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And good evening ladies and gentlemen I
call the order the classrooms County Board

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of Commissioners business meeting July
twenty first two thousand and sixteen first

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thing we usually do is Mr Kopper county
administrator will call the role Well good

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evening commissioners where we are joined
feeding with the county council Mr

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Stephen Matt Gore and clerk of the board
Mary RATH I'll start with the role

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commissioner Runnels. Missioner Bernard
Jerry model theory all please join me in

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the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Yes. Yes.

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Well announced that the
board will recess as

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a Board of County Commissioners and convene
as the Housing Authority board for the

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next item and Mr Paul Reynolds has
already been introduced this is

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a housing authority consent agenda and
asked the clerk to read the housing

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authority consent agenda by
title OK. The Housing Authority

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consented gender we have
approval to execute

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a memorandum of understanding between the
housing authority of Clackamas County and

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town center Green's limited partnership by
its general partner central city concern

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for administrating twenty one project
based vouchers at Clackamas Town Center

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courtyard apartments and we
have approval to enter into

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a housing assistance payment contract with
Town Center Town Center greens limited

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partnership for twenty one project based
vouchers to town center center court yard

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apartments and that's the Housing Authority
consent agenda all right and I assume

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you don't want to pull the
site in commission or rent

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a movie approved housing authority consent
agenda I'll second that the commissioner

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Reynolds with the motion to Mr Smith was
second to further discussion to ensure

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Bernard this wanted to say we had not
changed it to or the facility the other day

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and it was it's

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a great facility and provides lots
of opportunity for those people who

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have had challenging lives and might give
them the opportunity to turn their lives

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around so it was

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a great great opportunity and that's at
the one two and three bedroom sites. Mr

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Smith I was going to say this for later but
I'll say it now since you did yeah Jim

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that was

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a very nice. Opening they had we toured
the bedrooms like you said and they used

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materials that were very new and modern
and. Just really interesting to see I

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loved it. The this facility will house
ninety adults who might be out on the street

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because they come in from mental illness
and drug and alcohol addictions and

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they've been reunited with their children
who normally would be in foster care and

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there was about this warehouse about ninety
adults and one hundred kids definitely

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supported housing because there will be
counselors on site to make sure these

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people are doing what they need to do to
be successful in life and that would be

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probably abstain and get their mental health
treatment and become employed and some

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of them are employed we listened
to one inspiring story from

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a twenty three year old woman who will be
reunited with her son after she got into

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some trouble and it was your inspiring
she's been on the program she's been

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educated IRA should say trained and now
she's going to be working at this facility

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to help other people's. And they
do pay rent. Although it's much

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lower but I think this is

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a good step up and just one small way to
prevent homelessness in Clackamas County

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wish we had more facilities
like these but this is

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a start and these facilities are very
expensive to build the unit sixty of them

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cost fifteen million dollars US two
hundred fifty thousand dollars

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a unit so affordable housing unfortunately
is not affordable to build roads we

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build a lot faster but this is

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a consortium of different to entities that
help put this together for the for these

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people and the more we can address especially
like Mr Smith said the mental illness

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factor let alone the drug and alcohol.
Problems that people have the better off

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these people would be and they will be on
the streets so the good stuff all right

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are we ready for the question Mary
commissioner Reynolds I can Mr Smith

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I can Mr Benoit I share Ludlow I passes
for zero announced the board will Journal

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the Housing Authority
board of governors got

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a Board of Commissioners for the remainder
of the meeting is time Thank you

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Commissioner Reynolds appreciate you
coming today. And it's time for citizens

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communicational Co Ford Les Poole surely
Morgan now surely Morgan rather than have

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all of your close friends there talk
for three minutes apiece I've been to

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determine I'm going to give her ten minutes
to represent them all we'll start with

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Mr Poole. If I can get away with
it I don't need one of my minutes.

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I'll try to be done in two because they've
got that's where I'm going to get into.

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Something that I noticed in the paper. In
the Tribune that I just wanted to share

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one last full Obviously I live in Clackamas
County it says Tigard could kill

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Southwest MAX line Tremont chief says.
The project will stop the voters in that

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city rejected in the vendor So the message
that started here in Clackamas County

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about voting before you borrow hundreds
of millions of dollars is resonating

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elsewhere and I think the
message that started here

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a few years ago. Is probably why there was
some accountability and questions about

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the C.R.C.

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And we got into that fiasco so as we move
forward we can't afford any more of that

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and I'm certainly not saying the county is
responsible for that. What the county is

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responsible for is recently completing

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a great road project instead
of bungling it like the C.R.C.

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. I brought a picture. I walked in here

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a couple years ago set that photo up here
I've saved it for you that's the sunrise

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corridor overpass from there
construction. I do want to compliment

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everybody that worked on that it was

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a big endeavor Phase one is being wrapped
up I was there for the dedication what

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it's going to mean as more than you or I
being able to get around the county is

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going to save

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a lot of trucking time and it's going to
help keep companies distribution companies

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like Fred Myers in Clackamas County with
good jobs that we need so I just want to

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thank the county for making that happen
and I'm looking forward to the completion

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of the project. Well if I could

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donate

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a minute I said you know who you know the
I should say that you know Fred Meyer

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stated that at the opening that
they'll be able to save half

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a million dollars on fuel by having that
brief bypass that they have there so it's

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quite amazing they said that they would be
passing that on to their customers which

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is great stuff but all of us were at the
Grand Opening it was great to see that

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open and remember that that was the first
freeway expressway to open in thirty

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years of the port a metropolitan area
and we need more of that and frankly

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a little less of light rail you know this
is thank you the Southwest corridor is

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expected to cost two point five BILLION
dollars BILLION And I said to Metro today

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down to J.

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PAC that that two point five billion
dollars would take care of the major for

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chokepoints in the port image Bolton
area that being two seventeen to

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a five the Rose Quarter and the Boone
bridge in Wilsonville it take care all that

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but instead we're putting in the light
rail yet again so I gave my opinion today

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thank you for that surely you've got ten
Good evening commissioners My name is

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surely Morgan the founder of the citizens
for public safety quality of life and

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property values you've heard that name
before commissioner Schrader and Smith have

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indicated that we should bring our
recommendations for amending marijuana land use

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so today we are doing just
that we have put together

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a ninety three page document that includes

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a number of discretionary Amendment requests
this document provides an executive

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summary

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a review of five commercial marijuana case
studies health and safety concerns and

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our proposed amendments since I am unable
to cover this in ten minutes we are

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asking for a meeting with Don crop
and Mike McAllister we met with them

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a couple of weeks ago to review the other
proposals that we are making. Today I

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will highlight some key issues I had

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a beautiful powerpoint to show you so you
can get some good visuals but I'm just

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going to have to wait my boys and give you
the look see through my heart so first

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citizens have requested an immediate
moratorium until all public safety quality of

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life and property values standards
have been met I will review today and

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introduction the five case studies and

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a highlight list of our key top issues
that are concerning to us currently caucus

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county has one hundred fifty five marijuana
land use applications and is the second

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highest in the state in terms of
applications ninety eight percent of those

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applications are for marijuana production
boring Sandy Oregon City Eagle Creek

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Canby Beaver Creek Clackamas being the
highest if you look at Maureen in

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a three mile radius it has almost taken
over the entire area with production

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wholesaling extraction center and many
unknown medical marijuana grow sites as

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a reminder there are over three thousand
four hundred forty eight medical marijuana

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grows in Clackamas County with Oregon City
Milwaukee Sandy and Damascus leading the

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way

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a review of the case studies include number
one one three four seven one south Leland

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road the site is a four acre in a
few parcel leasing to five L.C.S.

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Ten feet off the property lines there
are six thirty by one hundred foot

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greenhouses to sixty by eighty three
primary processing buildings forty four

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projected parking spaces no water no
well no plumbing for sanitary. The

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impacts are a commercial
industrial complex in

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a rural residential farming area and his
boxing views there are code violations

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with the illegal excavation there is

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a fifty five planned outdoor illegal grow
before even receive the license will see

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license and simply a loss of property value
it's the site sure if you were to take

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a drive down Leland road you would see
five mailboxes being posted for one site

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seventy eight foot high fence
blocking views and again

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a fifty five illegal outdoor marijuana
grow that is in public view from the

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neighbor's home our proposed amendments
are please consider one license per

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site for

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a maximum growth canopy restrict the
blocking of use in some type of ordinance or

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amendment require septic plumbing and water
on site require applicant to provide

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and your water testing so that we can
measure the potential damage that will go

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into the well systems there because there
is no water waste disposal requirements

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Number two two three two five four
South Ridge Road in the recreate it's

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a timber zone the site is

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a thirty thousand square foot horse
arena that's being rezoned to

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a commercial the impacts are upgrading
an egg road to commercial use

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there's no septic or sanitary requirements
that are being required there are no

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marijuana waste disposal requirements
there's no annual updated county assessor's

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office land use assessment with upgrading
of the building where the hundred

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thousand the taxes over the last three
years haven't been upgraded at all so if

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we're going to make additional funding
then we should have some kind of plan to

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reassess those properties who are refurbishing
those kinds of facilities land use

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permit for commercial being issued for
industrial complexes. Front road commercial

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access in

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a rural residential road is making the
property at the Citizens very angry the site

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to word is simply a
commercial trucks accessing

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a commercial structure through an
agricultural access the county should have

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required this to be updated because it's
causing major damage in terms of water

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runoff from running into other people's
properties again no annual real estate

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about you ations have been made community
acceptance is pretty low we're proposing

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that you require all commercial industrial
standards to be implied if you're going

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to allow them to be in those zones
require annual tax assessor's

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a valuation again require septic plumbing
and water on site and there should be

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a marijuana mitigation fee for the cost
of permitting and enforcing and you might

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want to consider it police surcharge would
also be an order number three two eight

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seven five to se Kelso road it is an E.F.

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You parcel three acres turning a
twenty two stable horse arena into

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a commercial industrial complex the impacts
excessive tree removal sixty to eighty

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forty to sixty foot high for and pine trees
were removed the first two months the

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site sure it impacted the neighbors
greatly they vacated their home and they

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haven't been in it since the community
acceptance is nil. Proposed amendments

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restrict the

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a few properties and canopy sized to five
acres rather than three acres and under

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its so impacting number four one zero
seven seven zero southeast three hundred

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sixty second in boring twenty acre E.F.

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You Pastor surrounded by R F L five
stone and that is turning it into

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a commercial industrial zone by
putting in thirty six marijuana grow

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barns they are industrial looking
barns the impacts is that again it's

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a commercial industrial complex surrounded
by rural residential farming areas there

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are kids and families that live directly
across the street from this facility and

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of his going to increase traffic and have

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a significant effect and impact the community
is impacted by this greatly so we're

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proposing again the consistent theme please
consider one license per site or Max

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put maximum growth canopy that will help
to restrict the traffic flow where there

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are lots of families and children
number four number five actually

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is two six nine zero zero Ses Forrester
road I like this one on your behalf Mr

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Bernard it's

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a timber zone it was proposed eighteen
greenhouses indoor outdoor grows ten feet

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off property lines six thirty by a
hundred foot greenhouses and there is

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a you monkeys fence that has been wrapped
around this property and it looks like

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a prison compound which once was

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a pastor so we're proposing for this
simply that you allow some kind of

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tree barrier or require

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a tree barrier that is built around
that you have talked about this

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a lot but yet there has never been any
solutions brought forward to help mitigate

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that issue. Those are the five case
studies in the pocket you will see these

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properties demonstrated you will get

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a site tour via this pocket and see all the
additional details I cannot share with

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you today we have lined up basically what
we'd like to see and what we're proposing

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what the county's current regulations are
what the chutes counties regulations are

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as an example of a county in another part
of the state and as well what a well C.C.

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Is recommending So we've ran our
recommendations right down the middle as an

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example we would like to see
the fifty D.B. To thirty D.B.

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On the property line when you get on

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a five acre parcel and it is narrow two
hundred feet wide and you put your

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greenhouses ten feet off the property line
in one case basically it is sixty feet

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from the bedroom window of the neighbors
so sound is going to definitely be heard

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on top of our existing list there are some
major issues that we feel is important

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a lot of this was the legality of the issue
with marijuana but we would like to see

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that all existing medical marijuana grow
sites come into compliance within six

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months shoots County is requiring this in
their district so we know it can be done

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no land use applications should receive
building permits without first receiving

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their own. C.C.

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License this is happening in other counties
in the state in which they will not

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issue the building permits
until a well C.C.

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Picks up the phone and gives them

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a call and says hey they got
it that way there's not

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a bunch of debris left if they've built out
which they all are building out before

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they even have their licenses so pretty
risky but they're risky people I would ask

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that you would do a fifteen hundred foot
neighbor notification because this is

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a huge problem for most citizens who are
experiencing this. A thousand foot step

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back for all marijuana production facilities
from all types of schools were seen

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marijuana production facilities showing
up close by to school areas and we would

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ask that the county consider site visits
to evaluate tropic environmental impacts

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prior to issuing

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a land use application so that you can see
what's going on with that you will see

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our rest of our concerns in your pocket
I'm happy to answer any questions. Like

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you've got some interesting suggestions not
all of them are bad that's for sure but

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this is something I appreciate Mr Krupp
and Mr McAllister may be with you to go

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over them and will I'm sure we'll have

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a chance to review them and I appreciate
your hard work all of the people in the

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audience their hard work towards us thank
you thank you. And now we're going to go

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on to a public discussion
item and this is this is

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a discussion item regarding the proposed
fuel tax measure on November sixteenth

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ballot and part of Cartmel apartment and
Transportation and Development will have

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a Power Point and by the way if there
is no action on this item we will have

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a public hearing scheduled Thursday August
eleventh two thousand and sixteen to

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refer this item to the voters
this will be at the ten A.M.

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Regular schedule Business me so Dawn
Yes usually do the intros go ahead

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OK well. The public discussion item and
they it's an opportunity for the public

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to speak to and talk about

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a proposed fuel tax measure on the November
two thousand and sixteen ballot that we

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have Barbara Cartmell our Director of
Transportation and Development here to give

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you

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a presentation thank you and good evening
commissioners Mr crap basically as you both

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very eloquently said I'm
here to just give you

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a brief update on where we are on our
transportation maintenance funding efforts.

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So in may have twenty sixteen the B.C.C.

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Put in an advisory vote with a ballot
question this is Shall the county pursue

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a vehicle registration fee for

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a limited amount of fears to pay for deferred
road maintenance we were very pleased

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with the response and that was

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a whopping sixty eight percent which for
potential ballot measures and taxes is

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pretty high and the answer was Yes So with
that guidance we want to head and since

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it was

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a county wide. Vote went ahead and
pulled the cities together and you folks

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met with the cities to discuss some of the
options that might be available to do

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that you looked at the twenty five dollar

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a year vehicle registration fee you
looked at fuel tax you looked at limited

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durations and you talked about identifying
specific project lists after you met

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with the cities we went ahead and
did the same thing with our. Local.

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Not not established
jurisdictions but our C.P.O.

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As our Hamlets and our villages and share
the same information with us the city's

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recommendation to the Board was
an eight cent fuel tax with

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a seven year duration and identified
project lists the cities themselves would

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determine the level of detail where they
were involved and they also suggested

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a sixty forty split of the revenues that
would be generated sixty percent going to

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the county and forty percent
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So. After hearing the
recommendation the board met in

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a study session and move forward
with the suggestion that you have

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a six cents gas tax that as you can see
from the slide we've put up estimate is

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estimated to raise nine
million dollars a year for

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a total of seven years that would be sixty
three million dollars the funds would be

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split with the cities as I mentioned before
so the county itself would net close to

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forty million dollars for the seven year
duration thirty seven point eight with

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another twenty five million
going to the cities. We

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have identified seven paving packages.
All over the county will get to

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a map here in a second that shows

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a little bit about that with the lion's
share going strictly to paving and strictly

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to maintenance on the roads no new capital
we have thrown in another three point

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seven million for safety improvements as
well and the cities can use the funds in

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any manner they wish as long as it's
consistent with state law when you use gas or

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fuel taxes. So let me get to my

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little list here. We've tried to color
code some of the paving packages to give

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folks an idea of where the county
anyway has gone and packaged

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a so if I can I don't think the little
light shows up very well there is the red

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package and I'm just going to point out

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a few of these so folks can get an idea
of how we have dispersed them throughout

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the county we wanted to try to get

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a balanced. Distribution of the packages
over the seven years the decisions on

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which roads are made very
carefully and there's

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a number of items that
they look at we keep

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a very well defined pavement management
system going in the road department so you

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know road condition and number of cars
traveled in years since it's last been

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repaired in the condition of the base and
all kinds of things go into which roads

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would get addressed first
but this also gives

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a general idea that we would be working
throughout the county trying to give every

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area at least

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a smattering of road improvements with this
initial package out again package A is

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pretty much Beaver Creek I do want to point
out that it is Beaver Creek south of

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Oregon City as soon as I went out with
this once before somebody came over said

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they work it doesn't need to be paved
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south I wanted to point
that out package B.

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Is the lighter green it's just to the
east of Beaver Creek and that's they're

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calling that the Highland package involves
Ferguson and lower highland road if we

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look at the gold that's up in the urban
area lot of stuff right there in that field

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alder crest Oak Grove area
to support a lot of that's

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a lot of housing in that area package D.

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Is the black and it's kind of interesting
it's showing up maybe purple in the map

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but it's kind of dances around a
little there's a little bit of up

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a little bit of it up on Johnson Creek
and then there's some down south county

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right by the tail of Beaver Creek by the
red. That involves Malloy Avenue as well.

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That pink area is can be

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a nest of Kheta and we've got some dark
green just south of that that is can be

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Markham and then the last one is
the blue the light blue is back up

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north and involve some of them like one
twenty second in there and then goes heads

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east south to have buried in Kelso So I
think it's pretty well distributed within

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the county for those for those first seven
years of effort that we might be getting

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going with.

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And just to sort of recap again the county
wide total per year is the nine million

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of which the county would receive five point
four million the city's portion would

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be three point six And over
the seven years it would be

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a total generation of sixty three
million and I believe. After that if we

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move forward with this decision we've got

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a couple timelines to share by August
nineteenth we have to have about title in for

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the November election by August twenty
sixth any challenges to the ballot measure

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have to be made and then by August thirtieth
any arguments in favor for the ballot

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book would have to be in and with that I
guess I would turn it back to you for your

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discussion and testimony from anybody
that for him might have questions as well

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thank you Barbara. Actually the cities
that come up with the eight cents and they

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also asked for

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a fifty fifty split that was going to
happen and we lowered it of course to six

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cents because this is kind of

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a test case about trust with the public do
they believe that we will keep our word

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and sunset this little certainly be in that
which is proposed to the voters so that

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a law gives him do they believe that we
will use this money judiciously and I

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believe we will you know as
well said This is been said for

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a period of years and every year we drop
seventy point five million dollars in need

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to maintain fourteen hundred miles of road.
That twenty five million would be added

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to this total year seven year of nearly
forty million dollars to allow us to do

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more on our roadways services talk to

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a lot of cities called all the mayors
today and ask them if they had

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a concern and the grand majority do not
and the fact that they asked us to do

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several tweaks which we did
on Tuesday to the I.G.A.

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Intergovernmental agreement it appears like
they're all going to be supporting this

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possibly except for Oregon City Gladstone
for inexplicable reasons now we're going

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to open it up to the public and ask that
they come forward we'll start with less

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pool and Bill Osberg.

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Beginning again. I don't think folks are
coming it's an awesome day and it's kind

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of tempting to go play but this is one of
those issues it's gone on too long so I

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appreciate folks being here and and I do
want to thank the staff I mean it sounds

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like I'm bottom up today but you guys of
state after it I've I've been one of the

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biggest proponents of dealing with this and
I'm not someone that generally goes for

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fees or tax increases I was out there making
sure that we didn't pay for Portland's

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long neglected bridge so it was so minutes
tried to drive this conversation to

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a better place. I'm pleased that we did
have an advisory vote it would have been

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great to just be done with it in May But
at this point we've got an opportunity and

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I don't know if we can get six cents out
of the public. Maybe four cents maybe five

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cents I'm the public feeling stretched
out there and not here to play with your

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numbers but. We don't we
don't want to ask for

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a little too much and end up with nothing
come November. I won't bring up the I P

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twenty eight and why did. That has got to
be defeated I don't care who you are I

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don't care what party you belong to you
if you never voted in your life it's not

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going to work and it's going to take money
away from everything I just wrote going

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to fund a couple of long long long term
problem problems that's not going to fix

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a road so county's got to make this happen
and I'm hopeful that that we come up

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with something that works. I also
would point out that the budget

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found

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a good downpayment this year and last year
we're trying to do more to fund the roads

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up front so whatever you're asking for in
November is lower and it shows that that

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there's been some effort to try and
squeeze out and find money for the roads

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because the last thing I'll say about this
is that it's real obvious we've heard it

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a million times and then in
the back of the room there's

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a big poster that says this is like the
foundation of your house is crumbling and

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you can keep patching the road if you can
keep it just in the doors you know you

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can keep pretending that you don't need
to jack that house up there is the

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foundation and our roads are going
to be that way we're going to be at

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a point where if we don't finally addressed
we will be really sorry in the future

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so stay after it and I look forward to the
hearing that's coming up in August you

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know that's twice I've spoken in less
than three minutes so rare. Thank you

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thank you sir I was ready Well let's see

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a little bit of stuff here
to keep you on because

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a little closer to the mike is
story. Actually pull out to. Settle

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a better much. All right so the step
is to participate cities have been

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a house to pass

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a resolution sounds nice and friendly but
as I understand what you mean to say is

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signed off on this tax and receive forty
percent or don't sign off and receive

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nothing which to me sounds more like extortion
rather than an agreement with cities

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. This is going to be the largest tax in
the state to my understanding at least in

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looking at the Oregon dot gov page on taxes
or gas taxes short of State and Federal

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with the only other counties that were
listed on there was Washington County with

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a one cent tax a moment county with

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a three cent tax. You talked about
public trust and public doesn't doesn't

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trust that our money's
been spent properly on

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a Gladstone I know for instance
just since I've gotten

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a little involved down there are some of
the stuff that's going on just if you

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wander in and scratching your head why
it is the government spends our money so

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carelessly and that's one of those things
that I think that people are going to

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remember in November I think that the roads
need to be taken care of I mean that's

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that's obvious but I think

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a six and six cent tax. When we compare
that to other counties is twice what any

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other county has in the state of Oregon the
other questions and concerns I have is

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a slash for seven years and it's supposed
to go away and the amount that it's going

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to bring in. On the page
here it's so there was

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a two hundred sixty five million dollar gap
between the amount of road maintenance

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needed and available funds and this isn't
even going to touch it so we're still

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going to have hundreds of millions of
dollars at issue here and I'm not sure what

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you guys are going to do to take care of
that. That's about all I have to say.

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But I would be much more in favor of going
to three cent tax. It just more along

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the lines of what other cities and counties
have done in the state of Oregon. Well

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it's interesting you say you want to
three cent tax and then you criticize us

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because it's not enough money to fill our
gap so I'm confused about what you're

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saying and I didn't say I want to three
cent tax I'm saying I would understand I'm

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right nobody likes taxes Well there's

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a point where we realize we have the ice
in the service Chad think you made your

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point the reason why this is in writing
is because when the county commissioners

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all five of the Sat down with most of the
cities in attendance the city says we

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want an agreement in writing basically
because they didn't trust us that we would

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give them forty percent OK That's why
it's in writing well as writer of the

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contract and the county has
taken really the lead in

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a situation that's been with us for ten to
fifteen years and we decided to take the

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00:34:57,78 --> 00:35:01,80
lead and asked the citizens if they want
if they feel that our roads were bad

434
00:35:01,81 --> 00:35:06,44
enough shape that they'd pay an extra six
cents and by the way as you remember

435
00:35:06,89 --> 00:35:10,40
Barbara Cartmell said they
wanted eight cents they wanted

436
00:35:10,46 --> 00:35:15,03
a lot more money when that we said no we're
not going to do that and in fact many

437
00:35:15,04 --> 00:35:15,69
of us wanted

438
00:35:15,70 --> 00:35:20,85
a vehicle registration fee because we
thought that was more fair but the cities

439
00:35:20,86 --> 00:35:25,97
demanded demanded from us that they wanted
to fuel tax and the reason why we said

440
00:35:25,98 --> 00:35:31,60
yes was is because we need the votes in
the cities to pass this if this was vote

441
00:35:31,61 --> 00:35:37,34
was left to unincorporated Clackamas County
of which they all drive on our roads it

442
00:35:37,35 --> 00:35:43,74
probably would not pass so we sweeten the
pot and says you know city to get you get

443
00:35:43,75 --> 00:35:48,92
forty forty percent now for the town of
City of Oregon City for instance that's

444
00:35:48,93 --> 00:35:51,16
five hundred thousand dollars and that's

445
00:35:51,17 --> 00:35:54,26
a lot of money they can pave the
roads with for the city I'm

446
00:35:54,27 --> 00:35:58,90
a lot of very small town that's one hundred
forty thousand dollars and they can't

447
00:35:58,91 --> 00:36:01,06
wait to do that because
right now they're paving

448
00:36:01,07 --> 00:36:06,63
a lot of their roads with their own financing.
When we wrote the contract that the

449
00:36:06,64 --> 00:36:11,80
city was wanted we said Sure you need to
support this you need to list you need to

450
00:36:11,81 --> 00:36:17,11
come out in favor of this and agree or yeah
you won't because what they would do is

451
00:36:17,12 --> 00:36:22,56
then they would say oh we're word against
what the county wants to do we're going

452
00:36:22,57 --> 00:36:28,83
to defeat this tax. You know you can't
have it both ways you can have on one hand

453
00:36:28,84 --> 00:36:33,66
cities demanding from the county that
they do something for their favor and the

454
00:36:33,67 --> 00:36:38,49
county coming back and say oh you guys
are OK I understand it has nothing to do

455
00:36:38,50 --> 00:36:43,24
with extortion It has nothing to do with
her feelings it has something to do with

456
00:36:43,25 --> 00:36:48,80
getting the business done that I think the
citizens of this county may support Now

457
00:36:48,81 --> 00:36:54,14
if the folks don't want the roads fixed and
they won't vote for the tax I think six

458
00:36:54,15 --> 00:37:00,69
cents is probably very doable you
were talking about. One of the

459
00:37:00,70 --> 00:37:05,32
largest taxes Well I believe the city
of Portland just passed in the primary

460
00:37:05,77 --> 00:37:10,85
a ten cent gas tax so I
think that is not true as

461
00:37:10,86 --> 00:37:16,73
a city of powerlessness and counties counties
C.-A So in that well Portman takes up

462
00:37:16,74 --> 00:37:22,23
most of no mechanic so you know I think
it's different tack and Clackamas County

463
00:37:22,24 --> 00:37:27,71
has fourteen hundred miles of roads we have
more roads than any county in the state

464
00:37:27,72 --> 00:37:33,71
of Oregon. We also have one point three
million acres were many people come from

465
00:37:33,96 --> 00:37:37,76
out of area to go play in our force
in our snow in our rivers and

466
00:37:38,13 --> 00:37:43,28
a lot of things that other jurisdictions
rely on our roads for you know we could

467
00:37:43,29 --> 00:37:45,45
charge every person that
comes into the county

468
00:37:45,46 --> 00:37:49,90
a fee to use our roads boy wouldn't we be
more rich and we'd know what to do with

469
00:37:49,91 --> 00:37:53,65
but that's not how we do our roads
we know that this is going to be

470
00:37:53,66 --> 00:37:58,20
a shortfall from the overall need but we're
hoping that other government agencies

471
00:37:58,74 --> 00:38:04,76
possibly the federal government and there.
You know they collect the federal gas

472
00:38:04,97 --> 00:38:09,45
tax as well and the state government
during this tax legislative session will

473
00:38:09,46 --> 00:38:14,85
possibly do something to help supplement
us but. We cannot wait for other

474
00:38:14,86 --> 00:38:19,48
governments to pay our bills for us we need
to take the bull by the horns and chart

475
00:38:19,49 --> 00:38:23,59
our own destiny and make our own decisions
if the people don't want to go down that

476
00:38:23,60 --> 00:38:27,54
road it's their decision we
tried we did not implement

477
00:38:27,55 --> 00:38:33,90
a tax unilaterally we asked the voters for
it which I always said I would do when I

478
00:38:33,91 --> 00:38:38,73
was running for office I would ask the
voters if they want this we could have

479
00:38:38,74 --> 00:38:42,47
implemented a vehicle registration
fee but I do not think that's

480
00:38:42,48 --> 00:38:47,91
a right thing to do without the voters being
asked so that's where I'm coming from

481
00:38:48,33 --> 00:38:52,16
Mr Osborne he said this is the first time
testify I want to thank you for coming

482
00:38:52,17 --> 00:38:56,31
forward and you know I really appreciate
people who the first time they probably

483
00:38:56,32 --> 00:38:56,45
get

484
00:38:56,46 --> 00:39:00,45
a little more nervous than they need to
be the media made some good points in the

485
00:39:00,46 --> 00:39:00,70
it is

486
00:39:00,71 --> 00:39:05,44
a matter of trust and we have to develop
that trust with people the you know we've

487
00:39:05,81 --> 00:39:10,81
were not required to give that forty
percent of gas tax to our cities but as

488
00:39:10,82 --> 00:39:17,35
commission Smith said We do need their
support and it didn't we didn't do that very

489
00:39:17,39 --> 00:39:21,69
easily we decided to do it because they
claim they need it and we believe that they

490
00:39:21,70 --> 00:39:23,16
do and they can offer

491
00:39:23,17 --> 00:39:26,55
a lot of support we've gave some Kabhie
outs with this you know government

492
00:39:26,56 --> 00:39:32,31
agreement that they would support us by
resolution and detail to their citizen what

493
00:39:32,32 --> 00:39:35,75
they intend to do with the money and I think
that's always good and transparent to

494
00:39:35,76 --> 00:39:39,50
let the citizens know what they intend to
do with their dollars in their particular

495
00:39:39,51 --> 00:39:44,10
city so we look forward to produce for the
voters and promoting it but you know it

496
00:39:44,11 --> 00:39:47,49
may ultimately fail I hope it
doesn't but we believe it's

497
00:39:47,50 --> 00:39:51,58
a prudent and responsible thing
to do is to ask we've been in

498
00:39:51,59 --> 00:39:55,75
a sense kicking the can down the road for
three years now it is time to pose the

499
00:39:55,76 --> 00:40:00,28
question and ask and if they refuse
we'll continue probably to ask because

500
00:40:00,68 --> 00:40:04,85
otherwise the roads fall apart and they'll
still blame us after that mission of

501
00:40:04,86 --> 00:40:11,51
Bernard Well I agree I mean we we
were we all had planned to talk about

502
00:40:11,52 --> 00:40:16,62
a vehicle registration fee in the
cities did what the gas tax.

503
00:40:18,65 --> 00:40:20,83
You know we have a real we have

504
00:40:20,84 --> 00:40:27,60
a responsibility to the future generations
that we mean tain our investments and we

505
00:40:27,61 --> 00:40:33,35
can only do that with the support of
the gas tax because you can't use have

506
00:40:33,36 --> 00:40:40,07
a large tax property taxes
but I think that. You know

507
00:40:40,49 --> 00:40:46,04
it's nowhere close to what we actually
need all we can hope is that tourism in

508
00:40:46,05 --> 00:40:50,98
Clackamas County is really good and all
those people are buying gas in Clackamas

509
00:40:50,99 --> 00:40:56,41
County and that money comes back because
this is an estimate and I assume it has to

510
00:40:56,42 --> 00:41:01,43
be an estimate because we don't actually
know you know for certain that you know

511
00:41:01,44 --> 00:41:07,01
people buying gas in caucus kind of May
And some people while people claim this

512
00:41:07,05 --> 00:41:13,14
many times over the years that so they
won't come here buy their gas well I don't

513
00:41:13,15 --> 00:41:19,98
necessarily think that's true. But
you know we have to invest in these

514
00:41:19,99 --> 00:41:26,84
assets and if we don't frankly
future generations will have to. So

515
00:41:27,59 --> 00:41:31,51
I've got us on the ballot and we're doing
what we were asked to do and that's to

516
00:41:31,52 --> 00:41:34,69
put it on the ballot and do
appreciate you guys put it to

517
00:41:34,70 --> 00:41:38,56
a vote of the people I think that is the
right thing to do obviously if they voted

518
00:41:38,57 --> 00:41:44,71
and then I don't know what I'm talking
about. And when your response to Portland's

519
00:41:44,72 --> 00:41:51,13
talks I don't live in Portland by choice
and I never would post to write thank you

520
00:41:51,14 --> 00:41:56,80
both next to Thelma Hagan Miller and
it's got her harder it could be harder.

521
00:41:59,32 --> 00:42:00,72
OK Good for her.

522
00:42:10,78 --> 00:42:17,56
Either one of you can go first. Good

523
00:42:17,57 --> 00:42:24,39
evening Carol Ludlow and commissioners
My name is Thelma Hagen MELLER. I

524
00:42:24,40 --> 00:42:24,60
am

525
00:42:24,61 --> 00:42:31,63
a resident of the an incorporated
area of our county. Known

526
00:42:31,75 --> 00:42:38,73
as grow. I am here to speak
to the road maintenance issue

527
00:42:39,01 --> 00:42:44,76
and to compliment our county Department
of Transportation and Development

528
00:42:46,71 --> 00:42:53,54
I had occasion about six months ago to
drive the high away from the Washington

529
00:42:53,55 --> 00:43:00,24
coast to I five east
of Long View the night

530
00:43:00,28 --> 00:43:05,28
was dark and rainy what I encountered was

531
00:43:05,29 --> 00:43:10,94
a very unsafe driving situation
because of the support

532
00:43:11,44 --> 00:43:17,45
striping identifying the lanes
and sides of the highway

533
00:43:18,43 --> 00:43:21,69
people don't necessarily realize such

534
00:43:21,73 --> 00:43:27,22
a safety issue as Lane
striping and fog lines as

535
00:43:27,23 --> 00:43:33,69
a part of our road maintenance
program but. I will be voting

536
00:43:33,70 --> 00:43:40,46
yes on the road maintenance ballot measure
as part of my belief in the safety

537
00:43:40,59 --> 00:43:46,72
of our county roads I am looking
forward to the list of projects being

538
00:43:46,73 --> 00:43:51,60
proposed into the sunset
date of seven years as

539
00:43:51,61 --> 00:43:58,48
a senior citizen still driving I
might add. Safety is the number

540
00:43:58,49 --> 00:44:05,33
one place I am willing to
direct my limited dollars thank

541
00:44:05,34 --> 00:44:12,29
you thank you. And of. Light. Or

542
00:44:12,47 --> 00:44:19,39
next gen is from Will she
go oh. Hi. My name's

543
00:44:19,40 --> 00:44:20,52
Scott harder and I just have

544
00:44:20,53 --> 00:44:25,40
a few brief comments it must be hard to be
in your shoes and quite honestly that's

545
00:44:25,41 --> 00:44:30,43
why most of us don't run for office everyone
wants good roads good parks and social

546
00:44:30,44 --> 00:44:34,94
services for those who really need them but
few of us want tax increases most of us

547
00:44:34,95 --> 00:44:35,59
feel like we pay

548
00:44:35,60 --> 00:44:39,54
a lot in taxes so the government
must have all the money it needs as

549
00:44:39,55 --> 00:44:41,20
a real estate investor I care

550
00:44:41,21 --> 00:44:45,13
a lot about the condition of roads and
understand their impact on property values

551
00:44:45,33 --> 00:44:50,35
and the livability of the communities as
such I pay attention to the issue of road

552
00:44:50,36 --> 00:44:54,35
maintenance funding but many people don't
and they'd like you to just make do with

553
00:44:54,36 --> 00:44:58,29
what you have I get the fact that
maintenance construction costs continue to

554
00:44:58,30 --> 00:45:03,21
increase and yet revenues haven't and that
it costs about ten times more to rebuild

555
00:45:03,22 --> 00:45:07,92
a road than to do preventative maintenance
other counties have supplemented

556
00:45:08,04 --> 00:45:12,88
stagnant state and federal funds with local
resources it's time to do the same in

557
00:45:12,89 --> 00:45:17,53
Clackamas County I applaud you for doing
what is right for this community and for

558
00:45:17,54 --> 00:45:21,84
taking the steps to finally do what needs
to be done and I think six cents is

559
00:45:21,85 --> 00:45:26,36
nothing anybody who's using
the roads should pay

560
00:45:26,37 --> 00:45:32,77
a little extra to do it we you know
if your way out of the twenty five

561
00:45:32,97 --> 00:45:33,51
dollars be

562
00:45:33,52 --> 00:45:39,45
a registration fee or the six cents tax it
literally can mean twenty five bucks to

563
00:45:39,46 --> 00:45:40,02
somebody over

564
00:45:40,03 --> 00:45:43,89
a period here and you're right that doesn't
amount to much that should prevent them

565
00:45:43,90 --> 00:45:48,61
from voting for I can't believe that that
would cripple anyone you know it would.

566
00:45:49,79 --> 00:45:53,85
Well I appreciate you your comments and
you know it was said you know previously

567
00:45:53,86 --> 00:45:57,22
What do you do after seven years well then
hopefully we've garnered the trust of

568
00:45:57,23 --> 00:46:02,01
the public and we come back again and asking
for money proving that we had kept our

569
00:46:02,02 --> 00:46:06,93
word for the previous batch of money that
we use appreciate both testify and that's

570
00:46:07,68 --> 00:46:11,49
not less pool you're not using your full
three minutes here so I'm quite amazed at

571
00:46:11,50 --> 00:46:16,64
that thank you both I appreciate you showing
up tonight thank you OK That is our

572
00:46:16,65 --> 00:46:21,31
public discussion and Barbara Cartland
Thank you. No there is some do you have

573
00:46:22,10 --> 00:46:28,39
those maps on the table back here yet these
maps are very detailed all the packages

574
00:46:28,40 --> 00:46:33,20
A through G. And with an explanation
on the back. So if you'd like

575
00:46:33,21 --> 00:46:36,53
a copy of that especially the people who
testified be sure to pick one up before

576
00:46:36,54 --> 00:46:41,69
you leave. They're over there by the door
you standing right there yeah there they

577
00:46:41,70 --> 00:46:46,40
are like some of those would be great. And
now please in general it's time for the

578
00:46:46,41 --> 00:46:49,78
consent agenda I asked the clerk to
read the consent agenda by title.

579
00:46:54,08 --> 00:47:00,02
Consent agenda for July twenty fifth twenty
first under health housing and Human

580
00:47:00,03 --> 00:47:01,54
Services approval of

581
00:47:01,55 --> 00:47:06,71
a sub recipient agreement Amendment with
total Hutto for youth drug and alcohol

582
00:47:06,72 --> 00:47:12,68
prevention can be Sandy Esta keda And
Malala approval of an amendment to the sub

583
00:47:12,69 --> 00:47:19,28
recipient agreement with Toto who for
prevent net community schools approval of

584
00:47:19,29 --> 00:47:24,39
amendment to the sub recipient agreement
with Northwest family services for youth

585
00:47:24,40 --> 00:47:29,76
drug and alcohol prevention Oregon City
Godstone and Milwaukee approval of an

586
00:47:29,77 --> 00:47:34,85
intergovernmental agreement with Clackamas
Education Service District for focused

587
00:47:34,98 --> 00:47:41,73
child care networks. Approval of an agency
services contract with Compass Group USA

588
00:47:42,23 --> 00:47:47,83
be senior meals for food service for
five Clackamas County older American Act

589
00:47:47,84 --> 00:47:53,47
nutrition program meals cites approval of
an intergovernmental agreement Amendment

590
00:47:53,48 --> 00:47:58,05
Number three with the state of Oregon
Department of Human Services aging in people

591
00:47:58,06 --> 00:48:03,64
with disabilities division for the provision
of the Oregon money management program

592
00:48:03,68 --> 00:48:06,11
in Clackamas County approval of

593
00:48:06,12 --> 00:48:12,95
a construction contract with excavating
for the ramps and cross walk

594
00:48:12,99 --> 00:48:16,49
improvement projects approval of the U.S.

595
00:48:16,50 --> 00:48:21,98
Department of Housing and Urban Development
continue MN of care program planning

596
00:48:21,99 --> 00:48:25,93
grant agreement under finance approval of

597
00:48:25,94 --> 00:48:31,41
a contract with Portland real estate solutions
Portland Construction Solutions for

598
00:48:31,42 --> 00:48:37,65
the building envelope replacement at the
emergency operations center and approval

599
00:48:37,71 --> 00:48:43,62
of an authorization to purchase fourteen
Dodge Charger police patrol vehicles from

600
00:48:43,68 --> 00:48:48,66
Went Wentz now Motors company
under county administration

601
00:48:48,67 --> 00:48:54,06
a board order authorizing the sale of general
of county general obligation bonds to

602
00:48:54,07 --> 00:49:00,75
replace obsolete emergency radio communication
system under County Council approval

603
00:49:00,79 --> 00:49:00,95
of

604
00:49:00,96 --> 00:49:07,69
a release of deed restriction for property
located in Lake Oswego under the juvenile

605
00:49:07,70 --> 00:49:12,83
department approval to apply for the Bureau
of Land Management financial assistance

606
00:49:12,84 --> 00:49:18,55
opportunity grant to fund juvenile offender
work crews approval of amendment number

607
00:49:18,56 --> 00:49:23,18
one and two to the intergovernmental
agreement with the state of Oregon for title

608
00:49:23,37 --> 00:49:28,59
for funding. Under technology
services approval of

609
00:49:28,60 --> 00:49:33,27
a right away franchise agreement between
Clackamas broadband exchange and the city

610
00:49:33,28 --> 00:49:38,97
of Lake Oswego to use for the use of city
right away and approval to enter into

611
00:49:38,98 --> 00:49:43,85
a service level agreement between Clackamas
broadband exchange and Lake Oswego

612
00:49:43,86 --> 00:49:49,47
school district for dark fiber network
and under tourism and Cultural Affairs

613
00:49:49,48 --> 00:49:54,43
approval of amendment number three and
renewal number four to the contract

614
00:49:54,44 --> 00:50:01,43
documents between with border borders parin
no Rander for tourism marketing agency

615
00:50:01,44 --> 00:50:05,85
services and that concludes today's consent
agenda right commissions you want to

616
00:50:05,86 --> 00:50:09,51
remove any of these items or have
them explain to you all right on

617
00:50:09,52 --> 00:50:15,31
a chain of motion I move the consent
agenda second motion made by Commissioner

618
00:50:15,32 --> 00:50:21,32
Bernard second by Commissioner Smith further
discussion right Mary. Commissioner

619
00:50:21,33 --> 00:50:27,45
Bernard I chair Ludlow I passes three
zero the minimum that we need to pass

620
00:50:27,46 --> 00:50:33,02
anything that. So now it's the most
exciting time of the people in our county

621
00:50:33,03 --> 00:50:36,38
administrator gets to explain all the
good works of Clackamas County or

622
00:50:36,39 --> 00:50:41,57
a portion thereof right that's true so you
know I've been working to try to figure

623
00:50:41,58 --> 00:50:46,74
out how to make these more thrilling and
more exciting. And I'm hoping to be able

624
00:50:46,75 --> 00:50:51,32
to put it to music in the area
near future for you but I do have

625
00:50:51,33 --> 00:50:57,92
a couple of items just to share. And
you know as of twelve zero zero one

626
00:50:57,96 --> 00:50:58,87
A.M.

627
00:50:59,66 --> 00:51:05,13
Sunday morning of the city
of Damascus became the.

628
00:51:06,87 --> 00:51:13,12
City formerly known as the Damascus or
the place formally known as Damascus

629
00:51:13,72 --> 00:51:16,88
and of course that has meant
that the county has assumed

630
00:51:16,89 --> 00:51:23,48
a series of responsibilities including the
assimilation of the remaining six city

631
00:51:23,49 --> 00:51:28,91
employees for the city of Damascus
responsibility for the management of what

632
00:51:28,92 --> 00:51:34,80
remains of the city's finances. A larger
share of which after the course of

633
00:51:34,81 --> 00:51:40,27
a year will be returned to the taxpayers
who were once City residents in the city

634
00:51:40,28 --> 00:51:46,83
of Damascus and the acquisition
of assets that belong to the city

635
00:51:46,84 --> 00:51:53,01
including city. Owned Public
Works property as well as

636
00:51:53,02 --> 00:51:59,28
a green space and open space that
belong to the city and also the

637
00:51:59,74 --> 00:52:04,98
basically assuming the stewardship of the
records and technology systems that once

638
00:52:05,24 --> 00:52:10,21
belonged to the city I want to say
that this is a not a sort of a once in

639
00:52:10,22 --> 00:52:15,93
a lifetime experience for us this doesn't
happen very often that you see A and

640
00:52:15,94 --> 00:52:22,58
established city because incorporate
and we've had sixty days to

641
00:52:22,62 --> 00:52:27,17
affect the implementation of it since the
primary vote I'm happy to say that the

642
00:52:27,18 --> 00:52:32,32
process so far has been. Very smooth and
seamless and I'm grateful for the hard

643
00:52:32,33 --> 00:52:38,54
work of all of our staff and county councils
office county administration employee

644
00:52:38,55 --> 00:52:45,52
services technology services
transportation and development. Just

645
00:52:45,53 --> 00:52:48,68
throughout the county government folks
have been able to make this work we are

646
00:52:48,69 --> 00:52:55,29
already receiving mail that the has been
originally delivered to the city hall

647
00:52:55,30 --> 00:53:01,12
offices and we will have an employee from
from the city of Damascus in the county

648
00:53:01,13 --> 00:53:05,84
commissioner's office for the next twelve
months who will actually be able to help

649
00:53:05,85 --> 00:53:12,37
us with that mail in the mail that comes
in and we have been directing folks to who

650
00:53:12,62 --> 00:53:18,58
ordinarily would be calling Damascus city
hall to contact the county offices here

651
00:53:18,59 --> 00:53:23,35
directly to get their answers to the questions
that they may have so I guess I just

652
00:53:23,36 --> 00:53:28,68
want to express my appreciation for the
hard work of our staff and I also want to

653
00:53:28,69 --> 00:53:34,59
welcome the six employees from the city
of Damascus to the county family here.

654
00:53:35,51 --> 00:53:39,54
Reported that the last
item I have you talked

655
00:53:39,55 --> 00:53:45,37
a little bit about this earlier has to
do with the town center courtyards and I

656
00:53:45,38 --> 00:53:51,50
just wanted to thank our health housing and
Human Services Department the community

657
00:53:51,51 --> 00:53:56,21
the development division Behavioral Health
Division the social services division in

658
00:53:56,22 --> 00:54:01,40
the housing authority all worked together
and worked together with you the board

659
00:54:01,69 --> 00:54:05,43
and helping to pull this project together
and I think we all should be really proud

660
00:54:05,44 --> 00:54:09,94
of what's been put together here thank
you thank you and then the second most

661
00:54:09,95 --> 00:54:12,22
exciting time is when the
commissioners get to give

662
00:54:12,23 --> 00:54:15,77
a little talk and so commissioner Smith
is going to start that oh oh thank you Mr

663
00:54:15,78 --> 00:54:16,86
Chair Well I had

664
00:54:16,87 --> 00:54:23,35
a delightful time this Saturday at west
land they had the old time parade and much

665
00:54:23,36 --> 00:54:25,31
activities I had

666
00:54:25,32 --> 00:54:30,31
a very talented driver assist me from our
Department of Transportation and I was

667
00:54:31,12 --> 00:54:37,60
very thankful for that and I was able to
pass out my Tootsie Rolls my. Like candy

668
00:54:37,61 --> 00:54:43,14
that almost bears my name and you know
it's funny the Dulce want those candies

669
00:54:43,63 --> 00:54:48,36
because remember we all grew up with to
this you raised right yeah today I went out

670
00:54:48,37 --> 00:54:52,06
to S. To Kato to listen to the
State of the city and there was

671
00:54:52,07 --> 00:54:57,73
a luncheon hosted by their chamber and
Bennett Johnson is or president the mayor

672
00:54:57,74 --> 00:55:03,28
Brant doggerel spoke about the
accomplishments and I tell you you know

673
00:55:03,29 --> 00:55:04,82
a city about cicadas only

674
00:55:04,83 --> 00:55:10,79
a population of three thousand but they
have done some remarkable work out there in

675
00:55:10,80 --> 00:55:15,16
improving their streets they have one
beautiful street with new sidewalks and

676
00:55:15,43 --> 00:55:20,09
updated the business and and they used
to financing but you know they have

677
00:55:20,10 --> 00:55:25,16
a deal in that wasn't too controversial I
was asking about it and the citizens felt

678
00:55:25,17 --> 00:55:30,22
it was more important to have improved
infrastructure but you know whatever and

679
00:55:30,23 --> 00:55:35,92
this most beautiful street I think I've
seen in Clackamas County seriously. And

680
00:55:35,93 --> 00:55:36,11
it's

681
00:55:36,12 --> 00:55:42,59
a city of best cater and they're working
on expanding and the growth I think of the

682
00:55:42,60 --> 00:55:48,03
mayor said they have two new subdivisions
going in with one hundred forty eight new

683
00:55:48,04 --> 00:55:52,24
homes and uses a cicadas like
the rest of the county is

684
00:55:52,49 --> 00:55:58,76
a real shortage of affordable
housing. You know as to Canada has

685
00:55:58,77 --> 00:56:04,02
a new library out there and what they're
trying to do is find some funding for new

686
00:56:04,03 --> 00:56:08,80
sidewalks that go to the library to the
schools that they hope to serve because the

687
00:56:08,81 --> 00:56:10,60
kids walking on the road out there it's

688
00:56:10,61 --> 00:56:15,95
a country road deep dish is get is no
shoulders so they're kind of working about

689
00:56:15,96 --> 00:56:21,01
that but Don Hi I don't know if this tax
to the cities can help with sidewalks or

690
00:56:21,02 --> 00:56:27,46
not can it yes yes Barbour
says yes so maybe

691
00:56:27,86 --> 00:56:28,33
I'll give him

692
00:56:28,34 --> 00:56:33,60
a call back and say well if the tax passes
and your share of the money you can

693
00:56:33,61 --> 00:56:38,46
build some sidewalks out there and you
need money. Back there because I think the

694
00:56:38,47 --> 00:56:39,23
cities have

695
00:56:39,24 --> 00:56:43,85
a little bit more flexibility than the
county does with because we made certain

696
00:56:43,86 --> 00:56:46,58
promises at the county so
that was fun but it was

697
00:56:46,59 --> 00:56:52,14
a very good crowd of people out there their
economic development has just taken off

698
00:56:52,15 --> 00:56:54,48
like crazy in fact they just hired

699
00:56:54,49 --> 00:56:59,68
a new economic development manager for
that little city out there and I was very

700
00:56:59,69 --> 00:57:06,10
proud of them. And all the accompli shipments
that they've done and that's all I

701
00:57:06,11 --> 00:57:12,54
have Thank you Commissioner Bernard. So
one thing about Damascus I'd love to see

702
00:57:12,55 --> 00:57:17,80
the list of assets we did talk about that
one structure that maybe the search and

703
00:57:17,81 --> 00:57:23,77
rescue group could use along with some
of our quick one story that we sometimes

704
00:57:23,78 --> 00:57:28,88
have to take up to the mountain or gravel
piles and things like that would be very

705
00:57:28,89 --> 00:57:30,73
helpful as to Kate is

706
00:57:30,74 --> 00:57:37,73
a safari club still there yeah is it empty
Yeah. Hundred forty eight new homes out

707
00:57:37,74 --> 00:57:43,62
there I don't know if you watch much remodel
stuff but you know in taxes there's

708
00:57:43,63 --> 00:57:47,46
a lot of affordable Yes. Maizie

709
00:57:50,54 --> 00:57:57,13
No no you probably could. Damascus
still is a place and a place with

710
00:57:57,14 --> 00:58:02,10
a long history I remember the it wasn't the
World's Fair but it might have been the

711
00:58:02,11 --> 00:58:05,27
state fair was out there
when I was a kid and he had

712
00:58:05,28 --> 00:58:12,25
a giant wax candle in senate been
collected. By all the citizens during

713
00:58:12,26 --> 00:58:17,83
the Depression if I remember right I'm
not really sure about that because I was

714
00:58:17,84 --> 00:58:24,64
really little because I barely remember
it but I member going out there

715
00:58:25,19 --> 00:58:31,95
you know the marijuana issue we did promise
that we would sit down and talk about

716
00:58:31,96 --> 00:58:38,60
what is in the ordinance and and I
think could be a good idea to get

717
00:58:38,61 --> 00:58:44,41
a task force back together the fan seen
thing which I mentioned before and we kind

718
00:58:44,42 --> 00:58:49,72
of for God When we got
to that. Invite to take

719
00:58:49,72 --> 00:58:56,65
a look at that and then I thought that and
that some of the property line issues

720
00:58:56,67 --> 00:59:02,75
that only certain sizes of
structures could be within one

721
00:59:03,03 --> 00:59:09,63
property. I know that was an
industrial. Discussion on

722
00:59:09,64 --> 00:59:12,77
industrial but something
that we need to look at

723
00:59:12,81 --> 00:59:19,64
a little bit I know that you have you
is almost totally out of our hands and

724
00:59:19,74 --> 00:59:23,28
some of the risk I guess you
know I had an obscene talk to

725
00:59:23,29 --> 00:59:29,38
a business you city yesterday and they
were telling me that you know in the

726
00:59:29,42 --> 00:59:35,44
industrial area that average marijuana row
or you know forty thousand square foot

727
00:59:35,50 --> 00:59:40,05
building has forty employees
and all of them make

728
00:59:40,09 --> 00:59:44,84
a minimum of fifteen dollars an hour and
there and that's now that's before the

729
00:59:44,85 --> 00:59:51,77
minimum wage increase so
it's hard to say no and. It

730
00:59:51,78 --> 00:59:57,06
is of concern to me and you know also there
are been marijuana people growers and

731
00:59:57,07 --> 01:00:02,04
have reached out and said they have issues
and I haven't dreamed find out what

732
01:00:02,05 --> 01:00:08,85
those are but I don't know what they
are I know one one is the you know me

733
01:00:08,86 --> 01:00:15,75
if you one of the marijuana growers has
to spend all this money to produce so

734
01:00:15,76 --> 01:00:18,60
many decibels and their neighbor has

735
01:00:18,61 --> 01:00:24,93
a well that when they started up it's
site four hundred decibels and I

736
01:00:25,51 --> 01:00:31,91
it's really loud it runs all day long
when they're watering their fields so

737
01:00:32,29 --> 01:00:37,94
it's kind of funny you know that that's
something we might I want to talk about is

738
01:00:38,33 --> 01:00:41,67
is when you're out any a
few and your neighbors are

739
01:00:41,68 --> 01:00:47,15
a long ways away we certainly
can't regulate the farmer.

740
01:00:49,51 --> 01:00:56,18
But you know it seems. Pretty
inconsistent at the same time to require

741
01:00:56,23 --> 01:01:03,09
hundreds of thousands of dollars put in.
Noise suppression when the neighbor

742
01:01:03,27 --> 01:01:03,65
has

743
01:01:03,66 --> 01:01:10,61
a huge well that pumps all day long but
you know I also I live on our earth that

744
01:01:10,62 --> 01:01:16,53
five and and I on the way all my want one
of those packets because all drive by

745
01:01:16,54 --> 01:01:20,82
that big marijuana grow that's been but
it and I drive that road every day and I

746
01:01:20,83 --> 01:01:25,47
have noticed it so I I guess I got to
pay attention but with an address I can

747
01:01:25,48 --> 01:01:28,87
located and some one of my
neighbors said there was

748
01:01:28,88 --> 01:01:35,30
a big marijuana grow. So it's been you
know fifteen years ago on the gas

749
01:01:35,31 --> 01:01:41,65
tax. We started talking about how
to fund road maintenance at C four

750
01:01:42,20 --> 01:01:46,58
and. We worked really hard on on

751
01:01:46,62 --> 01:01:52,27
a vehicle registration fee at the time we
could have just an active gas tax but the

752
01:01:52,28 --> 01:01:58,97
legislature changed that.
And so we we had an

753
01:01:58,98 --> 01:02:04,85
opportunity one time to have done something
and that commission at the time and I

754
01:02:04,86 --> 01:02:10,98
wasn't here so I don't remember that
much about it was not really active in

755
01:02:10,99 --> 01:02:17,87
supporting that tax. And I think this
commission has committed to reaching

756
01:02:17,88 --> 01:02:22,98
out to the community make sure that they
understand the value of this gas tax and

757
01:02:23,06 --> 01:02:29,93
and what it could save future generations
in road maintenance so I look forward to

758
01:02:29,94 --> 01:02:36,71
that discussion and one other
thing we have to look at. Ajo

759
01:02:36,72 --> 01:02:42,86
Sunnybrook and Sunnyside yesterday
in the center of things are

760
01:02:42,90 --> 01:02:46,51
a mess I don't know how we're going
to resolve that because it's

761
01:02:46,52 --> 01:02:51,69
a life threatening if you're out there
pulling the weeds but there's got to be some

762
01:02:51,70 --> 01:02:56,69
way we can address at the trees are
great and there they really make

763
01:02:56,70 --> 01:03:02,03
a great but controlling those weeds which
in some cases are almost as big as the

764
01:03:02,04 --> 01:03:04,16
trees there's got to be

765
01:03:04,17 --> 01:03:09,48
a solution just not going to the wheat
weeds down does not solve the problem they

766
01:03:09,49 --> 01:03:16,35
come back believe me I've been doing that
for two years in my ranch and so we've

767
01:03:16,36 --> 01:03:22,40
got to look at some way to fund or manage
that process and I know I did drive.

768
01:03:23,81 --> 01:03:24,94
You know Hope new O.T.

769
01:03:24,95 --> 01:03:30,91
Church and they were actually working in
the center of the roadway but boy out-I It

770
01:03:30,92 --> 01:03:36,10
was scary look and I wouldn't want to be
out there pulling weeds who are doing what

771
01:03:36,11 --> 01:03:40,17
they need to do but there's got to be
a way to keep that down it might be

772
01:03:40,18 --> 01:03:45,60
a chemical but first they got to get rid
of the weeds and then they've got to treat

773
01:03:45,61 --> 01:03:51,96
it or cover it was something to prevent
we growth and that's all I have no you

774
01:03:51,97 --> 01:03:58,87
don't look at me funny you oh look in front
of me word that dog. Thank you Mary.

775
01:04:00,79 --> 01:04:05,30
Missy is dreaming of a new home she is

776
01:04:05,31 --> 01:04:12,05
a little shy right now as this lovely
shelter as this lovely shelter

777
01:04:12,18 --> 01:04:16,09
just isn't the same as home once
she's goes out five side for

778
01:04:16,10 --> 01:04:21,10
a walk she becomes much more animated
playing with balls and is something and

779
01:04:21,11 --> 01:04:25,63
sometimes she really likes to do
that she knows how to walk on

780
01:04:25,64 --> 01:04:32,02
a leash and seems to be polite around other
dogs once you meet her her sweet nature

781
01:04:32,03 --> 01:04:38,14
when your heart and she'll be yours forever
for more information Missy and other

782
01:04:38,15 --> 01:04:43,54
adorable dogs please contact Clackamas
County dog services at five zero three six

783
01:04:43,55 --> 01:04:48,81
five five eighty six twenty eight or visit
them on the Web It W W W dot Clackamas

784
01:04:48,82 --> 01:04:53,96
dot us forward slash
dogs thank you thank you

785
01:04:55,31 --> 01:05:00,50
a moment of silence right now that's
fifty decibels without me saying

786
01:05:00,51 --> 01:05:06,27
a word so fifty decibels is really pretty
quiet and I appreciate the country but

787
01:05:06,28 --> 01:05:10,10
the wind out there right now is producing
more than fifty decibels just mention

788
01:05:10,11 --> 01:05:16,79
them. You know we had an employee
recognition luncheon this week

789
01:05:17,21 --> 01:05:21,78
and we we have this of recorder is
really great to see the longevity of our

790
01:05:21,79 --> 01:05:26,06
employees here at Clackamas County they
come here they work your they like it here

791
01:05:26,07 --> 01:05:30,80
and they stay here until the retirement
mass masses of people that work you're

792
01:05:30,81 --> 01:05:35,60
twenty twenty five thirty and even thirty
five years so kudos to our employees for

793
01:05:35,61 --> 01:05:37,22
finding out the Clackamas County is

794
01:05:37,23 --> 01:05:42,34
a great place to work live in play but
especially the work part we have outstanding

795
01:05:42,35 --> 01:05:47,65
employees and the turnaround we've talked
about before the next five years I think

796
01:05:47,66 --> 01:05:52,36
some forty five percent of our people become
eligible for retirement so there will

797
01:05:52,37 --> 01:05:55,21
be some changes so if you know
somebody who wants a great job with

798
01:05:55,22 --> 01:05:59,72
a great organization please turn him on
to our Web site and they can find some

799
01:05:59,73 --> 01:06:06,40
great jobs there I also went to the old
town old the Westland old time fair

800
01:06:06,67 --> 01:06:08,63
for a day. I had

801
01:06:08,67 --> 01:06:13,30
a little funky golf cart that I usually
drive around and I had two buckets of candy

802
01:06:14,01 --> 01:06:18,86
while I was away to Smith and her driver
came in raided the tootsie rolls out of my

803
01:06:18,87 --> 01:06:23,17
five gallon buckets and he didn't see
that those little shorties I had the long

804
01:06:23,18 --> 01:06:28,44
ones and man she went through my bucket
the gun most all of these people said you

805
01:06:28,45 --> 01:06:32,06
call the police. And I would have been

806
01:06:32,07 --> 01:06:38,65
a sight wouldn't. You know I am went
to Jay PAC This morning the joint

807
01:06:39,05 --> 01:06:44,07
Policy Advisory Committee on Transportation
this is this is organized by metro and

808
01:06:44,08 --> 01:06:48,27
a lot of city representatives there and
the subject at hand was the Southwest

809
01:06:48,28 --> 01:06:52,62
corridor now we all remember the orange
line and you know some people would say

810
01:06:52,63 --> 01:06:54,71
that was a tremendous
success but it displaced

811
01:06:54,80 --> 01:07:01,69
a ton of businesses cost an orderly large
amount of money and obligated our Federal

812
01:07:02,36 --> 01:07:09,06
Gas flex funds for many many years. I
told Metro what I'm going to tell you

813
01:07:09,10 --> 01:07:13,64
is that in Clackamas County every two years
we surveyed people to see what their

814
01:07:13,65 --> 01:07:19,57
concerns are what their top reasons are to
be concerned and for years and years and

815
01:07:19,58 --> 01:07:24,41
years it was always public safety this year
congestion rose to the top and there's

816
01:07:24,42 --> 01:07:30,36
a reason for that it's worse and worse and
worse exponentially every six months it

817
01:07:30,37 --> 01:07:35,19
changes you know we all know the bottleneck
of I tool five thirty seven mile

818
01:07:35,20 --> 01:07:40,48
freeway and five point nine miles is two
lanes in each direction that's us and it's

819
01:07:40,49 --> 01:07:45,21
been ignored by metro and think goodness
our federal delegation got in on the high

820
01:07:45,22 --> 01:07:49,65
priority list but they didn't include the
funding so when they got the vote on the

821
01:07:49,66 --> 01:07:55,33
southwest corridor I on behalf of the
commission voted no two point five billion

822
01:07:55,34 --> 01:07:58,78
dollars I say again there are four main
choke points in the port image balled there

823
01:07:58,79 --> 01:08:00,12
they are two seventeen to

824
01:08:00,13 --> 01:08:03,78
a five the Rose Quarter and the Boone
bridge if you've ever driven south through

825
01:08:03,79 --> 01:08:06,76
Wilsonville it's abysmal
and nobody's doing

826
01:08:06,80 --> 01:08:12,05
a darn thing about fixing those problems
but lip service now from the federal

827
01:08:12,06 --> 01:08:17,39
government from local and state funds
will come two point five billion to build

828
01:08:17,40 --> 01:08:21,91
another light rail and I appreciate that
inflection fluctuates from sniping to

829
01:08:21,92 --> 01:08:26,45
eleven twelve percent of people that use
this line but they're heavily heavily

830
01:08:26,46 --> 01:08:32,06
subsidized as an example west line that
runs to Wilsonville for every writer we

831
01:08:32,07 --> 01:08:37,60
subsidize twelve bucks that trip is cheap
for the writer but it's not cheap for us

832
01:08:38,17 --> 01:08:41,59
so it's Prada vote against that and let
them know that they need to change their

833
01:08:41,60 --> 01:08:47,27
ways will Metro change their ways likely
not but I'll be glad to be the lone voice

834
01:08:47,28 --> 01:08:50,63
in the wilderness to remind them that we
have particular needs here in Clackamas

835
01:08:50,64 --> 01:08:57,61
County and frankly they're being ignored.
The I have some information on the next

836
01:08:57,62 --> 01:09:02,97
town hall Clinton in Lee and Mary's going
to put that up here. The town hall we

837
01:09:02,98 --> 01:09:03,92
decided to have

838
01:09:03,93 --> 01:09:08,00
a theme in these next two town hall halls
the only ones we're doing this calendar

839
01:09:08,01 --> 01:09:13,83
year will be on fuel tax marijuana tax
set for August third at West Linn high

840
01:09:13,84 --> 01:09:17,01
school now with the marijuana tax is

841
01:09:17,02 --> 01:09:20,80
a prudent thing to do we're not sure of
the total revenue will get from that but

842
01:09:20,81 --> 01:09:27,59
three percent would be used we're proposing
for public safety code enforcement law

843
01:09:27,60 --> 01:09:33,49
enforcement and also for health needs that
may arise out of the usage of marijuana

844
01:09:33,50 --> 01:09:39,45
in our county will hold that town hall at
the West Linn high school starting at six

845
01:09:39,46 --> 01:09:39,88
P.M.

846
01:09:39,89 --> 01:09:44,40
On Aug third the public is welcome in the
courage to attend this event is not pretty

847
01:09:44,41 --> 01:09:47,18
for all county residents to take
holders ask questions directly of the

848
01:09:47,19 --> 01:09:50,97
commissioners discussion will focus on
the two ballot measures proposed by the

849
01:09:50,98 --> 01:09:56,84
Commission for the November election fuel
tax and marijuana taxes cued me I have

850
01:09:56,85 --> 01:10:01,78
asked especially after the open Grove one
of the town hall that Mr Crump be there

851
01:10:01,79 --> 01:10:02,84
because there is

852
01:10:02,85 --> 01:10:06,11
a great deal of information of course of
the commissioners have because we've been

853
01:10:06,44 --> 01:10:11,44
informed regularly on these two issues
however there's nothing like having our top

854
01:10:11,45 --> 01:10:15,46
professional there with the information
in hand salute can answer people's

855
01:10:15,47 --> 01:10:20,61
questions on the spot announce not say
we'll get back to you so I think we've put

856
01:10:20,62 --> 01:10:25,16
you on notice right now and you're going
to be there for us but prescience that So

857
01:10:25,17 --> 01:10:28,09
ladies and gentlemen I appreciate
you this is a lot of people for

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a Thursday night and they stuck with us
thanks for doing that there being no for

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their visit for the Clackamas County
Commission this day this meeting is adjourned

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. We'll.