let's bring pamela brownback in. pam, that is an incredibly significant development that the intelligence community's inspector general took a criminal referral to the justice department on this with questions about whether this was a violation of campaign finance laws. >> a huge development coming from our evan perez to look into this. i mean this is very significant and now we're gaining some insight into why that referral happened, even though we don't have the whistle-blower complaint in full we do have what we know is a part of the complaint. that is this transcript between president trump and the ukrainian president zelensky where he mentioned on several occasions that he would have his own attorney general and his personal attorney, rudy guilliani, work with the ukrainians on two u.s.-related matters, one involving his political rival, the democratic presidential candidate joe biden, and his son hunter and also looking into election interference. it is also significant that even before the president brought th