1 00:00:07,62 --> 00:00:11,77 Good evening and welcome to the January twenty first two thousand and fifteen town 2 00:00:11,78 --> 00:00:16,04 board meeting I'll officially call the meeting to order and I'll ask that you 3 00:00:16,05 --> 00:00:22,75 please rise for the pledge. Of. Allegiance to the 4 00:00:23,73 --> 00:00:30,37 you know States of America and Europe all that really stands one nation I know this 5 00:00:30,38 --> 00:00:30,50 is 6 00:00:31,04 --> 00:00:37,59 a very just. Thank you. All I ask our clerk to please call the roll 7 00:00:38,28 --> 00:00:44,66 call. Here that's like here more here click here OK thank you 8 00:00:45,24 --> 00:00:52,18 we have two public hearing this evening and I'll ask our clerk to please read 9 00:00:52,42 --> 00:00:58,76 the first item to consider the establishment of the Ashton Rice subdivision special 10 00:00:59,04 --> 00:01:03,91 movement district legal notice was published in the Penfield post on January eighth 11 00:01:03,92 --> 00:01:09,65 two thousand and fifteen and posted on the town website and the town bulletin board 12 00:01:10,15 --> 00:01:15,03 eighty two post cards were mailed and three homeowners associations were notified 13 00:01:15,76 --> 00:01:20,59 OK Thank you Mr Horowitz is this properly before the border city right I'd like to 14 00:01:20,76 --> 00:01:25,76 recognize our Director of Development Developmental Services Jim Costello to give 15 00:01:25,77 --> 00:01:32,71 us an overview of this matter to. Order and this is stacked up this is kind 16 00:01:32,72 --> 00:01:36,76 of an unusual circumstance for us generally when districts are formed they're 17 00:01:36,77 --> 00:01:42,30 formed prior to any development taking place and within the subdivision this is an 18 00:01:42,31 --> 00:01:46,55 unusual circumstance of the town board recognizing that because of the right reason 19 00:01:46,56 --> 00:01:52,04 and as for regulations stormwater regulations in the situation where each new 20 00:01:52,05 --> 00:01:56,43 development has to have its own pond for storm water quality and quantity purposes 21 00:01:57,43 --> 00:02:01,23 the town was in the process of determining how the best way to handle this was 22 00:02:01,24 --> 00:02:06,18 occurring at the time that the national right subdivision was approved in 23 00:02:06,25 --> 00:02:08,65 ultimately under construction so as 24 00:02:08,66 --> 00:02:12,17 a result construction was occurring as we were making our decisions regarding the 25 00:02:12,18 --> 00:02:16,76 creation of special improvement districts which the board did do by that time we 26 00:02:16,77 --> 00:02:20,53 realized that we now had to go back to the property owners who actually had been 27 00:02:20,54 --> 00:02:23,60 building and living within the subdivision to make them aware of the fact that 28 00:02:23,61 --> 00:02:27,61 there was this issue explain that to them and then let them know what the 29 00:02:27,62 --> 00:02:32,81 repercussions would be in the event that the district was not created or if one was 30 00:02:32,81 --> 00:02:34,14 . We did receive 31 00:02:34,15 --> 00:02:38,38 a petition it was signed by almost everybody I will tell you that it was not signed 32 00:02:38,39 --> 00:02:43,56 by everybody there were one or two property owners the did not sign and Brian 33 00:02:43,57 --> 00:02:46,59 Holmes was one of the property owners that on the majority the property the time 34 00:02:46,60 --> 00:02:50,09 they obviously did sign. So as 35 00:02:50,10 --> 00:02:54,80 a result what occurred was. The developers representative and I did go to the 36 00:02:54,81 --> 00:02:58,68 majority of homes and talk to each of the property owners about what was going to 37 00:02:58,69 --> 00:03:03,91 happen if they did not sign in really with what happens in this case because of two 38 00:03:03,92 --> 00:03:05,21 issues in the subdivision they have 39 00:03:05,22 --> 00:03:08,80 a sign that identifies the name of the subdivision and they also have 40 00:03:08,81 --> 00:03:13,44 a pond that has to be maintained which is currently being maintained by the 41 00:03:13,45 --> 00:03:16,88 developer and that will occur until such time as the developments will be 42 00:03:16,89 --> 00:03:20,69 constructed in which case the developer will then dedicate that lane to the town of 43 00:03:20,70 --> 00:03:25,03 Penfield and will then we will be responsible through 44 00:03:25,04 --> 00:03:30,15 a taxing program to mow the grass around the pond and maintain it to the properties 45 00:03:30,24 --> 00:03:36,36 owners and subdivisions determination we have done some calculations we have 46 00:03:36,37 --> 00:03:38,37 determined that it's 47 00:03:38,38 --> 00:03:42,35 a lot of depending upon up with the OEM homeowners want for that subdivision if 48 00:03:42,36 --> 00:03:47,72 they want good maiden's where it's manicured as it is at this point time or will be 49 00:03:48,40 --> 00:03:52,64 once the weather breaks again our director of the D.P.W. 50 00:03:52,65 --> 00:03:56,61 Had indicated to me today that he's charged he is charged by 51 00:03:56,62 --> 00:04:02,31 a contractor sixty dollars per cut on the on these times throughout the community 52 00:04:02,84 --> 00:04:07,79 so if the developers. The developers are going to maintain this for the next year 53 00:04:07,80 --> 00:04:08,69 or so that should not be 54 00:04:08,70 --> 00:04:12,50 a problem for the for the property owners the property owners have the opportunity 55 00:04:12,51 --> 00:04:16,11 to determine whether or not they want it manicured or if they want to be less of 56 00:04:16,12 --> 00:04:17,80 manicured or even go back to 57 00:04:17,81 --> 00:04:21,77 a wild state it is at the entrance to their subdivision so I'm suspecting that 58 00:04:21,78 --> 00:04:25,06 they're not going to want to see that happen if it's manicured to 59 00:04:25,07 --> 00:04:29,91 a point where it's mode. Every Other Week throughout the summer months at sixty 60 00:04:29,92 --> 00:04:35,12 dollars times twelve you get seven hundred twenty dollars for the summer and the 61 00:04:35,13 --> 00:04:41,10 fall. That divided by the thirty six property owners within the track. Would bring 62 00:04:41,11 --> 00:04:41,68 that down to 63 00:04:41,69 --> 00:04:48,52 a point where they would be around. I don't know I was just going to sign as well 64 00:04:48,53 --> 00:04:53,67 we're charging two dollars per year per property for the same maintenance the 65 00:04:53,68 --> 00:04:57,87 purpose of that is to ensure that ten years from now or fifteen years from now when 66 00:04:57,88 --> 00:04:58,64 the saying goes into 67 00:04:58,65 --> 00:05:02,91 a state of disrepair rather than one of the property owners having to go into each 68 00:05:02,92 --> 00:05:07,16 home and ask each of each property owner for some money to repair that sign they're 69 00:05:07,17 --> 00:05:11,24 not going to be required to do that we will take care of that for them at the point 70 00:05:11,25 --> 00:05:15,17 that it needs to be repaired if something happens to the science to an accident or 71 00:05:15,18 --> 00:05:16,35 somebody hits the sign with 72 00:05:16,36 --> 00:05:20,82 a vehicle or something of that nature the town and the property owners will not be 73 00:05:20,83 --> 00:05:24,11 really responsible for the payment that would come through the sureness companies 74 00:05:24,12 --> 00:05:28,35 as has happened in the town in the past so it's mainly it's mainly 75 00:05:28,36 --> 00:05:32,95 a repainting standing that kind of issue for the sign if we charge two dollars per 76 00:05:32,96 --> 00:05:35,88 year it comes out to seventy two dollars per year over 77 00:05:35,89 --> 00:05:39,77 a ten year period we kind of get close to the cost of that sign and I'm going to 78 00:05:39,78 --> 00:05:44,42 supporting that same will be in good shape ten or fifteen years from now if you add 79 00:05:44,43 --> 00:05:50,76 those two fees together it would come out to seven hundred sixty fifty six dollars 80 00:05:50,77 --> 00:05:54,91 per year for the entire subdivision divided by thirty six would be twenty one 81 00:05:54,92 --> 00:05:59,18 dollars per year per family within the subdivision for the maintenance of the pond 82 00:05:59,84 --> 00:06:05,15 and the sign if the developers I'm sorry if the property owners decide they'd like 83 00:06:05,16 --> 00:06:09,66 to have less than twelve cuts per year on their pond. It could come down 84 00:06:09,67 --> 00:06:14,09 drastically depending on what they do determine to be an appropriate number. And we 85 00:06:14,10 --> 00:06:16,77 would have to sit down with them to determine if they're comparable with the twelve 86 00:06:16,78 --> 00:06:21,14 cuts or if they'd like less than that or more than that depending on the situation 87 00:06:21,14 --> 00:06:26,92 . That's kind of where we are I did for those who are here for the for the 88 00:06:26,93 --> 00:06:32,15 subdivision I did bring a brochure for you to take home with you that addresses 89 00:06:32,27 --> 00:06:35,61 a special treatment the structure more than welcome to take some home if you'd like 90 00:06:35,62 --> 00:06:39,37 to get to your neighbors who are not here tonight that's going to be my question 91 00:06:39,38 --> 00:06:43,81 Jim is for property owners there what what do they do from here on out you know 92 00:06:43,82 --> 00:06:49,48 assuming that this goes into effect you know I'm kind of happy I see the sign is 93 00:06:49,52 --> 00:06:55,48 getting chipped peeled deteriorating but what if what we do then this sign will be 94 00:06:55,49 --> 00:06:59,21 maintained by the developers until such time as they leave the site that probably 95 00:06:59,22 --> 00:07:03,02 would be another yourself if something happens during that period of time they let 96 00:07:03,03 --> 00:07:06,62 us know that's an issue we will contact the developer ensure that they have that 97 00:07:06,63 --> 00:07:08,23 repaired before they leave the site we have 98 00:07:08,24 --> 00:07:13,23 a lot of credit to ensure that occurs before they leave after that period of time 99 00:07:13,24 --> 00:07:15,52 if something happens where the sign does start to come into 100 00:07:15,53 --> 00:07:19,49 a state of disrepair and used to be repainted we would have to sign taken care of 101 00:07:19,50 --> 00:07:20,90 through a contractor through 102 00:07:20,91 --> 00:07:25,04 a low bid process that we're going to repair the sign and then that money will come 103 00:07:25,05 --> 00:07:30,00 out of the the fees that have been collected for the meanings of the sign so it's 104 00:07:30,01 --> 00:07:30,35 merely 105 00:07:30,36 --> 00:07:35,40 a one of the property owners contacting the town that's right now tonight we're 106 00:07:35,46 --> 00:07:37,32 we're here is a public hearing we're not here to make 107 00:07:37,33 --> 00:07:41,60 a decision I disappointed that what would happen after this public hearing is that 108 00:07:41,61 --> 00:07:44,98 we will meet with the neighbors or group of the neighbors who represent the entire 109 00:07:44,99 --> 00:07:46,51 subdivision get 110 00:07:46,52 --> 00:07:49,62 a feeling for them as to what they're confortable with with the number of cuts per 111 00:07:49,63 --> 00:07:53,67 year for the for the pond area and then bring that back to you and the town 112 00:07:53,68 --> 00:07:57,97 assessor so that they have you all have an idea of what it is they're looking for 113 00:07:57,98 --> 00:08:04,92 in terms of an annual maintenance program for that area. Board 114 00:08:05,04 --> 00:08:11,24 their questions or comments from Mr Constable before we open. It up to the just 115 00:08:11,33 --> 00:08:15,87 just one question maybe clarification. Response or mention 116 00:08:15,88 --> 00:08:20,15 a sign of falls in disrepair but what about landscaping or embellish it's what is 117 00:08:20,16 --> 00:08:22,92 the extent of special and special problem that's 118 00:08:22,93 --> 00:08:27,43 a very good question because the other side of that is if the developers leave the 119 00:08:27,44 --> 00:08:32,20 site as it's currently situated and the property owners get together and decide 120 00:08:32,21 --> 00:08:36,52 they would like to see it special improvements additional landscaping perhaps or if 121 00:08:36,53 --> 00:08:37,43 they want to see 122 00:08:38,31 --> 00:08:42,17 a narration system installed in the pond area something of that nature do you know 123 00:08:42,18 --> 00:08:46,21 cut down on algae growth they have every right to come to the town and ask for that 124 00:08:46,98 --> 00:08:50,18 we would certainly go out and get prices in quotes for them you know we are 125 00:08:50,19 --> 00:08:54,04 policies always get at least three quotes we would sit down with them and indicate 126 00:08:54,05 --> 00:08:57,69 this is what it would cost we would have to assess that to the special improvement 127 00:08:57,70 --> 00:08:58,26 district over 128 00:08:58,27 --> 00:09:02,73 a period of time but they could actually ask for betterments if they'd like to. 129 00:09:04,03 --> 00:09:07,85 Versus just keeping it minimal it's going to be up to the neighborhood to do what 130 00:09:07,86 --> 00:09:11,58 they like to do for the for the you know for the site we will act as 131 00:09:11,59 --> 00:09:15,79 a liaison for them and the contractors to get that work done recognizing that they 132 00:09:15,80 --> 00:09:20,40 would pay for that through the special Improvement District fees so the cost of 133 00:09:20,41 --> 00:09:24,00 a borne by the homeowners it always will be few and that was the whole purpose of 134 00:09:24,01 --> 00:09:28,38 our long discussion regarding homeowners association versus special improvement 135 00:09:28,39 --> 00:09:32,25 districts you can trust the homeowners association in single family detached 136 00:09:32,26 --> 00:09:35,39 housing because nobody wants to be that person not going to everybody's door to say 137 00:09:35,40 --> 00:09:40,15 I want I really need this much money from you this year to affect improvements now 138 00:09:40,16 --> 00:09:43,20 it's just tax their tax program to get it done on 139 00:09:43,21 --> 00:09:47,24 a day basis and they don't have to go out and ask her neighbors for more money it's 140 00:09:47,25 --> 00:09:51,85 going to be dependent upon what they really want in terms of betterments or keeping 141 00:09:51,86 --> 00:09:52,16 it at 142 00:09:52,17 --> 00:09:57,05 a minimal maintenance program they have the right to do either one. I just did 143 00:09:57,06 --> 00:09:59,09 a new deal for example if we take 144 00:09:59,10 --> 00:10:04,84 a look at very broad pond that we have there and you know like avenue we do not 145 00:10:04,85 --> 00:10:09,88 mold that pond the way it was you know set up and design. There are some cat tails 146 00:10:10,05 --> 00:10:14,64 there are some wildflowers and there is essentially no more we made and some of 147 00:10:14,65 --> 00:10:21,11 that that pond it all so that's one that's one extreme that guy but the other one 148 00:10:21,12 --> 00:10:25,73 would be as Mr Costello had indicated if you want to keep it warm manicured it 149 00:10:25,74 --> 00:10:31,40 could be you know as many as ten or twelve times or if you wanted to go middle of 150 00:10:31,41 --> 00:10:37,67 the road and do it two or three times so I mean it really is part of this part of 151 00:10:37,68 --> 00:10:42,54 this discussion will be to see what the appetite for the you know property owners 152 00:10:42,55 --> 00:10:47,51 are as to what to what degree they want to keep keep that kept when you bring up 153 00:10:47,52 --> 00:10:51,31 a good point because the other end of this is if the district was not created there 154 00:10:51,32 --> 00:10:53,53 be no maintenance on our part it would just go back to 155 00:10:53,54 --> 00:10:58,50 a state of you know natural development as to what it was we would not spend the 156 00:10:58,51 --> 00:11:03,83 time or the money on the pond to maintain it or manicure it. But we would make sure 157 00:11:03,84 --> 00:11:05,22 that it functions properly and that's 158 00:11:05,23 --> 00:11:08,52 a different issue and everybody in the town of Penfield as you know pays 159 00:11:08,53 --> 00:11:14,16 a drainage tax fee we're all responsible for that the actual maintenance of the you 160 00:11:14,17 --> 00:11:17,70 know princes of the pond had to be dragged at some point in time or if the pipe 161 00:11:17,71 --> 00:11:21,61 system had to be improved at some point in time that does come out of the drainage 162 00:11:21,62 --> 00:11:25,80 fees that we all pay as resident time Penfield and they're not responsible for that 163 00:11:25,81 --> 00:11:30,25 kind of improvement through the special district that is something that we all take 164 00:11:30,26 --> 00:11:35,70 care of our dreams program. You know Jim regarding the the entranceway with the 165 00:11:35,71 --> 00:11:40,84 sign and the neighborhood is certainly free to get together they'd like to say 166 00:11:40,85 --> 00:11:44,12 deployment flowers landscaping maybe that if they have 167 00:11:44,13 --> 00:11:49,50 a garden club that gets formed and they want to embellish it and their own and they 168 00:11:49,51 --> 00:11:53,85 really do know because the sign is actually on private property we have an access 169 00:11:53,86 --> 00:11:57,49 easement to it too if we have to take it off the property because it's it's not 170 00:11:57,50 --> 00:12:01,26 being maintained or if we have to repair it we have access to it to make sure that 171 00:12:01,27 --> 00:12:05,28 we can do that but in essence it's on private property and you know the neighbors 172 00:12:05,29 --> 00:12:09,15 cannot go into one one neighbor's property and do things without my permission. Of 173 00:12:09,16 --> 00:12:13,82 the present property owner That's correct. And I know that the property owner that 174 00:12:13,83 --> 00:12:14,02 has 175 00:12:14,03 --> 00:12:20,99 a sign on his property is actually in attendance one so I please. So 176 00:12:21,00 --> 00:12:27,88 other other companies that were. Questions. OK so let's open it 177 00:12:27,89 --> 00:12:33,63 up to the audience at this point. Has anyone signed up to speak for this particular 178 00:12:33,64 --> 00:12:38,64 public hearing if you didn't that's OK Jim Well next go to those that did not sign 179 00:12:38,65 --> 00:12:43,50 up but would like to to address this matter. You don't have anybody for the public 180 00:12:43,51 --> 00:12:48,24 here OK great so any one of the audience that would like to address this matter yes 181 00:12:48,25 --> 00:12:52,72 sir please please come up and give us your name and address. 182 00:12:57,92 --> 00:13:02,76 I much Ed Miller I I own the property at ten actually rise which contains the 183 00:13:02,77 --> 00:13:08,70 monument so yes indeed it is on private property. Up to this point the. 184 00:13:09,78 --> 00:13:15,78 Developer and we are in has maintained the sign and actually has 185 00:13:16,67 --> 00:13:21,91 improved I guess that's the right word improve the. Land around the sign for 186 00:13:21,92 --> 00:13:26,08 a distance of about. Thirty feet on 187 00:13:26,09 --> 00:13:29,34 a side with some low shrubs and also with 188 00:13:29,35 --> 00:13:35,90 a very interesting solar panel operated lighting scheme which is interesting. I 189 00:13:35,91 --> 00:13:42,31 don't have any difficulty with another property owner asking permission to go 190 00:13:42,98 --> 00:13:49,11 on to the land occupied by the monument and embellishing it with with the printing 191 00:13:49,12 --> 00:13:54,74 L's but more annual But I do have an issue with the treatment plant being planted 192 00:13:54,75 --> 00:13:57,47 by somebody saw Bill would certainly be interested in having 193 00:13:58,03 --> 00:14:02,04 a discussion with that if there arises a group of people that form 194 00:14:02,05 --> 00:14:04,65 a little garden club or something like that want to do something then we could all 195 00:14:04,66 --> 00:14:04,78 have 196 00:14:04,79 --> 00:14:09,94 a discussion but right now I would I would want input into. Anything that's attempted 197 00:14:10,90 --> 00:14:12,41 I don't anticipate that will happen for 198 00:14:12,42 --> 00:14:17,35 a while the developer still in control of everything. So there is there's really no 199 00:14:17,36 --> 00:14:23,10 current issue with any access requests or anything so. Great if you think THANK YOU 200 00:14:23,89 --> 00:14:30,14 THANK YOU. So anyone else that would like to address the Ashland rise special 201 00:14:30,15 --> 00:14:31,41 Improvement District. 202 00:14:37,14 --> 00:14:42,93 Representative. Because I don't like knowing this is because until we're two 203 00:14:42,94 --> 00:14:47,16 adjacent neighbors while we might not be we came here because we're having some 204 00:14:47,20 --> 00:14:50,31 other issues and this is not the place I would not be this is not 205 00:14:50,32 --> 00:14:54,48 a place to do it but there is an opportunity if you'd like to address the board 206 00:14:54,49 --> 00:14:54,83 this is 207 00:14:54,84 --> 00:14:59,37 a public hearing specifically on the improvement district if you have other issues 208 00:14:59,38 --> 00:15:04,29 that you'd like to talk to the board about. We will address that public 209 00:15:04,30 --> 00:15:10,51 participation in about twenty minutes or thereabouts plus or minus depending upon 210 00:15:10,52 --> 00:15:14,18 how this public how long this public hearing goes in the next public hearing goes 211 00:15:14,53 --> 00:15:19,72 OK so if you'd like to sit back and relax and enjoy and then you'll have an 212 00:15:19,73 --> 00:15:26,17 opportunity to about fifteen or twenty minutes. All right thank you. So 213 00:15:26,55 --> 00:15:33,21 yes ma'am please come forward. I am Shannon 214 00:15:33,22 --> 00:15:37,64 Williams I'm an eleven national rounds I'm one of the individuals that didn't 215 00:15:38,07 --> 00:15:44,82 initially sign off on any of the petitions that went around I do have some 216 00:15:44,83 --> 00:15:51,55 concerns. There's the pond seems to have attracted about thirty 217 00:15:51,65 --> 00:15:56,93 geese that wander around the neighborhood they're all over the sidewalks there in 218 00:15:56,94 --> 00:16:03,37 the street there in the yards. I am concerned you mentioned if there were if we 219 00:16:03,38 --> 00:16:08,62 wanted to ration put in things like that that would be something that we would have 220 00:16:08,63 --> 00:16:13,19 to come. Address after the fact but is there anything that would be done beforehand 221 00:16:13,69 --> 00:16:14,50 knowing that this is 222 00:16:14,51 --> 00:16:21,51 a preexisting problem with the geese. I did I know you're 223 00:16:21,52 --> 00:16:24,24 absolutely right if you talk to several neighbors and I actually witnessed to 224 00:16:24,25 --> 00:16:27,86 myself the pond has attracted several geese I know you have 225 00:16:27,87 --> 00:16:33,31 a problem down the street and around the pond and that's why I'm talking to the 226 00:16:33,32 --> 00:16:33,91 D.P.W. 227 00:16:33,92 --> 00:16:38,98 Director and he recognizes that as well we found in other parts of the town. We've 228 00:16:38,99 --> 00:16:42,95 had problems in other parts of the town and we found that once cattle world starts 229 00:16:42,96 --> 00:16:46,83 growing up around the pond area where they can't get access to it they have 230 00:16:46,84 --> 00:16:50,73 a tendency not to stay there for after a period of time that could be quite 231 00:16:50,74 --> 00:16:52,60 a while yet for you though and I know it's 232 00:16:52,61 --> 00:16:55,59 a problem theoretically if you were to allow 233 00:16:55,60 --> 00:16:58,97 a certain area to grow between the street and the pond every where they couldn't 234 00:16:58,98 --> 00:17:02,43 get access to the pond from the street area it might deter them 235 00:17:02,44 --> 00:17:05,86 a little bit from actually going to the pond or being in the area where the street 236 00:17:05,87 --> 00:17:11,53 is way right of the problems occurring so I do appreciate the situation I have 237 00:17:11,54 --> 00:17:12,24 actually talked to 238 00:17:12,25 --> 00:17:15,25 a couple of neighbors who were concerned about it as well I've actually put them in 239 00:17:15,26 --> 00:17:17,60 contact with the E.C. The E.C. 240 00:17:17,61 --> 00:17:22,13 Has certain protocols that they use I don't know how effective they are but they do 241 00:17:22,14 --> 00:17:27,60 have protocols to try and minimize the impact to the neighborhood so we could work 242 00:17:27,61 --> 00:17:31,14 with you in that regard to see if that works if not we could look at 243 00:17:31,15 --> 00:17:32,59 a possibility of maybe leaving 244 00:17:32,60 --> 00:17:36,32 a strip of area around the edge of the pond where they can't get access to it from 245 00:17:36,33 --> 00:17:40,39 the street then we deter them from staying in the areas of their room. And that 246 00:17:40,40 --> 00:17:46,67 would be something that you could do. Build. Into that I mean this program exactly 247 00:17:46,85 --> 00:17:48,87 and I think as I said we need to sit down with you as 248 00:17:48,88 --> 00:17:52,13 a group and determine what your needs really are and what you want to see happen 249 00:17:52,14 --> 00:17:56,53 down there but that might be one way to deter them from if they can't get to the 250 00:17:56,61 --> 00:18:00,87 time from the street they might not stay in the street area please go into the pond 251 00:18:00,88 --> 00:18:04,79 lights. I was just going to quickly mention that we also have 252 00:18:04,80 --> 00:18:10,19 a pamphlet on living your stormwater. And maybe. Jim could provide you with one of 253 00:18:10,20 --> 00:18:14,41 those and one of the most knowledgeable men in the room is Jeff Benway he's back 254 00:18:14,42 --> 00:18:16,59 there and he every year in April does 255 00:18:16,60 --> 00:18:23,15 a wonderful series or lecture here on storm living your storm one storm want to 256 00:18:23,16 --> 00:18:27,55 pines and I'm sure before he was sorry before you leave now you may want to just 257 00:18:27,56 --> 00:18:31,47 chat with Jeff will probably give you some other tips or at least some other ideas 258 00:18:31,79 --> 00:18:38,00 OK neighborhood thank you believe that timeline as well as Jeff. Living on your 259 00:18:38,01 --> 00:18:44,91 lines. Our website yeah OK I did also have another question and this 260 00:18:44,92 --> 00:18:51,66 is because of my ignorance but I am curious what is if we do 261 00:18:51,91 --> 00:18:56,51 take on the special we and I it's my understanding that we are requesting this 262 00:18:56,61 --> 00:19:02,26 special Improvement District. If something happens in the pond if someone falls and 263 00:19:02,27 --> 00:19:03,36 is injured is there 264 00:19:03,37 --> 00:19:09,71 a liability that the property owners shoulder. I'm going to look to our child 265 00:19:09,72 --> 00:19:10,89 attorney less. 266 00:19:16,49 --> 00:19:20,97 Like what could I do what would that be speculate OK to plead 267 00:19:20,98 --> 00:19:25,69 a special improvement just your cases on liability insurance and it would cover 268 00:19:25,70 --> 00:19:30,26 those kinds of situations OK OK but the part that you make 269 00:19:30,27 --> 00:19:36,98 a conscious or not be my view is. It's just I mean and that's very. True. 270 00:19:38,04 --> 00:19:42,40 Thank you thanks thank you the best way to put I guess Jim is that this is the 271 00:19:42,41 --> 00:19:47,12 aperture this is the way we have property owners way and what they'd like and 272 00:19:47,13 --> 00:19:47,55 certainly be 273 00:19:47,56 --> 00:19:51,76 a part of the process and coming for you not only requesting it but you know 274 00:19:51,77 --> 00:19:57,31 seeking after the fact seeking various proposals or you know to involve you in the 275 00:19:57,32 --> 00:20:02,60 process of maintaining the property near you even though it as Jim says is 276 00:20:02,61 --> 00:20:09,55 dedicated to time and that the patent itself. So anyone else would 277 00:20:09,56 --> 00:20:15,00 like to address the board on this matter the special proven distributor for action 278 00:20:15,01 --> 00:20:21,94 on rice. OK board. Any further questions 279 00:20:22,06 --> 00:20:27,36 from Mr Costello on this site just one quick question is just for Pfizer Jim I 280 00:20:27,37 --> 00:20:32,02 correct when I say that these types of were tension patterns and new developments 281 00:20:32,06 --> 00:20:35,77 are a requirement for New York State it's actually 282 00:20:35,78 --> 00:20:38,05 a federal requirement but New York State D.C. 283 00:20:38,06 --> 00:20:42,18 Administers it for the state of New York and these plans are now the plans we all 284 00:20:42,19 --> 00:20:45,44 grew up with we just dig out of this area and just let it sit there and with 285 00:20:45,48 --> 00:20:49,75 retention they're now designed to accommodate store more quantity but they're also 286 00:20:49,76 --> 00:20:54,04 designed to accommodate Strong want to quality so you have people poor areas within 287 00:20:54,05 --> 00:20:57,46 them with shallow pool areas you have certain kinds of plantings that are installed 288 00:20:57,47 --> 00:21:04,24 now to take. Out nutrient you know some of the phosphorus and other things that are 289 00:21:04,25 --> 00:21:08,74 going through the water column so it's not it's not like the old days we just dug 290 00:21:08,75 --> 00:21:13,19 a hole and hope for the best I mean it's more about scientific process now for each 291 00:21:13,20 --> 00:21:17,32 of these parts and they have to be maintained so they're mandated basically they're 292 00:21:17,33 --> 00:21:21,62 mandated were mandated to maintain them to the standards that the federal and state 293 00:21:21,63 --> 00:21:23,59 governments have put together to insure 294 00:21:23,60 --> 00:21:30,01 a storm want to quality to the various want to thank you. Other questions for Mr 295 00:21:30,02 --> 00:21:36,69 Costello. OK so what next steps tonight is the public hearing so the next steps 296 00:21:37,11 --> 00:21:43,29 is that this will be further discussion at work sessions and sounds like there will 297 00:21:43,30 --> 00:21:47,83 be some additional discussion with the neighborhood as well as Mr Costello had 298 00:21:47,84 --> 00:21:54,82 indicated that will we will keep that posted on our website that agenda on 299 00:21:54,83 --> 00:22:00,84 our website and you'll have an opportunity whenever that comes up for 300 00:22:00,85 --> 00:22:05,45 a work session that will be on the agenda and again you can check the website of 301 00:22:05,46 --> 00:22:10,79 Penfield dot org for that to find out when the next time the board will take it up 302 00:22:11,11 --> 00:22:16,05 the next the earliest opportunity will be next Wednesday the twenty eighth of 303 00:22:16,19 --> 00:22:21,84 January certainly everyone is everyone anyone is welcome to attend we meet in the 304 00:22:21,85 --> 00:22:26,34 back of the room but again I would just encourage you to go to the website to check 305 00:22:26,35 --> 00:22:33,08 the agenda to see if in fact it's listed item on the agenda Ok seen no 306 00:22:33,09 --> 00:22:37,64 further questions or comments from the board then I'll declare this 307 00:22:37,73 --> 00:22:44,64 a public hearing close and I'll ask our clerk to next read. The public 308 00:22:44,65 --> 00:22:46,05 hearing for all of you R.P. 309 00:22:46,05 --> 00:22:52,07 . To consider the adoption of the proposed update to the local waterfront 310 00:22:52,08 --> 00:22:58,05 revitalization program how W R P legal notice was published in the pantheon post 311 00:22:58,06 --> 00:23:03,84 and January. If two thousand and fifteen posted on the Tao website click bottom 312 00:23:03,85 --> 00:23:08,44 board no postcards your mail. Due to this being 313 00:23:08,45 --> 00:23:14,96 a town where the action great Mr Harwood says is properly before the board and so I 314 00:23:14,97 --> 00:23:20,42 will again will recognize Mr Costello as he's coming to the podium I'd also like to 315 00:23:20,58 --> 00:23:24,61 to recognize Kerry Iverson from the town of Rhonda quite often they're planning 316 00:23:24,62 --> 00:23:31,59 department. Jim Carey and representatives from the town of Webster meet on 317 00:23:31,60 --> 00:23:38,56 a very regular basis on and happen for for some time and so with that 318 00:23:38,69 --> 00:23:43,33 Kerry thank you for being here to hear the comments from the public hearing and 319 00:23:43,84 --> 00:23:48,82 self you would give us an overview Thank you Mr Supervisor and before I do that I 320 00:23:48,83 --> 00:23:52,90 would like to think Kerry because since he's been working for the town of 321 00:23:52,91 --> 00:23:57,76 Ironically he's moved mountains in terms of moving forward to get the people that 322 00:23:57,77 --> 00:23:58,98 town to 323 00:23:58,99 --> 00:24:03,67 a point where it's now getting to completion and will be adoptable hopefully within 324 00:24:03,68 --> 00:24:06,41 the here some point in time we are kind of 325 00:24:06,42 --> 00:24:11,27 a time crunch now because the grant period is now coming to an end and we need to 326 00:24:11,28 --> 00:24:16,72 get these documents done in order to fulfill the requirements of the the great 327 00:24:16,73 --> 00:24:20,74 requirements so just to give you some background as to where we are and where we've 328 00:24:20,75 --> 00:24:26,46 been in town of Penfield did adopt its original L W R P A local waterfront reply 329 00:24:26,47 --> 00:24:26,71 was 330 00:24:26,72 --> 00:24:31,81 a from program in July of one thousand nine hundred one and shortly thereafter it 331 00:24:31,82 --> 00:24:37,98 was adopted and approved by the secretary of state in October of that year through 332 00:24:37,99 --> 00:24:41,52 that period of time the purpose of the L.W.R. P. 333 00:24:41,53 --> 00:24:43,58 Is to act as a partnership in 334 00:24:43,59 --> 00:24:48,40 a partnership of the state of New York whereby the state sets out policies that the 335 00:24:48,41 --> 00:24:53,67 towns follow and in the purpose of following the policy and maintaining consistency 336 00:24:53,68 --> 00:24:58,09 with what the state determines the be appropriate for waterfront development and 337 00:24:58,34 --> 00:25:03,19 preservation of the environment. The state then allows each town to apply for 338 00:25:03,20 --> 00:25:06,85 grants in the town of Penfield has actually been the recipient of several grants 339 00:25:07,59 --> 00:25:11,80 most notably the grant that we received purchased Zimmerman lands on the on the 340 00:25:11,81 --> 00:25:12,37 conflicts of 341 00:25:12,38 --> 00:25:17,95 a runaway Creek and the bay which is now known as one thousand in park we also 342 00:25:17,96 --> 00:25:21,96 receive subsequent grants to allow for some boardwalk development within that park 343 00:25:22,94 --> 00:25:27,24 and actually allowed for some acquisition of other lands within the realm of the 344 00:25:27,25 --> 00:25:27,82 R.P. 345 00:25:27,83 --> 00:25:33,66 To revitalize the town's waterfront. On the television screen you do see the existing 346 00:25:34,05 --> 00:25:40,66 existing boundaries of R L W R P. Shortly after that boundary was created and 347 00:25:40,67 --> 00:25:46,31 approved it became apparent that it was too excessive in terms of its scope and 348 00:25:46,32 --> 00:25:51,34 size the boundaries really fall on the property line of the town of Western 349 00:25:51,35 --> 00:25:55,89 Penfield out to the center of the bay they power through the center of the bay down 350 00:25:55,90 --> 00:25:59,46 to Brown probabl of art and follow Brown probable of art up to create 351 00:25:59,68 --> 00:26:04,01 a creek street to follow Creek Street up to Empire Boulevard and then take empire 352 00:26:04,02 --> 00:26:10,60 to Bay. And then tie into the town line and Webster once we really realize that 353 00:26:10,61 --> 00:26:16,24 much of that land within the L W R P was not really functional in terms of 354 00:26:16,25 --> 00:26:20,17 providing revitalization to the waterfront we determine that it was probably had to 355 00:26:20,18 --> 00:26:24,76 be reduced in scope and as part of this project that's what we're doing we're 356 00:26:24,77 --> 00:26:30,03 taking out many of the properties and creeks treat some of the properties over 357 00:26:30,26 --> 00:26:37,25 often white village. Parks you drive old Westfall those properties are 358 00:26:37,26 --> 00:26:40,61 obviously remote from areas where we would do 359 00:26:40,62 --> 00:26:45,25 a lot of the work in terms of waterfront realization we did keep the wetlands 360 00:26:45,26 --> 00:26:49,61 around those areas though because there's an opportunity for hiking trails all 361 00:26:49,62 --> 00:26:50,58 sorts of you know maybe 362 00:26:50,59 --> 00:26:54,67 a little kayak launches that kind of thing that we are eligible for funding and we 363 00:26:54,68 --> 00:26:57,54 didn't want to miss the opportunity of being able to apply for those kinds of 364 00:26:57,55 --> 00:27:04,33 branches as time went on. The purpose of the the update was actually 365 00:27:04,34 --> 00:27:09,40 three fold the three towns realize that after two thousand and three when each of 366 00:27:09,41 --> 00:27:13,23 the towns adopted the harbor management plan and then again in two thousand and 367 00:27:13,24 --> 00:27:16,78 eight when they adopted the harbor management law the Department of State would 368 00:27:16,79 --> 00:27:21,79 like to see those documents incorporated into each Times L W R P So that was one 369 00:27:21,80 --> 00:27:26,44 reason why we were able to receive the grants that we did do the update the other 370 00:27:26,45 --> 00:27:31,26 portions that were of interest particularly the town of Penfield was the fact as I 371 00:27:31,27 --> 00:27:33,95 mentioned earlier we want to reduce the scope of the L.W.R. P. 372 00:27:33,96 --> 00:27:37,91 To make it more functional for everybody within the waterfront area and then 373 00:27:37,92 --> 00:27:44,44 thirdly because of I think. Issues associated with 374 00:27:45,17 --> 00:27:51,17 perceptions on the south end of the bay the original document actually tried to 375 00:27:51,18 --> 00:27:55,84 prohibit although it didn't prohibit it recommended prohibition of any additional 376 00:27:55,85 --> 00:27:59,90 docking at the south end of the bay but it did that without any studies and it was 377 00:27:59,91 --> 00:28:05,01 just kind of by eyesight only that it was done since that point in time we have had 378 00:28:05,02 --> 00:28:08,22 additional biological studies done that indicated that was not going to be 379 00:28:08,23 --> 00:28:12,72 a problem to have additional backing provided that there was adequate water that 380 00:28:12,89 --> 00:28:15,47 there was adequately inside support and there was 381 00:28:15,48 --> 00:28:19,61 a ruling this on the part of whoever is willing to do this to provide additional 382 00:28:19,62 --> 00:28:24,28 water additional access to the water's edge on him and equate Bay in this recently 383 00:28:24,29 --> 00:28:29,84 just occurred with the South Koreans those three issues really drove the process 384 00:28:29,85 --> 00:28:32,49 for the town to want to update itself might be where P. 385 00:28:32,53 --> 00:28:38,19 Is taking quite a while to do it we have finally finished that the L W R P Just as 386 00:28:38,20 --> 00:28:44,57 a quick note is comprised of seven sections the first section is the talks about 387 00:28:44,58 --> 00:28:45,64 the existing L.W.R. 388 00:28:45,65 --> 00:28:49,96 Peabody and reason the second one talks about how they're going to change the third 389 00:28:49,97 --> 00:28:54,51 one addresses the inventory and analyzes the land use and water use of the service 390 00:28:54,52 --> 00:29:00,35 of a running base within the district. The third section such for thirteen L.W. 391 00:29:00,36 --> 00:29:00,76 Or P.P. 392 00:29:00,77 --> 00:29:05,95 Policies those are the state policies that were required to comply with the fourth 393 00:29:05,96 --> 00:29:12,00 one discusses the land of water use projects to fit the district and so the section 394 00:29:12,14 --> 00:29:16,62 discusses techniques and local implementation how we would do these projects in 395 00:29:16,81 --> 00:29:21,23 concert with the state of New York. The six section addresses state and federal 396 00:29:21,24 --> 00:29:25,87 actions and programs likely to affect implementation. In the sub of policy 397 00:29:25,88 --> 00:29:29,75 addresses local commitments in consultation with federal state and regional 398 00:29:29,76 --> 00:29:33,20 agencies of the local commitment would be that we would actually put up money as 399 00:29:33,21 --> 00:29:37,09 well as them in terms of our grant programs and we would work with each of those 400 00:29:37,10 --> 00:29:41,96 state federal agencies and regionally disease to ensure compliance with whatever 401 00:29:41,97 --> 00:29:45,35 project we propose the interesting thing about the L.W.O.P. 402 00:29:45,36 --> 00:29:49,00 Also is it's to see it's to ended and that we have to comply with state 403 00:29:49,01 --> 00:29:51,45 requirements but the state of New York also S. 404 00:29:51,46 --> 00:29:54,50 Comply with requirements set forth within the realm of your P. 405 00:29:54,51 --> 00:29:56,56 For instance if the state the O.T. 406 00:29:56,57 --> 00:30:00,10 Determines that they'd like to widen Empire Boulevard to six lanes instead of the 407 00:30:00,11 --> 00:30:02,63 current four the L.W.O.P. 408 00:30:02,64 --> 00:30:04,48 Does not recommend that to occur so as 409 00:30:04,49 --> 00:30:08,40 a result they would theoretically not be permitted to do it or if they were 410 00:30:08,41 --> 00:30:12,53 permitted to do it they would have to demonstrate why it was necessary to do it and 411 00:30:12,54 --> 00:30:16,38 how they would comply with the other components of the Ellaby harpy So that is 412 00:30:16,39 --> 00:30:21,08 a nice feature that the towns receive because of their their partnership with the 413 00:30:21,09 --> 00:30:25,05 state. There are some appendices to the L B R A P There's 414 00:30:25,06 --> 00:30:29,14 a local consistency law that we will adopt as part of the L.R.B. R.P. 415 00:30:29,15 --> 00:30:32,39 There's currently one in place that's pretty much the exact same one that we have 416 00:30:32,40 --> 00:30:35,67 in place now. The ironically they have 417 00:30:35,68 --> 00:30:41,06 a management plan by reference they want to live with that as Kerry knows she and I 418 00:30:41,07 --> 00:30:44,56 are working with the town of Webster right now to update that plan which is now. 419 00:30:45,51 --> 00:30:49,40 Twelve years are about twelve years old so we're doing that in the process of 420 00:30:50,02 --> 00:30:53,02 discussing all the every day activities that are occurring on the bay and how they 421 00:30:53,03 --> 00:30:54,25 relate to the L.W.R. 422 00:30:54,26 --> 00:30:58,74 Piece there is the harbor management law which we will be looking at probably next 423 00:30:58,75 --> 00:31:03,77 year as determining whether or not it's in compliance with the L W R P and her 424 00:31:03,78 --> 00:31:05,88 management plan and finally there's 425 00:31:05,89 --> 00:31:12,19 a coastal fish and wildlife habitat. Graph as as an appendix to the document as 426 00:31:12,20 --> 00:31:16,23 well which is required We've also created new mapping the original mapping in the 427 00:31:16,24 --> 00:31:17,32 old L.W. R.P. 428 00:31:17,42 --> 00:31:18,14 It was done in 429 00:31:18,15 --> 00:31:22,22 a time when we didn't have computers and we didn't have artists and they're very 430 00:31:22,23 --> 00:31:26,75 hard to read and they're they're outdated so we have all the brain mapping there 431 00:31:27,13 --> 00:31:31,47 actually eighteen new maps that address all the issues that we're dealing with in 432 00:31:31,48 --> 00:31:37,58 the all that we want peace. And that's pretty much it. Thank you thanks you and 433 00:31:37,59 --> 00:31:43,76 thanks to that that history certainly has been I recall correctly about twenty four 434 00:31:43,77 --> 00:31:50,74 years. Since the last updated you know that. That the three 435 00:31:50,75 --> 00:31:56,17 towns have been coming together and trying to move us along I give credit to 436 00:31:56,42 --> 00:32:01,35 certainly to yourself and to watch ironic point that really have to have done 437 00:32:01,77 --> 00:32:06,89 a lot of the work on that and our friends to the north of us are trying to play 438 00:32:06,90 --> 00:32:11,63 a little catch up but hopefully they get they get there as well because I think 439 00:32:11,64 --> 00:32:16,91 it's important that it all it all finally comes to mind finally comes together so. 440 00:32:18,05 --> 00:32:24,43 At this point all open it up to the board for any questions or comments 441 00:32:25,42 --> 00:32:30,98 you know board that we've been talking about this for the last several months and 442 00:32:31,44 --> 00:32:37,88 has been keeping us apprised of his progress Mr Rob Morris been our 443 00:32:37,89 --> 00:32:43,97 liaison to to this process as well so any any initial 444 00:32:44,39 --> 00:32:49,27 questions. Comments for Mr Costello at this time before we open it up to. 445 00:32:51,33 --> 00:32:56,93 The public I would just comment in addition to the maps figures that are included 446 00:32:56,94 --> 00:33:03,10 in the plan include our cut plan from two thousand and ten as well as I believe 447 00:33:03,33 --> 00:33:08,44 some recommendations regarding Allison parks the master plan related Elson park so 448 00:33:08,45 --> 00:33:10,85 this is a another example of us 449 00:33:10,90 --> 00:33:17,62 a smaller. More concise plan that works in conjunction with our other plans within 450 00:33:17,63 --> 00:33:21,77 the town for those have been looked at and reviewed to make sure this conforms with 451 00:33:21,78 --> 00:33:26,68 recommendations that the public had made with respect to the comp plan and other 452 00:33:26,69 --> 00:33:33,12 plans That's correct. I also want to note that we have had. I'm sorry we've had 453 00:33:33,13 --> 00:33:37,50 a local water from realization plan update on the Web site it's easy to get to you 454 00:33:37,51 --> 00:33:43,75 can go to quickly if you get on line at the. Org click links and then hit 455 00:33:44,33 --> 00:33:50,79 your P. And it will pop up it's there for all of us. Just give us 456 00:33:50,80 --> 00:33:55,75 a section of court documents and you know back before I was out of town board 457 00:33:56,14 --> 00:34:00,65 Revitalization Committee for the waterfront back in the regional That's right and 458 00:34:01,13 --> 00:34:06,88 you have sewers back then. And then I mean it's area. 459 00:34:08,36 --> 00:34:10,07 Trying to bring it back and have 460 00:34:10,08 --> 00:34:16,03 a document to support getting grant money. For the revitalization it's very 461 00:34:16,04 --> 00:34:20,75 important to keep it up to date I think is I think a smart move to make in 462 00:34:20,76 --> 00:34:26,52 a smaller because back then we were we were concerned with areas that really in the 463 00:34:26,53 --> 00:34:31,20 end wasn't part of the waterfront it was pretty expansive it's funny because 464 00:34:31,21 --> 00:34:35,81 sanitary story of that time is one of the main recommendations. Because of the 465 00:34:35,82 --> 00:34:40,64 album your people were able to secure funding to allow that to occur has been 466 00:34:40,65 --> 00:34:42,70 a good program to the town of Penfield we've received 467 00:34:42,71 --> 00:34:44,87 a lot of grant money for it but we've done 468 00:34:44,88 --> 00:34:48,55 a lot of nice things down there to try and bring what was at one time an industrial 469 00:34:48,66 --> 00:34:53,21 area exactly back to something that can all be proud of this important time and I 470 00:34:53,22 --> 00:34:59,31 think to. Tell him what Linda saying to make it more concise you know my review of 471 00:34:59,35 --> 00:35:05,28 the prior plan versus now the summary and where we're at now with that proposed is 472 00:35:05,29 --> 00:35:10,09 that you're not only confining the area so that when it comes to grants and 473 00:35:10,10 --> 00:35:16,02 approvals you really focusing on what is absolutely necessary and what is also 474 00:35:16,03 --> 00:35:21,15 recommended but also you're not constraining landowners who may have been 475 00:35:21,23 --> 00:35:27,05 a part of the plan that it's not necessary for them to be constrained in that way 476 00:35:27,19 --> 00:35:30,75 it was it was probably. For them because they had to fill out additional paperwork 477 00:35:30,76 --> 00:35:34,71 that was difficult to do on their own and certainly I spent many hours with people 478 00:35:34,72 --> 00:35:39,48 trying to fill out long documents that you know technically it's better for them 479 00:35:39,49 --> 00:35:46,12 now they're not involved in this situation. Thank goodness we survived with some 480 00:35:46,48 --> 00:35:53,21 comments. Good. To see you know their comments at this time let's 481 00:35:53,40 --> 00:35:59,13 open it up to to the audience is there anyone that signed up Amy to speak to this 482 00:35:59,14 --> 00:36:05,28 particular matter yes Carrie. Again Welcome Carrie 483 00:36:05,91 --> 00:36:11,38 thank you good evening. I need to give my address for the record no I think it's 484 00:36:12,06 --> 00:36:17,06 the chant of ironic way to address it's fifteen pensioners circle Penfield New York 485 00:36:17,07 --> 00:36:20,50 actually. I could do 486 00:36:20,51 --> 00:36:26,87 a job. Yes So I get to wear two hats I'm a resident of the town of Penfield and 487 00:36:26,88 --> 00:36:31,57 a planning and zoning director or administrator sees me and I'm running quite And 488 00:36:31,58 --> 00:36:38,39 so I understand ps benefits from both the perspective of the resident and also 489 00:36:38,89 --> 00:36:39,71 as a as 490 00:36:39,72 --> 00:36:45,45 a planner so I just wanted to speak really briefly to support the town's adoption 491 00:36:45,46 --> 00:36:49,84 of this plan of the update it's really critical to have current documents to have 492 00:36:49,85 --> 00:36:55,56 current planning policies and guides that reflect up did information about 493 00:36:56,07 --> 00:37:00,43 environmental conditions and economic development and development priorities and 494 00:37:00,44 --> 00:37:05,62 needs and I think this document does that really well the revised boundary makes 495 00:37:05,63 --> 00:37:06,41 a lot of sense for 496 00:37:06,42 --> 00:37:11,95 a lot of different reasons and that's all I really wanted to say was just. To thank 497 00:37:11,96 --> 00:37:17,69 the town for taking up the update and carrying it through and hopefully adopting it 498 00:37:18,27 --> 00:37:25,10 as it stands tall THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Kerry. Sure 499 00:37:25,11 --> 00:37:30,39 anyone else OK sure anyone in the audience. That would like to address this 500 00:37:30,45 --> 00:37:33,47 particular item P update. 501 00:37:37,20 --> 00:37:42,40 OK. Scene board any additional comments. 502 00:37:44,28 --> 00:37:50,90 Or questions. Mr Costello any anything additional that you would like to add to the 503 00:37:50,91 --> 00:37:55,26 record that you did not include in your original code the only thing I'd like to 504 00:37:55,27 --> 00:37:59,04 add is the fact that we are currently working with the Monroe County plan 505 00:37:59,05 --> 00:38:00,60 a department of the thirty nine M. 506 00:38:00,61 --> 00:38:05,43 Review and you know the board obviously can't take any action until we see that 507 00:38:05,44 --> 00:38:09,61 document and address any concerns that are with then it will certainly do that once 508 00:38:09,62 --> 00:38:14,91 we receive it and I will also note that the Department of State was the only other 509 00:38:14,92 --> 00:38:18,05 agency that was involved in the review process under Seeker was 510 00:38:18,06 --> 00:38:20,10 a court need to review process we did receive 511 00:38:20,11 --> 00:38:23,87 a letter from them indicating that they did not want to be the lead agency in this 512 00:38:23,88 --> 00:38:27,41 project and that they recommend that the board be the lead agency as it was the 513 00:38:27,42 --> 00:38:33,46 only other agency involved. With that on the record. OK. 514 00:38:35,05 --> 00:38:41,28 Great thank you again similar to the last A public hearing the next opportunity or 515 00:38:41,29 --> 00:38:45,27 the earliest opportunity to discuss this will be at our work session that is on the 516 00:38:45,28 --> 00:38:50,71 twenty eighth my guess is that because there are still some outstanding I'm 517 00:38:50,72 --> 00:38:56,52 specifically two thirty nine am and you know any other items maybe 518 00:38:56,53 --> 00:39:01,63 a couple of weeks before we're ready to bring that to the agenda and to the table 519 00:39:02,28 --> 00:39:09,24 but again we'll keep an eye on the agenda on the website Penfield dot org see no 520 00:39:09,25 --> 00:39:15,89 further comments I'll declare this public care hearing closed and will continue 521 00:39:15,90 --> 00:39:19,32 on with our agenda and will be 522 00:39:19,33 --> 00:39:25,99 a communications announcements and I'll first recognize our town clerk Thank you Mr 523 00:39:26,00 --> 00:39:31,28 Supervisor. In reference. To information pertaining to public hearings and 524 00:39:31,29 --> 00:39:34,32 properties under review a reminder that there is 525 00:39:34,33 --> 00:39:39,54 a dedicated link on the town's home page for the town or agendas and the public 526 00:39:39,55 --> 00:39:45,60 hearings for residents homeowners associations and other research details of the 527 00:39:45,61 --> 00:39:50,32 meetings we will continue to send a postcard notifications as 528 00:39:50,33 --> 00:39:56,71 a courtesy to neighborhoods affected by future applications I do want to mention to 529 00:39:56,72 --> 00:40:01,95 everyone that recently the town of Penfield earned top ranking among the municipal 530 00:40:01,96 --> 00:40:03,76 websites in New York state and 531 00:40:03,77 --> 00:40:08,29 a report that was put out by the vampire Center for Public Policy and the town's 532 00:40:08,30 --> 00:40:13,46 website has become an essential part of daily business and is used regularly by our 533 00:40:13,47 --> 00:40:19,13 residents in the general public. And I'd like to mention that in partnership with 534 00:40:19,14 --> 00:40:24,65 minor county the next pass part port night will be held April fourteenth from five 535 00:40:24,66 --> 00:40:26,18 thirty to seven thirty P.M. 536 00:40:26,19 --> 00:40:30,31 At the Town Hall and stay tuned for more information as we get closer to the day 537 00:40:30,83 --> 00:40:31,22 thank you. 538 00:40:37,83 --> 00:40:42,90 Squint Thank you Mr Supervisor just one quick announcement and A R P tax aide will 539 00:40:42,92 --> 00:40:47,72 be offering free income tax preparation to low and middle income taxpayers from 540 00:40:47,74 --> 00:40:52,43 Penn field with special attention to those sixty and older at the community center 541 00:40:52,47 --> 00:40:56,06 one nine hundred eighty five faired road the service will be available by 542 00:40:56,07 --> 00:41:01,32 appointment only on Wednesday mornings February fourth through April eight please 543 00:41:01,34 --> 00:41:06,24 call three four zero eight six five five and select option six to make an 544 00:41:06,25 --> 00:41:11,13 appointment Thank you. I have just one announcement tonight the pencil heritage 545 00:41:11,14 --> 00:41:16,60 associations next program people in Penn fields past and now will be held Sunday 546 00:41:16,61 --> 00:41:20,00 January twenty fifth from two thirty to four P.M. 547 00:41:20,01 --> 00:41:24,62 In the Braman room at the library who are those brave people who made Penfield what 548 00:41:24,63 --> 00:41:27,51 it is today the heritage So CA Sion will take you back 549 00:41:27,52 --> 00:41:31,51 a few hundred years that some of the movers and shakers will actually share their 550 00:41:31,52 --> 00:41:36,68 stories for more information please visit the library dot org We certainly thank 551 00:41:36,69 --> 00:41:40,97 the librarian Herod's Association and like to thank my mother Jean Casey for 552 00:41:40,98 --> 00:41:45,49 helping to coordinate that program once again for their association Thank you. 553 00:41:46,77 --> 00:41:51,13 Thank you Mr Supervisor please mark your calendars the Penfield trails committee 554 00:41:51,30 --> 00:41:56,76 annual hiker's Gymboree will be held on Saturday Feb fourteenth at ten am at the 555 00:41:56,77 --> 00:42:02,09 Penfield town hall the public is invited to come and learn about all the programs 556 00:42:02,15 --> 00:42:07,04 in the greater Rochester area at this free event all groups in the Rochester area 557 00:42:07,05 --> 00:42:11,53 that will host hiking programs in two thousand and fifteen are invited to 558 00:42:11,54 --> 00:42:16,21 participate to meet the public and to promote their individual programs groups 559 00:42:16,22 --> 00:42:21,45 wishing to participate can call Penfield recreation three four zero eight six five 560 00:42:21,46 --> 00:42:27,69 five extension six. Also Penfield recreations deer program and its daytime 561 00:42:27,70 --> 00:42:33,13 education recreation has another unique and exciting fundraiser coming up on 562 00:42:33,14 --> 00:42:35,93 Thursday February twelfth it is 563 00:42:35,97 --> 00:42:41,73 a masterpiece gala which includes an arts in art auction in 564 00:42:41,74 --> 00:42:45,11 a mystery dinner the event kicks off at six P.M. 565 00:42:45,12 --> 00:42:50,76 With an art exhibit in appetizers followed by dinner at seven P.M. Then eight P.M. 566 00:42:50,80 --> 00:42:51,14 There will be 567 00:42:51,15 --> 00:42:56,98 a live auction where the masterpiece inspired game comes to life or start with 568 00:42:56,99 --> 00:43:01,21 a masterpiece inspired game comes to life for more details and information about 569 00:43:01,22 --> 00:43:06,46 how to participate please see the new Penfield winter spring brochure page thirty 570 00:43:06,47 --> 00:43:08,08 five which contains 571 00:43:08,09 --> 00:43:13,70 a complete write up of this unique opportunity or visit Penfield Rock dot org Thank 572 00:43:13,71 --> 00:43:20,24 you. So last night I had my first community chat of the year my next one will be in 573 00:43:20,25 --> 00:43:25,22 February I'll be Tuesday February seventeenth from five to seven new book Area 574 00:43:25,58 --> 00:43:30,60 library in my second announcement is the pedophile school district Penfield 575 00:43:30,61 --> 00:43:33,40 recreation and the east side Family Y.M.C.A. 576 00:43:33,74 --> 00:43:38,66 Working together to offer an after school program for students grades kindergarten 577 00:43:38,70 --> 00:43:43,43 through fifth grade unscheduled half day of school on Friday January thirtieth 578 00:43:43,94 --> 00:43:48,52 busing will be provided for your child's school to Bay Trail middle school where 579 00:43:48,53 --> 00:43:52,77 the program will be held children participating should bring their lunch to school 580 00:43:52,78 --> 00:43:56,97 and the afternoon snack will be provided the program fee is fifteen dollars per 581 00:43:56,98 --> 00:44:03,40 child and parent pickup is until six pm register your child today it Penfield org 582 00:44:04,03 --> 00:44:10,85 That's it thank you. OK very good move on to public 583 00:44:10,86 --> 00:44:15,89 participation there are two opportunities to address the board on any matter at 584 00:44:15,90 --> 00:44:20,26 this time and then again at the end of the meeting you can do that one of three 585 00:44:20,27 --> 00:44:25,62 ways if you're here in the audience we'll get to those that signed in first those 586 00:44:25,63 --> 00:44:30,54 that did not sign in that or that are here will be then given the opportunity to 587 00:44:30,55 --> 00:44:37,41 speak after that you can also call in at three four zero eight seven seven one or 588 00:44:37,42 --> 00:44:40,40 you can log on to Penfield dot org And you can get 589 00:44:40,41 --> 00:44:46,39 a message right up here so with that I'll ask our clerk to read those names that 590 00:44:46,40 --> 00:44:47,55 have signed up to speak. 591 00:44:59,07 --> 00:45:03,76 Happy New Year and the New Year to you thank you Bob Reid to seventy five party 592 00:45:03,77 --> 00:45:08,33 drive and I'm here tonight as they usually end to talk about the Baker Commodities 593 00:45:08,34 --> 00:45:10,36 if you. Were 594 00:45:10,40 --> 00:45:16,82 a couple of months past the. Three months past the public information meeting no. 595 00:45:17,90 --> 00:45:23,70 Two months and were were interested in knowing if you've made progress with Mr 596 00:45:23,71 --> 00:45:28,54 D'Amato on an action list of issues that came out of that meeting I have some other 597 00:45:28,55 --> 00:45:30,53 things to talk about but I would like to pause for 598 00:45:30,54 --> 00:45:33,50 a minute more than happy to comment it's been 599 00:45:33,51 --> 00:45:37,74 a couple weeks since I've last spoken with D.C. 600 00:45:38,11 --> 00:45:43,04 I know that they were working on a number of items as 601 00:45:43,05 --> 00:45:47,56 a result of the public hearing I know that they were and have been in regular 602 00:45:47,57 --> 00:45:53,26 contact with Baker Baker and indicated at that meeting that they were going to be 603 00:45:53,51 --> 00:45:58,69 they had ordered and they were going to be receiving some new equipment so I know 604 00:45:58,70 --> 00:45:59,16 D.C. 605 00:45:59,17 --> 00:46:03,57 Has been having conversations with them as I said Bob I have not spoken to him and 606 00:46:03,75 --> 00:46:05,47 in the last couple weeks I know that 607 00:46:06,39 --> 00:46:12,82 a note that I responded I think to Tim Murphy. Around November sixth he said that 608 00:46:12,89 --> 00:46:19,81 we'd hoped to have more information by about mid. January so 609 00:46:20,37 --> 00:46:25,14 we're at that time frame. Although I'll certainly make it 610 00:46:25,15 --> 00:46:29,95 a point over the next couple of days to reach out to. Mr tomato's office and see 611 00:46:29,96 --> 00:46:34,15 where things are at that end OK and you have sort of 612 00:46:34,16 --> 00:46:37,74 a punch list of things that came out of the meeting that you want to discuss with 613 00:46:37,75 --> 00:46:43,99 him and OK good we would like to see some progress on that and I have not certainly 614 00:46:44,00 --> 00:46:49,52 have not forgotten about that and I know that when I did last speak they were 615 00:46:49,53 --> 00:46:49,99 looking at 616 00:46:50,00 --> 00:46:55,12 a number of things including I think is they've mentioned that public information 617 00:46:55,13 --> 00:47:01,55 meeting. You know some. Updates or amendments or whatever the proper 618 00:47:01,56 --> 00:47:05,94 terminology was permitted selves I know that they have been looking at 619 00:47:06,22 --> 00:47:12,69 a lot of that activity. You know that we're interested in seeing that the 620 00:47:13,02 --> 00:47:16,28 air is tested over the plant and in our neighborhood we feel that's 621 00:47:16,29 --> 00:47:21,08 a major issue and we hope that will be addressed we thought that the neighbor Lydia 622 00:47:21,18 --> 00:47:26,99 Palmer made a wonderful suggestion Alrighty. Sponsors I guess 623 00:47:27,00 --> 00:47:31,51 a pollution prevention Institute and you already received this in an in an e-mail 624 00:47:31,56 --> 00:47:34,80 and Mr D'Amato is on the board there and we think that's 625 00:47:34,81 --> 00:47:39,72 a terrific university town neighborhood partnership that could lead to testing that 626 00:47:39,73 --> 00:47:44,70 might not be too expensive. And you know that we're hoping for 627 00:47:44,71 --> 00:47:51,18 a more rapid response to other complaints rather than. Just waiting for the plant 628 00:47:51,19 --> 00:47:54,52 manager to respond say there was a problem or there wasn't 629 00:47:54,53 --> 00:48:01,06 a problem but some kind of more more rapid and effective regulatory 630 00:48:01,07 --> 00:48:05,10 response to order complaints we kind of feel at the moment and in the past it's 631 00:48:05,11 --> 00:48:11,98 been the honor system you know. We go with what the plant manager says is wrong or 632 00:48:11,99 --> 00:48:16,13 isn't wrong and that's it and nobody really checks up except perhaps once 633 00:48:16,14 --> 00:48:20,03 a year in the past anyway once a year when the D.C. 634 00:48:20,04 --> 00:48:26,77 Visits and looks at the records. And I know I know Mr D'Amato when the amount of 635 00:48:26,78 --> 00:48:33,43 when he was here to indicated that. There was going to be more regular reviews 636 00:48:33,44 --> 00:48:39,54 discussions and follow up with me he see and I would and I would expect that as 637 00:48:39,55 --> 00:48:43,27 they come back with some of their follow up we might learn 638 00:48:43,28 --> 00:48:49,33 a little bit more what that means by regularity as we go through on the subject of 639 00:48:49,34 --> 00:48:49,93 the D.E.C. 640 00:48:49,94 --> 00:48:55,51 And Mr D'Amato. It was wonderful to see Mr Quinn stand up at the public information 641 00:48:55,52 --> 00:49:01,59 meeting and and chide Mr D'Amato for his response to the to your request that he 642 00:49:01,75 --> 00:49:05,55 reevaluate Baker's compliance with state permit it was 643 00:49:05,56 --> 00:49:07,97 a wonderful thing but there is 644 00:49:07,98 --> 00:49:12,23 a town permit that needs to be refined reevaluated and which the town has 645 00:49:12,24 --> 00:49:14,20 apparently up to this point not taking 646 00:49:14,21 --> 00:49:19,81 a close look at the non-conforming use permit that Baker got when they purchased 647 00:49:19,82 --> 00:49:24,74 the plant from. The staff and that corporation in the in the early one nine hundred 648 00:49:24,75 --> 00:49:25,27 eighty S. 649 00:49:25,27 --> 00:49:31,95 . That's something in the town's purview and we know that it limits Baker's 650 00:49:32,04 --> 00:49:38,54 operation to the size and scope of the staff and that company and all reasonable 651 00:49:39,42 --> 00:49:46,32 opinion suggests that they've greatly expanded the operation we don't have facts 652 00:49:46,33 --> 00:49:52,13 and figures and and as you recall when Mr Burns asked Bill Schneider the plant 653 00:49:52,14 --> 00:49:56,36 manager at the public information meeting how much tonnage they process you know he 654 00:49:56,37 --> 00:50:01,44 said I can't tell you that I don't know exactly where the proprietary information 655 00:50:01,45 --> 00:50:07,58 or it's confidential but. We're pretty sure that the plant is way oversized and 656 00:50:08,01 --> 00:50:11,06 from what's happened background and that could be an aspect of why we're having 657 00:50:11,07 --> 00:50:16,24 more odors more stuff going in. Texas the order of eight minute Quitman. 658 00:50:18,27 --> 00:50:22,25 And we're not suggesting that they should be shut down because they're in violation 659 00:50:22,26 --> 00:50:27,23 of their permit but that the permit needs to be reexamined the way you reexamined 660 00:50:27,24 --> 00:50:29,62 the local waterfront reevaluation 661 00:50:29,76 --> 00:50:35,37 a revival of it is ation plan and upgraded and other town ordinances and and issues 662 00:50:35,72 --> 00:50:41,52 needs to be reevaluated updated and. If they're going to be allowed to operate at 663 00:50:41,53 --> 00:50:46,94 a hugely expanded scope and serve all of western and central New York and we've 664 00:50:46,95 --> 00:50:50,82 said that they do an important service to Western and sent central New York and 665 00:50:50,83 --> 00:50:55,58 processing this stuff then there needs to be adequate control for what they do and 666 00:50:55,59 --> 00:51:00,31 adequate follow up when they don't do it well they need to be consequences we 667 00:51:00,32 --> 00:51:04,36 talked about fines and sanctions so those things are very very important to us. 668 00:51:09,49 --> 00:51:12,39 Now in July the neighborhood presented 669 00:51:12,40 --> 00:51:18,05 a petition to the board with one hundred thirty or so signatures on it seven points 670 00:51:18,19 --> 00:51:20,46 and. We've yet to get 671 00:51:20,47 --> 00:51:23,59 a written response from the board we haven't actually asked for 672 00:51:23,60 --> 00:51:28,28 a written response we've talked about some of the issues but it was 673 00:51:28,29 --> 00:51:33,04 a formal document and and we would like to see a formal response I have sent you 674 00:51:33,05 --> 00:51:38,14 a couple of e-mails on that Tony and I haven't heard back from you on either one I 675 00:51:38,15 --> 00:51:44,65 soon that you got them I know there were some computer issues with the town but we 676 00:51:44,66 --> 00:51:45,23 would like to see 677 00:51:45,24 --> 00:51:51,14 a formal response to the petition. And we feel it's very briefly six of those 678 00:51:51,15 --> 00:51:56,95 elements that the survey needs to be done of all the surrounding neighborhoods. To 679 00:51:56,96 --> 00:52:00,66 ascertain the real level of the problem and we have 680 00:52:00,67 --> 00:52:04,24 a relatively small reporting group it would also provide 681 00:52:04,78 --> 00:52:07,41 a way to touch base with people to establish 682 00:52:07,66 --> 00:52:11,79 a much larger reporting group so we really know what's what how the plant is 683 00:52:11,80 --> 00:52:18,06 affecting people now and in the future. The testing we've already talked about 684 00:52:18,59 --> 00:52:22,92 a truly outside expert evaluation and not by S.E.P. 685 00:52:22,93 --> 00:52:24,44 Control and 686 00:52:24,45 --> 00:52:31,06 a thorough one that needs to be done. The not conforming is permit reevaluation 687 00:52:31,46 --> 00:52:37,61 and the the publication of the secret agreement between the town of Penfield in one 688 00:52:37,62 --> 00:52:43,59 thousand nine hundred nine and Baker Commodities we feel those things need to be 689 00:52:43,60 --> 00:52:49,24 addressed and if. You don't feel that any of these things should be accomplished 690 00:52:49,32 --> 00:52:56,26 then we'd like to see your reasons and I think that's fair. To go back 691 00:52:56,27 --> 00:53:03,04 to your e-mail to Tim Murphy that you referred to. The issues that 692 00:53:03,25 --> 00:53:08,04 you hope to hear from Mr D'Amato on one of them was new equipment from Baker I 693 00:53:08,05 --> 00:53:13,65 think you also mentioned something about record keeping. Can you elaborate on that 694 00:53:13,66 --> 00:53:19,23 at all. Something going to change with record keeping for Baker or whether 695 00:53:19,24 --> 00:53:23,74 residence in the way we report order to play I don't I don't recall. 696 00:53:26,26 --> 00:53:31,14 You know changing you know that formatting mean that we design or stand at the 697 00:53:31,15 --> 00:53:37,59 format still is that if there is an order that gets sent in to Baker and it's 698 00:53:37,60 --> 00:53:41,12 a you know pretty broad or or 699 00:53:41,13 --> 00:53:47,95 a number of different dots on that on that list so I didn't I didn't 700 00:53:47,96 --> 00:53:54,13 recall that being changed modified but I do recall some discussions that 701 00:53:54,88 --> 00:54:00,36 the CME Baker have had as as far as some records that they keep or. 702 00:54:01,96 --> 00:54:07,46 Either either expanding or or adding to some of the records that they keep I do 703 00:54:07,47 --> 00:54:12,19 recall that I mean I have to go back and check my notes in more detail but I 704 00:54:12,20 --> 00:54:17,26 believe that that was one of the things that that model had made 705 00:54:17,27 --> 00:54:18,24 a recommendation or 706 00:54:18,25 --> 00:54:25,06 a comment on is that providing some additional. Information. And details on the 707 00:54:25,07 --> 00:54:30,26 record keeping OK your e-mail just used the word record keeping in the context of 708 00:54:30,50 --> 00:54:35,32 some new issues that might be coming along and looking back originally in the 709 00:54:35,33 --> 00:54:39,49 eighty's when we had problems there was a link the D.E.C. 710 00:54:39,50 --> 00:54:39,71 Owed 711 00:54:39,72 --> 00:54:46,04 a report form that we were supposed to fill out. For each order complaint kind of 712 00:54:46,05 --> 00:54:50,19 an onerous burden and if you wanted to report directly to the plant you had to call 713 00:54:50,20 --> 00:54:53,24 the answering machine and the answering machine was 714 00:54:53,25 --> 00:54:59,66 a link the. He's of questions you know right and we rather we want good information 715 00:54:59,67 --> 00:55:02,82 but we don't want to go back we don't want to make it any harder for people to 716 00:55:02,83 --> 00:55:09,35 report order but of problems than it already is. So I know that there's there's 717 00:55:09,36 --> 00:55:16,06 been one just recently that that was reported and. To the best of my 718 00:55:16,07 --> 00:55:22,94 knowledge that that got reported in through the way that it has been. And you know 719 00:55:22,95 --> 00:55:28,07 so to the best of my knowledge that has not changed at all so that doesn't require 720 00:55:28,08 --> 00:55:32,54 a lengthy. Voicemail to the plant it's just 721 00:55:32,55 --> 00:55:36,17 a blast note that goes out that is copied into 722 00:55:36,18 --> 00:55:41,60 a number of folks see this Ford. Baker commodity and 723 00:55:41,87 --> 00:55:48,87 a number of neighbors that that are on the list OK good. Where we 724 00:55:48,88 --> 00:55:54,61 are right now as we've seen an improvement over the two worst years that we've had 725 00:55:55,58 --> 00:56:01,80 in January we had three other complaints. In twenty fourteen we had eight in two 726 00:56:01,81 --> 00:56:07,68 thousand and thirteen we had eight. That looks like quite an improvement but when 727 00:56:07,69 --> 00:56:13,84 you smell it in January. You know it's very powerful that there's 728 00:56:13,85 --> 00:56:19,85 a lot of effluent there because the nose doesn't work very well in January. In the 729 00:56:19,86 --> 00:56:24,18 cold weather. In two thousand and twelve we had zero in two thousand and eleven we 730 00:56:24,19 --> 00:56:29,41 had one in January in two thousand and ten we had only two. So we've seen an 731 00:56:29,42 --> 00:56:34,79 improvement over the worst pollution abuses that we've experienced but we don't 732 00:56:34,80 --> 00:56:41,78 think that we've completely turned the corner we don't. We want improvement but 733 00:56:41,79 --> 00:56:46,75 not just to the improvement of twenty eleven or twenty ten or twenty nine the 734 00:56:46,76 --> 00:56:51,08 benchmark that we're looking for is much closer to what we had between one thousand 735 00:56:51,09 --> 00:56:54,82 nine hundred eighty seven and the end of two thousand and four and that was 736 00:56:54,83 --> 00:57:01,72 a zero complaints. I'm not sure if we'll ever get to that point 737 00:57:01,98 --> 00:57:05,80 but that's what we should be aiming at and if they could do it for that period of 738 00:57:05,81 --> 00:57:12,34 time. They can do it now and I have to say that for the first three years ninety 739 00:57:12,35 --> 00:57:18,65 seven to two thousand we were ready to jump on them for anything because that year 740 00:57:18,66 --> 00:57:23,19 ninety six had been so horrible you know you remember what happened in ninety six 741 00:57:23,20 --> 00:57:27,10 you were on the board at that time and this room was filled with angry residents 742 00:57:27,11 --> 00:57:32,15 over the problem. So we were and the promise then was that they would get new 743 00:57:32,16 --> 00:57:37,69 equipment and they would fix it and things would get better and they did OK but for 744 00:57:37,70 --> 00:57:42,68 those first three years we were ready to jump on anything and there was nothing to 745 00:57:42,69 --> 00:57:48,54 jump on OK so if they could do it for three years. And then and then another five 746 00:57:49,56 --> 00:57:53,56 they can do it now or come much closer to it we're getting three hundred complaints 747 00:57:53,57 --> 00:58:00,09 in January very much worried about July June July and August. So 748 00:58:00,82 --> 00:58:07,68 I only recall scene one in January so. At have the others of the others hit 749 00:58:07,69 --> 00:58:14,62 that bride at that broad distribution. And I realize they've all been. Talking in 750 00:58:14,63 --> 00:58:18,97 terms that it may be one incident but more than one match so that would be three 751 00:58:19,08 --> 00:58:23,59 like say one day three residents can I think they were two days and three residents 752 00:58:23,77 --> 00:58:30,60 OK OK. You call an incident on December I want to say it was around the twenty 753 00:58:30,82 --> 00:58:36,88 sixth of December if I recall correctly. And I 754 00:58:37,00 --> 00:58:41,25 recall one in January I mean I'll go back and take 755 00:58:41,26 --> 00:58:45,32 a look but those are the only two that I recall and of end of year and beginning of 756 00:58:45,33 --> 00:58:51,75 this year. Yeah sure to develop them twenty six and I don't have the top of my head 757 00:58:51,76 --> 00:58:56,12 what that other day was in January right but I'm just talking about January three 758 00:58:56,83 --> 00:59:01,77 three complaints and I'll be glad to send them to you again if you like but we have 759 00:59:01,78 --> 00:59:01,93 had 760 00:59:01,94 --> 00:59:08,18 a discrepancy in the past between your numbers and mine at least. I think you cited 761 00:59:08,19 --> 00:59:12,49 one hundred fifty nine Well I think I think over the difference I think where the 762 00:59:12,50 --> 00:59:15,78 difference is Bob is that we take 763 00:59:15,79 --> 00:59:19,50 a look at the number of days and you take 764 00:59:19,51 --> 00:59:26,26 a look so if you have helped one day one person that small that versus 765 00:59:26,27 --> 00:59:30,87 one day and ten people that's not what. We count two different days you count 766 00:59:30,91 --> 00:59:35,96 a lot of an incidence. I mean that's that's that's where that we're interested in 767 00:59:35,97 --> 00:59:39,76 how many people have been affected and that's simply the number of days but you're 768 00:59:39,77 --> 00:59:44,71 right there's two different ways of looking at it. And say say we have 769 00:59:44,72 --> 00:59:49,39 a relatively small reporting group you know you need to reach out with that survey 770 00:59:49,69 --> 00:59:53,86 to all the neighbors at the plant on the other side of the creek as well as on our 771 00:59:53,87 --> 01:00:00,53 side. That's just about all I have to say but if you want to come back 772 01:00:01,01 --> 01:00:01,70 can I expect 773 01:00:01,71 --> 01:00:06,83 a written response from the board on the petition we will we will have 774 01:00:06,84 --> 01:00:12,79 a conversation and we'll follow up with something in writing to you OK and to the 775 01:00:12,80 --> 01:00:16,68 committee and you know all the members of the neighborhood I do good thank you and 776 01:00:16,69 --> 01:00:23,17 Bob I have my meal Ousterhout from Baker responding to January ninth of 777 01:00:23,22 --> 01:00:28,32 January fourteenth and in January fifteenth so that would be three within you know 778 01:00:28,33 --> 01:00:31,46 and I but the fourteenth and fifteenth might have been an overlap in terms of 779 01:00:31,78 --> 01:00:35,54 people's And one of the days he responded on I believe there wasn't 780 01:00:35,55 --> 01:00:41,33 a note of complaint. I have to look at the records myself but one day he was saying 781 01:00:41,39 --> 01:00:44,44 actually that the one day he said there was a problem that they had 782 01:00:44,45 --> 01:00:47,12 a shutdown of the thermal oxidizer I believe was 783 01:00:47,13 --> 01:00:50,32 a day when we didn't have an order complaint and that was the fifteenth and the 784 01:00:50,33 --> 01:00:54,02 other two other complaints or the other two days if there were other two other days 785 01:00:54,02 --> 01:00:59,85 . Everything down there was running normally according to Neil. So. 786 01:01:01,68 --> 01:01:05,49 But we were glad to hear from him but I don't know I don't think there was any 787 01:01:05,50 --> 01:01:06,87 follow up from the D.C. 788 01:01:06,88 --> 01:01:10,51 And I don't know that anybody from the town goes down there to look at the records 789 01:01:10,52 --> 01:01:14,13 and the equipment and things like that is something that has to change I think. 790 01:01:15,45 --> 01:01:22,27 Thank you thank you. Our next speaker is I know the 791 01:01:22,28 --> 01:01:28,79 next speaker that signed up not happen to be in our audience right now OK so then 792 01:01:29,05 --> 01:01:35,16 that makes it real easy so then we move on to those that would like to address the 793 01:01:35,17 --> 01:01:38,42 point but did not sign up and so I would take that with 794 01:01:38,43 --> 01:01:42,72 a show of hands and go through their seats to Murphy never want like number number 795 01:01:42,73 --> 01:01:48,28 two. And then number three so let's start with Mr Murphy. 796 01:02:04,43 --> 01:02:08,33 Good evening Mr Supervisor town board Happy New Year to Murphy I live it forty 797 01:02:08,34 --> 01:02:12,60 eight kernel drive I had a couple of comments and observations and then 798 01:02:12,61 --> 01:02:19,10 a couple of questions first just to pick up on Mr Reed. You know I read your column 799 01:02:19,11 --> 01:02:23,03 Mr Supervisor almost every week and you know there's normally some really good 800 01:02:23,04 --> 01:02:28,29 information in there but I do recall that we've never seen anything about the Baker 801 01:02:28,30 --> 01:02:32,80 Commodities issue and I don't know if that's purposeful or not but it's my 802 01:02:32,81 --> 01:02:36,18 observation is you know that's one of the mouth pieces the town board has to 803 01:02:36,19 --> 01:02:39,93 communicate with the community surrounding community especially since the the 804 01:02:39,94 --> 01:02:45,03 Penfield post is more regional now than it is local to Penn field so it would 805 01:02:45,04 --> 01:02:47,11 always be good to be putting information out 806 01:02:47,12 --> 01:02:51,14 a question as to what your definition of regional if right now it seems like all 807 01:02:51,15 --> 01:02:57,37 manner of county. That's the top I'm still trying to figure it out because it 808 01:02:57,57 --> 01:03:04,48 changes every week when we we get feedback from them as to when. News 809 01:03:04,49 --> 01:03:09,12 things press releases legals all of those types of things seem to be changing 810 01:03:09,13 --> 01:03:14,46 almost on a weekly basis but OK I've noticed that too so so kind of 811 01:03:14,47 --> 01:03:18,57 a negative note never seen anything in your column about the Baker Commodities 812 01:03:18,58 --> 01:03:22,93 issue on the positive side just this week we read about the initiative with the 813 01:03:22,94 --> 01:03:26,53 school district and the facility that park there wasn't 814 01:03:26,54 --> 01:03:29,74 a lot of detail there and I can imagine it's going to be hard to get buses in and 815 01:03:29,75 --> 01:03:31,93 out of there but just the fact that you're collaborating is 816 01:03:31,94 --> 01:03:36,86 a really good thing so so just to keep the record straight you will not see buses 817 01:03:36,87 --> 01:03:43,80 go in and out of there OK that that location. Is where the 818 01:03:44,12 --> 01:03:50,54 their their equivalent of grounds and facilities will be peeled off so the bus 819 01:03:50,55 --> 01:03:54,67 garage will be the bus garage and five mile line road and their grounds and 820 01:03:54,68 --> 01:04:00,93 facilities will move down to that location so there are no buses coming or going. 821 01:04:01,78 --> 01:04:07,72 Is that they've outgrown the footprint on five mile line road and transportation 822 01:04:07,73 --> 01:04:14,18 grounds and facilities can no longer. You know occupy that same space so the 823 01:04:14,19 --> 01:04:19,28 purpose of peeling off was to open up the space of the bus garage and then to 824 01:04:19,45 --> 01:04:24,69 utilize the space that we have down there and as you're well aware an empty 825 01:04:24,70 --> 01:04:30,61 building. Very quickly and one that's occupied certainly. 826 01:04:31,81 --> 01:04:35,88 You know has a better life span for that so if it ends up being 827 01:04:35,89 --> 01:04:42,35 a win win situation temporarily whatever temporarily is these days until I think 828 01:04:42,76 --> 01:04:46,13 the school district. What their plan B. 829 01:04:46,14 --> 01:04:51,62 Is but at least it buys them you know three to five years or thereabouts before 830 01:04:51,63 --> 01:04:55,93 they have to pull the trigger and can really spend any money. But thanks for the 831 01:04:55,94 --> 01:04:59,88 clarification think of taking the initiative and it makes sense because that be 832 01:04:59,89 --> 01:05:03,65 a tough in and out for anything that's oversized absolutely for sure absolutely. 833 01:05:05,05 --> 01:05:08,58 Also just just an observation I went through the Power Point back in the 834 01:05:08,59 --> 01:05:12,32 organization meeting so I couldn't be here and I did forward some questions and 835 01:05:12,36 --> 01:05:16,49 I'll give you some time to answer but one of the things that really you know on the 836 01:05:16,50 --> 01:05:18,90 very first slide you know there was 837 01:05:18,91 --> 01:05:24,07 a reference to elicit liaisons to registered homeowners associations and maybe that 838 01:05:24,08 --> 01:05:24,29 makes 839 01:05:24,30 --> 01:05:28,30 a difference the word registered but again I kind of go back to the bigger commodities 840 01:05:28,31 --> 01:05:33,67 issue if we have liaison's to different parts of the or organize community 841 01:05:33,71 --> 01:05:38,74 shouldn't we also be identifying someone specifically not just for the order issue 842 01:05:38,75 --> 01:05:43,21 at Baker Commodities But shouldn't we maybe looking at maybe having different 843 01:05:43,22 --> 01:05:47,29 members of the town board be assigned to different parts of the community as 844 01:05:47,30 --> 01:05:53,22 a point person whether it's attending meetings or. Well the like so you're right to 845 01:05:53,23 --> 01:06:00,12 the key the key phrase ology is the organized you know their years we have seen is 846 01:06:00,13 --> 01:06:06,47 many is nine or more homeowners association and currently I think we're down to 847 01:06:06,48 --> 01:06:12,13 maybe three if memory serves me correct and those are ones that specifically have 848 01:06:12,52 --> 01:06:18,85 you know asked to be on that list to receive information so. That's one you know 849 01:06:18,86 --> 01:06:24,92 whether it's three or thirty. You know we'll add to that what's happened in the 850 01:06:24,93 --> 01:06:29,95 past is that there was a specific issue so whatever that might be 851 01:06:30,27 --> 01:06:31,67 a specific issue in around 852 01:06:31,68 --> 01:06:36,06 a neighborhood the neighborhood I asked to to be on and then over 853 01:06:36,07 --> 01:06:40,83 a period of time asked to drop off because either the item was no longer of 854 01:06:40,84 --> 01:06:45,26 interest the person that was the point person moved no one else wanted to take it 855 01:06:45,27 --> 01:06:51,99 on or whatever the whatever the cases. The board really works 856 01:06:52,65 --> 01:06:59,42 you know when unison that. The board can be at or address any matter regardless 857 01:06:59,43 --> 01:07:04,22 where it is I mean we don't like some communities have it broken down into wards or 858 01:07:04,44 --> 01:07:08,46 other districts you know this board are liked it as 859 01:07:08,47 --> 01:07:13,04 a you know community why candidates and you know can address any item in any 860 01:07:13,05 --> 01:07:19,07 neighborhood or or particular business residence anything like that so any and any 861 01:07:19,08 --> 01:07:23,71 and all of us at any time could be you know part of any project or program and I 862 01:07:23,72 --> 01:07:27,63 was just like you say to him if you know of something that you'd like one of us to 863 01:07:27,64 --> 01:07:32,93 attend or you can always invite me I'm always available. Thank you for saying that 864 01:07:33,71 --> 01:07:35,48 just so we're clear to become 865 01:07:35,49 --> 01:07:39,25 a registered organized homeowners association is that something we have to dress 866 01:07:39,46 --> 01:07:46,35 with mystic loft. And we have to OK OK you know and 867 01:07:46,39 --> 01:07:53,29 you know certainly you have you know the baker. Well call the baker 868 01:07:53,34 --> 01:07:57,18 neighborhood for lack of better description but Baker neighborhood and there is you 869 01:07:57,19 --> 01:08:03,91 know some number of. E-mails and typically how we communicate you know today you 870 01:08:03,92 --> 01:08:09,82 know via e-mail so we just do blast blast e-mails out. OK well I'll follow up on 871 01:08:09,83 --> 01:08:16,65 that for sure. I wanted to ask about something that I had brought up 872 01:08:16,88 --> 01:08:20,51 prior to the start of the budget cycle or part of the budget cycle and that was 873 01:08:20,52 --> 01:08:26,72 some kind of review or report out about the outsourcing of knowing. The idea is you 874 01:08:26,73 --> 01:08:27,79 know we can think we did 875 01:08:27,80 --> 01:08:31,39 a good thing and I hope we did but the numbers usually you know helps tell the 876 01:08:31,40 --> 01:08:36,23 story so you know how many passes what were the savings what did the redeployed 877 01:08:36,24 --> 01:08:40,97 resources do instead of knowing those kind of things and I know again we're you 878 01:08:40,98 --> 01:08:46,77 know we're looking at that initiative ongoing So you know the report out is on the 879 01:08:46,78 --> 01:08:48,23 twenty eight seven P.M. 880 01:08:48,28 --> 01:08:52,60 Great Love to Love to see in the audience I will be here sir excellent report. 881 01:08:55,60 --> 01:08:58,51 Also we presented a petition and I've sent 882 01:08:58,52 --> 01:09:05,48 a couple of e-mails I got one reply. And I know it's not the end of the month but 883 01:09:05,49 --> 01:09:10,33 I wanted to take this opportunity just terribly interested in having something 884 01:09:10,34 --> 01:09:15,40 happen timely and I think you know why and honestly it doesn't matter who does it 885 01:09:15,65 --> 01:09:20,36 as long as it gets done so is there any update at this point you could share we 886 01:09:20,37 --> 01:09:26,05 still waiting on. I have not not seen anything yet from Bruce Bruce had indicated 887 01:09:26,06 --> 01:09:27,04 that he would have 888 01:09:27,05 --> 01:09:33,75 a couple of. Sketches that he would be bringing in and and presenting to us so 889 01:09:34,16 --> 01:09:37,29 I expect to have those by the end of the month that was kind of the agreed upon 890 01:09:37,30 --> 01:09:43,32 goal because the interest would be then to be able to roll that out and then to 891 01:09:43,36 --> 01:09:46,00 actually start on something in 892 01:09:46,01 --> 01:09:52,37 a timely fashion. Kind of consistent with what you would indicated being done in 893 01:09:52,38 --> 01:09:53,26 a timely in 894 01:09:53,27 --> 01:10:01,73 a timely manner OK so we'll let that play out over the next thank you. So 895 01:10:02,08 --> 01:10:06,74 there's one other thing here. So talk to us about the solar on your house. 896 01:10:09,90 --> 01:10:14,21 Well Bob could probably tell you that you know. Pretty detailed oriented guy 897 01:10:14,22 --> 01:10:19,13 project manager and I like to build things so that all kind of come together. New 898 01:10:19,15 --> 01:10:19,66 York State has 899 01:10:19,67 --> 01:10:23,41 a great program they do between that the the government the federal government the 900 01:10:23,41 --> 01:10:30,38 state and you know tax credits plus the. Rebates or incentives per watt I mean 901 01:10:30,40 --> 01:10:31,24 honestly it's 902 01:10:31,24 --> 01:10:37,06 a big number that becomes. A manageable number in for us you know we've been home 903 01:10:37,07 --> 01:10:42,17 for twenty years and I have all the graphs and all the neat stuff and I can see 904 01:10:42,18 --> 01:10:44,40 where the kids went away and believe me it makes 905 01:10:44,41 --> 01:10:48,74 a difference in your our genie bill believe me it really does and so the only the 906 01:10:48,75 --> 01:10:53,20 light honestly I kind of put them all on one time when Home Depot had 907 01:10:53,21 --> 01:10:55,59 a four dollar loss leader thing and honestly it made 908 01:10:55,60 --> 01:11:01,75 a huge difference but I'm looking forward to it because I mean what's in me is like 909 01:11:01,86 --> 01:11:06,60 I care less about the costs and just maybe just the behavior and our neighbors put 910 01:11:06,61 --> 01:11:12,32 them in and we had long talks with them in their. You know kind of the same mind 911 01:11:12,94 --> 01:11:17,85 but the pleasant surprises is that you know some of the nicer the estimates are 912 01:11:17,86 --> 01:11:22,53 very conservative so the the commercial is it's 913 01:11:22,54 --> 01:11:27,32 a good investment and if it doesn't add to the assessment of your house about it 914 01:11:27,33 --> 01:11:31,19 you know you make the kind of investment you have to pay back in the short term on 915 01:11:31,20 --> 01:11:34,92 your electric bill and then you go to sell your house and you can say hey you know 916 01:11:34,93 --> 01:11:36,72 they can tax on it that's 917 01:11:36,73 --> 01:11:41,75 a pretty good win across the board are you are you going for not zero. We use about 918 01:11:41,76 --> 01:11:43,25 seven thousand kilowatts 919 01:11:44,04 --> 01:11:48,59 a year Tony and we're sized to short of that as you know you can't go bigger than 920 01:11:48,60 --> 01:11:51,99 one hundred ten percent right because they don't want you to producing it and you 921 01:11:52,00 --> 01:11:52,61 know be 922 01:11:52,62 --> 01:11:58,18 a profit center right well the answer is yes and they also encourage better behavior 923 01:11:58,98 --> 01:12:05,64 right timers on your lights. You know insulation and all those other things that 924 01:12:05,90 --> 01:12:08,79 seem to just shorten that zero and if I take down 925 01:12:08,80 --> 01:12:15,41 a tree I think it will be there but. One of the cool things is again you know 926 01:12:15,60 --> 01:12:17,05 Mr Canal about an hour did 927 01:12:17,06 --> 01:12:22,01 a great job in the solar Pathfinder and our house is not oriented south even though 928 01:12:22,02 --> 01:12:25,48 we're in Taishan citing it's kind of one of the biggest influences you would think 929 01:12:26,27 --> 01:12:28,56 but. All you can get 930 01:12:28,57 --> 01:12:33,09 a great data capture and again kind of ran the numbers and you know it just makes 931 01:12:33,10 --> 01:12:34,78 sense financially and again 932 01:12:34,79 --> 01:12:39,33 a frugal Irishman goes for all those kind of things I'm glad to have you over in. 933 01:12:42,93 --> 01:12:47,83 I'm sure they have an interest so well let's hope more people would find 934 01:12:47,84 --> 01:12:51,23 a way other communities especially Germany if you read some of the stories over 935 01:12:51,24 --> 01:12:56,31 there you know they do it for very pragmatic reasons and again that's you know I 936 01:12:56,32 --> 01:13:01,03 ran the numbers in New York State has probably the best incentive program right now 937 01:13:01,30 --> 01:13:08,07 you wouldn't think it but so far as. That's the line. You're welcome I just 938 01:13:08,08 --> 01:13:09,14 remember what I had 939 01:13:09,15 --> 01:13:12,64 a knack I don't I knew I'd break free that last question so I was trying to just 940 01:13:13,00 --> 01:13:17,48 takes longer and longer all the time so I know I know I had an action item to 941 01:13:17,49 --> 01:13:23,52 follow up with. In our company because we do make air quality monitoring equipment 942 01:13:23,78 --> 01:13:26,21 in a business unit that I'm not associated with and I've talked to 943 01:13:26,22 --> 01:13:29,63 a couple of different people and the first thing I get reminded of is we're 944 01:13:29,64 --> 01:13:31,39 equipment and instruments company we're not 945 01:13:31,40 --> 01:13:37,29 a services company. The other thing is quite honestly they said it is difficult to 946 01:13:37,29 --> 01:13:44,11 . To assess odors you first got to know what the gas is mission so the 947 01:13:44,12 --> 01:13:48,15 very first thing you have to do is something we've talked about before is have 948 01:13:48,16 --> 01:13:53,05 a very concerted effort to do a bag or event. Capture or over 949 01:13:53,06 --> 01:13:57,95 a period of time. And. Group is the gentleman's name is 950 01:13:57,96 --> 01:14:03,28 a senior technical sales support is that you know there's companies locally in 951 01:14:03,29 --> 01:14:07,59 Rochester and you mentioned T R C In particular I'm not familiar with the company 952 01:14:08,07 --> 01:14:12,66 but I did look it up and I believe I sent to their website. And they do have an 953 01:14:12,67 --> 01:14:16,86 office here in Rochester so again I think we all know that you know this is 954 01:14:16,87 --> 01:14:21,12 a long road and we're trying to make sure everybody stays involved and maybe we 955 01:14:21,16 --> 01:14:25,65 reset expectations and maybe get the folks in Parkview an answer sooner rather than 956 01:14:25,66 --> 01:14:31,10 later whether it be we get academia involved or we decide we want to pay some money 957 01:14:31,11 --> 01:14:35,70 get a third party involved which again to me sounds like 958 01:14:35,71 --> 01:14:41,04 a great way to try to get to the end of the game here. There are companies that 959 01:14:41,59 --> 01:14:46,03 perform the services of Fortune ours does not get we make the equipment we sell it 960 01:14:46,04 --> 01:14:49,67 to the service providers the engineering firms I wish I could pull something off 961 01:14:49,68 --> 01:14:54,87 the shelf and put it in Bob's backyard and say see you know we got your answer but 962 01:14:54,88 --> 01:15:00,19 we know things like that are never that simple OK. Thank you for your time thanks 963 01:15:00,20 --> 01:15:06,15 for your time good luck with the solar. OK let's see Ed was next and then. 964 01:15:07,30 --> 01:15:08,21 Blake was next and then 965 01:15:08,22 --> 01:15:17,52 a sorry all right. Blake and Blake in company. We 966 01:15:17,53 --> 01:15:22,46 don't get even with Patty colors Santo sorry to interrupt before didn't understand 967 01:15:22,47 --> 01:15:26,24 the order of operations but we just want to bring to the boards attention that 968 01:15:26,80 --> 01:15:31,68 we've been trying to work through you know causes office with Benway and also with 969 01:15:31,69 --> 01:15:37,89 the building department. The Ashton Rice subdivision construction that's going on 970 01:15:37,98 --> 01:15:42,34 and you know some of the adverse effects that we've been having on our property. 971 01:15:43,83 --> 01:15:48,55 You know Patti came to me last week when we received those white cards and 972 01:15:48,56 --> 01:15:54,39 questioning as to exactly what's going on with the construction and I informed her 973 01:15:54,43 --> 01:15:54,72 might be 974 01:15:54,73 --> 01:15:59,05 a good idea for us to go together and at least let you guys know what's happening 975 01:15:59,89 --> 01:16:01,31 you know speaking for you Patty 976 01:16:01,32 --> 01:16:05,72 a little bit and you know cut me off I'm not representing it right but I guess when 977 01:16:05,73 --> 01:16:10,28 they were doing instruction the culdesac actually took I want over there to see 978 01:16:11,19 --> 01:16:16,41 some of the construction the excavation went right through tree roots that is on 979 01:16:16,42 --> 01:16:20,10 her property boundary. So you know there's been 980 01:16:20,11 --> 01:16:26,77 a little carelessness with the excavations with the. Bulldozers backhoes what have 981 01:16:26,78 --> 01:16:33,47 you and just general. Construction going on there I also kind of saw the way that 982 01:16:33,48 --> 01:16:37,79 all the drainage is lined up there it's pointing the right towards their backyards 983 01:16:38,35 --> 01:16:41,86 which is you know I've been working out with cars and with the new way it was to 984 01:16:41,87 --> 01:16:45,98 our understanding there is going to be some drainage capture going back there to at 985 01:16:45,99 --> 01:16:50,64 least make some swelling and between the neighbors and the new construction so we'd 986 01:16:50,65 --> 01:16:51,30 have some sort of 987 01:16:51,31 --> 01:16:56,45 a buffer zone created as it will so that water runoff from that new subdivision 988 01:16:56,62 --> 01:17:02,03 won't be affecting all of our properties. Did you have any other trees that been 989 01:17:02,04 --> 01:17:07,88 destroyed I mean I don't know not yet but my roots are large and they've been cut 990 01:17:08,26 --> 01:17:11,62 so I'm not happy with the trees my survive 991 01:17:11,63 --> 01:17:18,60 a year or two in the business you could. Be responsible taking them down 992 01:17:18,61 --> 01:17:24,27 it's very expensive and I don't feel that it's my responsibility. To pay for it 993 01:17:24,28 --> 01:17:28,85 because the buffer is being destroyed so work. 994 01:17:32,59 --> 01:17:39,12 By way of discussion with the developer or. You know the builder builder of that 995 01:17:39,25 --> 01:17:43,28 project Tony is you know I've been in communication with you know the town offices 996 01:17:43,29 --> 01:17:49,06 and with Michael and Sam. Unfortunately contacts kind of drifted since the 997 01:17:49,07 --> 01:17:53,87 beginning of the year we were set to have many scheduled meetings that have either 998 01:17:54,21 --> 01:17:59,77 gone by the wayside or haven't been handed to them with Michael specifically and we 999 01:17:59,78 --> 01:18:03,82 like Sando about it we were supposed to meet tomorrow however Michael did reach out 1000 01:18:04,45 --> 01:18:10,00 and unfortunately so we're going to postpone that maybe until next week I will be 1001 01:18:10,01 --> 01:18:15,88 bringing up how these points to them however. Are in India launch just so happened 1002 01:18:15,88 --> 01:18:20,99 . You know I made you aware that we're also on my property having 1003 01:18:21,00 --> 01:18:26,66 a lot of issues just so the town birds you know aware of this when they were going 1004 01:18:26,67 --> 01:18:31,44 through the construction and. I guess building what is considered to be face to 1005 01:18:32,07 --> 01:18:32,62 they pushed 1006 01:18:32,66 --> 01:18:38,28 a lot of subsoil onto our property are guesstimates some are an axis of about 1007 01:18:38,33 --> 01:18:43,99 thirty thousand cubic yards. All done without your permission without my permission 1008 01:18:44,11 --> 01:18:50,05 so that was not agreed upon that was never agreed upon that was done OK so I would 1009 01:18:50,24 --> 01:18:56,11 very much like to go on the record with that all right. So with that they also cut 1010 01:18:56,15 --> 01:19:02,24 into not only the buffer zone but part of the wetland. They were putting up some so 1011 01:19:02,28 --> 01:19:06,28 Francine I like to guys know that number one you're not supposed to be on our 1012 01:19:06,29 --> 01:19:10,65 property number two you're going right through a New York State D.C. 1013 01:19:10,66 --> 01:19:17,57 Wetland and they said we're doing what we're told to be told to do and so we've 1014 01:19:17,58 --> 01:19:23,03 asked by home this is one of four contractors they were doing what Michael and 1015 01:19:23,44 --> 01:19:28,80 Michael Campbell County who is with the rise of division I'm not sure what they 1016 01:19:28,81 --> 01:19:34,49 call their group by and then they were doing what Franco Frattini from one to four 1017 01:19:34,50 --> 01:19:38,50 was telling them Frank was not there this time so I brought out 1018 01:19:38,51 --> 01:19:41,77 a map showed him they were going right through it they said we have to get this and 1019 01:19:42,34 --> 01:19:48,37 and yes the restrain Yes You know none of it was seeded so there were some problems 1020 01:19:48,95 --> 01:19:52,62 and I said Buck if you need guys need to get the same get it in but you're on my 1021 01:19:52,63 --> 01:19:56,89 property and I don't want this happening but I also don't want silt going into 1022 01:19:56,90 --> 01:20:02,53 wetlands so of course I called Michael and I've been trying to work this out with 1023 01:20:02,54 --> 01:20:07,49 him to not include the town even though I've been in the town now and it's just 1024 01:20:07,50 --> 01:20:11,21 resulted in nothing to the point now where we're going into it's almost 1025 01:20:11,22 --> 01:20:17,49 a year. We're going into the spring. Everybody in Penfield would like me to clean 1026 01:20:17,50 --> 01:20:21,67 up my property and get it going and we're finally to the stage of where we can but 1027 01:20:21,68 --> 01:20:27,87 now are creating an elevation is so high that I'm not able to achieve the site plan 1028 01:20:28,18 --> 01:20:29,64 that we you know brought forth 1029 01:20:29,65 --> 01:20:34,63 a couple of years ago I believe it was Jim And so we're really getting landlocked 1030 01:20:35,32 --> 01:20:41,13 by this development first it was in the sewers now it's this excavation in phase 1031 01:20:41,14 --> 01:20:48,07 two and so we're hoping that we can come to resolution but I I don't know if 1032 01:20:48,08 --> 01:20:51,61 it's going to happen for the spring and here we are we're going to be stuck again 1033 01:20:51,66 --> 01:20:55,48 and some of the neighbors are being affected in other ways than I am and they're 1034 01:20:55,49 --> 01:21:01,21 coming to me so I at least want to make the town board aware of this and it's my 1035 01:21:01,22 --> 01:21:06,25 understanding that the town board has approved to stop any construction Jason to 1036 01:21:06,26 --> 01:21:11,21 lease my property value would probably want the same until they fix or trees or 1037 01:21:11,22 --> 01:21:15,41 what have you. Which we might need some more discussions for I completely 1038 01:21:15,42 --> 01:21:20,03 understand but at least it's nowhere to let you guys know we are having hardship 1039 01:21:20,04 --> 01:21:22,78 with us and there's 1040 01:21:22,79 --> 01:21:27,47 a few points that are brought up to jam into job. Number one I don't want to see 1041 01:21:27,48 --> 01:21:29,20 coming over and the C.B.S. 1042 01:21:29,21 --> 01:21:34,90 Cuts and fills in the wetlands and in the buffer zone and then everybody to be on 1043 01:21:34,91 --> 01:21:38,03 hold and to have just a problem with the way the D.C. 1044 01:21:38,14 --> 01:21:40,70 Which is going it's a matter of time. It's not 1045 01:21:40,71 --> 01:21:44,48 a matter of at and especially if they're going to inspect this pond that's being 1046 01:21:44,49 --> 01:21:49,52 created. They might just when the right over the property is what else is going on 1047 01:21:49,57 --> 01:21:50,55 and yes there is still 1048 01:21:50,56 --> 01:21:54,85 a fence that's broken yes there is silt it's going into one land yes there is oil 1049 01:21:54,89 --> 01:22:00,67 runoff from the construction I have pictures of all this so as much as I've been 1050 01:22:00,68 --> 01:22:05,48 know to find them there still are actions that are being done there's promises but 1051 01:22:05,49 --> 01:22:09,66 nothing is actually happening and I understand in the middle of winter but I'm 1052 01:22:09,67 --> 01:22:10,73 trying to get some sort of 1053 01:22:10,74 --> 01:22:16,16 a formulated agreed upon plan of at least what the actual ride subdivision 1054 01:22:16,17 --> 01:22:23,11 Cavalcanti Japan you go to moving forward so we can mitigate minimize and move 1055 01:22:23,12 --> 01:22:29,19 on to what we have here. Currently any litigation going on you know around this you 1056 01:22:29,20 --> 01:22:36,11 know this talks we are trying like hell to get this fixed before. You 1057 01:22:36,12 --> 01:22:40,00 know we get pushed to the envelope because the statute of limitations is one year 1058 01:22:40,60 --> 01:22:46,17 from when they enter the property into the trust us. So we're coming up on that 1059 01:22:46,23 --> 01:22:51,33 verse three. So I know that you know I'm working with under Bergen caster through 1060 01:22:51,34 --> 01:22:58,32 the corporation and. We're trying to not get to that stage so in our talk 1061 01:22:58,33 --> 01:23:03,27 next week we're going to bring up the point that this anniversary is coming up and 1062 01:23:03,28 --> 01:23:09,68 what can we do to avoid this so but. You know. 1063 01:23:10,69 --> 01:23:17,64 It's not only. Me with next week I mean with Michael with caustic engineering. 1064 01:23:18,99 --> 01:23:23,87 And with David Kang from undergoing counseling hoping that we can find 1065 01:23:23,88 --> 01:23:29,98 a resolution to remove this oil they have been coming up with proposals to kind of 1066 01:23:30,19 --> 01:23:33,38 slope the soil however we're making 1067 01:23:33,39 --> 01:23:38,41 a nursery garden retail center we're going to be growing plants and you can't grow 1068 01:23:38,42 --> 01:23:41,99 plants and it's steep slope it's not going to work you're going to have crooked 1069 01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:45,69 plants I don't think anybody wants us not to mention the fact that you're healthy 1070 01:23:46,13 --> 01:23:52,52 had somebody. Different type right you know it's not exactly what we're going for 1071 01:23:52,97 --> 01:23:59,84 so OK And so I just want to I just want to. So as as 1072 01:23:59,85 --> 01:24:06,43 this work was being done. On private property your property. 1073 01:24:07,89 --> 01:24:14,34 With your approval. You did Tom to stop and. You know damn the 1074 01:24:14,35 --> 01:24:20,08 torpedoes so to speak and kept on doing what really major disconnect when you 1075 01:24:20,09 --> 01:24:21,57 pretty much have a noun had there's been 1076 01:24:21,58 --> 01:24:27,11 a major disconnect where I never approved it Michael for just kind of told them to 1077 01:24:27,12 --> 01:24:30,84 start going and I'm now dealing with Frank 1078 01:24:30,85 --> 01:24:35,92 a funny from one of four who is following the lead from Michael Cavalcanti Michael 1079 01:24:35,93 --> 01:24:42,46 one calling and saying Stop stop stop Frank's telling his guys to go. And I'm 1080 01:24:42,47 --> 01:24:45,59 trying to tell them that they're coming on the property and you're not welcome to 1081 01:24:45,60 --> 01:24:51,12 not push any of the soil and yet here they are still doing it Michael had handed me 1082 01:24:51,59 --> 01:24:57,03 a agreement at one point that Jeff I believe you have in your files. That Michael 1083 01:24:57,04 --> 01:25:02,88 handed to me not only did I not sign it but Michael didn't sign it either. It was 1084 01:25:02,89 --> 01:25:09,21 never agreed upon from either one of us so here we are and this is all done and we 1085 01:25:09,22 --> 01:25:09,42 have 1086 01:25:09,43 --> 01:25:17,84 a big. There is water from this neighborhood going into my back building. One 1087 01:25:17,85 --> 01:25:22,59 of the doors actually the framing it's all rotted out from all the water that's 1088 01:25:22,60 --> 01:25:27,58 been standing there so I'm concerned about this and we could have some issues going 1089 01:25:27,59 --> 01:25:29,76 forward if this doesn't get fixed that's 1090 01:25:29,77 --> 01:25:33,78 a match and it's going to stop the business all the plans that have promised agenda 1091 01:25:34,39 --> 01:25:39,91 in the building department I can't honor until this is worked out and I like to be 1092 01:25:39,92 --> 01:25:46,86 and I read if we can get this going and we get things. Just can you give me your 1093 01:25:46,87 --> 01:25:53,39 property address. Again minus twenty six Fox OK I was going as much 1094 01:25:53,93 --> 01:25:58,11 think it's right behind the cul de sac behind you yeah twenty three forty three 1095 01:25:58,12 --> 01:26:02,08 hundred OK. Thank you. 1096 01:26:06,78 --> 01:26:12,65 And it's your plan after you meet. With the attorney kind of rocky and. 1097 01:26:14,29 --> 01:26:20,30 Then to share that back with the town staff story where you are with that 1098 01:26:21,07 --> 01:26:23,85 yeah we certainly well just to clarify 1099 01:26:24,36 --> 01:26:31,18 a front you will not be there it's David Brock I think accosted. KASICH OK yes you 1100 01:26:31,48 --> 01:26:36,71 did say that you said Kasich Cavalcanti. You're yourself. 1101 01:26:38,96 --> 01:26:41,29 Frank however he does not want to be 1102 01:26:41,30 --> 01:26:45,96 a part of this OK he said he's very much opposed to coming from my understanding 1103 01:26:46,54 --> 01:26:53,43 invited a few so I have been keeping the town involved in this I think if not 1104 01:26:53,44 --> 01:26:58,95 a little too much sometimes but at any rate you know I will continue that so they 1105 01:26:58,96 --> 01:26:59,49 are C.C. 1106 01:26:59,50 --> 01:27:05,51 Donnelly emails and I think since the day that this started. I was you know I made 1107 01:27:05,52 --> 01:27:09,87 the town aware that there were wetland cuts in Phil's going on without 1108 01:27:09,88 --> 01:27:15,03 a true. Because I knew the consequences of what can come of this and. 1109 01:27:16,87 --> 01:27:22,90 You know hindsight should have had the police involved sure however this was we had 1110 01:27:22,97 --> 01:27:27,39 partnership agreements on the topsoil portion so I thought we had 1111 01:27:27,40 --> 01:27:32,56 a better relationship than what we did shame on our partnership with Cavalcanti 1112 01:27:32,83 --> 01:27:37,73 Caracas for the top so rights for the tops having to do nothing with this Phil soil 1113 01:27:37,84 --> 01:27:41,33 and I've had excavation companies come over and give us for 1114 01:27:41,34 --> 01:27:45,14 a nasty mess as to how much it's going to cost yet they say they want to try to 1115 01:27:45,15 --> 01:27:50,40 take care of it themselves but the clock's ticking and the springs come in and 1116 01:27:50,44 --> 01:27:54,73 we're trying to open for business you know we have construction we need to complete 1117 01:27:54,77 --> 01:27:55,18 and you get 1118 01:27:55,19 --> 01:28:01,77 a retail greenhouse in the back. Are kind of stuck with plants so stuff OK 1119 01:28:02,10 --> 01:28:02,30 it's 1120 01:28:02,31 --> 01:28:07,28 a tough going here. All right well we appreciate the update certainly will we'll 1121 01:28:07,29 --> 01:28:13,27 stay close with Mr Costello and staff on this and. 1122 01:28:14,76 --> 01:28:19,64 And I would just ask that you provide an update from that session you're having 1123 01:28:19,65 --> 01:28:24,89 next week back to back into the into the town staff. But 1124 01:28:24,90 --> 01:28:30,30 a good idea to be whatever we come up with maybe to now the next work session that 1125 01:28:30,31 --> 01:28:35,75 the town board has for the following morning. Let's see what let's see what happens 1126 01:28:35,76 --> 01:28:41,21 I mean certainly. You know we'll keep this kind of as an active item but let's see 1127 01:28:41,22 --> 01:28:46,19 what comes out of this obviously if this gets into a civil matter into 1128 01:28:46,20 --> 01:28:53,12 a civil suit. Then that is obviously something between yourself and Mr Cavalcanti 1129 01:28:53,13 --> 01:28:59,31 or true party or what have you but let's see what shakes out here next week I'm I 1130 01:28:59,32 --> 01:29:02,67 mean I'm hoping that everybody can come to 1131 01:29:02,68 --> 01:29:06,86 a in agreement and certainly you know we have to take 1132 01:29:06,87 --> 01:29:13,12 a look at the tree damage as well as as part of that and what can be done 1133 01:29:13,73 --> 01:29:17,33 to address that matter as well we all I read it you know up with traffic he's going 1134 01:29:17,34 --> 01:29:20,89 to step over tomorrow just to kind of see what the swelling it's in the back 1135 01:29:20,90 --> 01:29:26,90 because straight from the road it just points right directly to his callous not 1136 01:29:26,91 --> 01:29:32,05 just property could be an issue I'm just worried about drainage we have no water 1137 01:29:32,06 --> 01:29:38,53 going to go out land you don't need any more OK All right good very good thank you 1138 01:29:38,77 --> 01:29:44,22 thank you thank you very much. OK let's see we saw 1139 01:29:44,23 --> 01:29:49,35 a few folks in the audience I think Ed was the next one op ed it's almost Pascha 1140 01:29:49,36 --> 01:29:56,28 bedtime. Better because maybe you could 1141 01:29:56,72 --> 01:30:03,12 maybe you could take out the whole cause if you need to continue on with that. And 1142 01:30:03,13 --> 01:30:06,45 we're going to get to. Cover station with 1143 01:30:06,46 --> 01:30:11,51 a little less later. My issue involves 1144 01:30:11,52 --> 01:30:13,52 a little eight legged creature called 1145 01:30:13,53 --> 01:30:20,46 a deer tick. And I wasn't there to specifically concerned about them until my dog 1146 01:30:20,47 --> 01:30:21,65 started picking them up 1147 01:30:21,66 --> 01:30:25,38 a couple of years ago on school property and used to walk my dog on school property 1148 01:30:25,39 --> 01:30:31,63 guillotine. I don't walk anymore so I don't know any of that problem I went to 1149 01:30:32,72 --> 01:30:33,35 a P.T.A. 1150 01:30:33,36 --> 01:30:38,50 Meeting and talked to the principal and she was concerned she got and buildings and 1151 01:30:38,51 --> 01:30:43,67 grounds and requested them to do some cleanup along the west property line of 1152 01:30:43,68 --> 01:30:49,60 behind the parking lot and behind Fanny which is that which is school district 1153 01:30:49,61 --> 01:30:53,74 preparatory to where the range it seems you little creatures like to sit in 1154 01:30:53,75 --> 01:30:58,86 telegraphs no way for the deer to come by the deer or their homes for reproduction 1155 01:30:59,57 --> 01:31:00,47 I didn't think it was 1156 01:31:00,48 --> 01:31:05,08 a problem with Lyme disease in Penfield until I was talking to this or interim 1157 01:31:05,09 --> 01:31:08,38 superintendent of schools who said it was affected his family in 1158 01:31:08,39 --> 01:31:11,62 a pick it up and Penfield. It looks like we've got 1159 01:31:11,63 --> 01:31:16,71 a problem here with deer and deer ticks and I was hoping that you could use your 1160 01:31:16,72 --> 01:31:17,31 column as 1161 01:31:17,32 --> 01:31:22,85 a kind of information thing to get the word out to the public to see if we can't 1162 01:31:23,00 --> 01:31:25,75 move the deer back into the woods I did have 1163 01:31:25,76 --> 01:31:31,34 a problem in my area until one lady deer decided to raise her kids intently and 1164 01:31:31,35 --> 01:31:37,54 next door for ten years. And. Limit the. 1165 01:31:38,47 --> 01:31:40,86 Growth we have around her houses do things that get 1166 01:31:40,87 --> 01:31:45,09 a deer don't like to eat maybe get the deer out of the subdivisions and get them 1167 01:31:45,10 --> 01:31:51,78 back into the woods really. OK. In an item on 1168 01:31:51,96 --> 01:31:58,86 deer ticks so I'll probably read about my reference was to round to explore the 1169 01:31:59,28 --> 01:32:03,89 January February issue. That I was reading and they were talking about the 1170 01:32:03,90 --> 01:32:07,78 expansion of Lyme disease in the Champlain Valley and into the Adirondacks which 1171 01:32:07,79 --> 01:32:11,92 they thought was immune from Lyme disease but like because each is spreading across 1172 01:32:11,93 --> 01:32:14,100 the state so look look looks like we've got 1173 01:32:15,01 --> 01:32:21,89 a potential problem. OK you can reach out to our friends from 1174 01:32:21,90 --> 01:32:27,10 D.C. As well as. Because. I know they've got 1175 01:32:27,11 --> 01:32:32,55 a lot of information that they might be able to make reference to we can take those 1176 01:32:32,63 --> 01:32:33,70 brochures or maybe 1177 01:32:33,71 --> 01:32:40,29 a hotlink and put that right on the website so folks can click on that as well OK 1178 01:32:41,27 --> 01:32:46,35 thanks Ed anyone else that would like to address the board on any matter Good to 1179 01:32:46,36 --> 01:32:51,74 see you sir. All right we'll move move on there's another opportunity at the end of 1180 01:32:51,75 --> 01:32:57,71 the agenda and I will move on. Now additions and deletions to the agenda. 1181 01:32:59,18 --> 01:33:04,71 Scene we have the minutes of December seventeenth two thousand and fourteen before 1182 01:33:04,72 --> 01:33:07,39 us. Excuse not entertain 1183 01:33:07,40 --> 01:33:14,39 a motion of approval for those minutes. For seven. Second who've 1184 01:33:14,40 --> 01:33:18,60 been seconded and a discussion see no discussion I'd ask for 1185 01:33:18,61 --> 01:33:24,90 a roll call vote place. That's right more I claim I live. 1186 01:33:26,17 --> 01:33:30,65 Petition so snowboard Town Clerk town attorney received any petitions his her last 1187 01:33:30,66 --> 01:33:35,55 get together seen on move on to resolution by function starting with line finance 1188 01:33:35,56 --> 01:33:40,43 police establishment of the way bridge court subdivision special approve meant 1189 01:33:40,44 --> 01:33:45,42 district move second Prezza public hearing was held on December seventeenth two 1190 01:33:45,43 --> 01:33:49,61 thousand and fourteen to consider the petition and hear all persons interested in 1191 01:33:49,62 --> 01:33:54,92 the establishment of the way Bridgeport subdivision it fourteen sixty nine Jackson 1192 01:33:54,93 --> 01:34:00,22 Road where the town board received no negative or substantial employ regarding this 1193 01:34:00,23 --> 01:34:01,89 matter Now therefore be 1194 01:34:01,90 --> 01:34:07,30 a result of that the annexed order be executed by the town supervisor and members 1195 01:34:07,31 --> 01:34:11,47 of the town board to establish the weighbridge court subdivision special 1196 01:34:11,48 --> 01:34:16,93 Improvement District thank you thank you the more I think before you go to. Like 1197 01:34:16,94 --> 01:34:21,54 them because yes you do and if you would. Hire 1198 01:34:21,55 --> 01:34:28,07 a good middle man to use the word special. In the title of the resolution in the 1199 01:34:28,08 --> 01:34:30,29 value of the road so it will be 1200 01:34:30,30 --> 01:34:37,18 a special. OK. Mr Moore regime maker would you 1201 01:34:37,85 --> 01:34:42,44 make that motion Yes I will make the motion to add that language to the resolution 1202 01:34:42,45 --> 01:34:47,68 both in the title and in the body of the resolution as per their counsel's 1203 01:34:47,69 --> 01:34:52,82 recommendation he says is going to thank you very much OK So call for 1204 01:34:52,83 --> 01:34:59,12 a vote on the amendment and we will go to the main the main motion so this vote is 1205 01:34:59,13 --> 01:35:05,21 for the amendment adding the word part to not only the name of the resolution but 1206 01:35:05,22 --> 01:35:07,53 also the body the resolution then I'd ask for 1207 01:35:07,68 --> 01:35:13,71 a roll call vote call the fountain Metzler more quit 1208 01:35:14,58 --> 01:35:20,31 five thank you and now for the main motion any discussion on this particular 1209 01:35:20,32 --> 01:35:26,34 resolution. OK scene and then this will will be for the amended resolution. 1210 01:35:27,41 --> 01:35:34,12 Called The Fountain I I more plan I. Thank you. 1211 01:35:35,52 --> 01:35:39,86 Establishment of the stench in number fifty seven to the Pentagon consolidated 1212 01:35:39,87 --> 01:35:46,60 sanitary sewer district Weybridge court subdivision fourteen sixteen I just. Moved 1213 01:35:46,77 --> 01:35:51,05 second whereas public hearing was held at Penn field town hall and December 1214 01:35:51,06 --> 01:35:54,65 seventeenth two thousand and fourteen at seven thirty P.M. 1215 01:35:54,69 --> 01:35:59,19 To consider the petition and hear all persons interested in the establishment of 1216 01:35:59,20 --> 01:36:04,72 extension number fifty seven to the Penfield consolidated sanity sanitary sewer 1217 01:36:04,73 --> 01:36:09,29 district Weybridge court subdivision where the town board received no negative 1218 01:36:09,68 --> 01:36:14,68 comments were got related to this matter whereas the said cost of the sewer 1219 01:36:14,69 --> 01:36:20,64 district improvements shall be borne soley by the property owners and developer Now 1220 01:36:20,65 --> 01:36:25,37 therefore be it Resolved That the next order be executed by the supervisor and 1221 01:36:25,38 --> 01:36:30,34 members of the Penfield town board to establish the extension fifty seven to the 1222 01:36:30,35 --> 01:36:36,12 Penfield consolidated sanitary sewer destroyed. Weybridge subdivision thank you 1223 01:36:36,73 --> 01:36:41,78 thank you Mr Moore no discussion of this resolution. See no discussion roll call 1224 01:36:41,79 --> 01:36:47,91 vote please call I thought. I. Plan I. 1225 01:36:49,71 --> 01:36:56,04 Authors nation from re subdivision of plans in the action. To subdivision move 1226 01:36:56,18 --> 01:37:00,64 second where the developer of the Ashland Rice subdivision proposed to construct 1227 01:37:00,65 --> 01:37:04,100 a seam Terry sewer from phase two of the subdivision north through the property 1228 01:37:05,01 --> 01:37:10,39 located at twenty three forty three Penfield road to an existing sanitary sewer and 1229 01:37:10,40 --> 01:37:15,54 Dublin Road to service said phase of development in offered lands to the town of 1230 01:37:15,55 --> 01:37:22,18 Penfield to allow it to maintain said sewer whereas subsequent to Ashlyn rise phase 1231 01:37:22,19 --> 01:37:26,82 two subdivision plat being recorded the by row county clerk's office on March 1232 01:37:26,83 --> 01:37:31,83 thirty first two thousand and fourteen in Library three four seven of the maps the 1233 01:37:31,84 --> 01:37:36,28 developer devised an alternative route to service phase two of the subdivision 1234 01:37:36,61 --> 01:37:40,57 resulting in the town no longer needing the lands previously offered by the 1235 01:37:40,58 --> 01:37:45,91 developer is sewer maintenance and sewer maintenance was no longer necessary at 1236 01:37:45,92 --> 01:37:50,92 that location whereas the developer now proposes to re subdivided those lands 1237 01:37:50,93 --> 01:37:57,89 offered to the town into the adjacent lot to fifteen to sixteen into seventeen of 1238 01:37:57,90 --> 01:38:03,77 the actual Rice phase two subdivision where is town staff and board is supportive 1239 01:38:03,78 --> 01:38:07,32 of the applicant's proposal to resubmit re sub devise 1240 01:38:07,33 --> 01:38:12,91 a lats to give them greater area in additional buffer from twenty three forty three 1241 01:38:12,92 --> 01:38:17,01 Penfield road Now therefore be it Resolved That the town board of the town of 1242 01:38:17,02 --> 01:38:23,10 Penfield hereby declines the offer of said lands and the owners of said project 1243 01:38:23,24 --> 01:38:29,18 they have the lands re subdivided into lats to fifteen to sixteen to seventeen of 1244 01:38:29,19 --> 01:38:33,99 the actual rise phase two subdivision and that the recent division plant be 1245 01:38:34,00 --> 01:38:39,44 prepared showing said subdivision as proposed by developers to be signed by the 1246 01:38:39,45 --> 01:38:43,88 supervisor in recorded in this resolution. That's 1247 01:38:43,89 --> 01:38:50,09 a lot of THANK YOU THANK YOU discussion of this resolution see no discussion I've 1248 01:38:50,10 --> 01:38:50,40 asked for 1249 01:38:50,41 --> 01:38:57,48 a roll call vote please call my thought I write more when I 1250 01:38:57,96 --> 01:39:03,92 arrive. At through the town board to accept and Monroe County block grant for 1251 01:39:03,93 --> 01:39:09,39 thirty four thousand seven hundred fifty dollars for the Empire Boulevard sidewalk 1252 01:39:09,40 --> 01:39:16,16 improvement project and execute an agreement moved. Second time I feel as 1253 01:39:16,17 --> 01:39:20,72 a member of the manor County Community Development Block Grant urban consortium and 1254 01:39:20,73 --> 01:39:21,87 the town has entered into 1255 01:39:21,88 --> 01:39:26,44 a cooperation agreement to participate in the Community Development Program and 1256 01:39:26,45 --> 01:39:30,49 comply with the federal laws and requirements regularly in the program the town of 1257 01:39:30,50 --> 01:39:35,03 Penfield after consultation with the public has identified an appropriate use up 1258 01:39:35,04 --> 01:39:40,23 potential community development funding in the town the town has made application 1259 01:39:40,27 --> 01:39:42,20 the money kind about ministration for 1260 01:39:42,21 --> 01:39:46,63 a project that satisfied their determination and the men were kind about Mitt 1261 01:39:46,64 --> 01:39:48,86 administration has awarded grant for 1262 01:39:48,87 --> 01:39:53,50 a maximum amount of thirty four thousand seven hundred fifty dollars for the Empire 1263 01:39:53,69 --> 01:39:58,87 Boulevard sidewalk improvement project in the town of Penfield the town of Penfield 1264 01:39:58,88 --> 01:40:03,10 is deemed in the best interest of the town to accept this grant Now therefore be 1265 01:40:03,11 --> 01:40:07,85 a result of the town board accept this grant and encourages the implementation of 1266 01:40:07,86 --> 01:40:09,45 this project and then for 1267 01:40:09,46 --> 01:40:14,09 a bit further result at the time of pedophile supervisor found B. 1268 01:40:14,13 --> 01:40:18,10 And is here by authorized to execute an agreement with Monroe County where the 1269 01:40:18,11 --> 01:40:22,85 project and the Grant thank you and a discussion of 1270 01:40:22,86 --> 01:40:26,64 a ship frozen real quickly I would just like to think your efforts and the efforts 1271 01:40:26,65 --> 01:40:32,48 of both our county legislators here in the town of Penfield draw in Dan Quatro from 1272 01:40:32,49 --> 01:40:35,84 legislative districts nine and fifteen I know for 1273 01:40:35,85 --> 01:40:40,59 a fact that the town of Penfield competes with other towns and other municipalities 1274 01:40:40,82 --> 01:40:46,14 in Monroe County for certain lots some with money every year and we seem to be very 1275 01:40:46,15 --> 01:40:51,76 successful in competing for it as per this resolution for the thirty four thousand 1276 01:40:51,77 --> 01:40:54,32 seven hundred fifty dollars so there's always 1277 01:40:54,33 --> 01:40:59,62 a possibility that we would get zero or we would get less and I'd like to thank you 1278 01:40:59,63 --> 01:41:03,81 on behalf of this board for your efforts and the county legislators afeard in 1279 01:41:03,82 --> 01:41:05,25 securing this funding through 1280 01:41:05,26 --> 01:41:12,03 a competitive process thank you thank you. OK see no further discussion of 1281 01:41:12,04 --> 01:41:18,97 ass or wrong place called The Fountain Metzler I more when I 1282 01:41:19,27 --> 01:41:22,02 drive. Authorisation to attend 1283 01:41:22,03 --> 01:41:27,57 a highway superintendent Advocacy Day for local roads and bridges in Albany New 1284 01:41:27,58 --> 01:41:33,09 York. The New York State Association of town and highway superintendents and the 1285 01:41:33,10 --> 01:41:38,01 New York State Association of County Highway superintendents co-sponsor an advocacy 1286 01:41:38,02 --> 01:41:43,06 day campaign in Albany to advocate for an increased share of the transportation 1287 01:41:43,07 --> 01:41:48,48 funding for local roads and bridges and whereas the Advocacy Day campaigns have 1288 01:41:48,49 --> 01:41:53,30 been very successful in the past advocating for maintaining our fair share of local 1289 01:41:53,31 --> 01:41:55,73 roads and bridges funding therefore be 1290 01:41:55,74 --> 01:42:00,43 a result of the Director of Public Works is authorized to attend Advocacy Day 1291 01:42:00,44 --> 01:42:02,95 campaign for local roads and bridges in Auburn 1292 01:42:02,96 --> 01:42:07,74 a march through the end for two thousand and fifteen and that reasonable expenses 1293 01:42:07,75 --> 01:42:14,04 will be reimbursed which are budgeted in the two thousand and fifteen budget. Thank 1294 01:42:14,05 --> 01:42:19,04 you discussion I would just offer Mr Supervisor that this is 1295 01:42:19,05 --> 01:42:24,93 a annual event that highway superintendent will attend along with others that show 1296 01:42:24,94 --> 01:42:31,28 up in Albany to certainly make our voices heard with respect to fair share for 1297 01:42:31,29 --> 01:42:32,41 funding there's been 1298 01:42:32,42 --> 01:42:37,96 a lot of talk recently regarding our area and upstate in western New York in 1299 01:42:38,00 --> 01:42:42,87 particular also not receiving their fair share having to compete for their fair 1300 01:42:42,88 --> 01:42:47,95 share of tax dollars and this is one way that annually we can send 1301 01:42:47,96 --> 01:42:54,19 a personal representative to advocate and we have been successful in the past when 1302 01:42:54,20 --> 01:43:00,21 the higher superintendent band together and show up in Albany to express the wishes 1303 01:43:00,22 --> 01:43:06,69 of the OK oldies here. So not only did we keep our funny from last year we 1304 01:43:07,01 --> 01:43:13,40 did get additional. I would like to think that it was really recognized by Albany 1305 01:43:13,85 --> 01:43:17,84 because of need and not because it was an election year so I'm going to stand 1306 01:43:18,21 --> 01:43:24,32 cautiously optimistic that we'll see some additional funding for roads highways and 1307 01:43:24,33 --> 01:43:29,91 bridges again this year OK see no additional comments I asked her. Place. 1308 01:43:33,27 --> 01:43:39,69 More. Five. To extend contract with the 1309 01:43:39,96 --> 01:43:45,30 greater Rochester chapter of the American Red Cross to store one disaster equipment 1310 01:43:45,31 --> 01:43:51,00 trailer at sixteen zero zero seven Jackson Road second the town of Penfield in the 1311 01:43:51,01 --> 01:43:55,42 greater chapter of the American Red Cross enter into an agreement to extend the two 1312 01:43:55,43 --> 01:44:00,15 thousand and fourteen current contract one year two thousand and fifteen to store 1313 01:44:00,16 --> 01:44:04,75 one disaster trailer doesn't add to the support of the residents in the town of 1314 01:44:04,76 --> 01:44:08,27 Penfield and the northeast side of Monroe County and therefore be 1315 01:44:08,28 --> 01:44:11,13 a result of the Director of Public Works is authorized to sign 1316 01:44:11,14 --> 01:44:14,94 a one year extension for the two thousand and fifteen year with the greater 1317 01:44:14,95 --> 01:44:19,44 Rochester chapter of the American Red Cross. Discussion. 1318 01:44:21,38 --> 01:44:27,24 Discussion place. The fountain Metzler more. 1319 01:44:30,68 --> 01:44:33,45 Authorization to extend two thousand and fourteen 1320 01:44:33,49 --> 01:44:39,58 a mandatory agreement all seasons county and town agreement moved jacket the result 1321 01:44:39,59 --> 01:44:42,42 by the cement of the supervisors authorized to execute 1322 01:44:42,43 --> 01:44:44,73 a one year extension to the two thousand and fourteen 1323 01:44:44,74 --> 01:44:50,93 a mandatory All Seasons county town work agreement. Thank you discussion. 1324 01:44:52,18 --> 01:44:57,17 See no discussion of Roll Call. I. Write. 1325 01:44:59,27 --> 01:45:05,98 Five guys advertising for bids for printing program so much so I can be 1326 01:45:05,99 --> 01:45:10,63 a director of recreation is he right authorized to ever ties in the manner 1327 01:45:10,64 --> 01:45:15,95 prescribed by law for Seal proposals to furnish the town for the following printing 1328 01:45:15,96 --> 01:45:20,45 of the recreation department seasonal program brochure be it Resolved That the 1329 01:45:20,46 --> 01:45:24,83 service is covered by such seal proposals is in accordance with specifications 1330 01:45:24,84 --> 01:45:29,78 prepared by the director of recreation proposals are to be submitted to the office 1331 01:45:29,79 --> 01:45:31,88 of the town clerk until eleven A.M. 1332 01:45:31,92 --> 01:45:35,83 February eleventh two thousand and fifteen and then and there be opened and read 1333 01:45:35,84 --> 01:45:41,97 publicly thank YOU discussion. Place. 1334 01:45:43,03 --> 01:45:49,52 The fountain. More. Five. Authorization for 1335 01:45:49,53 --> 01:45:56,51 supervisor recreation contacts. This resolution authorizing the 1336 01:45:56,52 --> 01:46:01,43 town supervisor sign thirty three recreation Kyra tracks thirty three there all the 1337 01:46:01,44 --> 01:46:06,36 different programs that are going to be taking place for recreation department in 1338 01:46:06,37 --> 01:46:11,80 our summer or summer spring brochure. Winter Spring and the programs continue to 1339 01:46:11,81 --> 01:46:17,48 grow so it's good good news for a lot of folks and I would like to just take 1340 01:46:17,49 --> 01:46:24,14 a minute when we're talking about contracts this board. Now several months 1341 01:46:24,15 --> 01:46:25,14 ago made 1342 01:46:25,15 --> 01:46:31,87 a recommendation that. In our recreation department work very closely with 1343 01:46:31,97 --> 01:46:38,55 providing some additional support and programs for you know park day schools 1344 01:46:38,90 --> 01:46:45,61 and other activities and happy to report that staff really stepped up and and has 1345 01:46:45,62 --> 01:46:52,25 added to that offering help some parents when they have some of those days that 1346 01:46:52,55 --> 01:46:55,77 they may not have to take vacations it gives them 1347 01:46:55,78 --> 01:46:58,60 a place to bring their children in 1348 01:46:58,61 --> 01:47:03,79 a safe environment some great programming and so that was 1349 01:47:03,80 --> 01:47:09,94 a great great recommendation by the board and I like to recognize you for that and 1350 01:47:10,06 --> 01:47:14,18 the fact that we're going to can look to continue to grow that to help the families 1351 01:47:14,22 --> 01:47:19,90 of Penfield those of those families that have children both working parents and try 1352 01:47:19,91 --> 01:47:24,62 to minimize you know time that they have to take off during these some of these 1353 01:47:24,63 --> 01:47:26,98 breaks or half days and it really is 1354 01:47:26,99 --> 01:47:31,01 a win win situation. You know for their comments. 1355 01:47:38,49 --> 01:47:43,97 By that. Brings this to all business is there any old has to come before the board 1356 01:47:43,98 --> 01:47:48,63 this evening scene nine Is there any new business to come before the board this 1357 01:47:48,64 --> 01:47:53,85 evening again seen none as is our second public participation is there anyone in 1358 01:47:53,86 --> 01:47:59,64 the audience who would like to address the board on any matter. Ok seen in see no 1359 01:47:59,65 --> 01:48:05,84 further business to come before the board the board meeting of January twenty first 1360 01:48:05,85 --> 01:48:10,59 two thousand and fifteen stands adjourned thank you very much for all those that 1361 01:48:10,60 --> 01:48:13,83 participated thank you very much to Penfield T.V. 1362 01:48:13,83 --> 01:48:13,83 . 1363 01:48:58,17 --> 01:48:58,30 You know. 1364 01:49:20,11 --> 01:49:22,42 Little. Little.