and the sort of vision of the tax structure that sam brownback had, koch was very involved in that. i think their influence on kansas politic is is tremendous. it's huge. >> i have kind of a political question. >> you're at the right place. >> right, that's for sure. the feud between trump and koch, do you feel like that will perhaps cause a schism or a civil war between, say, the economic nationalists, the religious right and the koch libertarian philosophy, that will cause a three-way brawl or whatever within the right wing of the republican party? is that something that could go beyond the coaches and trump and get into the bowels of the republican party? >> yes. and the way i describe it is that right now, a lot of my political chaptered in become happened literally in basement. i staff offices of the hart senate office building, the longworth house building where the machinery works, there'sfight going on down there for control of the steering wheel of the republican party. and it is a tense, constant back and forth. koch wins when certain federal judges are appointed and mitch

he came to support alternative energy sources with the growing industry but of course with senator brownback and then that tax structure that was very involved in that. >>. >> between trump and koch do you feel that would be a schism or a civil war or the religious right will cause a three-way brawl of the republican party? then into the bowels of the republican party. >> so those political chapters office it one - - opposite of the office building and then for control of the republican party steering wheel. it is the intense back and forth. koch wins when certain federal judges are appointed and mitch mcconnell is making sure he is happen 191 - - that is happening. that he imposes massive tariffs. and then the global energy system in global trade. >> and donald trump had a tremendous support of the republican party as you have seen many times and what it is interesting and then with those policies and if donald trump wins that he may redraw the republican party for generation generations. >> i have so many questions. so what i want to ask you about his treatment of his own workers and he di

washington lobbyists, to help take apart the growing industry in kansas, and of course the backing for sam brownback and this sort of vision of the structure was very involved in that. i think that there is a the influence on kansas politics is tremendous. it's huge. i have kind of a political question. >> you are at the right place. >> that's for sure. >> the views between trump and koch, do you feel like that would perhaps cause a schism or even a civil war between say the economic nationalists were the religious rights and koch righth libertarian philosophy that that would cause a three-way scroll or whatever within the right-wing of the republican party? is that' that something that coo beyond and get into the bowels of the republican party? >> yes. and the way that i describe it is right now a lot of the political chapters in this book but notably in basements. the staff offices of the senate building and where the machinery works there is a fight going on down there for the control of the steering wheel of the republican party. and it is a tense and constant back and forth. they wia win-win ce