1 00:00:04,05 --> 00:00:09,43 Evening good evening and welcome to the May fourth two thousand and sixteen 2 00:00:09,97 --> 00:00:14,68 legislative session of the town board officially call the board meeting to order 3 00:00:15,25 --> 00:00:20,25 last that everyone please rise for the pledge tonight in the audience we have Bill 4 00:00:20,26 --> 00:00:25,68 Kelly and from the from the post the American Legion Post and I would ask Bill if 5 00:00:25,69 --> 00:00:28,50 he might lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance seen. 6 00:00:35,16 --> 00:00:41,39 Here and you. Know. What. It is. 7 00:00:45,13 --> 00:00:50,87 Right thank you very much I appreciate Bill right up I'm going to take take you 8 00:00:50,88 --> 00:00:52,05 first of all we do have 9 00:00:52,06 --> 00:00:59,03 a public hearing this evening but prior to that public hearing I'm going to ask Mr 10 00:00:59,04 --> 00:01:03,32 Kelly to take just a moment if you would to just update us on 11 00:01:03,50 --> 00:01:08,89 a couple of things coming up Bill the floor is yours and welcome. Tony thank you 12 00:01:08,90 --> 00:01:12,60 Boruc My name is Bill Kelly. And I am 13 00:01:12,61 --> 00:01:18,87 a member of the American Legion Post. Twelve twenty nine I live on Panorama trail 14 00:01:19,66 --> 00:01:20,12 and I've been 15 00:01:20,13 --> 00:01:26,25 a Legionnaire for twenty six years. A large part of what the American Legion does 16 00:01:26,26 --> 00:01:28,76 is looked after veterans living and D.C. 17 00:01:28,77 --> 00:01:35,19 Still. In Penfield we have three main cemeteries the Oakwood Cemetery on Barrett 18 00:01:35,20 --> 00:01:42,04 road which has approximately eight hundred veterans in it St Joseph's cemetery 19 00:01:42,05 --> 00:01:49,02 on Penfield road has about thirty veterans. And new to me is Smith 20 00:01:49,08 --> 00:01:55,90 cemetery on Gloria drive. Some time ago the Legion placed 21 00:01:55,91 --> 00:02:01,29 a twenty five foot fly pull at Oakwood and every year we put up 22 00:02:01,30 --> 00:02:04,96 a five by eight fly American fly and appear Debbie 23 00:02:04,97 --> 00:02:11,73 a fly there and we honor the two Braman brothers who are interned there one is 24 00:02:11,74 --> 00:02:18,43 interned there ones in France. That we put up for fly on their particular grave 25 00:02:18,44 --> 00:02:25,14 sites. Since two thousand and six we've been placing flags in St Joseph's cemetery 26 00:02:25,52 --> 00:02:31,91 and last year we were told by Kathy the town Penfield historian 27 00:02:32,33 --> 00:02:38,96 about Simmons Smith's cemetery. And we looked into it and Kathy had nine veteran 28 00:02:39,00 --> 00:02:45,42 name going back to civil war. For the research funds seven more 29 00:02:45,66 --> 00:02:51,84 forgotten veterans. Diligent took it under under their wing 30 00:02:52,65 --> 00:02:57,02 to honor these sixteen veterans at Smith cemetery. 31 00:02:59,31 --> 00:03:03,94 Tonight I'm here to invite everyone here and within the viewing audience of the 32 00:03:03,95 --> 00:03:06,17 television. To attend 33 00:03:06,18 --> 00:03:12,87 a dedication service for the Veterans Memorial Garden on Memorial Day. May the 34 00:03:12,88 --> 00:03:16,72 thirtieth at three at one thirty in the afternoon. 35 00:03:22,19 --> 00:03:27,47 Choosing Smith cemetery is located on Gloria drive which is the connecting road 36 00:03:27,48 --> 00:03:33,16 between Penfield road red for four one to the south and Atlantic Road to the north 37 00:03:33,64 --> 00:03:34,24 it sits on 38 00:03:34,25 --> 00:03:40,05 a hill overlooking the peaceful countryside to the west when I first saw it I saw 39 00:03:40,06 --> 00:03:40,58 myself in 40 00:03:40,59 --> 00:03:46,58 a western movie an old western movie just so peaceful resolve their ground there 41 00:03:47,04 --> 00:03:52,33 untouched. It was beautiful. The cemetery started as 42 00:03:52,34 --> 00:03:58,99 a family plot by the Smith family the Smith family moved into Penfield area in the 43 00:03:59,78 --> 00:04:00,92 eight hundred twenty S. 44 00:04:00,92 --> 00:04:07,82 . And. Mr Smith lost somebody in his family and they buried 45 00:04:07,83 --> 00:04:13,35 him in the back yard. And one thing led to another and then they were associated 46 00:04:13,36 --> 00:04:15,87 with the Lutheran Church because 47 00:04:15,88 --> 00:04:21,75 a lot of the people there were German and they expanded into the move to church and 48 00:04:21,76 --> 00:04:28,66 Lutheran Church straight people in Smith's cemetary. So that today we 49 00:04:28,67 --> 00:04:34,69 have about four hundred fifty people that are buried in Smith's cemetery the latest 50 00:04:34,70 --> 00:04:41,52 that I know was but was buried there. Two thousand and fifteen so it's still 51 00:04:41,53 --> 00:04:48,36 a semi active cemetery. We have civil war veterans there up 52 00:04:48,37 --> 00:04:53,42 to and including the only ones that we found were World War two veterans we have 53 00:04:53,43 --> 00:05:00,09 war and war one we have one woman that was in the Army Air Corps that is 54 00:05:00,10 --> 00:05:06,74 buried there. So that's why I'm here tonight fascinated if you would come to our. 55 00:05:08,69 --> 00:05:12,13 Dedication the weatherman has promised me with 56 00:05:12,82 --> 00:05:19,55 a very good day. After the dedication here the 57 00:05:19,56 --> 00:05:25,86 ceremonies at Penn field that you have annually are asking you to have lunch 58 00:05:26,64 --> 00:05:31,15 and drive over to Smith cemetery which is about I think three miles from here I'm 59 00:05:31,16 --> 00:05:36,58 not sure about that. In closing I would like to thank all the people that have 60 00:05:36,59 --> 00:05:41,47 helped me the time boards have been very helpful the pound people the workers you 61 00:05:41,51 --> 00:05:45,38 that we have working for us have been most helpful to me in getting this 62 00:05:45,39 --> 00:05:51,95 organization done. But in particular I would like to stand Stephen Lynch of the 63 00:05:51,96 --> 00:05:58,79 miller Brick Company in Greece they donated at no cost to me or to the Legion 64 00:05:59,23 --> 00:06:04,66 all the pavers that we used to put the sixteen people in on it. 65 00:06:06,16 --> 00:06:11,89 The bell guard company the makers of pavers they gave us what we call the soldiers 66 00:06:11,90 --> 00:06:18,83 a small papers that go around the big papers. And then 67 00:06:18,84 --> 00:06:24,42 Pearl the president of natural stone works and I think it's around 68 00:06:24,43 --> 00:06:30,87 a quake he's up in Long Pond on long Pont road and his property abuts the Long Pond 69 00:06:31,62 --> 00:06:34,20 but Dan he donated in 70 00:06:34,21 --> 00:06:40,14 a few you'll love it the tombstone the stone that we have at the headstone. 71 00:06:41,29 --> 00:06:47,12 And there's an inscription on there. That talking about the veterans then donated 72 00:06:47,13 --> 00:06:52,37 that to us he donated to slab that's on the concrete bench there. 73 00:06:54,73 --> 00:06:59,07 And he inscribed all the papers and then the headstones at 74 00:06:59,08 --> 00:07:05,51 a greatly reduced price. This project in real money did not cost 75 00:07:05,91 --> 00:07:12,74 Penfield any money. A lot of people donated their time and effort for this and 76 00:07:12,75 --> 00:07:16,54 that's about all I have I'd like that everyone to come out are like up lots of 77 00:07:16,55 --> 00:07:21,14 people we're going to have the show I think the sheriff is going to be there to 78 00:07:21,67 --> 00:07:26,10 show you where to go we're going to have some Boy Scouts or to help you fight your 79 00:07:26,11 --> 00:07:32,65 car so bring your blanket bring your fold up chair. Come out enjoy yourself and in 80 00:07:32,66 --> 00:07:33,83 closing I'll say we have 81 00:07:33,84 --> 00:07:39,79 a few openings at the American Legion if anyone would like to join our post. 82 00:07:40,97 --> 00:07:45,92 Let us know we are more than welcome you. Any questions. 83 00:07:48,47 --> 00:07:52,43 Right oh. The American Legion is also has 84 00:07:52,44 --> 00:07:58,64 a flea market this weekend. Down at the post it's an annual fair there's 85 00:07:59,13 --> 00:08:03,56 hundreds of things down there millions of things I think but would like to see this 86 00:08:03,57 --> 00:08:09,58 weekend Friday and Saturday done at the Legion post to participate in our free 87 00:08:09,59 --> 00:08:16,44 market free. Anything else I should say. Bill Bill Bill thank you 88 00:08:16,68 --> 00:08:18,79 thank you for your efforts on this and taking this on as 89 00:08:18,80 --> 00:08:24,65 a project I think this is really helping to bring attention to those individuals 90 00:08:25,53 --> 00:08:30,51 who. Lived in and around this community and the service that they perform for this 91 00:08:30,52 --> 00:08:36,81 country and to have them recognized appropriately like you're doing I think is at 92 00:08:36,82 --> 00:08:40,52 bare minimum things that we should be doing and I really appreciate and I know this 93 00:08:40,53 --> 00:08:44,96 board appreciates that effort and we look forward to that good weather we're going 94 00:08:44,97 --> 00:08:50,74 to hold you to that on the thirtieth and we'll make sure that we also get some 95 00:08:51,34 --> 00:08:58,19 capture some photographs. And get some directions on our website so that we 96 00:08:58,20 --> 00:09:02,81 can have that for our residents to see and hopefully encourage more to come I like 97 00:09:02,82 --> 00:09:03,10 to say 98 00:09:03,11 --> 00:09:06,95 a note in your column I read it every week how to write fact that you know to my 99 00:09:06,96 --> 00:09:11,25 column it will be thank you very much right Bill thank you very much thank you 100 00:09:11,26 --> 00:09:17,44 thank you all right thank you for allowing 101 00:09:17,45 --> 00:09:22,76 a couple of minutes to deliver that very important message clerk to please call the 102 00:09:22,77 --> 00:09:29,59 roll call the fountain here Methley will be here shortly more here 103 00:09:30,48 --> 00:09:36,47 is the absence thank you very much next move to why many or most of you are here. 104 00:09:37,51 --> 00:09:43,87 To please read the legal for our public hearing to consider acceptance of the mixed 105 00:09:43,88 --> 00:09:48,76 use development manual adoption of the mixed use district zoning ordinance and 106 00:09:48,77 --> 00:09:54,08 amending the zoning ordinance zoning map of the town of Penfield the legal notice 107 00:09:54,09 --> 00:09:58,87 was published in the Penfield post on April twenty first two thousand and sixteen 108 00:09:59,25 --> 00:10:04,63 and posted on the town's website in town's bulletin board. Hundred eighty five 109 00:10:04,72 --> 00:10:09,69 postcards were mailed. Thank you very much Mr Hart was this is partly before the 110 00:10:09,70 --> 00:10:14,15 war that. I'm not going to take a lot of time because we've got 111 00:10:14,90 --> 00:10:20,20 a number of members of staff and our consultant that will highlight the everything 112 00:10:20,21 --> 00:10:26,81 that has taken place I will say that this this project one might say started 113 00:10:27,26 --> 00:10:33,48 ten years ago or more when we put together the two fifty quarter study from there 114 00:10:33,52 --> 00:10:38,08 we wanted to the comprehensive plan and then within the comprehensive plan we had 115 00:10:38,09 --> 00:10:42,82 done a FIDE four areas for mixed use and this board put together 116 00:10:43,14 --> 00:10:50,09 a committee of residents to study the whole mixed use concept and to come back with 117 00:10:50,19 --> 00:10:56,66 recommendations so I just gave you about ten or twelve years of history and less 118 00:10:56,67 --> 00:11:00,88 than thirty seconds but more importantly what I want to do is I want to turn the 119 00:11:00,89 --> 00:11:06,21 microphone and podium over to Mark Valentine Mark Valentinus our town and near and 120 00:11:06,22 --> 00:11:07,95 director of planning there are 121 00:11:07,96 --> 00:11:11,96 a number of other gentlemen that as we go through he and he will in fact introduce 122 00:11:12,31 --> 00:11:14,38 and we're going to give you 123 00:11:14,42 --> 00:11:20,00 a little bit more detail but most importantly once we do the presentation this is 124 00:11:20,01 --> 00:11:26,77 really for you to offer up comments and feedback to us so with that Mr 125 00:11:26,78 --> 00:11:31,48 Valentine the floor is yours thank you Mr Supervisor and it's great to see such 126 00:11:31,49 --> 00:11:37,66 a an audience here tonight for this like to you know welcome everybody to the 127 00:11:37,67 --> 00:11:42,91 public hearing night for the mixed use development district. Supervisor the phone 128 00:11:42,92 --> 00:11:47,92 had shared this has been going on for several years and Jim custom will be getting 129 00:11:47,93 --> 00:11:49,76 up shortly after me to share 130 00:11:49,77 --> 00:11:53,75 a little bit about the history he's our director of Developmental Services give the 131 00:11:53,76 --> 00:11:57,66 background about the two fifty quarter study talked about how this is been spoken 132 00:11:57,67 --> 00:12:03,23 about in the comprehensive plan and kind of leading us up to why we started it down 133 00:12:03,24 --> 00:12:06,17 the road with mixed use after him we do have 134 00:12:06,18 --> 00:12:12,34 a consultant Jim soaps. He was the committee's consultant throughout the project 135 00:12:13,13 --> 00:12:15,16 helping us through the mixed use piece and he has 136 00:12:15,17 --> 00:12:19,65 a lot of history experience with that so he will talk about why mixed use where 137 00:12:19,66 --> 00:12:23,31 that's coming from you know what other parts of the country are doing and you know 138 00:12:23,32 --> 00:12:28,41 what we're looking to implement with his proposal. Second or senior template or 139 00:12:28,42 --> 00:12:33,20 will be getting up after that he walked the board through the documents all of the 140 00:12:33,21 --> 00:12:37,00 documents are on line and we've kept that up to date as we've gone through this 141 00:12:37,01 --> 00:12:42,31 project having the the manual up as we've gone through drafts even as we've tried 142 00:12:42,32 --> 00:12:46,87 to be very open about the process as we've gone along and it shouldn't be new to 143 00:12:47,28 --> 00:12:51,82 anybody that it's been interested where this document is come from and what we're 144 00:12:52,06 --> 00:12:56,94 proposing the current documents been up since September and then we've also had the 145 00:12:56,95 --> 00:13:01,81 ordnance on the line and tonight's presentation there are many slides that have 146 00:13:01,82 --> 00:13:02,51 a lot of text on 147 00:13:02,52 --> 00:13:07,76 a lot of Mersenne if it's this presentation will be put up on line after this 148 00:13:07,77 --> 00:13:12,61 meeting as well so you know don't get hung up on whether you can read every line we 149 00:13:12,62 --> 00:13:12,86 know there's 150 00:13:12,87 --> 00:13:19,26 a lot of text and some pages some are just there for for reference so. Also 151 00:13:19,92 --> 00:13:25,39 get into you know what's before the board. Through this process basically there's 152 00:13:25,40 --> 00:13:28,67 a proposal from the committee to create 153 00:13:28,68 --> 00:13:34,73 a new zoning ordinance for mixed use which if adopted in rezoning went ahead would 154 00:13:34,79 --> 00:13:38,66 amend the official zoning map and then there's an actual manual that goes along 155 00:13:38,67 --> 00:13:42,42 with the ordinance that is referenced it would be possibly the acceptance of mixed 156 00:13:42,43 --> 00:13:47,87 use manual once we kind of run through all that. Get up at the end of it do 157 00:13:47,88 --> 00:13:52,66 a little bit about the next steps of you know if you know the town board decides to 158 00:13:52,66 --> 00:13:56,13 move ahead you know one of the next steps get into seeker and some other things 159 00:13:56,61 --> 00:14:02,45 obviously question and answer session public comment input as well as hopefully 160 00:14:02,45 --> 00:14:06,48 some committee members put as well. It would like to acknowledge 161 00:14:06,71 --> 00:14:12,05 a lot of people as part of this this is been many years in the making it's been 162 00:14:12,06 --> 00:14:14,67 interactions with the state of the county D.O.T. 163 00:14:15,25 --> 00:14:16,99 Can't matter county parks department 164 00:14:17,85 --> 00:14:24,69 a neighborhood Representatives as well as there are Committee and like to put that 165 00:14:24,70 --> 00:14:28,95 out there from the beginning we had three steering committees and in Jim we'll get 166 00:14:28,96 --> 00:14:34,48 into that little bit more but this is the committee's presentation this is their 167 00:14:34,49 --> 00:14:38,51 document staff is presenting it to you tonight but this came from the committee 168 00:14:39,01 --> 00:14:43,57 this came and what they put forward staff was there to help facilitate you know 169 00:14:44,27 --> 00:14:49,21 help move the project along but were present in their work tonight and hopefully 170 00:14:49,77 --> 00:14:54,44 you see some of the be here and if there's questions from that. Also like to 171 00:14:54,45 --> 00:14:58,18 recognize that your buttons easier this evening this was made possible by 172 00:14:58,19 --> 00:15:00,43 a regional grant from G.T.C. 173 00:15:01,00 --> 00:15:05,95 To get this going they're looking at different types of uses to deal with traffic 174 00:15:06,66 --> 00:15:12,43 to look at you know reducing urban sprawl So this was a first of its kind for G.T.C. 175 00:15:12,44 --> 00:15:17,28 To to sponsor planning study for something like this normally they work on road 176 00:15:17,29 --> 00:15:22,61 projects and other things more involved with the transportation end of it. So some 177 00:15:22,62 --> 00:15:25,84 of the objectives we originally started out with the project was identifying the 178 00:15:25,85 --> 00:15:26,66 study areas 179 00:15:27,04 --> 00:15:31,01 a comprehensive plan and again Jim will get more into that recommended looking at 180 00:15:31,02 --> 00:15:35,54 four different areas the Four Corners sales lending which are was 181 00:15:35,55 --> 00:15:38,87 a mix you serious today also talked about two fifteen minutes 182 00:15:38,88 --> 00:15:42,73 a lake and we will reference minute to Lake in the discussion this evening for that 183 00:15:42,74 --> 00:15:46,44 was a large part of our discussions that has subsequently been sold off to 184 00:15:46,45 --> 00:15:51,17 a private individual who is asked for it not to be rezoned at this time we preserve 185 00:15:51,18 --> 00:15:56,52 that work so it's not lost but that may come up again in the future. We did take 186 00:15:56,53 --> 00:16:01,27 a look at all the parcels along that two fifty corridor what might be eligible for 187 00:16:01,70 --> 00:16:07,21 more potential for rezoning we drafted the mixed use development manual and part of 188 00:16:07,22 --> 00:16:08,76 that is for G.T.C. 189 00:16:08,77 --> 00:16:11,31 Is to provide that back to them so that's 190 00:16:11,32 --> 00:16:14,88 a deliverable at the end of this project no matter what happens is deliverable back 191 00:16:14,89 --> 00:16:15,66 to G.T.C. 192 00:16:15,67 --> 00:16:20,48 Is that mixed use manual that they could you know pass along to other communities 193 00:16:20,49 --> 00:16:27,16 for them to possibly implement something similar pretty legislation. We created 194 00:16:27,17 --> 00:16:30,87 in an ordinance to go for this project it would create 195 00:16:30,88 --> 00:16:36,85 a new zoning district if this proposal moved ahead within our code so similar to 196 00:16:36,86 --> 00:16:39,44 the general business being our other residential This would be 197 00:16:39,45 --> 00:16:45,62 a new thing that could be implemented throughout the town and then obviously coming 198 00:16:45,63 --> 00:16:49,65 to tonight's meeting is presenting the committee's work kind of the combination of 199 00:16:49,66 --> 00:16:56,59 all that to the town board having the public hearing and in moving that along. So 200 00:16:57,47 --> 00:16:57,97 just kind of 201 00:16:57,98 --> 00:17:04,09 a quick review you know why did we decide to do mixed use where did it come from 202 00:17:04,95 --> 00:17:07,26 obviously wasn't something we just you know picked out of the year and said you 203 00:17:07,27 --> 00:17:10,43 know this would be a great spot for it. We did have 204 00:17:10,44 --> 00:17:14,55 a two fifty quarter study and they did start back in two thousand and eight that 205 00:17:14,56 --> 00:17:18,23 looked at this quarter all the way from Webster down to Victor analyze the area 206 00:17:18,24 --> 00:17:22,55 looked at basically have to state highways between route to fifty and in Atlantic 207 00:17:22,56 --> 00:17:27,39 Avenue is the intersection of two state highways and doing planning looking ahead 208 00:17:27,83 --> 00:17:31,70 every property wouldn't tunnel Penfield hazard and underlined zoning to it so now 209 00:17:31,71 --> 00:17:35,85 the question always comes up you know we like it to be harmful we like to remain 210 00:17:35,86 --> 00:17:41,42 that way if it has its own into it has the potential for development so looking at 211 00:17:41,43 --> 00:17:46,20 what is the best option for the town of Penfield moving forward. If it's going to 212 00:17:46,21 --> 00:17:50,07 develop into something some day the whole intent of this was to kind of get ahead 213 00:17:50,08 --> 00:17:55,33 of it do something for Smart Growth look at controlling sprawl also providing 214 00:17:55,34 --> 00:18:00,41 things there tax positive for the community as we look at planing 215 00:18:00,74 --> 00:18:05,22 a lot of the current layout we had generated after the war so in the in the fifty's 216 00:18:05,54 --> 00:18:09,97 everybody moved out of the city everyone of their half acre in the country moved 217 00:18:09,98 --> 00:18:13,57 out and we kept building roads and building roads and spreading now we're finding 218 00:18:13,58 --> 00:18:17,44 that more and more people are not looking for that lifestyle not looking to to live 219 00:18:17,45 --> 00:18:20,95 in that and we're they were missing out on our seniors and are missing out on our 220 00:18:21,07 --> 00:18:25,81 young professionals they want to either agent in the community remain here don't 221 00:18:25,82 --> 00:18:26,36 want to maintain 222 00:18:26,37 --> 00:18:31,68 a four bedroom house on an acre lot but want to live in the community but also 223 00:18:31,69 --> 00:18:37,36 looking at health healthy living something that's sustainable as we look at urban 224 00:18:37,37 --> 00:18:40,83 sprawl that's something that that actually is unsustainable and will have numbers 225 00:18:40,84 --> 00:18:44,97 showing that later on as you build more roads of half acre lots half acre lots 226 00:18:45,57 --> 00:18:46,08 that's actually 227 00:18:46,09 --> 00:18:49,91 a tax negative to the community so we're looking at something that makes sense 228 00:18:50,41 --> 00:18:55,96 targets those areas we're looking at. And also and we do have all the commercial 229 00:18:55,97 --> 00:19:01,98 corridor areas in the town this border is you know has been cognizant of making 230 00:19:01,99 --> 00:19:05,47 sure we're sustainable with that but ninety two percent of our community is all 231 00:19:05,48 --> 00:19:10,57 residential homes sooner to diversify the tax base you look at other areas of 232 00:19:10,61 --> 00:19:15,19 whether it's commercial office space or something else scuse me to help supplement 233 00:19:15,20 --> 00:19:21,78 that tax base so with that zero turn over the next phase to Tim Costello. 234 00:19:24,46 --> 00:19:29,10 And for those that may not know Jim Costello he's our development services director 235 00:19:29,71 --> 00:19:32,08 for the town of Penfield and has been 236 00:19:32,09 --> 00:19:36,93 a member of our team for thirty four years so Mr Costello actually going on thirty 237 00:19:36,94 --> 00:19:38,20 seven you missed 238 00:19:38,21 --> 00:19:44,43 a couple. You were out there I don't my wife tells me I don't do well so apologize 239 00:19:44,44 --> 00:19:48,06 Mr gusto I was lucky enough to have this telephone hire me thirty seven years ago 240 00:19:48,07 --> 00:19:51,39 and I've been very thankful for that said the so I'm just going to give you 241 00:19:51,40 --> 00:19:56,92 a brief history of what has occurred to this point tonight is the combination is as 242 00:19:57,05 --> 00:20:00,60 Tony and Marco stated it's the culmination of ten years of work on the part of 243 00:20:00,61 --> 00:20:05,97 three citizen committees the first one was back in two thousand and five it started 244 00:20:06,94 --> 00:20:09,96 a small committee was created the we were lucky enough to secure 245 00:20:09,97 --> 00:20:11,61 a grant from the G.T.C. 246 00:20:11,90 --> 00:20:15,55 So appalled that microphone right up there Mr Costello So I had never been able to 247 00:20:15,56 --> 00:20:20,71 use the gag Tucker I've got that nailed I thought better that's perfect great so 248 00:20:20,72 --> 00:20:22,94 we're looking up to receive a grant from the G.T.C. 249 00:20:23,00 --> 00:20:26,56 And this the grant was really among the three towns of running I'm sorry about 250 00:20:26,81 --> 00:20:32,10 Webster Penfield and Parrington to study the corridor from the lake right on down 251 00:20:32,11 --> 00:20:37,09 to Route ninety six. Their intent was to look at the existing and propose 252 00:20:37,10 --> 00:20:41,60 conditions along that corridor based on potential growth rates that were occurring 253 00:20:41,61 --> 00:20:45,91 in the three towns they looked at existing conditions and then interpreted what 254 00:20:45,92 --> 00:20:50,70 needed to be done to inquire to accommodate future growth. During that study it was 255 00:20:50,71 --> 00:20:51,54 determined that 256 00:20:51,55 --> 00:20:56,76 a Penfield had more vacant land than the other two towns combined along that 257 00:20:56,77 --> 00:21:01,44 corridor or so the town board interested in knowing what potentially could occur 258 00:21:01,45 --> 00:21:03,11 along that corridor or for 259 00:21:03,12 --> 00:21:07,00 a higher and best use rather than just single family detached housing along the 260 00:21:07,01 --> 00:21:10,21 entire court or. Compose 261 00:21:10,22 --> 00:21:15,91 a committee to look at land use analysis as part of an addendum to the traffic 262 00:21:15,92 --> 00:21:17,50 study that the T.T.C. 263 00:21:17,51 --> 00:21:21,47 Was preparing So as a result of that the committee worked for about 264 00:21:21,48 --> 00:21:22,15 a year year and 265 00:21:22,16 --> 00:21:27,82 a half to determine the better uses along the corridor or as market stated earlier 266 00:21:27,82 --> 00:21:31,33 . You know building single family homes is a kind of 267 00:21:31,34 --> 00:21:34,76 a tax negative situation where you've got to take care of infrastructure you've got 268 00:21:34,77 --> 00:21:38,10 to deal with more students coming to the school district so as 269 00:21:38,11 --> 00:21:41,55 a result we looked at alternatives the other thing the board was concerned about 270 00:21:41,56 --> 00:21:42,24 was we don't have 271 00:21:42,25 --> 00:21:46,77 a lot of. Commercial development in the town of the thirteen thousand parcels and 272 00:21:46,78 --> 00:21:51,19 Penfield about three hundred eighty persons are zoned for commercial industrial use 273 00:21:51,83 --> 00:21:55,99 and because over the several years now that development is occurred in around these 274 00:21:56,00 --> 00:21:59,55 commercial areas it's not reasonable to expand those areas into residential 275 00:21:59,56 --> 00:22:04,34 settings where we have existing residences and such close proximity we've had to 276 00:22:04,35 --> 00:22:05,00 wrestle with that on 277 00:22:05,01 --> 00:22:09,28 a couple of occasions over the last ten years or so the thought was not to have any 278 00:22:09,29 --> 00:22:14,20 more big box development in new areas of commercial development but to really look 279 00:22:14,21 --> 00:22:16,48 at residential development at 280 00:22:16,49 --> 00:22:20,76 a different scale with alternative housing and also provide some types of mix of 281 00:22:20,77 --> 00:22:25,64 use to allow for commercial uses that are scaled more to the area along to fifty 282 00:22:25,65 --> 00:22:26,32 and not so much on 283 00:22:26,33 --> 00:22:30,81 a regionalized basis like you would see in other towns such as Henrietta or vector 284 00:22:30,82 --> 00:22:32,12 some of their towns are experiencing 285 00:22:32,13 --> 00:22:36,45 a lot of growth so the committee got together for a period of about 286 00:22:36,46 --> 00:22:38,11 a year year and a half and came back with 287 00:22:38,12 --> 00:22:42,41 a recommendation for the land use analysis that the town should consider something 288 00:22:42,42 --> 00:22:43,73 called a hamlet and it would be 289 00:22:43,74 --> 00:22:48,15 a mixed use development it would not be single family has been has been proposed 290 00:22:48,16 --> 00:22:51,28 out there for the last thirty years but it would be 291 00:22:51,29 --> 00:22:53,17 a mix of uses that would provide more of 292 00:22:53,18 --> 00:22:58,72 a connectivity more walking that type of thing and not so much automobile dreaded. 293 00:23:00,08 --> 00:23:05,49 Surely after that every year or every ten years the town town of Penfield reviews 294 00:23:05,50 --> 00:23:11,67 its use its Thank you Mary reviews its. Comprehensive planning going into the 295 00:23:11,68 --> 00:23:17,45 comprehensive plan the corridor committee had made some recommendations regarding 296 00:23:18,28 --> 00:23:23,66 the use of the corridor or as mixed use. As we got to the point where the 297 00:23:23,67 --> 00:23:27,76 comprehensive plan was coming about for review for the two thousand and ten period 298 00:23:27,76 --> 00:23:33,87 . That committee was created by the town board that committee then when I had and 299 00:23:33,91 --> 00:23:38,44 looked at the recommendations of the court or study and the committee that prepared 300 00:23:38,45 --> 00:23:41,95 it and agreed with the fact that it would probably be appropriate to have 301 00:23:41,96 --> 00:23:48,11 a mixed use development not only on route to fifty but also at the the former 302 00:23:48,98 --> 00:23:53,75 quarry down on Penfield road the Sandman quarry they were also looking at the 303 00:23:54,20 --> 00:23:58,81 landing district on Empire Boulevard and along with the four corners. Both of which 304 00:23:58,82 --> 00:24:02,78 are actually mixed use districts in their own right at this time. We did move 305 00:24:02,79 --> 00:24:08,16 forward with the committee the committee then did make recommendations that there 306 00:24:08,17 --> 00:24:13,16 should be an excuse in those areas as an implementation feature of the 307 00:24:13,68 --> 00:24:18,01 comprehensive plan here you see I don't expect it read any of this but it certainly 308 00:24:18,02 --> 00:24:22,12 is available to you on line these are the recommendations that are discussed mixed 309 00:24:22,13 --> 00:24:27,18 use development and where they should be within the town. After the committee was 310 00:24:27,22 --> 00:24:32,91 in here shows the districts as to where they were proposed. Again to fifty being 311 00:24:32,92 --> 00:24:39,88 the the major one now as market noted the property at. The same inquiry 312 00:24:39,89 --> 00:24:43,78 was recently purchased and the owners of the property it indicated they were no 313 00:24:43,79 --> 00:24:46,90 longer interested in having development on that site and would like to keep it in 314 00:24:46,91 --> 00:24:51,11 its current state their intent is to maintain it is it is at this point time and 315 00:24:51,12 --> 00:24:51,93 not developed for 316 00:24:51,94 --> 00:24:57,30 a period of time if at all so we've gotten to the point now where we talk about 317 00:24:57,96 --> 00:25:02,51 Again we talked about fiscal analysis as it relates to development of 318 00:25:03,21 --> 00:25:07,22 a residential commercial and agricultural land and obviously you can read more 319 00:25:07,23 --> 00:25:12,77 about that in the comprehensive plan. After the comprehensive plan. 320 00:25:14,05 --> 00:25:18,78 Move forward became apparent that this would be the area with the most interest for 321 00:25:19,32 --> 00:25:19,54 for 322 00:25:19,55 --> 00:25:24,58 a mixed use development within the tallent surprised me three hundred sixty acres. 323 00:25:25,61 --> 00:25:29,39 We had several public hearings on the on the comprehensive plan there seem to be 324 00:25:29,40 --> 00:25:35,51 support of the communities part for this. The plan was eventually Here's the 325 00:25:35,52 --> 00:25:40,80 property at the Dolomite that has been sold. Here the other two properties of the 326 00:25:40,81 --> 00:25:45,92 four corners and Empire Boulevard. And I want to go back a second and just talk 327 00:25:45,93 --> 00:25:50,26 a little bit about the fact that that was adopted by the town board one of the 328 00:25:50,27 --> 00:25:53,67 implementation features was to look at creating 329 00:25:53,68 --> 00:25:57,36 a new district creating the boundaries of a new district and creating 330 00:25:57,37 --> 00:26:00,18 a zoning ordinance to accommodate it along with 331 00:26:00,19 --> 00:26:03,80 a manual that would give direction to those who would like develop within it the 332 00:26:03,81 --> 00:26:05,21 town board then when I hadn't created 333 00:26:05,22 --> 00:26:09,05 a steering committee for the mixed use development district for several people here 334 00:26:09,58 --> 00:26:16,11 in this audience tonight we thank them all for attending and supporting it. And 335 00:26:16,12 --> 00:26:23,04 it's gotten us to the point now where. We are at the public hearing process the Tom 336 00:26:23,05 --> 00:26:26,62 board did take into account the people that lived around the property as you can 337 00:26:26,63 --> 00:26:31,10 see here it's not very easy to see but you can see that they did select people for 338 00:26:31,11 --> 00:26:35,49 the committees to oversee that the development of the district that were most 339 00:26:35,50 --> 00:26:41,36 impacted by the area. Obviously the two fifty areas the area in orange and then the 340 00:26:41,37 --> 00:26:47,42 blue one is the the sad man lake property. And with that I'm going to turn it over 341 00:26:47,46 --> 00:26:53,49 now to Jim sites who will give you process on the use of mixed use in this area 342 00:26:53,69 --> 00:26:57,64 thank you. Thank you it's 343 00:26:57,65 --> 00:27:00,75 a pleasure to be here I actually think this is the first time I've been to pin feel 344 00:27:00,76 --> 00:27:06,99 worried as it's as an snowed so appreciate that. Just very quickly I'm with same 345 00:27:07,00 --> 00:27:12,04 kind of studios also on the project was. And M.R.V. 346 00:27:12,05 --> 00:27:18,07 Group which will be more about when we look at the environmental issues what is 347 00:27:18,08 --> 00:27:22,32 next you say it's one of those jokes it's kind of like who's buried in Grant's tomb 348 00:27:22,33 --> 00:27:23,31 it's kind of 349 00:27:23,32 --> 00:27:30,19 a no brainer makes use is the idea of variety different use is brought together 350 00:27:30,20 --> 00:27:30,82 to create 351 00:27:30,83 --> 00:27:36,00 a pedestrian scale development the idea is you're emphasizing walkability. 352 00:27:37,50 --> 00:27:39,07 Compatible uses and there's 353 00:27:39,08 --> 00:27:44,34 a synergy of the uses so that you come you park your car wants you do 354 00:27:44,35 --> 00:27:49,29 a variety of things there rather than driving your car for each activity very 355 00:27:49,30 --> 00:27:53,40 quickly Penfield is not. Very different than 356 00:27:53,41 --> 00:27:59,35 a lot of other communities it was it was developed starting in the fifty's on an 357 00:27:59,36 --> 00:28:05,18 automobile automobile driven approach that's when the G.I.'s came back we had G.I. 358 00:28:05,19 --> 00:28:10,44 Bill cars were affordable subdivisions started to be developed the problem with 359 00:28:10,45 --> 00:28:14,94 that is it's very automobile intensity of so the more development you have the more 360 00:28:14,95 --> 00:28:18,32 cars you have the more congestion you have. There's 361 00:28:18,33 --> 00:28:22,27 a lot of benefits of make shoes develop and we highlighted just some I'm not going 362 00:28:22,28 --> 00:28:25,98 to read these but to highlighted some of those and read one of the things it does 363 00:28:25,99 --> 00:28:31,38 is it provides a diversity of housing type so rather than having kind of 364 00:28:31,39 --> 00:28:33,92 a homogeneous type of housing you have 365 00:28:33,93 --> 00:28:38,84 a lot of different housing types for different types of users it does conserve land 366 00:28:38,85 --> 00:28:44,23 and open space include an agricultural land natural resources it reduces 367 00:28:44,24 --> 00:28:49,39 infrastructure costs pretty significantly so rather than developing all along to 368 00:28:49,40 --> 00:28:54,35 fifty you develop in clusters in certain areas so that allows you to concentrate 369 00:28:54,36 --> 00:28:59,14 your infrastructure development. Like we said earlier I just said it reduces 370 00:28:59,15 --> 00:29:04,62 dependency on the automobile it promotes walkability and it helps to decrease 371 00:29:04,74 --> 00:29:11,29 congestion. So when we talk about smart growth and reducing 372 00:29:11,36 --> 00:29:15,98 sprawl Does couple of things about it Smart Growth Development is usually 373 00:29:15,99 --> 00:29:22,86 a third less infrastructure costs street infrastructure Centuri sewer water 374 00:29:22,87 --> 00:29:29,82 lines gas lines that sort of thing. Develop just over time Smart Growth 375 00:29:29,83 --> 00:29:36,30 basically reduces the amount of money tax payers have to pay by ten percent and one 376 00:29:36,31 --> 00:29:37,15 of the big things is 377 00:29:37,16 --> 00:29:42,40 a Smart Growth Development generates ten times more tax revenue per acre than 378 00:29:42,41 --> 00:29:45,88 conventional subdivision suburban development and in 379 00:29:45,89 --> 00:29:48,98 a place like Penfield where you have such 380 00:29:48,99 --> 00:29:53,03 a high percentage of land that's residential oriented it provides 381 00:29:53,04 --> 00:29:58,07 a great level of diversity from the tax base so show you examples have you been to 382 00:29:58,08 --> 00:30:02,05 Cornhill. We were going to take 383 00:30:02,06 --> 00:30:07,83 a field trip to corn hills in Rochester it's right on the river it's a combination 384 00:30:07,84 --> 00:30:12,79 a mix use it at about one hundred thirty apartments about fifteen thousand square 385 00:30:12,80 --> 00:30:18,70 feet of office fifteen thousand square feet of commercial right on the river so it 386 00:30:18,71 --> 00:30:24,93 does have both boat access and great views from the from the river this is 387 00:30:24,94 --> 00:30:27,78 Bainbridge Island this isn't Washington State so if you take 388 00:30:27,79 --> 00:30:32,55 a ferry from Seattle straight west you get Bainbridge Island I always said they 389 00:30:32,56 --> 00:30:32,84 spent 390 00:30:32,85 --> 00:30:37,99 a lot of money to look quaint so Bainbridge Island has this really incredible mix 391 00:30:38,00 --> 00:30:44,69 use in there downtown area it's almost all commercial retail on the bottom levels 392 00:30:44,73 --> 00:30:50,99 and apartments are condominiums on the top levels. That Smyrna market village in 393 00:30:51,00 --> 00:30:55,35 Georgia that's where I live I live over on the left hand side so if you're in the 394 00:30:55,36 --> 00:30:59,91 neighborhood stop by. This is this the market village and give you 395 00:30:59,92 --> 00:31:03,59 a broader view of it Smyrna market village was a little different than 396 00:31:03,60 --> 00:31:07,99 a lot of mixed uses it started with the idea we want to develop 397 00:31:08,00 --> 00:31:13,48 a downtown so it's municipal driven so you come into an entrance there's 398 00:31:13,49 --> 00:31:14,47 a park or there's 399 00:31:14,85 --> 00:31:21,78 a. Restaurant on both sides or some Main Street office or commercial 400 00:31:21,79 --> 00:31:27,11 down the bottom part residential up on top and at the end of the street there's the 401 00:31:27,12 --> 00:31:32,45 city hall or on the back inside there's commercial buildings and on the back side 402 00:31:32,46 --> 00:31:33,05 of that there is 403 00:31:33,06 --> 00:31:37,94 a library and community center so that's really kind of the heart of Smyrna and 404 00:31:37,95 --> 00:31:43,61 that's been around since about two thousand this is the walk it's fairly it's also 405 00:31:43,62 --> 00:31:44,92 in Georgia has 406 00:31:44,93 --> 00:31:49,84 a very different approach it's much more urban most of the structures in the five 407 00:31:49,85 --> 00:31:54,92 stories so it's either the first floor of the bottom two floors it's red it's 408 00:31:54,93 --> 00:32:00,71 retail or commercial the upper two per three sometimes four levels are 409 00:32:01,06 --> 00:32:05,46 condominiums or sometimes town homes and then behind that on the other side you 410 00:32:05,47 --> 00:32:10,33 have more town homes and then behind that there are single family residential. 411 00:32:12,51 --> 00:32:19,29 This is market Commons this is in Myrtle Beach South Carolina. So this is 412 00:32:19,30 --> 00:32:24,35 actually the main boulevard going through to true market comment this was built in 413 00:32:24,36 --> 00:32:30,42 two thousand and eight it has one hundred fifteen acres multiuse development so 414 00:32:30,43 --> 00:32:36,21 it's mostly town homes small stores restaurants that sort of thing this is just 415 00:32:36,22 --> 00:32:40,29 another image and one of the things that they're one of the things that we did in 416 00:32:40,30 --> 00:32:45,95 the design guidelines for misuse design guidelines was looking at how you perceive 417 00:32:45,96 --> 00:32:47,71 scale for example this is 418 00:32:47,72 --> 00:32:51,70 a four story building but if you notice they actually take the top two levels and 419 00:32:51,71 --> 00:32:55,19 step it back so it's part of that is to keep the idea of 420 00:32:55,20 --> 00:33:02,08 a pedestrian scale make it more walkable make it more comfortable. This 421 00:33:02,09 --> 00:33:06,10 is bright leaf in Durham North Carolina there are 422 00:33:06,11 --> 00:33:10,81 a series of historic structures that were renovated and most of these have been 423 00:33:10,82 --> 00:33:15,64 developed into restaurants commercial space some office space there's 424 00:33:15,65 --> 00:33:16,36 a few there's 425 00:33:16,37 --> 00:33:23,29 a little bit of residential space there's well but it and it's all built it's all 426 00:33:23,30 --> 00:33:29,00 based upon this square. This is blue black square this is 427 00:33:29,01 --> 00:33:33,89 a West Haven Connecticut So again five Stories one of things you'll find about 428 00:33:33,90 --> 00:33:39,74 Makes use is you don't often find them less than three stories so three to five 429 00:33:39,75 --> 00:33:44,82 stories seems to be kind of an optimum height for maximizing what you need to do 430 00:33:44,83 --> 00:33:44,99 from 431 00:33:45,00 --> 00:33:51,75 a fire safety standpoint versus economics. Blue black square has 432 00:33:51,76 --> 00:33:56,27 a about one hundred loops sorry went too far it has about 433 00:33:56,28 --> 00:34:02,58 a million square feet of internal space that has its commercial that's all for this 434 00:34:02,87 --> 00:34:08,95 that's residential and also mixed in with this development you do have them in the 435 00:34:08,96 --> 00:34:15,13 municipal uses the town hall the library the city police station is there as well. 436 00:34:16,56 --> 00:34:22,49 This is Belmont Square this is also in Georgia the Belmont Square is interesting 437 00:34:22,50 --> 00:34:25,97 because it's the upper left hand corner what they did first it's about 438 00:34:25,98 --> 00:34:31,33 a forty eight acre development so first thing they did in the mixed use development 439 00:34:31,34 --> 00:34:36,32 is they develop an elementary school and the elementary schools the driving force 440 00:34:36,33 --> 00:34:42,74 for the rest of the development so the lower left hand corner those are those are 441 00:34:42,75 --> 00:34:48,81 apartment complexes so there's about three hundred apartments that are adjacent to 442 00:34:48,82 --> 00:34:50,10 the school and what's 443 00:34:50,27 --> 00:34:54,65 a little different from Nick's use is that the apartments all leased out in about 444 00:34:54,66 --> 00:35:00,00 a month and they were mostly by young families who had small children who went to 445 00:35:00,01 --> 00:35:06,19 school so the majority of the people leasing the apartments don't own cars the 446 00:35:06,23 --> 00:35:11,00 fathers take the bus to work the mother does everything that they need to do with 447 00:35:11,01 --> 00:35:13,10 kids within the makes you so it's all 448 00:35:13,41 --> 00:35:16,62 a walkable community the other view so there's 449 00:35:16,63 --> 00:35:21,31 a commercial up on the upper right hand corner there's about fifty single family 450 00:35:21,32 --> 00:35:25,43 homes what's interesting there's not any town homes in this there's a difference 451 00:35:25,44 --> 00:35:31,68 a separation of three to five feet between single family buildings partly because 452 00:35:31,69 --> 00:35:37,47 that makes it easier to get loans and it's also easier to get to get fire insurance 453 00:35:38,14 --> 00:35:42,37 this is the kind of the plan view of that and the school is kind of in the upper 454 00:35:42,88 --> 00:35:46,74 left hand side of that and that brown area that's well the development that's 455 00:35:46,78 --> 00:35:51,78 occurring right now and to pick. Around mixed use developments you'll find other 456 00:35:51,79 --> 00:35:56,20 developments that are current So there's townhomes there's starting to be other 457 00:35:56,21 --> 00:36:00,56 high club high quality zero lot line homes that are being developed around this 458 00:36:00,57 --> 00:36:06,05 area as well. And another local one this is college town I mean even 459 00:36:06,06 --> 00:36:09,50 a college town or kids have been a college town I guess would be 460 00:36:09,51 --> 00:36:15,88 a better question college town has a bookstore Barnes and Noble also has 461 00:36:15,89 --> 00:36:22,12 a Hilton hotel about one hundred thirty rooms or so also has about fifty thousand 462 00:36:22,87 --> 00:36:27,48 commercial system fifty thousand square foot of commercial space and about one 463 00:36:27,49 --> 00:36:32,49 hundred fifty four apartments so it's that really kind of a more urbanized kind of 464 00:36:32,50 --> 00:36:37,14 a mixture of. Mixed use and this is 465 00:36:37,22 --> 00:36:41,82 a view of what that looks like one of the things so you can do 466 00:36:41,83 --> 00:36:46,74 a lot of different types of mix use when we were talking earlier that one of the 467 00:36:46,75 --> 00:36:51,88 most innovative mixes we've seen is industrial and residential makes you so it's 468 00:36:52,20 --> 00:36:53,99 you can put mix uses together in 469 00:36:54,00 --> 00:36:58,56 a lot of different ways but then they have some things in common and these are 470 00:36:58,96 --> 00:37:01,25 a number of principles that they have 471 00:37:01,26 --> 00:37:06,59 a tendency to do they focus on connectivity pedestrian access social interaction 472 00:37:06,97 --> 00:37:12,74 green space healthy living and you know less dependence upon automobiles more on 473 00:37:12,75 --> 00:37:17,27 getting outside walking to meeting your neighbors so it's that kind of synergy that 474 00:37:17,28 --> 00:37:21,43 I think we were looking for as we were starting to develop these mixed use 475 00:37:21,44 --> 00:37:22,15 districts. 476 00:37:31,09 --> 00:37:37,86 Sector singer is part of our planning partment and works very closely with Mark 477 00:37:37,87 --> 00:37:44,27 Valentine and has been involved with the town now for those three years that I left 478 00:37:45,10 --> 00:37:52,06 off and on Mr Costello plus to. Write thank 479 00:37:52,07 --> 00:37:52,13 you 480 00:37:52,14 --> 00:37:56,44 a survivor Thank you Jim Thank you everyone for coming my part tonight will be to 481 00:37:56,45 --> 00:38:02,12 discuss. What our achievements were through this project through the education 482 00:38:02,13 --> 00:38:04,62 process that Jim was able to provide to us as 483 00:38:04,63 --> 00:38:08,95 a consultant and what the committee was able to accomplish through the years of 484 00:38:08,96 --> 00:38:11,66 meetings that we endured I know it took 485 00:38:11,67 --> 00:38:16,62 a long time to get here but we're very happy to be here now. First up on the screen 486 00:38:16,63 --> 00:38:21,98 you'll see that the committee members agreed to the parcel be chosen for the 487 00:38:21,99 --> 00:38:26,70 proposed District Area long to fifty. Took some time but we did go through every 488 00:38:26,71 --> 00:38:33,18 parcel to make sure that it would it would fit in that we didn't go too far east to 489 00:38:33,19 --> 00:38:39,84 far south far north just kept our limits within what was there. We also 490 00:38:40,43 --> 00:38:44,20 know the committee also completed the next use manual the final draft version of it 491 00:38:44,21 --> 00:38:44,79 which we mentioned 492 00:38:44,80 --> 00:38:49,23 a couple times that document is going to talk about then the leader slides but 493 00:38:49,24 --> 00:38:50,02 that's basically 494 00:38:50,66 --> 00:38:57,12 a development tool for developers who are trying to propose work in Penfield. And 495 00:38:57,13 --> 00:39:00,07 that documents when presented to the board as part of this Congress as part of this 496 00:39:00,08 --> 00:39:03,83 presentation also was we've mentioned before we have 497 00:39:03,84 --> 00:39:08,07 a draft and excuse district zoning ordinance which is basically the law that would 498 00:39:08,08 --> 00:39:13,12 get adopted to our zoning ordinance the official town code. And all of that is 499 00:39:13,13 --> 00:39:18,16 there it's also to important to know that as we said the man Salt Lake study area 500 00:39:18,17 --> 00:39:23,32 was removed from this project but it. That work that that committee accomplished 501 00:39:24,00 --> 00:39:29,48 has been preserved for future considerations if the owners do become instant 502 00:39:29,49 --> 00:39:33,90 development or if it is sold on to the next property owner so we're not going to 503 00:39:33,91 --> 00:39:40,87 lose that work we have it saved. That effort to not go to waste. Here's our 504 00:39:40,88 --> 00:39:46,47 first slide of the district that we're proposing does include the properties 505 00:39:47,30 --> 00:39:51,36 beginning just north of Wayland around the Y.M.C.A. 506 00:39:51,37 --> 00:39:57,83 Area and extends north to the south side of town feel sorrow. You'll notice that 507 00:39:57,84 --> 00:40:03,63 many of the parcels are included all have fines along to fifty we did not go much 508 00:40:03,64 --> 00:40:09,66 further back beyond that to create this district area total of fifty four parcels 509 00:40:09,67 --> 00:40:14,71 are included in. Total acres is approximately three hundred sixty three acres. 510 00:40:17,13 --> 00:40:20,87 And we are we are close to obviously we're close to 511 00:40:20,94 --> 00:40:25,90 a lot of tunnel land town hall where we are tonight and it's also limited to the 512 00:40:25,91 --> 00:40:31,90 east by what's called perch we have conservation easements over some properties to 513 00:40:31,91 --> 00:40:34,69 the east along streets corners in Dublin Road that have purchased development 514 00:40:34,70 --> 00:40:37,02 rights on as well so again 515 00:40:37,03 --> 00:40:41,33 a sticking to the confinements of what's out there now the natural environment 516 00:40:41,62 --> 00:40:47,100 that's why we have the blue shape before you. Within that zone within the mixed use 517 00:40:48,01 --> 00:40:52,42 district the committee was able to create what's called development zones these 518 00:40:52,43 --> 00:40:55,99 development zones have been broken up into zones A B. And C. 519 00:40:56,81 --> 00:41:03,57 They are designed to help control dictate the 520 00:41:03,58 --> 00:41:09,92 intensity of mixed use development that would be proposed to be built there. 521 00:41:11,07 --> 00:41:16,40 Zone A there outlined in red circles if I can get this here a 522 00:41:16,41 --> 00:41:23,03 a and moving up to intersection Atlantic on North and South Side the 523 00:41:23,04 --> 00:41:28,11 first zone A That I pointed out was where the is where the East Side Y. 524 00:41:28,12 --> 00:41:33,30 Is located along with what comes in Grossman's and across the street where we now 525 00:41:33,31 --> 00:41:33,43 have 526 00:41:33,44 --> 00:41:37,33 a traffic light obviously across from the sidewalk I am going up to Sweet's corners 527 00:41:37,84 --> 00:41:44,84 and I again up to the North Atlantic the Zone A is designed to host that 528 00:41:45,41 --> 00:41:52,12 heavier commercial. Mixed use development where we see our our retail offices our 529 00:41:52,13 --> 00:41:57,05 professional offices. Apartments similar to 530 00:41:57,09 --> 00:42:01,73 a lot of the examples that you was showing it's important to know that and later on 531 00:42:01,74 --> 00:42:08,70 I'll get into this but each zone also has. Restrictions. For 532 00:42:08,71 --> 00:42:12,60 the intensity with that includes the height so it's not all we saw 533 00:42:12,61 --> 00:42:19,21 a lot of examples for five stories. A lot of what the committee looked at was wait 534 00:42:19,68 --> 00:42:23,72 excuse me weighing those options for the building heights because we know it's it's 535 00:42:23,73 --> 00:42:30,12 a sensitive topic there. Five MI five is has been successful in other parts of the 536 00:42:30,13 --> 00:42:36,16 country and in parts of the town and parts of Rochester but. Zone A was actually 537 00:42:36,17 --> 00:42:41,45 limited to four. Through the committee's work and it was step down through zones B. 538 00:42:41,46 --> 00:42:44,98 And C. After that I'll get to that later Zone B. 539 00:42:45,87 --> 00:42:52,47 Is most of the area that has basically the boundary of. The district 540 00:42:53,87 --> 00:42:58,07 everything outside of a. That is designed to be more of 541 00:42:58,08 --> 00:43:05,01 a residential mixed use so offering variety of housing types. So we 542 00:43:05,02 --> 00:43:11,20 look at. Not your typical half acre thirty acre property you're looking at cottage 543 00:43:11,21 --> 00:43:15,53 style homes townhomes apartments again 544 00:43:15,58 --> 00:43:21,09 a variety that would be allowed in one project site not just our typical single 545 00:43:21,10 --> 00:43:24,75 family structure. Zone C. 546 00:43:24,76 --> 00:43:28,53 Is designed to be a transition area and zone C. 547 00:43:29,23 --> 00:43:35,62 Is right along the top. As we approach Penfield sorrowed the zone C. 548 00:43:35,63 --> 00:43:39,64 Is a low density residential and it's designed to give us 549 00:43:39,65 --> 00:43:44,45 a good transition going back to our existing zoning to the north for the are 550 00:43:44,46 --> 00:43:45,12 wanting are 551 00:43:45,13 --> 00:43:52,10 a two zoning districts that are there now. It would help. Maintain the 552 00:43:52,14 --> 00:43:57,77 view shared that current residents have in the area so that larger buildings are 553 00:43:57,78 --> 00:44:00,93 not approaching their front window we see the more of 554 00:44:00,94 --> 00:44:07,90 a typical single family residential home a single A one story 555 00:44:07,91 --> 00:44:09,43 a one family home or maybe 556 00:44:09,44 --> 00:44:13,31 a duplex home but again similar in scale to what they're used to seeing today. 557 00:44:16,03 --> 00:44:21,14 Here's an aerial view of it. Just to give you an idea of what's out there I wish I 558 00:44:21,15 --> 00:44:22,70 had a bigger screen to show everyone 559 00:44:23,14 --> 00:44:27,59 a little more detail but it goes back to what Jim custom was speaking about with 560 00:44:27,63 --> 00:44:34,24 the amount of vacant land that we have along to fifty obviously the southern 561 00:44:34,25 --> 00:44:37,32 portion of this proposed district is built out 562 00:44:37,33 --> 00:44:43,55 a little more but as you travel north it is still vacant is farmed but is vacant 563 00:44:43,56 --> 00:44:49,68 undeveloped land that does provide an actual opportunity for development in that 564 00:44:49,69 --> 00:44:49,79 it's 565 00:44:49,80 --> 00:44:55,09 a blank canvas We're not trying to repurpose what's there or try to fix an old building 566 00:44:55,76 --> 00:44:58,45 that needs a ton of rehabilitation it's 567 00:44:58,46 --> 00:45:02,59 a blank slate it allows the developer to do it right the first time. 568 00:45:07,24 --> 00:45:13,83 We want to present the current zoning also for everyone. Current zoning out there 569 00:45:13,84 --> 00:45:14,45 is are 570 00:45:14,46 --> 00:45:19,83 a two for the most part we have one property to the south it's in the are one and 571 00:45:19,84 --> 00:45:21,87 at the intersection of Atlantic and to fifty we have 572 00:45:21,88 --> 00:45:28,43 a limited business area where we have the gas station over there. Again going back 573 00:45:28,44 --> 00:45:32,11 to what our typical build out is and plan to what we see in our current zoning 574 00:45:32,65 --> 00:45:36,88 single family residential in all of these areas whether it be one acre or two acre 575 00:45:37,14 --> 00:45:41,80 minimum lot sizes if we keep going at this rate it doesn't offer us 576 00:45:41,81 --> 00:45:48,19 a great deal of sustainability. An avi in this is kind of where it starts here on 577 00:45:48,20 --> 00:45:54,41 two fifty and that's why this project has come to be to allow more variety in the 578 00:45:54,42 --> 00:46:01,16 area. And greater diversity there for the future time field we know that 579 00:46:01,70 --> 00:46:07,50 the West Side to fifty is pretty much is almost built out especially with regards 580 00:46:07,51 --> 00:46:13,47 to sewer capacities and these are things that we have to address. Through this 581 00:46:13,48 --> 00:46:17,41 project but we have to look at what's the future going to hold and that's why this 582 00:46:17,42 --> 00:46:19,89 area has been reviewed through this project. 583 00:46:26,67 --> 00:46:31,57 So I started to talk about the restrictions within each zone and we have 584 00:46:31,58 --> 00:46:36,30 a on the following slide two slides are broken up into two so everyone can read it 585 00:46:37,24 --> 00:46:37,47 is 586 00:46:37,48 --> 00:46:43,75 a development zone summary table that's included in the mixed use manual. This gives 587 00:46:43,76 --> 00:46:45,04 you your breakdowns 588 00:46:45,05 --> 00:46:49,96 a very good summary of what would be allowed in each zone with regards to specific 589 00:46:49,97 --> 00:46:54,55 design criteria for site plan design we talked about the minimum number of uses 590 00:46:54,61 --> 00:46:59,45 permitted uses building heights open space requirements parking requirements and 591 00:46:59,46 --> 00:47:06,22 whiling units setbacks building sizes and buffering landscape buffering. You know 592 00:47:07,52 --> 00:47:11,03 other forms of buffering that could include Trailways or just the natural 593 00:47:11,04 --> 00:47:15,04 environment that there may be ponds for storm or infrastructure all these options 594 00:47:15,05 --> 00:47:19,72 allow us to buffer what will be built in the district. 595 00:47:22,30 --> 00:47:27,27 So here's the first half the table the top part. Highlights the meant minimum 596 00:47:27,31 --> 00:47:34,07 number of uses and for Zone A We see that we've classified large 597 00:47:34,08 --> 00:47:38,16 medium and small properties based on their acreage we gave a range 598 00:47:38,86 --> 00:47:44,26 a small property would be something that is less than two acres and for that the 599 00:47:44,27 --> 00:47:49,83 committee was proposing has proposed to it to use at 600 00:47:49,84 --> 00:47:55,34 a minimum for the next use requirement as you move into the large and medium large 601 00:47:55,35 --> 00:47:57,67 being anything over thirty eight years you need 602 00:47:57,68 --> 00:48:03,93 a minimum of four and we the committee chose that because we know that in order for 603 00:48:03,94 --> 00:48:08,79 it to be successful there has to be right and off sometimes too is not enough 604 00:48:09,57 --> 00:48:15,39 sometimes for is not enough. It's up to the developer to find those right uses 605 00:48:16,79 --> 00:48:17,97 for the Boers to take 606 00:48:17,98 --> 00:48:22,76 a look at examine and make sure that they fit what we see in the future for 607 00:48:22,77 --> 00:48:29,47 Penfield Xombi steps down in the number of uses 608 00:48:29,48 --> 00:48:36,33 again based on acreage but again it's more for residential. So if we're 609 00:48:36,33 --> 00:48:36,83 looking at 610 00:48:36,83 --> 00:48:42,23 a small property again two acres or less we'd like to see two or more housing 611 00:48:42,24 --> 00:48:49,03 varieties commercial could be allowed but it won't be as intense as the Zone A and 612 00:48:49,04 --> 00:48:54,85 again as you move up more uses more different housing options for people. And then 613 00:48:54,86 --> 00:48:58,40 again zone C. As a buffer area that would transition back into the are 614 00:48:58,41 --> 00:49:03,16 a two district permitted uses is included in the zoning or the draft is owning 615 00:49:03,17 --> 00:49:09,40 ordinance. That as we capture that later on the presentation permitted uses applies 616 00:49:09,41 --> 00:49:15,96 to all the districts all the zones I'm sorry. Building Heights is at the bottom of 617 00:49:15,97 --> 00:49:22,68 the screen if people can't see it. Was limited to four storeys or fifty five feet 618 00:49:23,44 --> 00:49:27,32 Xombi was limited to three forty five feet in Zone C. 619 00:49:27,33 --> 00:49:32,47 Was limited to two stories. So again it goes to our step back approach to make it 620 00:49:32,48 --> 00:49:38,93 seem like there aren't skyscrapers out there that it fits the area and it's in it's 621 00:49:38,94 --> 00:49:44,21 not overwhelming to people to our existing neighbors or people in the surrounding 622 00:49:44,22 --> 00:49:50,61 area outside the district. We have open space parking 623 00:49:50,62 --> 00:49:55,45 requirements set backs and landscape offers as I mentioned before all this is 624 00:49:55,46 --> 00:49:57,50 available in this presentation and the manual. 625 00:50:02,47 --> 00:50:06,19 The development manual This was the final one of the final products the biggest 626 00:50:06,20 --> 00:50:11,27 product of the committee is it was the biggest task to accomplish throughout the 627 00:50:11,28 --> 00:50:16,74 process and the several several meetings that we had to get to this point again the 628 00:50:16,75 --> 00:50:17,33 manual is 629 00:50:17,37 --> 00:50:24,02 a result of the committee's work. In the committee every time to talk about how 630 00:50:24,03 --> 00:50:27,83 we're going to improve the manual make it more flexible for developers so that 631 00:50:28,33 --> 00:50:34,25 again you could support support mixed use mixed use is about giving people options 632 00:50:34,99 --> 00:50:40,10 and through flexibility with this manual with the ordinance we hope to accomplish 633 00:50:40,11 --> 00:50:46,55 that. The manual is designed to work in conjunction with zoning with the zoning 634 00:50:46,56 --> 00:50:50,64 ordinances proposed for the mixed use district they often reference each other back 635 00:50:50,65 --> 00:50:56,43 and forth but again it's there to support it with recommendations requirements 636 00:50:56,44 --> 00:51:00,12 guidelines for the zoning ordinance and the district. 637 00:51:05,68 --> 00:51:10,06 The purpose of the manual is intended to be used by staff board members developers 638 00:51:10,11 --> 00:51:13,04 property owners realtors everyone we did 639 00:51:13,04 --> 00:51:19,76 a lot of work to make sure that this. This document could. Serve everyone that 640 00:51:19,77 --> 00:51:23,84 write it so everyone can be educated by it and so they understood at the end of it 641 00:51:24,03 --> 00:51:29,98 what makes us would be and what could be built there. It also features planning 642 00:51:29,99 --> 00:51:35,85 design standards which is. About what the site would require for site detail site 643 00:51:35,86 --> 00:51:40,18 planning efforts engineering ornaments things to consider as 644 00:51:40,19 --> 00:51:43,21 a developer begins the planning phases for 645 00:51:43,22 --> 00:51:50,04 a project. And this 646 00:51:50,05 --> 00:51:53,40 document is one hundred pages so I don't expect everyone to crack it open and read 647 00:51:53,41 --> 00:51:57,98 it right away but there are important chapters that we feel that should be 648 00:51:57,99 --> 00:52:03,59 highlighted the first being chapter three which does an introduction to mixed use 649 00:52:03,60 --> 00:52:08,40 development what it is very similar to what Jim Sikes was discussing in his portion 650 00:52:08,41 --> 00:52:14,48 of the presentation chapter four explains the undertaking in an excuse and field as 651 00:52:14,49 --> 00:52:15,28 in How would 652 00:52:15,29 --> 00:52:21,69 a developer propose. An application how they submit an application through our 653 00:52:21,70 --> 00:52:23,61 departments to the political boards for 654 00:52:23,62 --> 00:52:29,12 a review process. And again then we have Chapter five goes and design standards for 655 00:52:29,13 --> 00:52:34,44 site design planning elements architectural requirements. And we have the 656 00:52:34,45 --> 00:52:38,74 consideration in chapter six for the next use development in the two fifty area 657 00:52:38,75 --> 00:52:44,96 that gets specific to group two fifty. Appendix B. 658 00:52:45,00 --> 00:52:47,87 Gives us examples of mixed use development similar to some of the pictures that you 659 00:52:47,88 --> 00:52:49,37 saw earlier but it does give 660 00:52:49,38 --> 00:52:55,42 a breakdown and explanation of those developments as as you read through them again 661 00:52:55,49 --> 00:52:57,62 a resource for developers so that they have 662 00:52:57,96 --> 00:53:01,98 a good idea of what the committee was in visioning Appendix D. 663 00:53:01,99 --> 00:53:08,20 Gives us application forms and checklists and appendix is the mix use district 664 00:53:08,21 --> 00:53:11,89 zoning ordinance which will be attached in its final product currently the manual 665 00:53:11,90 --> 00:53:16,06 does not have it in there the the zoning ordinance is its own document that would 666 00:53:16,07 --> 00:53:19,51 be in the appendix section at the end of this project. 667 00:53:23,54 --> 00:53:28,71 Apologize in advance for the smallest font size on this one but permitted uses. 668 00:53:30,08 --> 00:53:34,22 Within the stews district are capturing the zoning ordinance that we wrote that was 669 00:53:34,23 --> 00:53:39,11 wrote up we have obviously many single family multifamily residential uses 670 00:53:39,62 --> 00:53:45,26 commercial office commercial space office space services and accessories to those. 671 00:53:48,51 --> 00:53:55,35 Retail commercial civic uses recreational uses horizontal mixed use which is 672 00:53:55,36 --> 00:54:02,10 more of your lower and lower level single two storey development that tends to span 673 00:54:02,11 --> 00:54:05,14 out side to side more but they are used as 674 00:54:05,15 --> 00:54:10,05 a compliment each other vertical mixed use gives us that first floor commercial and 675 00:54:10,06 --> 00:54:16,88 second third floor residential So building up. Other uses would include 676 00:54:16,92 --> 00:54:23,63 art galleries studios related uses such as those far markets. And if 677 00:54:23,64 --> 00:54:28,06 something is not included in this initial permitted use section we have specially 678 00:54:28,07 --> 00:54:33,20 permitted uses as well all of those are subject to the board of jurisdiction to 679 00:54:33,21 --> 00:54:39,87 review to make sure that they are acceptable uses. Other portions of the 680 00:54:39,88 --> 00:54:45,51 zoning ordinance includes how change of use occurs so if 681 00:54:45,52 --> 00:54:49,25 a business tends to relocate and someone wants to come in occupy the space again 682 00:54:49,26 --> 00:54:49,43 there is 683 00:54:49,44 --> 00:54:56,14 a process for that. Parking connectivity connectivity being for anyone whether it 684 00:54:56,15 --> 00:55:01,62 be in your car to get through the site connectivity for walking biking all types of 685 00:55:01,63 --> 00:55:07,53 mobility public open spaces lighting landscaping signage setbacks 686 00:55:08,41 --> 00:55:12,29 architecture hours of operation all those including your basic zoning ordinance. 687 00:55:15,30 --> 00:55:19,36 Now this I really don't expect you to read way too small but these are strange 688 00:55:19,38 --> 00:55:25,96 shots of the application forms that. We're put together for developers within this 689 00:55:25,97 --> 00:55:32,13 we include the van called the ten principles of mixed use development 690 00:55:32,89 --> 00:55:34,13 those are guiding principles that 691 00:55:34,14 --> 00:55:38,84 a developer is responsible for answering in their application while the board while 692 00:55:38,85 --> 00:55:44,63 any board jurisdiction reviews it so it doesn't fit does have the right uses 693 00:55:45,66 --> 00:55:50,47 Does it meet the intent of what the district and what the committee and with the 694 00:55:50,48 --> 00:55:55,58 manual have set out to do. Two more strange shouts one 695 00:55:55,59 --> 00:55:57,36 a lot is for site plan requirement which is 696 00:55:57,37 --> 00:56:01,24 a basic checklist for engineers to go through all their design site plans to make 697 00:56:01,25 --> 00:56:04,99 sure complies with the district requirements as well as architecture on the right 698 00:56:05,36 --> 00:56:09,00 as we know architecture as we saw in many of those screenshots samples before 699 00:56:09,01 --> 00:56:09,62 architecture is 700 00:56:09,63 --> 00:56:13,45 a very critical component to make stews to make sure that we just don't have 701 00:56:13,46 --> 00:56:17,84 a flat wall dropped on the ground we have stuff backs approach many different 702 00:56:17,85 --> 00:56:24,69 building service materials colors lighting different accents on the buildings all 703 00:56:24,70 --> 00:56:28,66 those things have to be considered and accounted for during the application process 704 00:56:28,66 --> 00:56:35,59 . So outside of 705 00:56:36,05 --> 00:56:41,56 the committee's work part of this project also requires for any reasoning we did 706 00:56:41,57 --> 00:56:46,66 a petition for support from the landowners we had 707 00:56:46,67 --> 00:56:51,19 a petition available starting two years ago when we had 708 00:56:51,20 --> 00:56:53,85 a. Neighbor we had 709 00:56:53,86 --> 00:56:59,57 a property owner meeting right here in town hall that petition has been available 710 00:56:59,58 --> 00:57:06,24 since then we recently the Earlier this year. Once we need it we realize that some 711 00:57:06,25 --> 00:57:11,14 people were still unaware of the project we went door to door our staff went door 712 00:57:11,15 --> 00:57:15,89 to door left flyers I have one store explaining what the project was how to get 713 00:57:15,90 --> 00:57:19,85 more information on it and it was very successful that's the reason why we're at 714 00:57:20,13 --> 00:57:24,51 nearly an eighty percent. Success rate with our petition. 715 00:57:27,61 --> 00:57:32,19 Thirty four of the properties have signed of the fifty four and more importantly 716 00:57:32,95 --> 00:57:36,07 eighty percent of all the toll acreage is accounted for through the petition 717 00:57:36,08 --> 00:57:36,72 process. 718 00:57:44,60 --> 00:57:50,45 So where do we stand now this through this project it's come back we've presented 719 00:57:50,46 --> 00:57:56,36 this to the board we've handed off the documents that the committee has generated 720 00:57:56,95 --> 00:57:57,59 and as 721 00:57:57,60 --> 00:58:04,03 a legal description noted for this meeting the town more will be reviewing the 722 00:58:04,04 --> 00:58:07,34 consideration for amending the official zoning Orenstein creating an excuse 723 00:58:07,35 --> 00:58:12,57 district to amend the official zoning map and to accept the mixed use development 724 00:58:12,58 --> 00:58:19,29 manual. And thing next steps will be covered by 725 00:58:19,30 --> 00:58:19,60 Mark. 726 00:58:26,27 --> 00:58:28,91 Thank you SEC So obviously we're having 727 00:58:28,92 --> 00:58:33,69 a public hearing tonight we're open here from committee members or residents those 728 00:58:33,70 --> 00:58:38,50 living in the district around the district so as we move forward obviously this is 729 00:58:38,51 --> 00:58:43,15 a big secret impact so we already are working with the M.R. B. 730 00:58:43,16 --> 00:58:48,01 Group to prepare they've already submitted a long form forward working to develop 731 00:58:48,06 --> 00:58:52,55 a generic environmental impact statement so we have done traffic studies in the 732 00:58:52,56 --> 00:58:53,88 past we have 733 00:58:53,89 --> 00:58:58,60 a two fifty quarter study we'll look to update those traffic studies we look at 734 00:58:58,76 --> 00:59:03,65 sewer capacity in the area storm water is handled under New York State D.C. 735 00:59:03,66 --> 00:59:09,43 And in fees to regulations but we'll look at what other impacts it will have to the 736 00:59:09,44 --> 00:59:11,94 area so we'll have to go through it you know 737 00:59:11,95 --> 00:59:17,38 a scoping session get the public's input one of those opportunities tonight and we 738 00:59:17,42 --> 00:59:18,05 did originally have 739 00:59:18,06 --> 00:59:24,72 a public information meeting. Obviously the board take your comments this evening 740 00:59:25,04 --> 00:59:30,47 we'll continue to take comments through emails letters whatever other avenue that 741 00:59:30,48 --> 00:59:34,31 you want to submit to the board and I believe the board. I would expect the board 742 00:59:34,32 --> 00:59:37,72 would leave the hearing open this evening for further comments to be submitted from 743 00:59:37,73 --> 00:59:44,51 that so. With that. We've kind of 744 00:59:44,76 --> 00:59:48,55 wrapped the presentation we have this evening I don't know initially if the board 745 00:59:48,56 --> 00:59:55,07 has questions. And we've done some informal discussions there were actually work 746 00:59:55,08 --> 00:59:59,09 session discussions with the board previously this is not the first time the board 747 00:59:59,10 --> 01:00:05,72 is hearing of it. But I say that. We've worked through the work sessions with the 748 01:00:05,73 --> 01:00:11,51 board shared what the committee came up with and again this was staffs hopefully 749 01:00:12,25 --> 01:00:18,15 presentation of what the committee's work was but this is the committee's work in 750 01:00:18,34 --> 01:00:23,99 hopefully we shared it with you appropriately this evening. OK thank you very much 751 01:00:24,18 --> 01:00:30,84 Mr Valentine so the next steps as. It indicated the board is set an opportunity to 752 01:00:30,85 --> 01:00:36,60 have some discussions about this plan at our work sessions and so 753 01:00:36,61 --> 01:00:42,60 a purpose of the public hearing tonight is to hear from any and all of you whether 754 01:00:42,82 --> 01:00:49,24 you have support of or or you don't have support of concerns questions issues 755 01:00:49,79 --> 01:00:56,19 anything along those lines and so I'm going to open it up for discussion at this 756 01:00:56,20 --> 01:01:01,45 time our travel and Town Clerk if you signed in so before everybody rushes of the 757 01:01:01,46 --> 01:01:06,43 sign of table if you signed in we will take you first if you did not sign and then 758 01:01:06,44 --> 01:01:11,88 we will get to you in the order that we that you raise your hands everyone will 759 01:01:11,89 --> 01:01:18,88 have an opportunity to speak at least once and then if once we've exhausted that if 760 01:01:18,92 --> 01:01:20,50 others would like to speak for 761 01:01:20,51 --> 01:01:25,40 a second or third time I will have an opportunity to do that so I'm going to ask 762 01:01:25,41 --> 01:01:30,33 our clerk to please read the first person that signed in and then from there we 763 01:01:30,34 --> 01:01:36,05 will go on to those that have an interest in speaking OK I have just one person 764 01:01:36,06 --> 01:01:42,16 signed up Julian That's Mark. Mark how are you. 765 01:01:43,27 --> 01:01:47,17 Thank you to realize that my handing it to you then was making me first to speak. 766 01:01:48,24 --> 01:01:50,85 First I want to say I do definitely applaud the concept of 767 01:01:50,86 --> 01:01:51,94 a mixed use I think that's 768 01:01:51,95 --> 01:01:57,85 a great way to go it's something I fully fully support I do though have some 769 01:01:57,86 --> 01:02:02,93 concerns as I'm standing here certainly my concern first concern is about the 770 01:02:02,97 --> 01:02:08,01 location I'm in this and evidently will lead to further development pressure is 771 01:02:08,05 --> 01:02:12,65 even your your consultant alluded to on the adjacent areas and of course the east 772 01:02:12,66 --> 01:02:14,25 side of Penfield does have 773 01:02:14,26 --> 01:02:19,12 a certain character that I'm afraid will the decline of that character will be 774 01:02:19,13 --> 01:02:25,50 hastened by this this activity and. Obviously this activity will also result in 775 01:02:25,51 --> 01:02:32,06 some currently. A culturally current agricultural land being used one thing I would 776 01:02:32,07 --> 01:02:37,70 like to suggest since the I'm afraid that the train may have already left the 777 01:02:37,71 --> 01:02:42,72 station on this project is that perhaps it be considered to implement this in 778 01:02:42,76 --> 01:02:48,83 phases as you had the project now I think is around three hundred sixty acres and 779 01:02:48,84 --> 01:02:54,20 as I look at that it may take decades for that to completely fill out and the goals 780 01:02:54,21 --> 01:02:58,70 of the mixed use area really will not be realized in the short term or even the 781 01:02:58,71 --> 01:03:05,18 first decade or so you cannot imagine somebody walking from the. A mixed use 782 01:03:05,19 --> 01:03:11,37 activity north of. Two eighty six down to an area down by the 783 01:03:11,38 --> 01:03:12,24 Y.M.C.A. 784 01:03:12,25 --> 01:03:16,84 Anytime soon and it's quite likely that what will happen is you'll have spots here 785 01:03:16,85 --> 01:03:21,65 and there that emerge as the land becomes open for development so rather I would 786 01:03:21,69 --> 01:03:24,28 propose that the board consider 787 01:03:24,48 --> 01:03:29,29 a phased area as I looked at the map it seems like the lower A and B. 788 01:03:29,30 --> 01:03:32,71 Sections south of two eighty six would be perhaps 789 01:03:32,72 --> 01:03:36,63 a phase one type of thing and then as that area fills up in maybe 790 01:03:36,64 --> 01:03:43,46 a decade from now or whatever depending upon economic and other activities then the 791 01:03:43,50 --> 01:03:48,79 remaining areas could perhaps be opened up and the other thing I wanted to make the 792 01:03:48,80 --> 01:03:53,04 comment I wanted to make a rather specific one. But as someone who lives 793 01:03:53,05 --> 01:03:59,06 a country block away from this activity I am concerned about the lighting and so on 794 01:03:59,28 --> 01:04:03,72 and I notice in the document here that the lighting will be. 795 01:04:07,28 --> 01:04:11,54 OK so as not to cause glare and so on and so comply with the mixed use development 796 01:04:11,55 --> 01:04:17,08 manual which Zack and so on to refer to Unfortunately neither I nor Google was 797 01:04:17,09 --> 01:04:20,75 successful in locating the mixed use development manual on your website does 798 01:04:20,76 --> 01:04:25,67 afternoon but that may be reflection on Google myself I'm not sure but any case I 799 01:04:25,68 --> 01:04:30,96 would like to ask that as you consider lighting especially where you're so close to 800 01:04:30,97 --> 01:04:36,72 a rural areas that the lighting be as dark sky stringent compliant as possible 801 01:04:37,04 --> 01:04:43,98 thank you thank you Mark. OK who would like to 802 01:04:43,99 --> 01:04:49,65 address the board on this matter. So staffed at such 803 01:04:49,66 --> 01:04:56,61 a great job so. First Kevin Gallagher second OK So 804 01:04:56,83 --> 01:05:02,98 please come up. I know you guys are good but I think he had every point 805 01:05:03,74 --> 01:05:07,01 names under seal and so I was on the mixed use Committee says want to get 806 01:05:07,02 --> 01:05:11,78 a little more of my perspective of what I went through and how how we really saw 807 01:05:11,79 --> 01:05:16,44 this process I think one of the great things that we really got out of this was 808 01:05:16,45 --> 01:05:21,15 that we got a real understanding of what really takes to develop something as 809 01:05:21,16 --> 01:05:26,19 a committee we I think we're pretty focused on our areas in our neighborhoods and 810 01:05:26,20 --> 01:05:29,92 really saying this is what we want to see this is what we don't want to see 811 01:05:30,12 --> 01:05:31,00 realizing that this is 812 01:05:31,01 --> 01:05:35,26 a process that's going to take ten fifteen years but we have to start now because 813 01:05:35,27 --> 01:05:39,03 if you don't start now then you know those blocks are restart put in place as land 814 01:05:39,04 --> 01:05:42,34 gets developed around there it was great is that it really was 815 01:05:42,35 --> 01:05:47,41 a resident centered you know project I remember several times being told at the 816 01:05:47,42 --> 01:05:51,13 meetings you know this is your project you know the town is not going to dictate 817 01:05:51,14 --> 01:05:55,61 what happens here and it really came across that way and I think the residents that 818 01:05:55,62 --> 01:06:00,48 run this committee really really took that to heart because every concern we had 819 01:06:00,49 --> 01:06:04,35 was really addressed for one example we actually got far enough through the process 820 01:06:04,36 --> 01:06:06,92 where. There was a developer that brought in 821 01:06:07,12 --> 01:06:12,24 a actual proposal and the board actually got to see or actually the resident 822 01:06:12,25 --> 01:06:15,84 committee got to see it and we got to hear about it and then we turned around and 823 01:06:16,11 --> 01:06:19,13 we really got to reflect on that saying you know this isn't quite what we want to 824 01:06:19,14 --> 01:06:23,42 see but how do we relate this document so then the developers realize this is what 825 01:06:23,43 --> 01:06:25,07 we want to see and it was really 826 01:06:25,11 --> 01:06:29,89 a lot of the tool that documents say these are the actual specifics that maybe 827 01:06:29,90 --> 01:06:33,57 a developer didn't quite see our vision and we really wanted to outline the in that 828 01:06:33,58 --> 01:06:34,63 manual and I think it really made 829 01:06:34,64 --> 01:06:38,18 a big difference that this manual when you go through the criterion there's pages 830 01:06:38,19 --> 01:06:41,65 of criteria saying you know this is how many stories this is if it's this close to 831 01:06:41,66 --> 01:06:45,55 a row this is how far back it has to be and it really got pretty detailed when you 832 01:06:45,56 --> 01:06:49,56 look at it and it helped us shape how we're going to scribe that to 833 01:06:49,60 --> 01:06:53,32 a developer or anyone looking at the land saying what do we want to do here and you 834 01:06:53,33 --> 01:06:56,41 know I felt really comfortable leaving that saying that this was 835 01:06:56,42 --> 01:07:01,34 a document that the group really decided upon and you know as residents of our 836 01:07:01,35 --> 01:07:04,81 community this is what we want to see this is what we didn't want to see and it was 837 01:07:04,82 --> 01:07:09,45 really I felt good about it and you know that by just staying up here and say that 838 01:07:09,46 --> 01:07:14,37 that was something that I think everyone in the committee really after of you know 839 01:07:14,38 --> 01:07:18,07 I think this was two years three years this committee has been going to it's been 840 01:07:18,08 --> 01:07:21,29 a long process and initially we started in this and I think 841 01:07:21,30 --> 01:07:25,03 a lot of us didn't really understand what it takes to develop zoning allow us to 842 01:07:25,04 --> 01:07:28,18 understand the zoning didn't understand the terminologies and it took 843 01:07:28,19 --> 01:07:32,63 a couple months and then with Jim's you know actual consulting coming in and 844 01:07:32,64 --> 01:07:36,06 explaining what happens when you say this or when you refer to something as this it 845 01:07:36,07 --> 01:07:38,70 really helped us understand that and I think that was 846 01:07:38,71 --> 01:07:44,41 a really good process and see if any other notes that I want to say. Not really I 847 01:07:44,42 --> 01:07:46,81 mean I just I want to say that that was really 848 01:07:47,01 --> 01:07:51,06 a resident driven project and I feel really comfortable if anyone ever has 849 01:07:51,07 --> 01:07:55,32 questions feel free look me up I can give you my contact information if you bring 850 01:07:55,33 --> 01:07:57,66 questions I can feel free to answer anything kind of 851 01:07:57,67 --> 01:08:01,86 a sometimes in layman's terms even when you hear his presentations I don't really 852 01:08:01,87 --> 01:08:05,73 understand what uses mean or those kind of things but I'd be happy translating for 853 01:08:05,74 --> 01:08:11,37 anybody thank you and I will draw your attention that certainly if you go to 854 01:08:11,72 --> 01:08:17,68 Penfield dot org You can wind your way through that Mark if you grab that wink 855 01:08:18,19 --> 01:08:21,44 right there to the mountain mix use district you'll hit 856 01:08:21,78 --> 01:08:27,24 a home run when you click on that So Mark would make that to Louise your if you 857 01:08:27,25 --> 01:08:27,73 want to go in 858 01:08:27,74 --> 01:08:40,68 a little bit more detail so Mr Gallagher. Kevin 859 01:08:40,69 --> 01:08:43,82 Gallagher nine hundred seventy three Dublin Road and I wish there was 860 01:08:43,83 --> 01:08:49,67 a big map that I could point to and so the only ones are available or there I had 861 01:08:49,68 --> 01:08:55,43 some prepared statements but I'm going to start with those but I have some comments 862 01:08:55,44 --> 01:09:01,92 based on the presentation here. First of all I believe the mixed use 863 01:09:01,93 --> 01:09:07,66 manual should be in place before any considerations for the zones be be 864 01:09:08,58 --> 01:09:15,41 voted on that we're not even sure exactly what the the rules will be because 865 01:09:15,42 --> 01:09:20,25 they're not in place yet mean the mixed use or not so yes the manual makes use 866 01:09:20,26 --> 01:09:26,22 ordinance OK yes we have the manual but it it has to look into the mix use or not 867 01:09:26,23 --> 01:09:31,55 it's there would that would codify the manual rort the ordinance. 868 01:09:35,01 --> 01:09:37,43 That will be helpful but it may not be big enough. 869 01:09:44,01 --> 01:09:50,10 Because the information provided we found out that this wasn't driven by 870 01:09:50,73 --> 01:09:56,39 property owners in the area this was driven by the town asking property donors 871 01:09:56,40 --> 01:10:03,16 within the area do you want to participate in this mixed use plan so I took the 872 01:10:03,17 --> 01:10:10,10 time to look at the the. Final tax records for 873 01:10:10,24 --> 01:10:15,38 two thousand and fifteen to look at who own property and resided within the area 874 01:10:15,71 --> 01:10:18,13 and who didn't and it may just be 875 01:10:18,14 --> 01:10:23,31 a coincidence but the number thirty four was brought up and mentioned thirty four 876 01:10:23,78 --> 01:10:29,60 property owners were in agreement to this area and is it turns out thirty four of 877 01:10:29,61 --> 01:10:34,91 the properties are own. By people who are not residents so that concerns me. 878 01:10:39,96 --> 01:10:44,40 Well I have I haven't read the entire manual I've scanned it there is potential for 879 01:10:44,41 --> 01:10:49,59 a complex compact Hamlet setting that would be beneficial to residents within and 880 01:10:49,60 --> 01:10:54,07 around the area there are some problems though the possibility of light and dust 881 01:10:54,08 --> 01:10:59,89 rule is not all bad but it does open the door to some non-compatible activities I 882 01:10:59,90 --> 01:11:04,21 believe there needs to be some restrictions especially related to health and safety 883 01:11:04,47 --> 01:11:11,14 such as chemical use and Noyce the plan still seems to be road centered every 884 01:11:11,15 --> 01:11:16,62 example that they've shown looked like an intersection now we have an intersection 885 01:11:16,63 --> 01:11:21,73 there is Route two fifty and two eighty six but the idea of pedestrian friendly 886 01:11:22,16 --> 01:11:29,08 isn't Southern around high traffic high speed roads. There don't seem 887 01:11:29,09 --> 01:11:35,70 to be any examples of good. Good mixed used areas within our 888 01:11:35,71 --> 01:11:42,38 region the idea of the college town is an urban 889 01:11:42,39 --> 01:11:44,95 example rather than something that would fit 890 01:11:44,99 --> 01:11:51,35 a residential area. I can envision or I can envision and accept 891 01:11:51,48 --> 01:11:56,28 a well planned community setting as setting based on pedestrian traffic where you 892 01:11:56,29 --> 01:12:02,99 can live work walk and relax it could include places for gardens green spaces for 893 01:12:03,00 --> 01:12:09,22 private and public use there are examples of. Templates for 894 01:12:09,23 --> 01:12:15,40 consideration and this may sound strange at first but an aircraft carrier which has 895 01:12:15,41 --> 01:12:16,69 a specific purpose 896 01:12:16,85 --> 01:12:22,31 a workplace there are living spaces there are support active these such as food 897 01:12:22,60 --> 01:12:29,40 health care recreation except. Another example could be an island. Islands 898 01:12:29,44 --> 01:12:35,14 normally have an end organic evolution of their living and working spaces. A few 899 01:12:35,15 --> 01:12:40,04 people they are living there they need things they have community support food 900 01:12:40,10 --> 01:12:46,16 shelter health care maybe tourism but mostly they are self-sufficient there are 901 01:12:46,17 --> 01:12:51,01 examples of nice Hamlets in Europe and Asia where there are complimentary and 902 01:12:51,02 --> 01:12:55,74 mutually supporting buildings and shared spaces which make close knit communities 903 01:12:56,72 --> 01:13:01,93 as Spain colonized the Americas they had rules for towns and city plans and 904 01:13:01,94 --> 01:13:08,83 construction however I would prefer plants such as by Frederick Law Olmsted which 905 01:13:08,84 --> 01:13:15,83 are vital living communities built within natural setting. The problem here 906 01:13:16,17 --> 01:13:17,78 is I believe there needs to be 907 01:13:17,79 --> 01:13:24,47 a master plan in place before any building is constructed the idea of multiple 908 01:13:24,48 --> 01:13:28,56 developers working separately on different properties does not lead to an 909 01:13:28,57 --> 01:13:33,97 acceptable outcome I believe the result result would be a hodgepodge and 910 01:13:33,98 --> 01:13:40,23 a blight. And the other thing is the home ownership. There was discussion about 911 01:13:40,27 --> 01:13:47,10 providing. Housing that was fordable to less 912 01:13:47,26 --> 01:13:53,67 fluent individuals but the idea of renting and apartments seems 913 01:13:53,69 --> 01:13:58,67 contrary to that goal we want people to be able to live here afford to live here 914 01:13:58,67 --> 01:14:04,08 but we also want them to have ownership in our property in our community. 915 01:14:06,45 --> 01:14:11,31 Now I'm still concerned in protecting open space specifically around Dublin's and 916 01:14:11,31 --> 01:14:18,24 Suites corner roads so that includes the view sheds. In the projected area. 917 01:14:20,91 --> 01:14:27,80 This is the protected area open space the view sheds are mentioned in the contract 918 01:14:28,29 --> 01:14:33,58 the view sheds are mentioned in the comprehensive plan and the open space plan 919 01:14:34,06 --> 01:14:40,90 however the view from those open spaces includes most of the southern area 920 01:14:41,94 --> 01:14:48,72 which includes fields here. Some small forest area here and hedge lines 921 01:14:48,88 --> 01:14:55,81 over that the hilltop here so all this proposed development will be within the 922 01:14:55,82 --> 01:15:02,59 view. We want chosen area and what they've said is four storey 923 01:15:02,60 --> 01:15:09,53 buildings which does not seem we just built in this area. In fact it seems 924 01:15:09,54 --> 01:15:16,27 to be that is the area with the highest. Number of stories for their development 925 01:15:17,10 --> 01:15:23,12 now this seems in the exact opposite of what the 926 01:15:23,91 --> 01:15:30,57 comprehensive plan and the open space plan mentioned prior to this development 927 01:15:30,58 --> 01:15:37,41 study so it seems as though this development idea is in complete 928 01:15:37,42 --> 01:15:43,99 contrast to our Open Space Vision. Now as I mentioned before. 929 01:15:45,55 --> 01:15:45,90 They have 930 01:15:45,91 --> 01:15:52,81 a majority of the land orders which have signed on to this proposal but. 931 01:15:54,14 --> 01:15:59,04 As it turns out seventy five percent of the property is owned by people who are out 932 01:15:59,05 --> 01:16:05,88 of town. The point is is this area going to be considered in favor of the interests 933 01:16:05,89 --> 01:16:11,54 of non residents or is it going to be considered for the best interests of 934 01:16:11,55 --> 01:16:17,98 residents. Now the other thing is the properties already have set zoning the 935 01:16:17,99 --> 01:16:22,78 properties owners know that when they they bought the property and there should be 936 01:16:22,90 --> 01:16:29,81 no it's expectation that the property owners especially from out of town can expect 937 01:16:29,81 --> 01:16:33,81 . Increase in value because it changes over to 938 01:16:34,08 --> 01:16:40,94 a commercial use. The other issue I 939 01:16:40,95 --> 01:16:46,52 mentioned before is the the intersection of Route two fifty into eighty six it cuts 940 01:16:47,02 --> 01:16:52,57 the entire area twice so it's four areas how do you have 941 01:16:52,58 --> 01:16:55,82 a pedestrian friendly area when you have to cross such 942 01:16:55,83 --> 01:17:01,93 a busy road and I see no provisions no ideas about connecting those areas whether 943 01:17:01,94 --> 01:17:06,76 it's slowing the traffic down putting in pedestrian bit bridges. 944 01:17:08,68 --> 01:17:14,57 Boulevards anything like that and all those things because those are state routes 945 01:17:15,01 --> 01:17:21,02 they would have to approve those things so their intention may be fast transit 946 01:17:21,23 --> 01:17:26,89 travel transportation which may be in conflict of our pedestrian friendly ideas. 947 01:17:29,11 --> 01:17:35,94 So I was going to say that I was tentatively. Disapproval 948 01:17:36,44 --> 01:17:42,91 with ideas about how it could be improved to make where I would approve it but. 949 01:17:43,77 --> 01:17:50,19 This idea seems so off base so contrary to the character of 950 01:17:50,20 --> 01:17:53,54 Penfield that I am absolutely opposed to it. 951 01:17:57,02 --> 01:18:03,76 It it appears as though some people have looked at the proposal and not seen the 952 01:18:03,77 --> 01:18:09,46 character of the town of Penfield and maybe I see things differently I see the 953 01:18:09,47 --> 01:18:15,57 views from Dublin hill I can see the tree lines I've I've been able to 954 01:18:16,19 --> 01:18:23,18 tell what can be seen from each will cation but four stories would block the 955 01:18:23,19 --> 01:18:30,04 view for. Right now the view is eight miles away to the city 956 01:18:30,05 --> 01:18:36,58 Rochester and we would lose that view. One other consideration I have friends that 957 01:18:36,59 --> 01:18:43,25 are on California they we've lived any fairly dense suburban community but their 958 01:18:43,26 --> 01:18:49,49 houses are in the valleys and when you walk to the hilltops you can't see any. 959 01:18:50,65 --> 01:18:55,31 Other houses all you see are tree lined hill tops and they have 960 01:18:55,35 --> 01:19:00,10 a vibrant community there they have their mixed use centers but they don't 961 01:19:00,11 --> 01:19:05,79 sacrifice the natural beauty the the positive qualities of the community for that 962 01:19:06,32 --> 01:19:12,93 so I don't believe that the project proposed under the current conditions within 963 01:19:12,94 --> 01:19:19,67 their zones fits our community so I am opposed to it OK thank you thank you. 964 01:19:26,60 --> 01:19:32,95 OK others that would like to speak. Yes. 965 01:19:45,21 --> 01:19:46,91 Good evening my name is Kevin Fitzpatrick I have 966 01:19:46,92 --> 01:19:50,56 a pen field resident but I also work at the Eastside community Y.M.C.A. 967 01:19:50,56 --> 01:19:55,89 . Two fifty I'm also part of the it was part of the steering committee and I think 968 01:19:55,90 --> 01:20:00,41 some of the issues that the gentleman I was Mark just brought up were addressed in 969 01:20:00,42 --> 01:20:04,89 that committee so if you look if you really look into the manual and look deep it 970 01:20:04,90 --> 01:20:09,70 talks about walkability it talks about getting traffic off of to fifty off of 971 01:20:09,71 --> 01:20:14,44 a clan and how do you really create that synergy in those communities so when you 972 01:20:14,45 --> 01:20:18,22 talk about how much recreational space they need how much open space I think it's 973 01:20:18,23 --> 01:20:24,12 all in their use have to delve really deep so I think in the process. I think it 974 01:20:24,13 --> 01:20:28,11 was three years actually that we went through this so all different things came up 975 01:20:28,15 --> 01:20:32,69 as we talked about the heights what should go together how do we compliment it we 976 01:20:32,70 --> 01:20:34,26 also talked about is can it be 977 01:20:34,27 --> 01:20:40,97 a hodgepodge but again when the team from the staff and Jim came and said if we 978 01:20:40,98 --> 01:20:46,31 put this things together everything should line up so when you look at what exact 979 01:20:46,32 --> 01:20:50,87 talked about all of the different requirements they do line up together it is going 980 01:20:50,88 --> 01:20:51,02 to be 981 01:20:51,03 --> 01:20:54,61 a challenge to put that together so the planning board and the zoning board will 982 01:20:54,62 --> 01:20:56,60 have to look at that but there is 983 01:20:56,61 --> 01:21:01,38 a road map to put that together in that in that plan that that took three years to 984 01:21:01,39 --> 01:21:05,63 sort of put together I think the other thing that I would say is you look back at 985 01:21:05,73 --> 01:21:11,87 where Penn field was ten years ago and where it is now experience with the Y.M.C.A. 986 01:21:11,88 --> 01:21:14,41 There really wasn't a plan so this sort of gives 987 01:21:14,42 --> 01:21:17,35 a direction as to how does this area which is 988 01:21:17,36 --> 01:21:21,86 a growth area really be developed in there and I think when you put that three 989 01:21:21,87 --> 01:21:23,79 areas together a B. And C. 990 01:21:23,99 --> 01:21:24,52 It creates 991 01:21:24,53 --> 01:21:29,93 a real cohesive area into fifty we've worked on the stoplight to slow the traffic 992 01:21:29,94 --> 01:21:35,38 down how to get traffic in foot traffic one place to another I think the town is 993 01:21:35,39 --> 01:21:35,65 making 994 01:21:35,66 --> 01:21:39,99 a lot of progress as they put that together and again from experience when we talk 995 01:21:40,00 --> 01:21:45,46 about travel when we've done some projects at the Y. . The Planning Board A.J. 996 01:21:45,47 --> 01:21:48,73 And his group has made sure that there is connected building they have asked for an 997 01:21:48,74 --> 01:21:54,16 easement so things can be put together in the future might not be next year or the 998 01:21:54,17 --> 01:21:58,68 year after but ten years from now there are plans to put all of that together so as 999 01:21:58,69 --> 01:21:59,84 a committee member and as 1000 01:21:59,85 --> 01:22:03,50 a resident Penfield I would I would support this plan thank you thank you. 1001 01:22:07,33 --> 01:22:07,71 Yes sir. 1002 01:22:19,81 --> 01:22:24,80 I live at thirty three thirty Atlantic Avenue and my property the north end of my 1003 01:22:24,81 --> 01:22:28,71 property will abut up to one of the section B. 1004 01:22:28,83 --> 01:22:34,95 Which is the. Northeast corner of the intersection of Atlantic in two fifty 1005 01:22:35,74 --> 01:22:42,33 My concern is one thing I do kind of like the concept of the idea and where I am it 1006 01:22:42,34 --> 01:22:47,64 looks like the level of the building is going to be three stories high I do have 1007 01:22:47,65 --> 01:22:52,24 tree lines in my backyard so I should not be able to see the buildings but I'm 1008 01:22:52,25 --> 01:22:56,82 concerned the rear side of the buildings if you've got offices in 1009 01:22:57,49 --> 01:23:02,82 a semi commercial area there's going to be trucks in there deliveries and so forth 1010 01:23:03,44 --> 01:23:07,33 you know is this going to be night time delivery is going to be noise and is 1011 01:23:07,34 --> 01:23:11,69 a lighting going to be you know low level lighting where it's going to be something 1012 01:23:11,70 --> 01:23:18,60 like Wakeman's. I don't know forty forty foot tall tower type things that 1013 01:23:18,61 --> 01:23:24,93 would you know impact my live ability there another concern I have also is what 1014 01:23:24,94 --> 01:23:30,53 would it do to my property value since I would not have walkability to this this 1015 01:23:30,54 --> 01:23:34,77 area you know I'd have to you know there's no sidewalks on Atlantic Avenue. 1016 01:23:35,83 --> 01:23:40,40 Theoretically have to walk down Atlantic Avenue and then walk north onto fifty to 1017 01:23:40,41 --> 01:23:45,86 get to this proposed area. So you know what would it do the property values for 1018 01:23:45,87 --> 01:23:52,46 adjacent properties that aren't you know accessible to these areas and 1019 01:23:52,75 --> 01:23:59,67 those are some concerns thank you thank you for coming in. Others. 1020 01:24:04,05 --> 01:24:10,22 Yes if you please come forward and we just have someone sign up to speak OK So 1021 01:24:10,70 --> 01:24:13,39 after this gentleman then you will be next. 1022 01:24:17,89 --> 01:24:24,48 Getting me. From my sixty four point zero. Right now so I 1023 01:24:24,49 --> 01:24:25,98 support the project I think there's 1024 01:24:25,99 --> 01:24:31,18 a lot of works got into it and it's moving your attraction and. You've got to think 1025 01:24:31,19 --> 01:24:35,07 forward a little bit because you know change is a commie and it lays down 1026 01:24:35,08 --> 01:24:41,36 a reasonable foot foundation for the future and oh my neighbor Dan Heath I don't 1027 01:24:41,37 --> 01:24:45,49 think he's here tonight for some health reasons but I know he supports it as well 1028 01:24:45,66 --> 01:24:52,47 at the Penn field service center. So it's kind of prevent him from be here but just 1029 01:24:52,48 --> 01:24:58,16 looking up from. This program's generally geared towards the vacant land rule 1030 01:24:58,17 --> 01:25:00,98 properties if you're 1031 01:25:01,20 --> 01:25:05,71 a business in the area am or you're resident in the area but I guess maybe 1032 01:25:05,72 --> 01:25:06,22 a little more from 1033 01:25:06,23 --> 01:25:10,82 a business standpoint. You know at the dentist office there if I want to enhance 1034 01:25:10,83 --> 01:25:15,79 the property which I want to do you know if I need to add 1035 01:25:15,80 --> 01:25:20,49 a small addition for Apatow Henri I want to you know improve the entrance I don't 1036 01:25:20,50 --> 01:25:25,14 think the quoting directly relates to these type of changes for an existing 1037 01:25:25,15 --> 01:25:30,58 structure I would say so maybe some means of just recognizing that fact and that 1038 01:25:30,59 --> 01:25:34,83 there will be some variance to the code for existing properties that are 1039 01:25:34,84 --> 01:25:39,78 a relatively small property you never pay less than half an acre point four acres 1040 01:25:39,79 --> 01:25:44,81 some around in there. And then. You know I want to improve it blend in with the 1041 01:25:44,91 --> 01:25:50,34 with the area statically and physically make the building more attractive as one of 1042 01:25:50,35 --> 01:25:55,43 the community but it may not fit perfectly into the standards that are available 1043 01:25:55,44 --> 01:25:57,50 for the same thing for Dan you know if he wants 1044 01:25:57,51 --> 01:26:00,89 a beta his grudge or he wants to expand 1045 01:26:00,90 --> 01:26:04,79 a service center Well is it really going to fit into the form of what we're doing 1046 01:26:04,80 --> 01:26:09,13 for larger projects we're talking about multiple acres surprise some some form of 1047 01:26:09,14 --> 01:26:14,61 accommodation and acknowledgement of these variations on the theme. That's all 1048 01:26:15,49 --> 01:26:21,99 right thank you could you spell your last name please W G U T H Thank you thank. 1049 01:26:27,47 --> 01:26:32,82 Welcome thank you good evening my name is Kerry Ivers I reside in fifteen pensioner 1050 01:26:32,83 --> 01:26:38,52 circle can feel York I actually live in an area of town that is thirty years ago 1051 01:26:38,53 --> 01:26:42,42 was becoming a new and mixed use version of 1052 01:26:42,43 --> 01:26:48,73 a suburban development will pond with apartments and townhouses and the commercial 1053 01:26:48,74 --> 01:26:54,76 quarter very close by very compact development and I love where I am and I think 1054 01:26:54,77 --> 01:26:59,46 that the mixed use assuming that's being proposed is phenomenal and it shows 1055 01:27:00,42 --> 01:27:07,18 a progressive look to the future it's fiscally. Responsible in terms of 1056 01:27:07,46 --> 01:27:12,00 concentrating investment in infrastructure and the maintenance in long term mean 1057 01:27:12,01 --> 01:27:17,80 and so it goes with that I think it helps. Control or at least minimize the impact 1058 01:27:17,81 --> 01:27:23,73 of sprawl and I think more importantly it's addressing and market need now in the 1059 01:27:23,74 --> 01:27:30,60 future. For all types of living arrangements and styles and people want to 1060 01:27:30,65 --> 01:27:35,68 be in places that are walkable and you can do and be in 1061 01:27:35,69 --> 01:27:37,15 a lot of different places an issue in 1062 01:27:37,16 --> 01:27:41,73 a very compact setting and I think we see that in our villages that are very 1063 01:27:41,74 --> 01:27:46,43 successful. And we see that in redevelopment and other towns that are trying to 1064 01:27:46,65 --> 01:27:52,24 create this retroactively. You know and it's harder to do after the fact so I think 1065 01:27:52,25 --> 01:27:57,13 the fact that we are looking forward and trying to create this environment now and 1066 01:27:57,14 --> 01:28:03,84 then the future is going to really continue to set Penfield ahead as an example 1067 01:28:03,85 --> 01:28:10,52 of great development and for thinking so I support the proposal and hope the board 1068 01:28:10,80 --> 01:28:17,03 does the same Thank you thank you. Other first time speakers. 1069 01:28:21,39 --> 01:28:28,38 Yes sir please. Thank you my name is David Dixon and I live in Fairport 1070 01:28:28,53 --> 01:28:34,95 my father and mother in law were Howard and Marty Frank. And I have two quick 1071 01:28:35,17 --> 01:28:39,26 questions primarily one has to do with taxes. 1072 01:28:41,83 --> 01:28:48,34 Making these changes are you then automatically creating. An increased tax burden 1073 01:28:48,35 --> 01:28:55,35 for all the property owners within these proposed zones. So the 1074 01:28:55,39 --> 01:29:01,23 tax issue which relates to an assessment issue you know is something that's very 1075 01:29:01,61 --> 01:29:06,85 individual to each parcel if you think about it vacant land versus single family 1076 01:29:06,86 --> 01:29:09,12 versus a business so if there's 1077 01:29:09,13 --> 01:29:14,62 a single family so what I would what I would say so I'm going to answer is this is 1078 01:29:14,63 --> 01:29:21,19 that I I'm not an assessor and nor do I try to play one during the day either. 1079 01:29:22,44 --> 01:29:29,38 I would encourage and I've had this conversation with our assessment. With our 1080 01:29:29,39 --> 01:29:31,89 assessor in the assessment Department you know if there is 1081 01:29:31,90 --> 01:29:37,89 a specific piece of property. She will be and her staff will be happy get to 1082 01:29:37,90 --> 01:29:44,43 specifically speak to your property because again just the dynamics of vacant land 1083 01:29:44,44 --> 01:29:49,98 versus structures commercial residential You know I just want to make sure that I'm 1084 01:29:49,99 --> 01:29:54,45 not saying that this is or isn't going to happen and find out that I'm running 1085 01:29:54,46 --> 01:30:01,01 counter to state law. That's the specific question is with regard to all the 1086 01:30:01,02 --> 01:30:07,21 properties within the zones. Is it the intent of the board to have 1087 01:30:07,22 --> 01:30:13,99 a reassessment of each and every property regardless of its current use we take 1088 01:30:14,00 --> 01:30:19,05 a look at all of our properties on an annual basis and ways that I understand what 1089 01:30:19,06 --> 01:30:23,50 you're saying it's not an answer well then you're not going to be happy with my 1090 01:30:23,51 --> 01:30:27,05 answer tonight because what I'm going to say is if you would like to speak to 1091 01:30:27,21 --> 01:30:32,17 a particular piece of property. What I meant encourage you to do is to have 1092 01:30:32,18 --> 01:30:37,34 a conversation with our assessor in our sensors office OK then the second part of 1093 01:30:37,35 --> 01:30:43,73 that sure is has the assessor has there been. Any tax consideration at all in all 1094 01:30:43,74 --> 01:30:50,71 of the ten years that this project has been underway I think it's safe to say that 1095 01:30:50,92 --> 01:30:57,91 whatever it is currently zoned and what it has been assessed as as I said the 1096 01:30:57,92 --> 01:31:03,42 assessor's office will review properties on an annual basis and sections of town on 1097 01:31:03,43 --> 01:31:09,44 an annual basis. Has that been changed up or down or properties there operate out 1098 01:31:09,64 --> 01:31:13,97 like I can't answer that question tonight so you you you don't know whether it's 1099 01:31:13,98 --> 01:31:19,62 even been discussed Well I know that the assessor's office looks at all the 1100 01:31:19,63 --> 01:31:25,22 properties but I can't sit here and tell you your property was their property was 1101 01:31:25,23 --> 01:31:27,26 not I can tell you that it's reviewed on 1102 01:31:27,27 --> 01:31:33,89 a annual basis I'm not talking about my property I'm talking about. Everybody's 1103 01:31:33,90 --> 01:31:38,57 property and again again what I want to say is that the assessor reviews all of the 1104 01:31:38,58 --> 01:31:44,80 properties on any annual basis is the assessor aware of abs absolutely OK 1105 01:31:45,36 --> 01:31:51,62 Second question is. The examples that the consultant has provided 1106 01:31:52,70 --> 01:31:57,23 in a lot of those examples there's been a what I say 1107 01:31:57,30 --> 01:32:01,75 a community commitment I.E. 1108 01:32:01,82 --> 01:32:08,08 Libraries town halls schools whatever I don't see any town 1109 01:32:08,51 --> 01:32:14,64 commitment in any of this there's no library proposal here there's no school 1110 01:32:14,65 --> 01:32:21,19 proposed There's nothing that's here. And typically in multi 1111 01:32:21,20 --> 01:32:27,53 use special zone requirements there is a community 1112 01:32:27,92 --> 01:32:27,92 a 1113 01:32:27,93 --> 01:32:35,32 a governmental commitment to saying we are going to be part of the development 1114 01:32:35,89 --> 01:32:40,37 I don't see any of that here at all you're looking for somebody else to do the work 1115 01:32:40,38 --> 01:32:47,17 for you you're not committed to anything here it is it is at this 1116 01:32:47,18 --> 01:32:53,34 point the town does not have any commitments to move any facility in there at this 1117 01:32:53,35 --> 01:32:57,61 time that is correct OK Thank you that's what I wanted to know thanks David thank 1118 01:32:57,62 --> 01:32:59,85 you yes sir Bob. 1119 01:33:08,96 --> 01:33:12,91 My name is Bob wing I live at thirty three zero nine Allana Kevin two and Howard 1120 01:33:12,92 --> 01:33:17,92 barber my in-laws as well. In answer to your comment about calling the assessor's 1121 01:33:17,93 --> 01:33:22,01 office I called them today I talked to the assessor and she claims she has no 1122 01:33:22,02 --> 01:33:26,88 knowledge about any of these any of this that's going on and that she couldn't give 1123 01:33:26,89 --> 01:33:32,31 me any assistance when I asked her about specific properties aioe. We know about 1124 01:33:32,77 --> 01:33:39,00 you about your specific property so yes OK so I'll take exception to that only 1125 01:33:39,01 --> 01:33:45,71 because I know that she is aware of the study group because it's been going on she 1126 01:33:45,72 --> 01:33:50,18 resides in this building if if if you'd like to give me 1127 01:33:50,19 --> 01:33:56,32 a call you and I and the assessor will sit down all right that fact I will do them 1128 01:33:56,33 --> 01:34:01,48 yes that's the that's the best I can offer that's of us I can offer but I'll also 1129 01:34:01,49 --> 01:34:05,90 say that that anyone whether it's myself or anyone in the audience that owns 1130 01:34:05,91 --> 01:34:10,96 property in the town if you have any questions about the assessment or your 1131 01:34:10,97 --> 01:34:15,72 property or or what have you that office is there and available for that 1132 01:34:15,73 --> 01:34:18,59 information all right so if you would give me 1133 01:34:18,60 --> 01:34:24,21 a call. Up an appointment for the three of us to sit down one just one other 1134 01:34:24,22 --> 01:34:28,40 general absolutely it's interesting that the specialist shows up and he says that 1135 01:34:28,41 --> 01:34:32,05 this is the first time he's ever been here when there wasn't snow and then he shows 1136 01:34:32,06 --> 01:34:37,90 a bunch of examples of. Projects south of the Mason Dixon line where they have 1137 01:34:37,91 --> 01:34:43,64 a significantly different climate than we have here and in talks about walkability 1138 01:34:43,65 --> 01:34:48,63 and in Rochester come and compares it to they have their it seems you know 1139 01:34:48,64 --> 01:34:53,61 a little bit you know apples and oranges got it right thanks Bob. 1140 01:34:56,77 --> 01:35:03,34 Other. Other questions other comments first time speakers. 1141 01:35:05,08 --> 01:35:10,31 Second time speakers. Second time speakers Mr Gallagher. 1142 01:35:20,62 --> 01:35:21,67 I'd just like to add 1143 01:35:21,68 --> 01:35:26,78 a little bit of information to the properties at the corner of suites corner and 1144 01:35:26,79 --> 01:35:33,50 two fifty. They are right here. They were previously 1145 01:35:33,51 --> 01:35:40,05 considered for open space properties and they are still listed in two thousand and 1146 01:35:40,06 --> 01:35:43,14 six open space plan and there is 1147 01:35:43,15 --> 01:35:49,12 a stipulation that they should be protected with regards to the view scapes and 1148 01:35:49,32 --> 01:35:54,88 they went from being considered for open space to now being considered for. 1149 01:35:55,100 --> 01:36:02,75 Mixed development. And the other thing is that I see a lot of people here in 1150 01:36:02,92 --> 01:36:07,40 a lot of people speaking and I want to make sure that if you have concerns you need 1151 01:36:07,41 --> 01:36:12,61 to bring them up whether it's for or against and I'm not the one to speak for you 1152 01:36:12,62 --> 01:36:18,19 but maybe someone needs to speak for you so if there are residents concerned you 1153 01:36:18,20 --> 01:36:25,13 should probably get together thank you thank you. First 1154 01:36:25,14 --> 01:36:31,35 or second time speakers. OK 1155 01:36:32,16 --> 01:36:33,80 I'll talk about yes sir please. 1156 01:36:39,48 --> 01:36:44,16 But. My name is time glam eleven Mallory lane. 1157 01:36:46,72 --> 01:36:53,31 And there I served on the committee there are some concerns I have. 1158 01:36:54,65 --> 01:37:01,20 And yet conceptually I think the idea is wonderful. The concerns I have are twofold 1159 01:37:01,35 --> 01:37:07,64 One is when we talk about taking care of projects like this whose 1160 01:37:07,65 --> 01:37:12,93 responsibility is it going to be the developers or the town. 1161 01:37:14,25 --> 01:37:16,11 Because I agree it's 1162 01:37:16,12 --> 01:37:20,34 a matter of fact one of the things I asked for was renderings when they were 1163 01:37:20,35 --> 01:37:26,08 brought back if they could not have time trees and. Cheap stuff isn't applied here 1164 01:37:26,57 --> 01:37:31,03 so it was going to take care of the walk area who's going to take care of the cost 1165 01:37:31,04 --> 01:37:37,93 of that. Too in the way of concern is traffic. We can 1166 01:37:37,94 --> 01:37:44,65 have all of the wonderful walking with in the mix use district but these people 1167 01:37:44,66 --> 01:37:50,25 have to go to work and how are they going to get there most of them by automobile. 1168 01:37:52,87 --> 01:37:59,11 The last thing is when. Will developers be allowed 1169 01:37:59,52 --> 01:38:05,12 to submit plans to the town board or is this a period of 1170 01:38:05,13 --> 01:38:10,57 a moratorium until you decide on what you're going to do with mixed use and that's 1171 01:38:10,61 --> 01:38:10,96 by way of 1172 01:38:10,97 --> 01:38:14,36 a question as you notice anything else have absolute because I thought the idea of 1173 01:38:14,37 --> 01:38:20,75 all of this was to increase tax load to the town of Penfield. And I guess 1174 01:38:21,54 --> 01:38:27,34 I would just suggest that we not sit on this forever because developers are only 1175 01:38:27,35 --> 01:38:32,96 interested in developing for a certain period of time and Other than that it was 1176 01:38:32,97 --> 01:38:37,38 a pleasure it really was you've got great people working for the town conceptually 1177 01:38:37,39 --> 01:38:42,70 I think it can work but boy we've got to watch for the tails thank you thank you 1178 01:38:42,71 --> 01:38:45,14 Tom. Yes ma'am. 1179 01:38:51,47 --> 01:38:58,07 My name is Heidi shear I reside in one four eight zero Penn field center and I just 1180 01:38:58,59 --> 01:39:04,59 I'm excited about the idea of what's going to be happening. And I I don't know if I 1181 01:39:04,60 --> 01:39:07,97 agree with some of the examples that were shown I don't know if they're really 1182 01:39:07,98 --> 01:39:11,34 a play ball but I do think that I share 1183 01:39:11,35 --> 01:39:17,87 a lot of the concerns that some of the residents also. Voiced before the noise. 1184 01:39:19,16 --> 01:39:25,23 Certainly the traffic the lighting I'm very concerned that there would be more than 1185 01:39:25,24 --> 01:39:26,69 one developer at 1186 01:39:26,70 --> 01:39:33,22 a time trying to deal with everything and I really like Mark would has his idea of 1187 01:39:33,59 --> 01:39:37,11 doing it in phases so that there's not a piece here 1188 01:39:37,12 --> 01:39:43,55 a piece there. It would be wonderful for Penfield but I really would like to see 1189 01:39:43,56 --> 01:39:45,90 something done well as opposed to 1190 01:39:45,91 --> 01:39:49,65 a lot of bits and pieces but I wish you luck it's 1191 01:39:49,66 --> 01:39:55,70 a big job and I hope that the right decisions are made for the best of everybody 1192 01:39:55,93 --> 01:40:02,04 big concern that there weren't as many residents involved that actually own homes I 1193 01:40:02,05 --> 01:40:08,90 really worry about. The authenticity of where I live we have over five acres 1194 01:40:09,26 --> 01:40:15,10 and I like that about Penfield I don't want to be you know one quarter acre lots 1195 01:40:15,11 --> 01:40:21,10 that's what I chose and that's what many people here have chosen so. Thank you 1196 01:40:21,65 --> 01:40:24,59 thank you I thank you. Sir. 1197 01:40:33,47 --> 01:40:37,64 Good evening. My name is A.J. 1198 01:40:37,65 --> 01:40:41,72 Had ski I live it fourteen so over five strife and just 1199 01:40:41,73 --> 01:40:45,20 a couple of comments. I think 1200 01:40:45,21 --> 01:40:52,05 a great job done by the staff. And this I also served as 1201 01:40:52,19 --> 01:40:58,77 a liaison to the. To the mix use committee from the planning board so I set in and 1202 01:40:59,30 --> 01:41:05,38 several of the meetings and saw the the work that was being done one of the things 1203 01:41:05,40 --> 01:41:11,14 as I look around the room. I turned fifty this year. 1204 01:41:12,23 --> 01:41:19,08 And I think I significantly bring down the median age in the room and one of the 1205 01:41:19,09 --> 01:41:20,30 things that I think we as 1206 01:41:20,31 --> 01:41:26,77 a town need to consider is. Do we want 1207 01:41:27,13 --> 01:41:32,58 young people. To stay here or do we want them to move away. 1208 01:41:34,46 --> 01:41:40,100 And. All of the trends that I read about in see are that 1209 01:41:41,51 --> 01:41:47,42 younger people are moving more toward cities more toward communities like this 1210 01:41:48,26 --> 01:41:54,01 and. I know that we can't please all people all the time we can never do that. 1211 01:41:57,39 --> 01:42:02,14 But I think that. This type of project is 1212 01:42:02,15 --> 01:42:08,60 a very forward thinking project is it perfect probably not. 1213 01:42:11,73 --> 01:42:18,64 But. Whoever I certainly can't lay claim to. Conceiving 1214 01:42:18,78 --> 01:42:24,81 the idea of it for Penfield but whoever did I think was pretty forward thinking 1215 01:42:25,60 --> 01:42:30,47 and. Frankly 1216 01:42:30,48 --> 01:42:35,79 a combination of young people and old people as people get older my father in law 1217 01:42:35,80 --> 01:42:37,99 lives over an arbor ridge and it's 1218 01:42:38,00 --> 01:42:44,43 a very tight knit community and I know that. I think that 1219 01:42:44,47 --> 01:42:48,07 a place in that community like a little cafe or 1220 01:42:48,08 --> 01:42:52,19 a little convenience store would probably be great and as 1221 01:42:52,20 --> 01:42:58,64 a town would probably never would have allowed it. In Weiner. So I think we have to 1222 01:42:58,68 --> 01:43:04,94 just start thinking. About things in new and different ways and think outside the 1223 01:43:04,95 --> 01:43:05,21 box 1224 01:43:05,22 --> 01:43:14,58 a little bit. Those are my comments thank you thanks making. Other 1225 01:43:14,59 --> 01:43:20,46 comments. So folks are rather thinking I'll talk 1226 01:43:20,47 --> 01:43:25,33 a little bit about next steps and then we'll give it one more opportunity for folks 1227 01:43:25,34 --> 01:43:31,51 to speak before we close the hearing so the next steps from this meeting tonight is 1228 01:43:31,52 --> 01:43:35,64 that the board will typically on 1229 01:43:35,65 --> 01:43:38,83 a hearing like this that involves 1230 01:43:38,84 --> 01:43:44,65 a pretty significant to update or change will tend to hold the hearing open for 1231 01:43:44,66 --> 01:43:50,44 a couple of weeks to give folks an opportunity that may not have been able to be 1232 01:43:50,45 --> 01:43:54,41 here to cement some comments and those that are here that if they have some 1233 01:43:54,42 --> 01:43:59,92 thoughts after they leave here have the opportunity to feed information and so we 1234 01:43:59,96 --> 01:44:01,42 tend to leave that open for 1235 01:44:01,43 --> 01:44:04,67 a couple of weeks and then the board will then next have 1236 01:44:04,71 --> 01:44:11,45 a conversation about this said an upcoming. Work session and the board 1237 01:44:11,62 --> 01:44:11,99 twice 1238 01:44:12,00 --> 01:44:17,27 a month has work sessions it's on the second on the fourth Wednesday we hold it in 1239 01:44:17,28 --> 01:44:21,73 the back of the room it's open to the public and we publish our genders every 1240 01:44:21,74 --> 01:44:27,64 Friday early afternoon so that you will see that I think we also have an ability 1241 01:44:28,13 --> 01:44:28,33 with 1242 01:44:28,34 --> 01:44:34,46 a number of people here that we probably have an e-mail distribution list so we can 1243 01:44:34,50 --> 01:44:35,98 probably by 1244 01:44:35,99 --> 01:44:40,98 a combination of either getting some e-mails out updating our website having it on 1245 01:44:40,99 --> 01:44:45,00 the agenda but my guess is again will leave this open for 1246 01:44:45,01 --> 01:44:50,70 a couple of weeks and then next discuss it by the very earliest the end of the 1247 01:44:50,71 --> 01:44:56,94 month or early in June so those will be the next. And I would just stay stay tuned 1248 01:44:57,07 --> 01:45:03,35 for that. I'll give one more opportunity for questions 1249 01:45:03,59 --> 01:45:07,99 comments raising some concerns anything along those items. 1250 01:45:11,07 --> 01:45:11,86 Yes sir Bill. 1251 01:45:22,07 --> 01:45:26,75 I am Bill Wickham own two parcels actually one right next to the Y.M.C.A. 1252 01:45:26,76 --> 01:45:31,23 Work in farms and then one on suites corners road that's being considered to be 1253 01:45:31,24 --> 01:45:32,99 included as one of the B. 1254 01:45:33,36 --> 01:45:38,03 Zones and I just talk about two things very quickly and one is change and one is 1255 01:45:38,04 --> 01:45:44,86 taxes and those things are always going to change always happens in Texas always 1256 01:45:44,87 --> 01:45:48,99 have been and the one thing that I know there's been talk about open space I 1257 01:45:49,00 --> 01:45:55,89 actually own some of the preserve space so that that's always AG But 1258 01:45:56,21 --> 01:46:00,41 the thing about open space is it costs money there was 1259 01:46:00,42 --> 01:46:05,21 a whole lot of money spent to preserve those development rights before I owned it I 1260 01:46:05,89 --> 01:46:11,00 didn't collect that but it actually provided an opportunity for my wife and I to 1261 01:46:11,01 --> 01:46:16,87 own some real estate and keep it in agriculture you know wouldn't it. If it had not 1262 01:46:16,88 --> 01:46:20,84 been if the development rights hadn't been purchased that wouldn't work for us but 1263 01:46:20,85 --> 01:46:26,38 now from the flip side of it it also does very little in the big scheme of things 1264 01:46:26,39 --> 01:46:32,72 to contribute to the tax base of the of the town and I think that's it and that's 1265 01:46:32,73 --> 01:46:39,21 an encouraging thing about the mixed use concept that it is tax positive in terms 1266 01:46:39,22 --> 01:46:44,15 of you know I think Zakhar Mark showed showed the slide earlier you know 1267 01:46:44,16 --> 01:46:46,28 residential development is it is 1268 01:46:46,29 --> 01:46:52,31 a draw on you know what it takes more service then it then it provides in tax base 1269 01:46:52,32 --> 01:46:55,07 whereas whereas this is the opposite so I think that's 1270 01:46:55,08 --> 01:47:00,83 a good thing change changed always it happens all the time it can be uncomfortable 1271 01:47:00,84 --> 01:47:06,14 I know that I have neighbors that wanted there to be Vineyard on that property 1272 01:47:06,15 --> 01:47:11,11 forever but the reality is you know even farming even agriculture changes in. You 1273 01:47:11,12 --> 01:47:15,21 know the grapes that were growing there were not economically viable but that 1274 01:47:15,22 --> 01:47:21,67 doesn't mean that you know property has value and there is going to be change. It's 1275 01:47:21,68 --> 01:47:28,11 going to happen continue to happen I like the idea that the town was out in front 1276 01:47:28,12 --> 01:47:32,75 of this actually. Looking for 1277 01:47:32,76 --> 01:47:37,68 a grand plant and it would be great if the whole three hundred eighty five acres 1278 01:47:37,69 --> 01:47:41,88 was owned by one property owner then it would make sense in terms of phases and 1279 01:47:41,89 --> 01:47:47,59 whatnot but the reality is you know Deb and I don't have any plans for for exit in 1280 01:47:47,60 --> 01:47:52,23 the business we're in right now and so I don't think it's realistic to expect that 1281 01:47:52,24 --> 01:47:52,66 there's going to be 1282 01:47:52,67 --> 01:47:57,21 a developer that can command and unify all those property owners on a on 1283 01:47:57,22 --> 01:48:01,95 a single vision and then make it work like like Walt Disney did in central Florida 1284 01:48:01,96 --> 01:48:06,42 so I think the reality of the the situation is that it will have to be at least 1285 01:48:06,43 --> 01:48:06,79 somewhat of 1286 01:48:06,80 --> 01:48:10,57 a piecemeal development I think there are some opportunities were some things he 1287 01:48:10,58 --> 01:48:15,67 had gone in and I think it will catch and and as as there are successes they will 1288 01:48:15,68 --> 01:48:19,42 continue to grow and and hopefully unify thank you thank you both. 1289 01:48:22,88 --> 01:48:25,99 Last opportunity for. Comments. 1290 01:48:29,73 --> 01:48:30,38 OK in 1291 01:48:30,39 --> 01:48:36,06 a scene. To clear this public hearing closed again will keep it open for two week 1292 01:48:36,07 --> 01:48:42,96 period. And welcome e-mails go to the website feed information into 1293 01:48:43,04 --> 01:48:48,98 staff and then again to keep and keep an eye on our website for work session 1294 01:48:48,99 --> 01:48:55,75 meetings will also get notifications out as well I would I would also like to 1295 01:48:55,99 --> 01:48:56,40 just take 1296 01:48:56,41 --> 01:49:01,83 a minute and recognize the committee members that did participate thank you for 1297 01:49:01,84 --> 01:49:05,95 your time your out effort and your energy on this and I'd be remiss if I didn't 1298 01:49:05,96 --> 01:49:12,52 recognize our communications person in in the town Phyllis Seeley 1299 01:49:12,80 --> 01:49:18,49 who helped our staff who are great technical folks but maybe not always the best 1300 01:49:18,50 --> 01:49:24,68 writers to make it understandable so for everyone to talk to no one understand what 1301 01:49:24,69 --> 01:49:27,70 that is so thank you for that thank you have 1302 01:49:27,71 --> 01:49:29,07 a great evening I'm going to take just 1303 01:49:29,08 --> 01:49:33,38 a thirty second to reste thirty second recess so we can allow folks to get out 1304 01:49:33,39 --> 01:49:37,48 encourage it please stay around and chat if you like staff will be available but if 1305 01:49:37,49 --> 01:49:41,23 we could do in the rotunda and then we're going to continue on because we still 1306 01:49:41,24 --> 01:49:41,44 have 1307 01:49:41,45 --> 01:49:54,80 a lengthy agenda. Welcome 1308 01:49:54,99 --> 01:49:55,91 back we took 1309 01:49:55,92 --> 01:50:02,46 a short break from our public hearing to allow the auditorium to clear out will 1310 01:50:02,47 --> 01:50:09,41 resume with our agenda and the next item up is communications and announcements and 1311 01:50:09,42 --> 01:50:14,82 I'll start with the councilwoman. Tonight please thank you I have two good 1312 01:50:14,83 --> 01:50:19,39 communications tonight two announcements first the town of Penfield spring drop off 1313 01:50:19,56 --> 01:50:23,94 were on Friday May thirteenth from seven thirty A.M. To five P.M. 1314 01:50:24,22 --> 01:50:27,23 And Saturday May fourteenth from nine A.M. To three P.M. 1315 01:50:27,27 --> 01:50:31,78 At the Public Works complex objects in the road this service is for Penfield 1316 01:50:31,79 --> 01:50:36,16 residents only in proof of residency will be checked at the gate again this is the 1317 01:50:36,17 --> 01:50:38,71 town of Penfield spring drop off for 1318 01:50:38,72 --> 01:50:43,13 a detailed list of materials that will and will not be accepted you can visit the 1319 01:50:43,14 --> 01:50:48,12 town's website at Penfield that org residents wishing to dispose of items that are 1320 01:50:48,13 --> 01:50:52,91 not excepted at the spring drop are encouraged to visit Monroe counties year round 1321 01:50:52,96 --> 01:50:58,27 Echo Park facility located at ten drive near the airport at the park is 1322 01:50:58,28 --> 01:51:02,28 a joint effort between Munroe County and waste management that provides County 1323 01:51:02,29 --> 01:51:02,87 residents with 1324 01:51:02,88 --> 01:51:07,68 a one stop drop off for more information hours and other details about Echo Park 1325 01:51:07,72 --> 01:51:09,77 you may log onto W.W.W. 1326 01:51:09,78 --> 01:51:16,00 Debt Munroe County dot gov backslash Echo Park. My second announcement is 1327 01:51:16,29 --> 01:51:21,69 inviting all to join our Penfield community and Saturday May fourteenth same day as 1328 01:51:21,70 --> 01:51:25,03 the drop off the second day of the drop up to help your neighbors do some spring 1329 01:51:25,04 --> 01:51:30,82 cleaning for the second annual Terri roughest memorial good neighbor day ten feel 1330 01:51:30,83 --> 01:51:34,61 good neighbor volunteers will be helping seniors that trains and those who are 1331 01:51:34,62 --> 01:51:38,96 disabled to do like yard work or spring cleanup volunteers will meet at the 1332 01:51:38,97 --> 01:51:43,32 roughest farm unsought road at eight am for refreshments and to receive their 1333 01:51:43,33 --> 01:51:47,97 assignments. If you are someone who could use the extra hand or do you know someone 1334 01:51:47,98 --> 01:51:48,25 who needs 1335 01:51:48,26 --> 01:51:53,30 a little extra help for spring clean up to sign up or be helped to decide to help 1336 01:51:53,31 --> 01:51:58,49 or be helped please call Sabrina Renner at three four zero eight six five one or 1337 01:51:58,50 --> 01:52:00,55 you may email Sabrina as 1338 01:52:00,62 --> 01:52:06,52 a runner at Anfield dot org That's all I have this evening thank you very much I 1339 01:52:06,53 --> 01:52:08,23 have one announcement I think I have 1340 01:52:08,24 --> 01:52:14,50 a couple but I apologize I left my sheet on my my desk 1341 01:52:15,26 --> 01:52:22,16 but the one that is I think most important at this point is that I'm happy to 1342 01:52:22,17 --> 01:52:26,82 report and the town board was made aware of this earlier this week but I'm happy to 1343 01:52:26,83 --> 01:52:33,47 report that the town of Penfield was really rated by Moody's Investors. 1344 01:52:34,67 --> 01:52:36,70 We had a and 1345 01:52:36,74 --> 01:52:42,37 a double A two rating we have been moved up to an 1346 01:52:42,41 --> 01:52:43,38 a double 1347 01:52:43,42 --> 01:52:50,09 a one rating. There are only eight percent of the cities towns 1348 01:52:50,10 --> 01:52:56,45 villages in New York State that have that radiate and I'm happy to report that 1349 01:52:56,54 --> 01:52:56,73 through 1350 01:52:56,74 --> 01:53:02,87 a lot of hard work fire department heads our finance department our board that we 1351 01:53:02,88 --> 01:53:09,84 were able to move to that there is only one higher rating that is AAA. 1352 01:53:10,89 --> 01:53:17,59 That is. Currently held by law. Less than five percent of the towns villages and 1353 01:53:17,60 --> 01:53:21,60 cities in New York state but it certainly is 1354 01:53:21,61 --> 01:53:28,46 a goal that we will continue to look at and to benchmark for us what that means 1355 01:53:28,47 --> 01:53:33,61 for our residences is that any bonding that we currently have we have an 1356 01:53:33,62 --> 01:53:37,70 opportunity to reduce that interest rate in fact 1357 01:53:37,71 --> 01:53:43,17 a war in the process of doing that right now and we will find out next week how 1358 01:53:43,18 --> 01:53:48,28 much we will be able to save on and on an annual basis as well as the life of those 1359 01:53:48,29 --> 01:53:55,21 bonds right now the initial projection. Is about twenty thousand dollars on an 1360 01:53:55,22 --> 01:53:58,35 annual basis and more than a quarter of 1361 01:53:58,36 --> 01:54:03,25 a million over the life of the bonds and again that probably is 1362 01:54:03,26 --> 01:54:10,12 a low estimate we're looking for the final sale but again it was you know an 1363 01:54:10,13 --> 01:54:17,06 outstanding news that came from Moody's and again I want to recognize staff finance 1364 01:54:17,34 --> 01:54:24,21 and our Tom board with that Mr Moore thank you Mr Supervisor the Penfield trails 1365 01:54:24,22 --> 01:54:29,15 committee will offer the public to free guided opportunities in May to see parts of 1366 01:54:29,16 --> 01:54:33,73 penciled and the first one will be held on Saturday May seventh that Harris Whalen 1367 01:54:33,74 --> 01:54:40,20 park at nine am. Through the woods to discover exciting spring flowers also learn 1368 01:54:40,21 --> 01:54:45,22 about Park geology and history meet at the upper pavilion the next one will be 1369 01:54:45,23 --> 01:54:51,50 a canoe kayak track and Saturday May fourteenth Ellison park at nine AM enjoy 1370 01:54:51,51 --> 01:54:53,01 paddle down around a quite Creek in 1371 01:54:53,02 --> 01:54:58,85 a canoe or kayak and meet at the Ellison Park South and trance Please provide your 1372 01:54:58,86 --> 01:55:04,30 own canoe or kayak personal flotation devices must be worn in supplied by the 1373 01:55:04,31 --> 01:55:09,07 individual no one will be allowed to participate without one of the without wearing 1374 01:55:09,08 --> 01:55:13,87 a personal flotation device Well the guided tracks are free participate that 1375 01:55:14,04 --> 01:55:18,91 participants are asked to register by calling three four zero eight six five five 1376 01:55:19,38 --> 01:55:25,23 option six so they know who is attending Thank you. They have two announcements the 1377 01:55:25,24 --> 01:55:28,57 Penfield players and melodrama has returned with 1378 01:55:28,58 --> 01:55:34,05 a sneaky pete underhanded devious dealings the shows are eight P.M. 1379 01:55:34,06 --> 01:55:38,48 May six seven the thirteenth and fourteenth opera Formosa's will be held at the 1380 01:55:38,49 --> 01:55:44,23 Community Center audiences will have the opportunity to cheer throw popcorn with 1381 01:55:44,24 --> 01:55:50,59 melodrama directed by for Giamatti and written by Billy St John to order tickets 1382 01:55:50,96 --> 01:55:56,50 call the box office at three four zero eight six five six or visit Penfield 1383 01:55:56,51 --> 01:56:00,37 recreation and I'm going there May seventh with 1384 01:56:00,38 --> 01:56:05,04 a group of Rotarians two tables I hear it's really good they started last weekend 1385 01:56:05,05 --> 01:56:11,34 and this is the final couple weeks of May sixth seventh thirteenth fourteenth in 1386 01:56:11,35 --> 01:56:15,30 the other announced that I have is that my next community chip for may well be 1387 01:56:15,31 --> 01:56:20,32 Tuesday May seventeenth that high thirty to seven in new book Area at the library 1388 01:56:20,43 --> 01:56:26,18 like this stop by. Thank you so we started the meeting off with Bill Kelly coming 1389 01:56:26,19 --> 01:56:28,28 in from the Legion Post to talk 1390 01:56:28,29 --> 01:56:34,22 a little bit about Memorial Day so I will and communications in announcements with 1391 01:56:34,36 --> 01:56:39,98 just remind everyone that Memorial Day our celebration that will also include 1392 01:56:40,20 --> 01:56:45,71 a parade of roses will be held on Monday the thirty if that ten thirty here at the 1393 01:56:45,72 --> 01:56:50,06 ampitheater as part of that parade of roses We also have 1394 01:56:50,07 --> 01:56:54,14 a guest speaker that happens to be this year legislator George cheeper from the 1395 01:56:54,15 --> 01:56:56,87 fifteenth legislative district representing 1396 01:56:56,88 --> 01:57:01,35 a portion of Penn field and Webster and retired Navy looking forward to 1397 01:57:01,36 --> 01:57:08,19 a legislator. To share his thoughts around this very important day and 1398 01:57:08,23 --> 01:57:10,71 there's an essay contest and there's still 1399 01:57:10,75 --> 01:57:16,87 a little bit of time left to get the essays in from our students within Penn field 1400 01:57:17,14 --> 01:57:22,75 and I would just say that you can log on at Pen feel rec dot org to get additional 1401 01:57:22,76 --> 01:57:26,35 information. You can also contact S. 1402 01:57:26,49 --> 01:57:32,03 Runner Sabrina runner ass runner at Penfield dot org Now we hope to see you not 1403 01:57:32,04 --> 01:57:37,26 only at the ten thirty ceremony but then again as billet indicated we hope to see 1404 01:57:37,27 --> 01:57:38,27 at the one thirty 1405 01:57:39,15 --> 01:57:45,81 a ceremony that will be held at Smith cemetery on Gloria drive thank you additions 1406 01:57:45,82 --> 01:57:50,89 and deletions to the agenda scene none will move on to the minutes we have the 1407 01:57:50,90 --> 01:57:56,28 minutes of the March twenty third two thousand and sixteen before us and then 1408 01:57:56,29 --> 01:58:01,61 within the next twenty thirty seconds it's been moved and seconded any discussion. 1409 01:58:02,91 --> 01:58:03,86 Seen not asked for 1410 01:58:03,87 --> 01:58:10,17 a roll call vote call the fountain. Hi Metzler more 1411 01:58:10,66 --> 01:58:17,00 for thank you. I skipped over public participation and I don't want to do that 1412 01:58:17,40 --> 01:58:22,78 so two opportunities so one at this point and then one at the end of our agenda 1413 01:58:23,42 --> 01:58:27,85 several ways to participate if you're here in the auditorium you can join us here 1414 01:58:27,86 --> 01:58:31,92 at the podium and talk about any matter of interest that you have within the town 1415 01:58:32,27 --> 01:58:36,39 you can call in at three four zero eight seven seven one or you can log on at Pen 1416 01:58:36,40 --> 01:58:41,65 field dot org with that is there anyone interested in addressing the board on any 1417 01:58:41,66 --> 01:58:48,63 matter OK seen none. To petitions town clerk John attorney or town 1418 01:58:48,64 --> 01:58:55,31 board received any petitions since our last get together. Mr Supervisor in the 1419 01:58:55,32 --> 01:59:01,58 town clerk's office did receive the petition from the president Creek the alley 1420 01:59:01,59 --> 01:59:06,65 homeowners association there were one hundred eighty one signatures against 1421 01:59:06,66 --> 01:59:07,03 building 1422 01:59:07,04 --> 01:59:11,25 a dog kennel that's what they called it at the site of the former camp had 1423 01:59:11,31 --> 01:59:17,82 a mall which is located on Panorama Creek try. Thank you very much who made that 1424 01:59:17,83 --> 01:59:23,42 part of the record and I would ask that if we could share that with the port. 1425 01:59:25,10 --> 01:59:30,58 All right we'll move on to rez resolutions by functional first recognize councilman 1426 01:59:30,59 --> 01:59:33,06 Morse thank you to proviso I'd like to make 1427 01:59:33,07 --> 01:59:39,51 a motion to move the following resolutions it would be Resolution one one two one 1428 01:59:39,52 --> 01:59:46,05 one three one one four one one five one one six one one seven one one 1429 01:59:46,12 --> 01:59:53,12 eight one one. One two zero one two three and one two for 1430 01:59:53,34 --> 01:59:58,05 the purpose of this motion as these resolutions are pretty typical to what we see 1431 01:59:58,09 --> 02:00:03,58 periodic Lee and and or annually here at the town board just point out 1432 02:00:03,59 --> 02:00:09,24 a couple one is to allow access for snowplow. As to circle in 1433 02:00:09,25 --> 02:00:15,65 a church parking lot to go back around in hit some of the roads and one in involves 1434 02:00:15,66 --> 02:00:22,06 fire marshal allowing the fire marshal to go ahead and perform his functions for 1435 02:00:22,07 --> 02:00:25,45 securing unsafe facilities Another one is 1436 02:00:25,46 --> 02:00:28,17 a small contract seventy five hundred dollars for 1437 02:00:28,21 --> 02:00:33,91 a drainage project the other one is for some survey work is 1438 02:00:33,92 --> 02:00:37,88 a part of our engineering department another one is 1439 02:00:37,89 --> 02:00:42,82 a conditional use permit for some music at the Four Corners that Cha-Cha is wood 1440 02:00:42,83 --> 02:00:47,40 fired Bar and Grill. The other is to set a public hearing for 1441 02:00:47,41 --> 02:00:53,63 a jewelry store at the Four Corners Another one is an I tee up day here in the town 1442 02:00:53,64 --> 02:00:58,86 of Penfield and the other one is for the supervisor to sign a E.P.A. 1443 02:00:59,13 --> 02:01:03,43 Environment Protection Agency agreement for the town of Penfield Thank you great 1444 02:01:03,44 --> 02:01:10,01 thank you I will ask our clerk here for she would in fact just read the 1445 02:01:10,02 --> 02:01:15,28 specific titles of those resolutions and him before I do that you've made 1446 02:01:15,29 --> 02:01:22,18 a mistake and thank you and ask our clerk to please read those formal titles of 1447 02:01:22,19 --> 02:01:26,75 those resolutions please sixteen T one twelve authorization to attend New York 1448 02:01:26,76 --> 02:01:31,77 State Association of tax receivers and collectors two thousand and sixteen annual 1449 02:01:31,78 --> 02:01:37,32 training seminar sixteen T one thirteen authorization for supervisor to sign 1450 02:01:37,33 --> 02:01:42,65 agreement with Rochester Christian Reformed Church sixteen T one fourteen 1451 02:01:42,66 --> 02:01:48,03 authorization to assess the charges for the for the securing of an unsafe structure 1452 02:01:48,85 --> 02:01:54,96 to the two thousand and seventeen property tax bill one fifteen authorization to 1453 02:01:54,97 --> 02:01:59,08 maintain properties and assess the charges to the two thousand and seventeen 1454 02:01:59,09 --> 02:02:05,82 property tax bills are separate areas one sixteen approval of out of district 1455 02:02:05,83 --> 02:02:11,79 user status for the property located at twelve sixty seven Fairport nine mile Point 1456 02:02:11,83 --> 02:02:16,57 Road one seventeen authorization for town supervisor to sign 1457 02:02:16,58 --> 02:02:22,28 a professional service contract Amendment with Barton and Judas for Environmental 1458 02:02:22,29 --> 02:02:27,29 Services one eighteen authorization for town supervisor to sign 1459 02:02:27,30 --> 02:02:33,29 a professional service contract with Edwin Summerhayes surveying for stakeout 1460 02:02:33,30 --> 02:02:34,29 services for 1461 02:02:34,30 --> 02:02:40,69 a parking lot and access to the Four Mile Creek nature preserve one nineteen 1462 02:02:40,73 --> 02:02:41,27 granting 1463 02:02:41,28 --> 02:02:46,81 a conditional use permit to allow live music. In the outdoor dining area at twenty 1464 02:02:46,82 --> 02:02:52,08 one twenty four and twenty one twenty six five mile line road known as church as 1465 02:02:52,09 --> 02:02:57,22 wood fired Bar and Grill. Number one twenty setting a public hearing for 1466 02:02:57,26 --> 02:02:59,34 a conditional use permit to allow 1467 02:02:59,35 --> 02:03:05,16 a jewelry shop at seven hundred fifty nine Penfield road number one twenty three 1468 02:03:05,20 --> 02:03:10,29 adoption of town of Penfield acceptable use policy for I.T. 1469 02:03:10,85 --> 02:03:16,20 One twenty four authorization for some town supervisor to sign an agreement with 1470 02:03:16,21 --> 02:03:16,88 E.P.A. 1471 02:03:17,63 --> 02:03:22,72 Right thank you those eleven resolutions have been moved and seconded Alaska the 1472 02:03:22,73 --> 02:03:29,06 board any further discussion in addition to what comments Mr Moore had made I would 1473 02:03:29,07 --> 02:03:34,25 just note Mr Supervisor that these resolutions are on the website attach the agenda 1474 02:03:34,26 --> 02:03:39,40 if anyone wants to would like to review them in detail there on the website. Thank 1475 02:03:39,41 --> 02:03:46,08 you very much seen no further. Discussions or comments I would ask for one 1476 02:03:46,09 --> 02:03:52,67 vote for those eleven resolutions call the fountain guy Metzler I 1477 02:03:52,76 --> 02:03:59,15 more or I's. Number one twenty one 1478 02:03:59,52 --> 02:03:59,90 setting 1479 02:03:59,91 --> 02:04:04,81 a public hearing to consider preliminary and final site plan approval to allow 1480 02:04:04,82 --> 02:04:09,40 a forty five hundred plus or minus square foot mixed use commercial and apartment 1481 02:04:09,41 --> 02:04:15,46 building at eight hundred sixty one Penfield road and that is under one finance. 1482 02:04:16,49 --> 02:04:20,02 Second whereas an application it's been received by the Penfield town board for 1483 02:04:20,03 --> 02:04:25,64 plenary in final sight plan approval pursuant to two five zero dash one to the got 1484 02:04:25,88 --> 02:04:28,02 two of the code to allow 1485 02:04:28,03 --> 02:04:32,34 a forty five hundred square foot mixed use commercial apartment building it eight 1486 02:04:32,35 --> 02:04:37,06 hundred sixty one Penfield road in the Four Corners zoning district therefore be 1487 02:04:37,07 --> 02:04:39,55 a result that the town board of the town of Penfield you hold 1488 02:04:39,56 --> 02:04:45,20 a public hearing Penfield Town Hall on June first two thousand and sixteen at seven 1489 02:04:45,21 --> 02:04:45,72 P.M. 1490 02:04:45,96 --> 02:04:52,39 And said data considered said application thank you thank you. Discussion so you 1491 02:04:52,40 --> 02:04:58,76 know discussion roll call please call the fountain that's where I mourn for I 1492 02:04:59,58 --> 02:05:03,59 said in a public hearing to consider incentives opening for pulling Meriam find 1493 02:05:03,60 --> 02:05:06,69 a reserve division and site plan approval to allow 1494 02:05:06,70 --> 02:05:11,63 a seventy two hundred square foot retail building at twenty one forty and twenty 1495 02:05:11,64 --> 02:05:16,96 one forty six Fair Point NY mile Point Road Also line finance number one twenty two 1496 02:05:17,28 --> 02:05:21,47 moved seven whereas an application has been received by the Penfield town board 1497 02:05:21,92 --> 02:05:26,52 pursuant to the code to consider an application for incentive zoning implemented in 1498 02:05:26,53 --> 02:05:30,72 final subdivision and site plan approval for the development of 1499 02:05:30,73 --> 02:05:35,69 a seventy two hundred square foot retail building and two point three acres in the 1500 02:05:35,70 --> 02:05:41,53 business nine retail zoning at twenty one forty and twenty one forty six for port 1501 02:05:41,54 --> 02:05:45,78 nine mile Point Road Now therefore be resolved that the town board of the town of 1502 02:05:45,79 --> 02:05:46,62 Penfield still hold 1503 02:05:46,63 --> 02:05:52,25 a public hearing the Penfield town hall and June first two thousand and sixteen at 1504 02:05:52,26 --> 02:05:58,28 seven pm to consider said application THANK YOU THANK YOU discussion. 1505 02:05:59,37 --> 02:06:06,05 So you know discussion will call the police call the fountain Metzler more for 1506 02:06:06,06 --> 02:06:11,62 eyes. One twenty five Morgan East Avenue Al C. 1507 02:06:11,76 --> 02:06:18,24 A K E stabbed new mobile home park Tex So Sheri so moved whereas 1508 02:06:18,25 --> 02:06:24,25 Morgan East Ave L L C here two four commence proceedings against the assessor in 1509 02:06:24,26 --> 02:06:28,100 the board of assessment Review and other respondents for review of assessment for 1510 02:06:29,01 --> 02:06:32,94 the years two thousand and eleven twelve two thousand and twelve thirteen two 1511 02:06:32,95 --> 02:06:36,67 thousand and thirteen fourteen two thousand and fourteen fifteen two thousand and 1512 02:06:36,89 --> 02:06:41,92 fifteen sixteen for the site located at seven thirty Linden Avenue within the town 1513 02:06:41,93 --> 02:06:46,40 of Penfield whereas after negotiations between the attorney for the town in 1514 02:06:46,41 --> 02:06:47,77 Attorneys for the petitioner 1515 02:06:48,01 --> 02:06:51,68 a tentative agreement has been reached between all parties on the terms of 1516 02:06:51,69 --> 02:06:56,01 a proposed settlement subject to the approval of the town board and the approval of 1517 02:06:56,02 --> 02:07:00,61 the Supreme Court of the state of New York which terms of settlement are set forth 1518 02:07:00,62 --> 02:07:05,73 in the stipulations on file in the office of the town assessor THANK YOU THANK YOU 1519 02:07:06,62 --> 02:07:13,62 discussion so you know discussion well Caldwell please call the fountain I met more 1520 02:07:14,37 --> 02:07:19,92 for. Morgan Forest Lawn M.H.C. 1521 02:07:19,96 --> 02:07:26,89 Aka forest lot mobile home park taxers sushi rary settlement moved second whereas 1522 02:07:26,90 --> 02:07:29,31 Morgan Forest Lawn M.H.C. 1523 02:07:29,43 --> 02:07:33,83 Here two for commence proceedings against the assessor in the board of assessment 1524 02:07:33,84 --> 02:07:38,82 Review and other respondents for review of the assessment for years two thousand 1525 02:07:38,83 --> 02:07:42,60 and eleven twelve two thousand and twelve thirteen two thousand and thirteen 1526 02:07:42,61 --> 02:07:47,86 fourteen two thousand and fourteen fifteen in two thousand and fifteen sixteen for 1527 02:07:47,87 --> 02:07:53,11 the site located at four fifty two I'm sorry for fifty two Linden Avenue within the 1528 02:07:53,12 --> 02:07:57,77 town of Penfield whereas after negotiations between the attorney for the town in 1529 02:07:57,78 --> 02:07:59,27 the attorney for the particular. Or 1530 02:07:59,46 --> 02:08:03,67 a tentative agreement has been reached between all parties in terms of the proposed 1531 02:08:03,68 --> 02:08:07,99 settlement subject to the subject to the approval of the town board in the approval 1532 02:08:08,00 --> 02:08:13,59 of the Supreme Court of the state of New York thank you thank you discussion. Scene 1533 02:08:13,60 --> 02:08:20,02 or discussion please call the fountain Metzler more for eyes 1534 02:08:20,66 --> 02:08:24,64 amending the contract for the construction of sanitary sewers within the park you 1535 02:08:24,65 --> 02:08:30,18 drive white village Drive area extension fifty six through to the Consolidated 1536 02:08:30,19 --> 02:08:35,12 sanitary sewer district moved Second Time Warner has established extension number 1537 02:08:35,13 --> 02:08:39,60 fifty six to the Penn field consolidated sanitary sewer district for the purpose of 1538 02:08:39,61 --> 02:08:44,05 providing sanitary sewers to one hundred eighty five properties within the purview 1539 02:08:44,06 --> 02:08:47,59 Dr White village Dr project area and whereas after 1540 02:08:47,60 --> 02:08:51,51 a thorough evaluation of all the bids it was determined that the bid received from 1541 02:08:51,52 --> 02:08:55,83 fine line pipeline Incorporated was the low bidder and met the town's bidding 1542 02:08:55,84 --> 02:08:59,96 requirements for this project and wares on February eighteenth two thousand and 1543 02:08:59,97 --> 02:09:02,19 fifteen by resolution fifteen T. 1544 02:09:02,20 --> 02:09:04,83 Dash sixty five the town board awarded 1545 02:09:04,84 --> 02:09:08,87 a contract for construction of Santeria sewers within the park your driveway 1546 02:09:08,88 --> 02:09:10,88 village drive project area in 1547 02:09:10,89 --> 02:09:15,15 a total bit amount of one million seven hundred thousand dollars and whereas change 1548 02:09:15,16 --> 02:09:19,64 orders to the original contract amount are necessary based on field changes in 1549 02:09:19,65 --> 02:09:24,13 amount not to exceed twenty five thousand five hundred dollars whereas the change 1550 02:09:24,14 --> 02:09:28,02 orders are within the scope of the contingency for the project and will not require 1551 02:09:28,07 --> 02:09:32,42 additional money to be bonded therefore be it Resolved That the town board acted 1552 02:09:32,50 --> 02:09:37,49 acting as commissioners of the Penfield consolidated sanitary sewer district concur 1553 02:09:37,50 --> 02:09:41,64 that this expansion of the scope of the project is prudent and therefore authorize 1554 02:09:41,68 --> 02:09:43,06 the increase in contract for 1555 02:09:43,07 --> 02:09:48,03 a fine line pipeline as outlined in Change Orders Number two and number three in 1556 02:09:48,04 --> 02:09:53,82 amount not to exceed twenty five thousand five hundred dollars thank you discussion 1557 02:09:53,82 --> 02:10:00,44 . No discussion of Roll Call please call the fountain. Metzler more 1558 02:10:01,09 --> 02:10:05,53 for eyes. Authorization for supervisor to sign 1559 02:10:05,57 --> 02:10:10,24 a mandatory agreement with Munroe County renewing the two thousand and fourteen 1560 02:10:10,67 --> 02:10:15,03 community development block grant for thirty four thousand seven hundred fifty 1561 02:10:15,04 --> 02:10:21,02 dollars for the Empire Boulevard sidewalk improvement project moved second whereas 1562 02:10:21,03 --> 02:10:24,75 the Manor County development administration previously awarded a grant for 1563 02:10:24,76 --> 02:10:28,75 a maximum amount of thirty four thousand seven hundred fifty dollars for the two 1564 02:10:28,76 --> 02:10:32,98 thousand and fourteen Empire Boulevard sidewalk improvement project in the town of 1565 02:10:32,99 --> 02:10:37,28 Penfield And whereas the town accepted this grant through town board resolution 1566 02:10:37,29 --> 02:10:38,18 fifteen T. 1567 02:10:38,19 --> 02:10:43,21 Dash forty eight and January twenty first two thousand and fifteen Now therefore be 1568 02:10:43,22 --> 02:10:47,75 a result of the town of Penfield supervisor are infinitely found to be and is 1569 02:10:47,76 --> 02:10:49,46 hereby authorized to execute in 1570 02:10:49,47 --> 02:10:54,06 a mandatory agreement with Monreal County for the project and grant to continue 1571 02:10:54,07 --> 02:11:00,47 through December thirty first two thousand and sixteen thank you discussion. See no 1572 02:11:00,48 --> 02:11:07,24 further discussion roll call please call. Metzler more for eyes 1573 02:11:08,03 --> 02:11:14,92 authorisation for town board to accept of Monterey County. Grant for 1574 02:11:14,93 --> 02:11:19,19 thirty two thousand dollars for the two thousand and fifteen Empire Boulevard 1575 02:11:19,20 --> 02:11:24,94 sidewalk improvement project and execute and agreement moved second whereas the 1576 02:11:24,95 --> 02:11:25,88 town of Penfield is 1577 02:11:25,89 --> 02:11:29,98 a member of the manor County Community Development Block Grant urban consortium and 1578 02:11:29,99 --> 02:11:31,25 whereas the town has entered into 1579 02:11:31,26 --> 02:11:35,40 a cooperation agreement to participate in the Community Development Program and 1580 02:11:35,41 --> 02:11:39,65 comply with the federal laws and requirements regulating the program whereas the 1581 02:11:39,66 --> 02:11:43,46 town of Penfield after consultation with the public has identified an appropriate 1582 02:11:43,47 --> 02:11:48,09 use of potential community development funding in our town in where's the town of 1583 02:11:48,10 --> 02:11:51,99 Penfield made application to the minor county Development Administration for 1584 02:11:52,00 --> 02:11:56,22 a project that satisfy the requirements whereas the monarch County development 1585 02:11:56,23 --> 02:11:58,18 ministration has awarded a grant for 1586 02:11:58,19 --> 02:12:02,05 a maximum. Out of thirty two thousand dollars for the two thousand and fifteen 1587 02:12:02,06 --> 02:12:06,80 Empire Boulevard sidewalk improvement project in the town of Penfield And whereas 1588 02:12:06,81 --> 02:12:09,94 the town of Penfield has deemed in the best interests of the town to accept this 1589 02:12:09,95 --> 02:12:14,32 grant Now therefore be it Resolved That the town board accept this grant and 1590 02:12:14,33 --> 02:12:18,98 encourages the implementation of this project now therefore be it further resolved 1591 02:12:19,13 --> 02:12:22,85 the town Penfield supervisor is authorized to execute an agreement with Monroe 1592 02:12:22,86 --> 02:12:28,42 County for the project and the Grant thank you discussion Mr Supervisor just real 1593 02:12:28,43 --> 02:12:33,47 quickly I'd like to thank you for your efforts in submitting this proposal to go 1594 02:12:33,48 --> 02:12:39,01 forward and helping secure the thirty two thousand dollars for this project and I 1595 02:12:39,02 --> 02:12:43,02 also would like to acknowledge the efforts of our two county legislators in 1596 02:12:43,03 --> 02:12:47,88 Penfield we're very fortunate to have two of them vs just one George Ybor in 1597 02:12:47,92 --> 02:12:53,59 legislative district fifteen in Derry draw in Legislative District nine who I know 1598 02:12:53,60 --> 02:12:57,78 are very instrumental in helping secure the thirty two thousand dollars for this 1599 02:12:57,79 --> 02:13:02,88 project at the county level so I'd like to thank you both and acknowledge both both 1600 02:13:02,89 --> 02:13:09,28 your efforts thank you for their discussion. One of the reasons why we extended 1601 02:13:09,59 --> 02:13:15,91 last years which we were able to do is to take both of these pots of money one for 1602 02:13:15,92 --> 02:13:21,51 thirty two thousand and one for thirty four seven fifty to put that together for 1603 02:13:21,52 --> 02:13:26,59 a total of thirty sixty six thousand seven hundred fifty dollars This will help 1604 02:13:26,60 --> 02:13:33,23 complete the sidewalks that will run from Abraham Lincoln Park down to South Point 1605 02:13:33,54 --> 02:13:37,46 coal apartments so that we have that complete tie 1606 02:13:37,83 --> 02:13:44,51 a sensually from all the way from Bay Road and beyond all the way down the hill 1607 02:13:44,56 --> 02:13:50,91 down past basis. So thank you for that see no further discussion for Roll Call the 1608 02:13:51,02 --> 02:13:57,67 police call. Metzeler more for eyes setting fire 1609 02:13:57,68 --> 02:14:03,61 marshal inspection fees moved. The fire marshals made the following recommendations 1610 02:14:03,62 --> 02:14:07,81 to ensure the town of Penfield provides consistency with the New York State Fire 1611 02:14:07,82 --> 02:14:11,87 code in the town board has reviewed the recommendations and concurs with the town 1612 02:14:11,88 --> 02:14:16,41 staff's findings therefore be it Resolved That the operational permit fee and fire 1613 02:14:16,42 --> 02:14:22,42 safety inspection fee be established as the operational permit set at fifty dollars 1614 02:14:22,69 --> 02:14:28,97 in the fire safety inspection fee set at fifty dollars OK. Thank you 1615 02:14:29,71 --> 02:14:34,73 discussion. So you know for their discussion of this resolution and ask for 1616 02:14:34,74 --> 02:14:40,58 a roll call please call. Metzeler more for eyes 1617 02:14:41,14 --> 02:14:41,96 authorisation for 1618 02:14:41,97 --> 02:14:47,73 a supervisor to sign recreation contracts so move second this resolution authorizes 1619 02:14:47,90 --> 02:14:53,59 town supervisor design recreation contracts some ones for sound engineering for the 1620 02:14:53,60 --> 02:14:56,92 amphitheater concert series this summer and the other one is for 1621 02:14:56,93 --> 02:15:03,49 a guest director to the young players production in June. Thank you 1622 02:15:04,32 --> 02:15:08,12 discussion. See no discussion I'd ask for 1623 02:15:08,13 --> 02:15:14,46 a roll call vote for you. That's where I found more for eyes. 1624 02:15:15,61 --> 02:15:20,66 All right that brings us to the next part of the resolution all business is there 1625 02:15:20,67 --> 02:15:24,74 any old business to come before the board to see just real quickly Mr Supervisor if 1626 02:15:24,75 --> 02:15:27,33 I can at the beginning of this meeting we had 1627 02:15:27,34 --> 02:15:32,83 a mixed use the route to fifty mixed use development public hearing in we had 1628 02:15:32,84 --> 02:15:36,71 a couple speakers talking I just wanted to play now if I can because I think it's 1629 02:15:36,72 --> 02:15:42,88 a critical point that the committee itself the mixed use to fifty committee were 1630 02:15:42,92 --> 02:15:47,46 residents and property owners of the town of Penfield it was not the. Own board 1631 02:15:47,82 --> 02:15:51,99 that was on that committee I was the liaison to that committee they made the 1632 02:15:52,00 --> 02:15:57,86 recommendation. In the manual that we have in front of us today that is publicly 1633 02:15:57,87 --> 02:16:03,00 available and when you look on page eighty six of that mean you will it under 1634 02:16:03,01 --> 02:16:08,22 acknowledgements it points out the members of the route to fifty mixed use steering 1635 02:16:08,23 --> 02:16:13,36 committee thirteen residents and property owners and the critical part that I think 1636 02:16:13,37 --> 02:16:18,08 one speaker may have confused some of the some of the members here in the in the 1637 02:16:18,09 --> 02:16:22,88 audience are those watching this is that the mixed use the mixed use steering 1638 02:16:22,89 --> 02:16:27,72 committee the route to fifty steering committee also comprised of residents that 1639 02:16:27,73 --> 02:16:32,92 live in surrounding neighborhoods not just property owners of the impacted 1640 02:16:32,93 --> 02:16:37,77 properties in this document and I'm looking at the document right now and you can 1641 02:16:37,78 --> 02:16:38,41 see where there's 1642 02:16:38,42 --> 02:16:43,29 a route to fifty residents there's East Penfield Homeowner's Association 1643 02:16:43,30 --> 02:16:48,16 representative there's the whale in Rhode Shire court two representatives so two 1644 02:16:48,17 --> 02:16:52,84 individuals country club East representative there's another country club East 1645 02:16:52,85 --> 02:16:57,43 neighborhood representative there's a run Renwick run representative 1646 02:16:57,78 --> 02:17:00,68 a Tomlinson drive representative and 1647 02:17:00,69 --> 02:17:03,70 a Mallory Ling representative and so I think that's just 1648 02:17:03,71 --> 02:17:08,85 a critical part moving forward that it wasn't just property owners that were 1649 02:17:08,86 --> 02:17:13,98 a part of putting this document that we have before us together it was also 1650 02:17:13,99 --> 02:17:18,76 residents in surrounding neighborhoods that were part of the decision making 1651 02:17:18,77 --> 02:17:21,97 process and putting this document forward as 1652 02:17:21,98 --> 02:17:27,49 a recommendation to this town board thank you thank you very much point any other 1653 02:17:27,84 --> 02:17:32,96 any other old business OK soon on his journey new business to come before the board 1654 02:17:33,06 --> 02:17:39,32 deceive me. Again scene nine brings us to our second public participation and if 1655 02:17:39,33 --> 02:17:43,45 you're in the audience you can address the board on any matter calling it three 1656 02:17:43,46 --> 02:17:47,99 four zero eight seven seven one or log on to Penfield dot org sorry one that would 1657 02:17:48,00 --> 02:17:53,83 like to address the board on any matter OK seeing none and there being no further 1658 02:17:53,84 --> 02:18:00,19 business to come before the board this meeting of the town board of May fourth two 1659 02:18:00,20 --> 02:18:04,19 thousand and sixteen stands adjourned I'd like to walk thank everyone that 1660 02:18:04,20 --> 02:18:07,79 participated in tonight's meeting Thank you defend field T.V. 1661 02:18:07,92 --> 02:18:11,09 Meese officially adjourned at nine twenty three P.M. .