's not just fighting for one victory but it's fighting for an entire set of changes that that sometimes look like they're not going on at the same time. says that the fight is ongoing until now it's very famously said you never become but i say you never become hostile but how hard do you think it was for him not to be able to see an end to the struggle. so if you think about it so john lewis spoke at the march on washington and the speech he was originally to deliver

i do want to comment on part of your opening statement, when you were saying that, after the jim crow. macca, that our justice system was equal. i don't believe -- >> i said the law. >> they are certainly not applied equally. we do have stomach problems in our law enforcement system, our criminal justice system, on every level. the fact of the matter is 2.3 million people in the united states are incarcerated. we incarcerate 24% of the world's prisoners. 34% are black, while african-americans are just 13% of the u.s. population. justice is still not equal, nor are our laws. i think when we look at how many people are incarcerated, or how many people are killed, it is not the numbers, it is the percentage to the percentage of that group in the u.s. population. i yield back my time. >> the gentle lady yields back. mr. gaetz? >> you've described the prosecution of roger stone's righteous. that is clearly something the president and i disagree with you on. i would suggest that perhaps the prosecution of andrew mccabe, who lied four times, thrice under the penalty of perjury, would be more

i wish jim crow could have been a building. i wish it could have been tangible, i could have destroyed it. but jim crow only codified existing mental views, existing biases and it was allowed to perpetuate based on a system of justice who emboldened those who refused to acknowledge its absurdity. now you have the attorney general who is saying in some respects, i know your concerns by talking to two black people. one a black professional he is unnamed and senator tim scott. i guess your concerns are legitimate about there being some ambivalence, i think he said, and distrust. but on the other hand he dismists of it and says you're over-simplifying it. i would love to know at what point in time anyone thought that racism was simple. if it had been, i guess it would have been the edifice of jim crow and could have been dealt with a long time ago. >> and i just want to let our viewers know, you see the attorney general sitting down. the chairman of the house judiciary committee is not back yet, so we are going to keep an eye on th

the democratic force who staged sit-ins in the jim crow south, sitting back down on the floor of the house demanding gun reform. >> not next year, but now! today! >> reporter: and he wasn't afraid to stand up to a president, skipping president trump's inauguration and first state of the union. today, president trump offered condolences, ordering flags to be lowered. tweeting he was saddened to hear the news of civil rights hero john lewis passing. but republican senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said, you did not need to agree with john on many policy details to be awed by his life. in troubling times, lewis always found a bright spot. one of john lewis' last public appearances, standing here in washington, d.c., boldly facing the white house. the words "black lives matter" painted at his feet. >> i do believe that as the sun set on john lewis' life last night, the sun rises on a movement that will never die. thank you, john. rest in peace, my brother. >> all right, rachel scott joins us now from black lives matter plaza in washington, d.c. and rachel, john lewis called this tim

crow democrats i'm sorry that's just not true. ok ok ok that that's not me and i'm i'm being facetious and i'm put opening pushing the overton window of course i don't want to see the democratic party cancelled i mean i also just really like to clarify the democratic party it's not the left or so. you know this is that this is kind of a really weird experience because we kind of are going like this because we actually agree on a lot of things ok except for this whole known and i think you know this really interesting because coffee really is being pushed to divide us because i'm basically a conservative the bullies more in the category of class because they would have a whole lot more. but that's for being to talk about that because that would talk about real systemic change instead of all this other nonsense they make everyone can chase their tail over as they as half the country is basically poor and with very little prospects but i mean what we're obviously right you're talking about here a t. test right now when we have a game

but if you think about why would emmett not be able to take quite seriously jim crow segregation, not take seriously the prerogatives they thought they had, that he had insulted his wife. of course in the trial carolyn bryant does not just say emmett whistled at her, she says that he grabbed her, that he made threatening gestures and words, that this was an attempt borderline easily interpreted as an attempted rape, so she claimed. all right, so till comes from argot, not from chicago. it's only the last couple of years of his life he lived in chicago and every other week he was back in argot. it's where his friends were. that's an important detail. there were only two killers. well, there are only two who stood trial. we know now. we don't know exactly what others did. but we do know there were several other members especially of the family or friends of the f family who were involved. the beating and killing of emmett till took place on the plantation. several other members of the family are involved. and also seen in the back of the truck as they were driving emmett till to his fat

but if you think about it, why would he not be able to partake seriously in jim crow segregation, which did not take seriously the prerogatives that men like -- thought they had that he had insulted his wife. trial, she dide not just say that he whistle that her, she says that he grabbed her. that he made threatening gestures and words, that this was an attempt, borderline easily interpreted as an attempt at rate, -- rape, so she claims. he comes from argo, not chicago. every weekend he was back in argo. that's an important detail. there were only two killers. well, only two who stood trial. we don't know exactly what do know thatut we there were several other members especially of the family or friends of the family who were involved in the beating and thatng on the plantation was run by the sun. several other members of the family involved, and also seen in the back of the truck as they were driving him to his death. it's unclear, two or three african-americans men who, as it jw, veryt, worked for much under his sway. moree story gets more and complicated. there is an article about th

and of course as historically the case slave holding capitalism for over 200 years jim crow capitalism former 90 years and the jim crow jr had to do with what not just devastating industrial working class as a do the escalation of mass incarceration only to to cripple the educational system only to indecent owing to communities and families. out there racism is. terrifying it's core to the problem so is the sexism which we don't talk about enough they are essentially promising to her store hierarchy in which people know their place which men get their place this is what we refer to as patriarchy this is a society that runs around the sort of structure of a family where the man is the head of the family except the man is the head of society jam to get d.'s white supremacy forces capitalist forces patriarchal forces almost checkmate. precious brothers and sisters. these were not accidental bits and pieces in different places it all fit together in a very old fashioned way. it's all really about taking us back. to essentially a pre democratic period. it was all really about a battle that

that's where jim crow came from. of course jim crow comes to stand for segregation, and the answer is that in most of the united states at some point there are some elements of segregation so that some places it's done by law, some places it's done by custom. i, for instance, was once doing research on the history of civil rights in detroit and i came across a manual published by the real estate institute. it wasn't merely black and white. there was a whole section on where you send jews so they won't live in neighborhoods where white christians don't want them. then there were discussions about how if you have a black client you need to steer them to the right neighborhood where they belong. and so this was not legal and it was not a statute, it was simply an institution created by an entire profession. you had that across the board. on the other hand, we were talking before about the first school desegregation takes place in iowa in 1868 when an african-american man in muskatine, iowa, named alexander clark sues th

in the heart of the jim crow south the parents who picked somebody else's cotton, apparently he did not take to farm work and on days when he was supposed to help his brothers and sisters with their labor he would hide under the porch and make a break for the school bus when it showed up. his mother, willa mae lewis, nurtured that curiosity in this shy, serious child and once you learn something, she told her son, once you get something inside your head, no one can take it away from you. as a boy, john listened to the door after bedtime and listening to his friends complain about the clan. one sunday he heard doctor king preached on the radio and as a college student in tennessee he signed up for the workshops on the tactics of nonviolent civil disobedience. john lewis was getting something inside his head, an idea he cannot shake, that nonviolence and civil disobedience were the means to change laws but also change hearts and change minds and change nations. and change the world. you have to organize the national campaign of 1960. he, and other young men women, sat at a segregated lunc

crow crow roona virus and horrific implications obviously for when a black lives matter and you use the phrase voting while black but because joe biden is running i in the polls right now and i got to ask you how is trump already one in 2020 and why is trump against postal ballots if postal ballot reading arguably is what's going to put him in the white house in november a couple things. one hillary clinton was ahead of trump in the polls which means nothing at this time in 2016 so you've got the same margin so hillary was crushing agent orange our commander in chief who's president because they didn't count on the democrats the most by the white democrats just don't think about the steel and they don't do anything about steel they do very little it's you know there's only civil rights voting rights groups black african american or his asian that actually fight for their vote but it's not the democratic party so hillary was ahead just like by the head again who's president now you get the mail in voting this is very important to have in how trump stole 2020 and again it's past tense

[laughter] in the heart of the jim crow south, to parents who picked somebody else's cotton. apparently, he didn't take to farm work. on days when he was supposed to help his brothers and sisters with their labor, he'd hide under the porch and make a break for the school bus when it showed up. his mother, willie may lewis, nurtured that curiosity in this shy, serious child. once you learn something, she told her son, once you get something inside your head, no one can take it away from you. as a boy, john listened through the door after bedtime. his father's friends complained about the klan. one sunday, as a teenager, he heard dr. king preach on the radio. as a college student in tennessee, he signed up for workshops on the tactics of nonviolence and civil disobedience. john lewis was getting something inside his head. an idea he couldn't shake. took hold of him. that nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience were the means to change laws but also train charge, and change minds, and change nations, and change the world. he helped organize the nashville campaign in 1960. h

jim crow relic. and i'm looking at this and i'm listening to this, and i'm saying and you talk about the expanding civil rights act in honor of johnat lewis. but the problem is, his vice president now presidential candidate for the democrats actually preys on guys that filibustered that historic legislation. >> sean, i might explode before the segment is over, but let me make a public service announcement msnbc quick velvet may have not received a penny, a dime from anyone and i'm running for trump because he's the best candidate to win the high office in this land! now, back to obama, step aside al sharpton. because you've got a competitor and barack obama using a house of worship, using a funeral to raise a democratic campaign speech. what amazes me is he basically lied on television when he said that federal truth was used for peaceful protesters. there's not a peaceful protester that is trying to demolish a federal building. he tried to make an analogy that donald trump is george wallace. mr. oba

he saw the injustice of jim crow as a young boy. when he was 15 he discovered a man who became his personal mentor. he by the comic book entitled mlk in the story of montgomery. fourteen pages long and cost him a dime. that had the greatest return onis investment of any purchase in the history of our nation. a little over ten years ago joining the faith and politics pilgrimage making a trip to alabama. john led these saw the monument and we went to the church where the little chills were killed in birmingham but w fortunately i had to leave before he visited selma that was noon on sunday. i always wanted to be on the bridge and to hear the story in your own words. he said you've got to come will make a special trip. meet you in the library on - - library. will take you on the tour. >> he is the one that told me personally but for that march to go forward it might not have happened. it was an inspirational visit for me to be there in the early sunday morning hours landing on the bridge right lenext to john there was. he pointed down

crow laws are determined by goldman sachs and j.p. morgan by selectively making interest rate borrowing costs different into different parts of town if you live in the ghetto then jamie dimon will say your cost of borrowing will be much higher so he's engaging in interest rate apartheid again you know you have the system whereby the system itself is corrupt and biased ok it has like the oligarchs are of the banking system are favored and their friends are favored over the other people outside the ring the same you have with free speech like we the public domain now is facebook and twitter and yet they're private companies so they could cut you off and censor you as they're doing to the president now. and so this censorship resistant sort of thing is starting to play out in the bitcoin domain because you know the self sovereignty from a nation has always been gold you accumulate gold and then what happened in the past year or 2 when venezuela wanted their gold from the bank of england note we're going to censor that you don't get it ba

crow to what i call dr james crow database analyst we use very sophisticated means like saying that 92 year old this is jordan had moved ursa quanah taylor removed or someone was a felon when they weren't we use these tricks to remove black voters in and the russians didn't do that the russians didn't tell hillary clinton don't campaign in wisconsin because you're going to lose the presidency because they're stealing the vote there so you know i would love to say some other country did this to us it didn't happen that way and less americans wake up to the fact that we have poisoned our own elections with race. i'm biased we're never going to save our democracy and that's what i'm concerned that's why i wrote how term stole 2020 because there are things americans can do to change the system to protect their vote and believe me there are a lot of people who are waking up to this finally just as they're waking up to other forms of racism in america which we like to keep hidden but unless we confront it we're going to keep having elected presidents greg palast we'll definitely have you