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I'd like to. Call again
to order tonight. And

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before we do can we have that roll call
place. Direct later or. Break our.

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Director way here Richard was
there and director you heard it.

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First of all I want to welcome you all here
I'm sure many of you this was not your

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intended a place to be on

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a. Thursday night but we really appreciate
you coming tonight and we are going to

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welcome your comments as I know many of you
have concerns and it rings tonight. So

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that will be in the president's
statement and in just

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a few more minutes what I'll talk about the
process you know so the thing I'd like

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to do right now if any of you have comments
on issues that are not on the agenda.

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It's become for it have to be not on you
can anybody want to speak to I am not on

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the agenda I guess not procedure
issue for those who wish

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to speak. I am requesting that you all who
want to speak is that kind of blue eat

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green sheet of paper right there it is
really really important to have you feel

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that out prior to speaking so both we can
acknowledge you and also that that we

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could call you in

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a war that this folks have
come up. OK I've heard

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nothing on or

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a comment about not on the agenda and we
have two public hearings tonight. One of

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the most to be here tonight is review min
PA one action concerning MOTOS your water

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connection the payment program so what
I'd like to do tonight is we're going to

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have

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a staff presentation led by Clemens it
will take approximately thirty minutes and

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they're going to he's going to explain I
think hopefully will answer some of the

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question that been raised by many of you
on the period the news that you have used

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once Clemens and the staff have done their
presentation I would like to bring it

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back to the board the separate procedure
for public comment we wish all of you need

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to participate that you
wish but I want to do it in

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a way that allows that kind of an orderly
process so everyone can be heard so we're

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bringing back to the morgue for the procedure
process once that's been established

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and we'll have comments from you all as
long as many as you wish and that will be

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bring back the discussion back to the
players so with that in mind I'd like to

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introduce Clemens to my left and have
them take over the discussion before it's

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gone right by us. Which
is what you when you made

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a major clubs. When you can make that
your comments if you like leave your name

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and phone number or contact information
if you like so they can contact you

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individually. Later on so. Yes And we'll

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look and we will reiterate
that at the time of

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a public option as well thanks
to OK it was. The line.

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My first day. It's

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a risk for the. Now I

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first I'm going to make

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a presentation about the. Multi-year
water connection the payment program

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hopefully answer many questions that are
out there and. Alexander says here with us

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from our own wealth is our financial
solvency help us. Come up with this proposal

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all this stuff right I mean on the one we
have the white Prius with the lights on

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so I just want to have one OK thank you

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very first line this is really what
we're going over. So the first

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first thing that really did do. You
know did you see that he was like

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All right so the first the first
thing that we would. Be OK by all

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right is that how much. Is that better
nominee or OK Perfect All right

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sauce first of all let's go over brief
history of how we ended up here I

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know many in this room probably dispensed
entire night talking about what happened

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here before we try to keep it very short
very brief and focused on this policy

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so early in the eight
nine hundred eighty S.

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Around nineteen eighty two ish it became
very evident that the citizens utilities

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that's

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a private suite owned the tele the company
that managed the water system here owned

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and managed

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a water system. Was not able to provide
enough water for the residents in long term

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loss each. There was solid voluntary on all
situation of Mar tar and they had some

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tumble out calls going on sometimes not
in one nine hundred eighty six this was

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almost all by how it went to Public
Utility Commission that's the agency that

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regulates product delivery companies
they came down and Citizens Utility them

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mandated

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a moratorium on connections and that
is really the beginning of the story.

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Nothing changed over many many
decades years and really decades

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citizens was sold. To Cal
American tell America it was sold

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to the American Water. And
then it was sold to our W E

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saw

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a change in ownership is no improvements
were made on for over the decade and

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until the district acquired the
system in two thousand and and three.

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In two thousand and three of course the
situation was the same and nothing would

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change the system was in dire need for
repairs banks were still running dry not

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enough water in this community so the
moratorium was continued until such time

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so the community was able to secure new
sources was able to resolve the water

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crisis and. That's really what
this district focused on in

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the years two thousand and three through
two thousand and. Ten in two thousand and

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eleven we actually produced

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a master plan update that really showed
that we can start thinking about repeal of

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the mark Torey. Before that in two
thousand and nine. The California Coastal

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Commission really regulated our ability to
make connections to the water system saw

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in two thousand and nine we went to the
California Coastal Commission with what is

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called the Public Works plan that
allows us and allows us to make the

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necessary infrastructure improvements
to the water system if it's done. It's

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a essentially a large permit for

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a plant in the sense of
the development plan so.

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In two thousand and nine in the Public Works
plan there was language introduced to

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maintain

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a moratorium so now we're under posters
that just in the Coastal Commission solve

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them are part of one service committee
connections. In twenty thirteen we're able

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to plug in twenty eleven we understood our
water situation and it took two years to

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negotiate with the commission how
connections to the district Army and

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how this essentially this
water is the need up.

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So so this is really the documents the
Public Works fine Coastal Commission talking

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together with the local post the problem
also Coastal Commission document but not

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negotiated between the district and the
Coastal Commission the local post program

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a document that was negotiated between the
county and the Coastal Commission so let's

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stay with the Public Works line main
document for for us what to do.

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So here are two basic conditions that are
you telling us how we can how can we

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shoot connections and this is the force
now focused on well conversion so

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if essentially tells us that existing
power well as the new homes within the

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urban rural boundary are eligible for
domestic and product fire protection

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connections to the Montero water
system we also there's also another.

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One that tells us that existing homes sir
are well off and move homes outside urban

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rural boundary are eligible for fire
protection connections as gone this district

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mainline does not need to be extended so
this I think is very valuable information

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that begs for example the areas
and sunshine road Alamo. Grants

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three alchemists So there's

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a number of homes that are actually able
to connect to the district for fire

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protection services. But not
for the mystics. Here's

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a picture of the old three and been
commissioned So this is all the fine now in the

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L C P Public Works plan and also
the. Documents are working together

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L.C.P.

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Of course was established much earlier the
Public Works fine was and was designed

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to stop tail right into that I'll
see if we have that picture also as

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a poster Here's hoping anyone who is in
doubt on where they are located and look

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this up and we can you know you're also
discussion about this sometimes it's

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a little difficult to see
on the. We can assist with

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so why are we going out and are designing
for asking the board to adopt the

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multimedia water feed connection
or what's our right. So

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we would like to assist well on years you
can make team to the munch our water

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and sanitary district if they're
interested to do so. And hear

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a little bit more on the regulation
so we have actually. Written Lucian

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number fourteen ninety eight that what
this really does the House Administration

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that applications for weapons conversations
are coming from San Mateo County.

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Planning though. So we are
processing this essentially would

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issue connections only conjunction with
county building permits I think this is

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something very important because there's
this question about voluntary or mandatory

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a policy that tells you that ministration
only make sure that our. That

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are asked for in conjunction with the county
building permit are essentially coming

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to our profit so what time it
is not our objective of the

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connection to be probed and associated
orders to be wired from personal wealth

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now and now we're again we're looking
now at that document all C.P.

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I'll see Pete

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a document that he's regulating on county
level our connections are in shoot not

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just hope I'll see that he states
that only models rated greater than

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fifty percent are required to connect
to the public water system so this is

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a policy that the district. Administers
but it isn't how to policy

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not

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a dispute. So what the
policy piece says is that

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if someone really wants their home and the
town of the home not the square footage

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but the actual dollar value of the home
increases by fifty percent and that

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property is served by private well
and that well it's inside urban

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rule boundary then that probably half to
connect at the time of that remodel to the

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public water system so that it's
the only case where someone is

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essentially where it is

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a mandated connection and again
this is how to level not just

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OK so. We're getting back to why are
we doing on we're doing this because

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well known or simply have told us they're
interested in the funny thing but it's

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pretty but if we spent. There
are very clear reasons

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on the. For example draw down underground
aquifers that underlie district service

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area now this is

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a very general statement and I think there
is. A long word to say about the area

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in which we live this is the only
town in California only town

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that we know of in the
United States that has

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a high density of private
wealth in the urban area and.

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We understand that

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a lot of well owners are not necessarily

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directly. Say OK so that it is very it's

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a the underground city is very
complicated and now I'd say it is

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generally little understood that
Wells actually hands pose danger

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to the underlying aquifer even though the
water quality might be strong the goods

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there are there is no drop issues
whatsoever. There is some very good

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reasons why. Why essentially
there is an effort to

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reduce the number of well and for example

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one of the things that is
really never considered is

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a wellness pathway so it takes
one accident. And you actually

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power on to mediation not only in your well
also neighbor world neighborhood wells

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and so these are things that we've seen
that we've seen water quality issues we've

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seen condemnation issues and we see
welfare fraud. So it is actually

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for us great relief that we were able to
issue connections and twenty thirteen.

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There were some well owners were absolutely
dire and we had to the news media.

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Yes thank you so so this is pretty
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below that you know welcome versus improve
the disability not to monitor medicine

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overall water supply for
its customers this is

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a very complex subject. And you've heard
me talk about the California coast

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commission policy the local Coast
program the county policy. We're

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working closely together with both
agencies and their strong almost

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a proponent proponent all conversion
of problem. At Sears just

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salt Let's talk a little bit
into the small so you are

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a connection program and Alex
is actually going to produce

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a little more in detail. I'm going to just
outline the general provisions here so

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financing is available to assist in
homes. Currently rely on well within the

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district service area. It's pretty
clear anyone on the well in

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in the district service area actually
can utilize the financing if conditions

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apply for them. The cost

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a little for financing are all of these
that are to be paid to the districts part

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of the water service connection process
I've seen many questions come in why can't

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you finance you know the well abandoned
hospital well abandonment we go

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a little bit into that. Short
time but we are suggesting that

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the fees that are to be paid to
the districts are part of this.

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Program. The other the other costs
associated fees need to be paid to other

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agencies so might be an idea to ask the
agencies if they're willing to provide

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a similar. So. We are jesting to allow
homeowners to pay the connection

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fee and other social costs and that over

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a maximum of ten years and that is through
the property tax bill I just want to say

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that you have to talk to your tax advisor
on what this does for you and if this

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isn't providentially mantic but I'm certain
that for most folks this turns into

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a real financial advantage
collection probably tacked on

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so. What is the connection the
this is very politically Alex Goen

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a little more into detail on this this
is the cost to buy into the district

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existing system and invest in future supply
I love it reliability what is important

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to understand is that new customers
great additional demand and must buy

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into the reliability of the system
so that's really the new demand.

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Meaning new capacity in tanks
that is now require new capacity

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pipelines to transport the water and so
it's also important to understand this

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connection charges are restricted Ponce
we can only use those were happening

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prudence. So we have to account
for them separately so

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what are the fee that we're actually
talking about that can be rolled into this

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program is administrative fee that's
someplace be profiting off the new water

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service obligation and that is based
on work hours and salary of our

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style. Engineering deposits.
That's is to cover the

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costs for our water engineers review
the plan review their sleeves

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situation. Review plan and
and assist in other ways

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now this is

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a positive so any unused funds can
be returned for keep that in mind

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these numbers can change
inspection is essentially our our

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operation stuff going out taking

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a look at the insulation on signing
off on it also based on work hours

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saw. Service charges we
know of. Out of the service

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charges for the

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a follow up questions coming about this
this is really the construction costs this

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is some estimates. This Is Us
consensually saying we see service

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lines go in and. That lead to depends on
the location of the main location of the

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house along with the actually
lateral installation. And it also

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includes the actual meter insulation so
this is us tapping into the main line

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running a service line
to a hollow and placing

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a meter at the property
line. So this cost varies

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significantly from case
to case and was important

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also it is so we are allowing the financing
of this cost because ultimately the

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district is going to own and maintain
that section of the service line

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the section from the meter to the house
is owned and maintained by the property

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owner and that is why we ask that
this be financed separately.

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Now in our experience that is not

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a significant additional cost
when we're talking probably about

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a thousand dollars plus some
of relevance for sure but

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a lot of people simply use the contractor
that's already out there ask them to

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extend the trench and ask

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a plumber to said she could see the house
so there's no cost saving way we think

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this is that we are asking for
quotes from three local contractors

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and we choose the Senshi the
lowest quote in some cases.

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Developer ask for a specific
contractor. It has to be

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a district certified contractor It's not
difficult to get certified with us that

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means that we have to have insurance on
file and that the contractor has to have

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experience working on water and.
So this is something we were

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you know we think there can be

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a lot of. If you're smart you
can actually get some. Cheap

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up fairly cheaply OK so here we dive

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into cost system and. I can't
emphasize enough that you know the

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cost really varies from from
situation to situation. Out here.

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Cost estimate up

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a fairly good cost estimate. And the
associated costs are really starts with the

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connection the connection fee for

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a five day three quarter meter that
some needed it serves. Two bathrooms.

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Home standard home in the district
costs currently fifteen thousand

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seven hundred twenty nine dollars. So
the. Other feat that we just went through

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that admin the engineering the
positive inspection runs up to

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a total of three thousand five hundred
eighty four the largest Some break up almost

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three thousand dollars is

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a deposit and can be returned. It really
depends on how much you know how much

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we need to utilize the district engineer
to review and coordinate and then there is

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an estimate that I just express Cripe and
that's the installation meter costs so we

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estimate right now four thousand dollars
this can go up this can put down so this

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would be. For

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a domestic service connection I total cost
of twenty three thousand three hundred

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thirteen dollars that would be this is going
to cost estimate that will be eligible

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to be financed through the program. Now

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we of course there is homes that are need
for domestic and Fire Protection Service

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. Now that is marginally more
expensive there's some significant

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cost savings if it's

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a first time in relation so whenever
it's possible we actually put

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a larger size lateral of service
line in that allows us to

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tap into for both that
the message and the P.P.

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Demand. And so that is the
increase in cost really just to

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increase the amount of copper does so it's
really minimal. There is an additional

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fee an additional connection fee for the
fire protection service and that is right

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now for I think that's a three
quarter inch meter also

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a good sized mirror. That serves most homes
that cost three thousand five hundred

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eighty four dollars. I want
to point out that there

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are. Some wells that have already

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a far spring put connection and could connect
now could could convert to the system

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and we're going to assess each cent of that
situation individually with the help of

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our engineer but I want to. Is actually
pretty cocky about that in most

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cases we would not be able to use the fire
sprinkler line to tap into the domestic

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service simply because the fire sprinkler
line is the sign for exclusively fire law

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and any additional demand would interfere
with the fire flow so you wouldn't pass

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a fire filled test that's
required from the fire department

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OK so here we have now

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a cost estimate for the cock up
for the combination of domestic

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and the private car protection
system. And there we show

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a total cost that is eligible for financing
now off thirty thousand dollars.

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So here isn't very interesting aspect
also and that is that the program as it's

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designed allows owners
to apply for participant

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a service outside urban rural boundary.
Allow that as well and I mentioned that

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before there is there is other programs
that well owners can benefit from that

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are outside the urban rural boundary and
cannot connect to the system to put up for

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domestic water. Instead look at what
the program that we have actually

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placed in the water quality sampling
program and what that does that sensually

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allows you to contact us have open discussion
about your concerns you can do the

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same thing of course with the cemetery
County Health Department. But we offer this

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as well what we additionally
offer is. Water sampling.

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We would S.N.G.

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Go up take samples on your well
on. Inside your house. And

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then we would use our lab to. For the
water quality analysis and we're getting

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a discount so you can essentially benefit
from that discount and expertise that we

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can provide you on the results
call we'll handle it over.

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OK so here we have been asked
to manage off all only

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a fire protection service throughout out
so that that would be one of the scenarios

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say and sometimes. The
main line is existing and

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a fire protection system can be
added to a house that is served by

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a well and we see that that cause so that
is also eligible for our clients who are

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on the program that causes twelve hours.

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I'd like to ask questions actually addressed
afterwards. So please please write it

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down we can get back to the
slide so now the financing

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provisions are also explained by Alex in

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a second here but for agreements executed
by owners on our Ask the general night

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seems to me that. From essentially
today if it's adopted through

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December thirty one twenty six seventeen
there will be no interest charge. And the

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board has indicated that
they would. Would consider

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a two percent interest
rate generally one twenty.

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Saw Now let's go back.
There's of course another.

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Complication in this and that is some
wells have to be abandoned and I think

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there's also

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a lot of unclarity going on what is
the what are the rules in our area so

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there is a provision in the L.C.P.

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The local Coast the problem again
is a Senate County talking not

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a Montero water and Senator

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a document. That essentially says
that well the permanent vote for

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that is actually the temper twelve not
December it's September twelfth nine hundred

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eighty nine is the exact date. Well
permanent before that date our grandfather

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and they're not required
to be kept now we have

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a we have to appear to the State Water
code the State Water hotel said for this

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case we have to ask for

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a backflow preventer added to the
domestic service line. That that's

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probably

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a good six hundred dollars to the
project well permitted after the

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stage September twelfth nine hundred
eighty nine must be abandoned upon

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connection to a public
water system again this is

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a seventy zero County telling us the
cost for well Ben a man I've heard

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a lot of questions about. And
we explained that we were

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trying to proffer

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a financing program for the cost that
we control. The well abandonment

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is

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a cost that the sensually the fees are
going to the county. And other fees are

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going to contractors that are essentially
doing the benefit that are pouring the

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concrete into the well. County
staff tells us that these cost can

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be significant they say that it can be in
the three thousand dollars range we know

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there's a fee that is almost

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a thousand dollars that goes to the county.
And I've heard from well owners that

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the actual abandon the costs are higher
or can be higher than three thousand

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dollars so I've heard four thousand
five thousand dollars members.

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OK so. There has been you know.

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Big debate going on in past weeks about
what is actually happening here and we want

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to make it clear that this is really

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a first step on how to help well on is
to connect to the public water system

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and so we are asking sensually ourselves
and and you asked well how can the

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district increase the voluntary transition
and two points that worse that we see

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here is essentially a fee structure
assessment we also see that L.C.P.

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In public works and Public Works
plan policies can be reviewed and

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potentially we can work
through county commission so

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that concludes my presentation and
I'm actually going to ask Alex to.

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Continue with his presentation governmental
bit more into the details of the

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program just bear with me

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a minute I have to switch presentation
in my presentation is going to be

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a big story that is more highlighting
what is. To be discussed by the board you

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consider the actual finance program itself

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. OK. If you do that so
don't talk about the

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fee program with. What it entails for
the specific sorry some examples with

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payments to look like and also because I
know they're in this process it's raised

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other issues with actually these sort of
things and the explanation of how the

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districts connection fees and how they
were derived from that slide. This is

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already been heard of by Clemens really the
whole point of this program I think was

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a desire by the district to be responsive
to post in the community who wanted to

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connect to the district water system with
private wells but found the financial

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burden a little bit too high and had
recommended if there was some kind of keeping

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a program they could spread it over

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a number of years it might facilitate the
process so that's the whole point of this

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is that the district want to be responsive
to folks who brought that up and make

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a program available for
folks that might make it

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a little more affordable to do this by
spreading the fees over time on the next

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slide is just describe the program
as Clemens mentioned the this is

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a financing program that the districts
essentially going to give free were

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extremely low cost financing to well owners
to allow them to fund the district's

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cost of connecting connecting to the district
for full service or just for private

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fire service. All because that
are. That people have to pay to

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the districts are eligible for inclusion
in this program and the only things that

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are not covered earth are asked to be

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a separate mainline extension or someone
has to pay well abandoned because that's

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kind of outside this church purview that's
not covered by this but so this is the

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district really trying to make it
easier for folks to to pay the cost for

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connecting them into the new switching their
well service over this street service

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and we looked at a bunch of
different options is going back

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a while and the district agreed that they
would allow term of repayment up to ten

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years individuals could take turns less and
then if they wish very flexible of the

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interest rate is two
percent which can cause

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a low interest rate or not looking to gal
genuine on this but this is the district

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lending fund to someone essentially at cost
however to encourage people to do this

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the district is waiving any interest for
the full ten year period of some of the

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size for folks who wish to use this program
and get it initiated by the end of this

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year. You don't have to finance everything
some folks they want to put some money

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down upfront and finance the rest of your
project they're welcome to do that and

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the program is flexible that you can pay
it off at any time without penalty so it's

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really meant to be user friendly to give
people the option to use this if it helps

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the way the programs are financing works
funds or imagine these recollected on the

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county tax rolls so if you agree if you had
you know twenty thirty thousand dollars

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bond instead of paying up front in

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a series of payments over ten years you
pay with your property taxes and for some

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people that's

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a financial benefit I think technically
you're not supposed to write it off on

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taxes but. I know it's

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a pretty common practice that you
do so there may be but make it seem

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a little less than. However if you
do sell your property or there's

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a title transfer and not
just a title transfer to

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a bank for doing the financing or refinancing
the balance would be due in full for

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example from the proceeds of the sale on
the next line the legal authority to do

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this would have to be researched it ties
into California's health and safety code

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the board has to adopt an
ordinance approving of

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a program for this to go forth and each
year or some regulatory things that have to

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happen with the district filing

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a written report with the clerk noting who
is participating and how much is due in

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the upcoming year also the
district's going to require

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a sign to the Freemans with any person who
wants to participate in this program and

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the whole purpose of this is just to get
it all on paper detailing what the terms

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are for the benefit of all parties
acknowledging what the payment terms are that

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because no prepayment penalty is cetera.
And again this new structure there is

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a on the property tax rolls if you lean
on the property where even if someone was

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to pass away that goes on to their successors
the commitment would stay with the

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property so it's got to be paid paid back
over the long term and there are some

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legal things that have to happen that's
with the person tonight as an ordinance

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that would need to be adopted by the
district to allow this to happen legally is

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that's the whole purpose of the ordinance
that the district put out there for

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consideration. And we want to just give
some examples of what the dollar amounts

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could look like so in the prior
presentation Clements highlighted

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a few different types of simple
connections one is someone connecting for

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a basic service connection without

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a separate prior private hire service
connection again these are cost estimates

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some of these costs are just deposits the
final amounts of determined by the actual

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tying into Tiriel is needed to make the
connections and do the inspections but for

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example connection the total fee works
out to be about twenty three thousand

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dollars so instead of paying that upfront
it's more so instead of paying them

444
00:41:07,60 --> 00:41:10,97
front of someone was to opt for a five
year program they'd be looking at

445
00:41:10,98 --> 00:41:16,50
a cost of about four thousand six hundred
per year if they they took advantage of

446
00:41:16,51 --> 00:41:19,47
it now before there's any financing
or the a little more if there was

447
00:41:19,48 --> 00:41:24,02
a few percentage risk it was spread over
ten years in the about two thousand three

448
00:41:24,03 --> 00:41:28,93
hundred per year for the next ten years
in the property tax rolls or again will

449
00:41:28,94 --> 00:41:31,16
that work if we sort of done with

450
00:41:31,17 --> 00:41:35,45
a two percent interest of something that
didn't take advantage of the the no

451
00:41:35,46 --> 00:41:42,04
interests being offered through
the next slide show the payments

452
00:41:42,05 --> 00:41:46,77
for customer who also has a fire
service connection so it's kind of

453
00:41:46,78 --> 00:41:49,03
a double connection both
for the basic service and

454
00:41:49,04 --> 00:41:53,92
a pilot for private fire service as well
there the total costs are estimated at

455
00:41:53,93 --> 00:41:58,28
about thirty thousand dollars so instead
of paying that up front if you spread it

456
00:41:58,29 --> 00:42:02,64
over ten years obviously you've got three
thousand per year on the property tax

457
00:42:02,65 --> 00:42:07,60
rolls again a little more interesting
and the next slide just highlights

458
00:42:08,12 --> 00:42:13,33
a private fire service connection only which
someone who's outside the urban rural

459
00:42:13,34 --> 00:42:17,23
area might want to just get private fire
service connection costs for doing that

460
00:42:17,70 --> 00:42:21,83
estimated about twelve thousand dollars
instead of paying that up front you could

461
00:42:21,84 --> 00:42:25,56
spread it over ten years in about
twelve inches just to give you

462
00:42:25,57 --> 00:42:31,12
a range of what the cost would look the
last thing I just want to cover was an

463
00:42:31,13 --> 00:42:35,29
action please because I know there's two
that's come out here folks it is. Geo

464
00:42:35,30 --> 00:42:37,19
bonds how come they also have

465
00:42:37,34 --> 00:42:42,68
a connection feedback to the district and
the situation is that Giovanni's funded

466
00:42:42,72 --> 00:42:47,61
the acquisition of the district as well as
some initial essential improvements that

467
00:42:47,62 --> 00:42:53,86
had to be made district to be able to provide
service but they didn't fund all the

468
00:42:53,87 --> 00:42:58,39
improvements that the district needed to
me so the purpose of this connection fee

469
00:42:58,62 --> 00:43:03,78
is really just to recover costs for the
additional water supply reliability and

470
00:43:03,82 --> 00:43:10,01
infrastructure that is needed to serve
growth within the street needed to pay for

471
00:43:10,02 --> 00:43:11,27
a new development with

472
00:43:11,28 --> 00:43:15,12
a goal that new development pays its old
own way and doesn't put any burden on the

473
00:43:15,13 --> 00:43:19,68
rate payers so where does the fee come
from there was announced this done back in

474
00:43:19,69 --> 00:43:20,87
two thousand and eleven

475
00:43:21,30 --> 00:43:26,02
a water system master plan that is engineering
evaluation of the water system and

476
00:43:26,03 --> 00:43:31,12
its capacity is and what improvements would
be needed to service growth and that's

477
00:43:31,13 --> 00:43:37,18
what the capital program was subsequently
developed coming out of that by the

478
00:43:37,19 --> 00:43:40,06
district engineer insult
him and identified

479
00:43:40,07 --> 00:43:46,53
a little almost nine million of capital
improvements that were needed to serve what

480
00:43:46,54 --> 00:43:51,63
was seen as the next chunk of growth
which would be about six hundred plus

481
00:43:52,04 --> 00:43:58,66
connections history so the existing system
again is not adequate Gilan stood on the

482
00:43:58,67 --> 00:44:05,45
fully approved system. So the capital
improvement program and then of my

483
00:44:05,46 --> 00:44:10,38
zero eight point eight million DESERVE IT
hundred twenty one connections there's no

484
00:44:10,40 --> 00:44:14,41
funding of these projects from the Giovanni's
these projects are essentially needed

485
00:44:14,91 --> 00:44:20,02
entirely to serve new development
existing rate payers are paying their own

486
00:44:20,30 --> 00:44:24,30
improvements that need to happen separately
from this so the connection fee was

487
00:44:24,31 --> 00:44:25,13
calculated is

488
00:44:25,15 --> 00:44:30,64
a pretty straightforward math taking cost
of the projects and even. Disserve growth

489
00:44:30,65 --> 00:44:35,23
eight point eight million dividing by the
six hundred twenty one meter equivalents

490
00:44:35,24 --> 00:44:40,17
that those projects were designed to
serve and equaled fourteen thousand one

491
00:44:40,18 --> 00:44:42,22
hundred eighty seven dollars for

492
00:44:42,23 --> 00:44:48,01
a new base size meter connection and the
way it works in the District is the cost

493
00:44:48,02 --> 00:44:52,84
of construction going up over time and
the District's connection fee is also

494
00:44:52,85 --> 00:44:59,49
adjusted annually to be responsive
to the. Two construction

495
00:44:59,50 --> 00:45:01,02
cost inflation there's

496
00:45:01,03 --> 00:45:04,89
a commonly used index out there called
the Engineering News record construction

497
00:45:04,90 --> 00:45:09,55
cost index there's one specifically developed
for the Bay Area so the district's

498
00:45:09,56 --> 00:45:14,20
fees are adjusted anyway to make sure
that these Keeping Up with the cost of

499
00:45:14,21 --> 00:45:19,79
construction is really just construction
inflation adjust and just as an aside all

500
00:45:19,80 --> 00:45:24,28
the district's other fees are also adjusted
annually to make sure they're keeping

501
00:45:24,29 --> 00:45:30,40
up where the money of this connection to
go plummets imagine this is not money that

502
00:45:30,40 --> 00:45:34,84
just goes to the district's pockets
for whatever it wishes it goes into

503
00:45:34,85 --> 00:45:40,18
a separately segregated fon they can only
be used for eligible for objects to help

504
00:45:40,19 --> 00:45:43,78
fund these projects some of the projects
the districts actually have the money for

505
00:45:43,79 --> 00:45:48,49
so it could be reimbursed to the District
other ones have yet to be constructed so

506
00:45:48,50 --> 00:45:50,70
that's the connection fee is

507
00:45:50,71 --> 00:45:56,40
a separate issue and related to this
connection the program just to conclude in

508
00:45:56,45 --> 00:46:00,50
known and again the district is not trying
to do another song and use language to

509
00:46:00,54 --> 00:46:04,98
put out there it's noses but the goal is
not so forth you can actually doesn't want

510
00:46:04,99 --> 00:46:10,56
to and it was soley in the desire of the
district to try to help folks who found

511
00:46:10,57 --> 00:46:17,45
the cost burden high to want to connect and
you know transition from metered in the

512
00:46:17,46 --> 00:46:22,14
wrong private wealth to district service
to label them to do that by me in the

513
00:46:22,15 --> 00:46:25,82
financing a little easy by offering you
know because financing a little was

514
00:46:25,83 --> 00:46:32,66
a minor thing so they could spread it over
ten years and with that I will turn it

515
00:46:32,67 --> 00:46:38,45
down to. OK So just to come
Klute our stock. Presentation

516
00:46:39,21 --> 00:46:43,79
recommendation to the board is open to
the public hearing considered relevant

517
00:46:43,88 --> 00:46:45,74
public testimony closed

518
00:46:45,75 --> 00:46:50,08
a public hearing and then dropped ordinance
of the Montero water center here

519
00:46:50,09 --> 00:46:55,16
District added section five last week want
to work for the long term water Senator

520
00:46:55,17 --> 00:46:59,60
District Code to the conversion I
would want to see the districts

521
00:47:02,38 --> 00:47:08,90
OK. Thank you very much both of
you. Before me open it up top

522
00:47:08,91 --> 00:47:14,30
public comment and I'd like to bring
it to the board for discussion. On.

523
00:47:15,78 --> 00:47:20,99
My recommendation to the board the news
we listen to the public comment number of

524
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:26,51
you that have given me green slips from
what I recall these are if somebody used

525
00:47:26,74 --> 00:47:30,89
wish to comment you know please please
please make sure you fill one of these out

526
00:47:31,32 --> 00:47:38,27
to us. My recommendation is that
we listen to one question that you

527
00:47:38,28 --> 00:47:41,87
might have will know to none I would like
to answer the questions and after all

528
00:47:41,88 --> 00:47:48,74
public comment please so we can listen
to everything and I'd like us to

529
00:47:48,75 --> 00:47:55,61
try to stay within that three to four minutes
per person. And any other suggestion

530
00:47:55,62 --> 00:48:01,23
from the members of the Board Jim.

531
00:48:03,92 --> 00:48:08,31
I want to thank I want to thank you everyone
for coming here this is really good

532
00:48:08,35 --> 00:48:14,86
value. I want to thank everybody for
coming. By you know this is important

533
00:48:15,50 --> 00:48:21,86
for the board to hear your comments this
is our district it's yours and mine is on

534
00:48:21,87 --> 00:48:25,99
the margins of the district so it's really
important to me you're going to sit and

535
00:48:26,00 --> 00:48:32,93
talk and this is crucial. Which is
why I do the large site for everyone

536
00:48:32,94 --> 00:48:38,26
to be here and give us your comments We
really appreciate you coming. To our future

537
00:48:38,27 --> 00:48:43,35
direction could be affected by your comments
and we will be thanks to you we are to

538
00:48:43,36 --> 00:48:49,86
say. Again I want to thank
everyone for coming.

539
00:48:51,10 --> 00:48:53,67
To community took

540
00:48:53,68 --> 00:49:00,37
a. Water system that did not meet
the needs of its existing customers

541
00:49:01,21 --> 00:49:06,17
it did not meet the needs of people living
in the movie because of the dilapidated

542
00:49:06,22 --> 00:49:13,07
fire system on the lemons
noted was. Instrumental

543
00:49:13,12 --> 00:49:19,20
in bringing us to eat twenty sixteen
fire protection system with five hundred

544
00:49:19,21 --> 00:49:24,96
thousand gallon tank pumps and hypes we
no longer have the springs in the streets

545
00:49:25,60 --> 00:49:32,31
from the leaky water pipes
that some of us remember. This

546
00:49:32,32 --> 00:49:38,88
is as has been said is
our effort to. Make this

547
00:49:38,96 --> 00:49:45,03
include everyone in the community
that needs water we have

548
00:49:45,04 --> 00:49:50,99
a very wet year this year but we've had
five years of drought we have had wells

549
00:49:51,00 --> 00:49:56,67
that have come up with oil in them and
have not been serviceable we've had wells

550
00:49:56,68 --> 00:50:03,13
that have gone dry and have not been
serviceable and that was the reason

551
00:50:03,66 --> 00:50:08,73
that it was so important that we bought the
water system because all the people who

552
00:50:08,74 --> 00:50:15,32
were living on houses on wells. That the
county permitted with no backup water

553
00:50:15,33 --> 00:50:22,30
system for at rest your back
that is was at risk. There

554
00:50:22,31 --> 00:50:29,01
are homeownership. Rates as Clements

555
00:50:29,02 --> 00:50:32,25
mentioned at some I started doing

556
00:50:32,26 --> 00:50:38,02
a hand count the county did not keep records
on who had wells for they were located

557
00:50:39,02 --> 00:50:44,83
some of them are as close as ten feet apart
the county did not do any studies on

558
00:50:44,84 --> 00:50:49,41
how close well should be to each other
across property lines so there are

559
00:50:49,42 --> 00:50:55,15
a lot of problems that are there from the
decision on the part of the county to

560
00:50:55,61 --> 00:50:56,75
health and this is

561
00:50:56,76 --> 00:51:03,65
a way to help start that. For community

562
00:51:03,74 --> 00:51:03,93
with

563
00:51:03,94 --> 00:51:09,32
a good public health water system to thank
you for coming in and I hope we can we

564
00:51:09,33 --> 00:51:12,93
probably won't be able to get all your
questions answered tonight but we can have

565
00:51:12,94 --> 00:51:19,93
much more meeting Thank you. So thanks for

566
00:51:19,94 --> 00:51:25,39
time I've talked with a number of you on
next story a few of you out there comes

567
00:51:25,40 --> 00:51:32,26
a sun coffee shop someone to follow. If
we've been talking please come meet me good

568
00:51:32,27 --> 00:51:37,64
chance after afterwards about to put some
things to the neighbors thanks for coming

569
00:51:37,65 --> 00:51:42,85
it's it's great to see the interest to clear
up some of the some of the concerns to

570
00:51:42,86 --> 00:51:48,54
my company and Delta Detroit.

571
00:51:54,38 --> 00:51:56,94
Build its you because there's

572
00:51:56,95 --> 00:52:03,58
a. Big he's on the road

573
00:52:04,37 --> 00:52:04,61
you're

574
00:52:04,62 --> 00:52:11,66
a huge This is the wonders of
technology has passed I have my brain

575
00:52:11,67 --> 00:52:17,86
want to work with I don't think they're
OK But we're going to let me proceed and

576
00:52:17,87 --> 00:52:22,13
then work on it so the first person
I have tonight is Glen Eastman

577
00:52:26,33 --> 00:52:32,67
personal thank you very much for the
recovery patience. Most of my answers of the

578
00:52:32,68 --> 00:52:38,37
day they should but I do have some.
Typically and I'll be happy to

579
00:52:43,25 --> 00:52:46,66
so did you want to did you want to put
that you wanted to have the questions in

580
00:52:46,67 --> 00:52:48,02
public or did you want to do it in

581
00:52:48,03 --> 00:52:53,31
a private. With what we're going to do it
if you can ask the question will not come

582
00:52:53,32 --> 00:52:57,39
down and they go here's a way have all
the questions down through it's all

583
00:52:57,40 --> 00:53:02,58
a public forum we're trying to address on
the one topic for the first person. To

584
00:53:02,59 --> 00:53:08,83
subject our world I want subject to. Fire

585
00:53:09,46 --> 00:53:13,06
so so first question is why that

586
00:53:16,85 --> 00:53:22,40
is so so what I said what I'd like to
like to collect these questions and then

587
00:53:22,41 --> 00:53:22,76
we'll have

588
00:53:22,77 --> 00:53:26,91
a session on trying to answer as many who
can what at the end of the public for OK

589
00:53:26,92 --> 00:53:33,82
So please proceed yes OK I
was always. A When I was an

590
00:53:33,93 --> 00:53:38,53
expert to determine whether
I'm inside or outside of

591
00:53:38,54 --> 00:53:44,19
a world wide maps My
assumption is cultural outside

592
00:53:45,72 --> 00:53:51,82
but I may not be. Heard worse

593
00:53:52,69 --> 00:53:58,81
unclear about connection to
the house itself and is now.

594
00:54:00,21 --> 00:54:01,10
Twenty three.

595
00:54:08,95 --> 00:54:15,50
Or four question is is are you well I
was prohibited. From new construction

596
00:54:16,31 --> 00:54:22,90
where there was this trip wire OK And like
I said looks like it's questions and we

597
00:54:22,91 --> 00:54:23,57
hope there will be

598
00:54:23,58 --> 00:54:30,68
a way answer is much easier to
answer all your. Years. Here

599
00:54:31,09 --> 00:54:34,96
. OK we will do our best and will do me

600
00:54:34,97 --> 00:54:41,11
a favor. We're going to put them up and
then if you hear raise your hand and I'll

601
00:54:41,13 --> 00:54:47,66
try to monitor it as best I can for thank
you very much Paula Jones Springs. Yes

602
00:54:47,67 --> 00:54:52,21
and that's what we'll do
one of. The two there is

603
00:54:52,22 --> 00:54:57,28
a second person Bob you're our guinea pig
and that that the person is going to come

604
00:54:57,29 --> 00:55:01,65
up you want to see into the in fact
what I'm going to recommend he take the

605
00:55:01,73 --> 00:55:07,26
microphone off of the I just put it right
up to your mouth like I'm doing and let's

606
00:55:07,27 --> 00:55:13,45
see if that works so they need on
the guinea pig is Larry the young

607
00:55:14,75 --> 00:55:17,98
Larry. And like

608
00:55:17,99 --> 00:55:30,93
a long way pas on an ice cream
cone as I'd be reminded. Well

609
00:55:30,94 --> 00:55:37,64
I guess I've been there and getting to list
the names and call letters. If you want

610
00:55:37,65 --> 00:55:39,89
to say you have to recalculate your

611
00:55:39,90 --> 00:55:46,20
a fee I think you bake them on total Well
owners in the in the district not the one

612
00:55:46,24 --> 00:55:51,75
in the urban area so me right there you're
to be charging less because it's going

613
00:55:51,76 --> 00:55:56,66
to be less I'm going to charge anything
but your your numbers are off the second

614
00:55:56,67 --> 00:56:01,62
thing I want to point out but about the
presentation is that there is lot of county

615
00:56:01,63 --> 00:56:06,77
blame here the fact of the
matter is that B.M.W.

616
00:56:06,78 --> 00:56:12,69
Has come and said once there's water
people shall connect so it's to blame the

617
00:56:12,70 --> 00:56:14,31
county L.C.P.

618
00:56:14,61 --> 00:56:17,81
This ingenue with that and
I'm going to read just

619
00:56:17,82 --> 00:56:24,56
a short. Statement here this morning that
I started thinking of some analogy that

620
00:56:24,57 --> 00:56:30,08
would adequately illustrate the tremendous
inequity of charging people who are

621
00:56:30,09 --> 00:56:32,06
already paid off B.M.W.

622
00:56:32,07 --> 00:56:38,80
Or the pain of the up and the bottom of
the to convert to their well this view

623
00:56:38,81 --> 00:56:44,20
that we haven't bought and also disingenuous
we've been buying him for ten twenty

624
00:56:44,28 --> 00:56:48,67
twelve year then they're going to go aren't
on the Half Moon Bay Are you in there

625
00:56:48,68 --> 00:56:54,17
with the personality and
I quote. But to N.W.

626
00:56:54,18 --> 00:57:00,78
It's the general manager Clement I
admire the odd payment and causes

627
00:57:00,79 --> 00:57:06,87
a new connection are distinct he lives in
the general out of the gate invited to

628
00:57:06,88 --> 00:57:12,06
a school Bob which is paid by everyone in
the dish or Garlow somewhere there they

629
00:57:12,07 --> 00:57:19,06
have children enrolled school nights
and now. But it leaves out the real

630
00:57:19,07 --> 00:57:24,88
important part when the childless couple
who have been paying the school run after

631
00:57:24,89 --> 00:57:31,87
Will and send them to school they
do not pay then the school district

632
00:57:31,88 --> 00:57:36,35
does not say that they need to do to help
pay for the school but Johnny is using

633
00:57:36,36 --> 00:57:41,00
school capacity and you have
to pay for that too charging

634
00:57:41,01 --> 00:57:45,97
a capacity connection Snape is directly
analogous to the school district charging

635
00:57:45,98 --> 00:57:51,76
movie to in your kid's school there should
be no charge also the Board keeps saying

636
00:57:51,92 --> 00:57:58,40
that they do not plan on forcing the shall
connect clause in their code I think you

637
00:57:58,41 --> 00:58:04,81
guys are da protesting too much.
Here's what I would like the ep in

638
00:58:04,82 --> 00:58:10,13
one capacity charge for welcome
conversion that way in

639
00:58:10,14 --> 00:58:14,71
a new wealth version for the Religion Act
It was total was reduced by at least

640
00:58:14,72 --> 00:58:19,82
fifteen thousand dollars when your pay
for your infrastructure we were paid for

641
00:58:19,83 --> 00:58:24,11
this capacity were not even needed right
now if you want to charge for it just

642
00:58:24,12 --> 00:58:29,25
a capacity plus the rate people who
are already connected to the M.W.

643
00:58:29,26 --> 00:58:32,36
With the fire protection should receive

644
00:58:32,37 --> 00:58:38,85
a major discount on engineering and related
costs it's really wrong towards people

645
00:58:38,89 --> 00:58:45,62
the entire field all over
again. It's back to you guys

646
00:58:46,37 --> 00:58:51,74
this is. The end of the year is.

647
00:58:54,80 --> 00:59:00,43
To make. Connection.

648
00:59:02,50 --> 00:59:08,55
For an eighth of.

649
00:59:12,91 --> 00:59:19,22
The only action for my off my fourth thing
is the only action on this issue tonight

650
00:59:19,23 --> 00:59:19,91
is to appoint

651
00:59:19,99 --> 00:59:27,76
a committee. Board members
back with their. Thank

652
00:59:27,77 --> 00:59:34,63
you thank you for the

653
00:59:35,51 --> 00:59:41,26
and I think you heard so the next person
has something to say that started from

654
00:59:41,27 --> 00:59:46,61
this printer and. I have
saved actually quite

655
00:59:46,62 --> 00:59:53,61
a life. You got to just find out
that my sister I'm going to.

656
00:59:55,02 --> 01:00:00,91
I guess I'm from the number grew
and grew. Very close attention.

657
01:00:02,35 --> 01:00:08,72
On affordable cost. Do I have to haul.

658
01:00:10,32 --> 01:00:16,67
Two thousand went through the
procedure of trying to get. The wells

659
01:00:16,88 --> 01:00:22,84
drilled also trying to get. Findin out
that we had I have speaker systems

660
01:00:23,39 --> 01:00:25,63
and then the add

661
01:00:25,64 --> 01:00:31,71
a cost I meant of those two homes. A thirty
thousand dollars each with what I have

662
01:00:31,72 --> 01:00:38,14
busted already I'm looking at the numbers
right now for well for section for me for

663
01:00:38,85 --> 01:00:45,66
for water and for parts protection
I see I see up forty five

664
01:00:45,67 --> 01:00:51,55
thousand dollars here and that doesn't
include the cost because most well all are

665
01:00:51,56 --> 01:00:57,38
in back of people's houses my tanks are
in the back you've got to add another ten

666
01:00:57,39 --> 01:01:04,08
thousand or US to my cost just to get the
pipes to those locations I'm looking at

667
01:01:04,56 --> 01:01:09,40
a minimum of fifty to fifty five thousand
dollars empire to try to convert on to

668
01:01:09,41 --> 01:01:16,17
the system that numbers are
unrealistic my second. Item I like to

669
01:01:16,18 --> 01:01:23,07
say as the way all I would like to keep
my wealth for fire protection because

670
01:01:23,40 --> 01:01:30,30
it doesn't use any water I would have to
abandon my well all of that money because

671
01:01:30,31 --> 01:01:35,22
a loser I saw could use it to connect
to to my partner protector and say I'm

672
01:01:35,23 --> 01:01:41,54
looking at probably at least fifteen
thousand dollars that that was unheard of

673
01:01:41,56 --> 01:01:42,16
awkward for

674
01:01:42,17 --> 01:01:47,88
a doesn't do anything else but allows me
to re-invent cost down that maybe I could

675
01:01:47,89 --> 01:01:50,91
have poured right house told the on

676
01:01:50,92 --> 01:01:57,83
a portable for me so the costs are too
high way too high and need to be looked

677
01:01:57,84 --> 01:02:03,90
at if you have weld can they be kept
for fire protection is that I happen.

678
01:02:05,05 --> 01:02:05,54
You know

679
01:02:05,58 --> 01:02:11,93
a larger pipe brought up to the into the
area because we have driveways pavers

680
01:02:12,22 --> 01:02:16,22
that's all we have to get to I've built two
houses from the ground up I don't know

681
01:02:16,23 --> 01:02:22,34
what it costs to get to those connections
all the numbers are kind of realistic and

682
01:02:22,35 --> 01:02:26,89
in some cases where there will be
double So it's really going to be

683
01:02:27,07 --> 01:02:31,66
a lot for the whole thing for me
even though I'd like to hook up with

684
01:02:31,67 --> 01:02:37,64
a water system cannot afford all of the
come out thank you very much we really

685
01:02:37,65 --> 01:02:43,20
appreciate those comments. The next
person I have is very Hawkins.

686
01:02:54,89 --> 01:02:59,64
The tiny amount of money I'm talking about
right now really close your mouth or say

687
01:02:59,65 --> 01:03:04,30
nothing relevant to most people in this
moment but when you have the fire or the

688
01:03:04,31 --> 01:03:10,08
water you have a backflow
see. I used to pay

689
01:03:11,08 --> 01:03:15,63
a toll the sixty three dollars a
year I want to see your fee to

690
01:03:15,68 --> 01:03:21,49
a handicapped gentleman now the count now
that you have taken over the fee is I

691
01:03:21,50 --> 01:03:28,42
think one hundred three. What I
had asked. I'm not sure which

692
01:03:28,43 --> 01:03:34,86
person is now but can you bring down not
cause like if you started doing every

693
01:03:35,67 --> 01:03:41,09
several houses on one or two blocks and
bring the fee down at least down to seventy

694
01:03:41,10 --> 01:03:47,70
five plus if you have the fire and the
water you guys charge one hundred three

695
01:03:48,01 --> 01:03:54,72
for each back flow test most of the fee
is manpower and one man comes out in the

696
01:03:54,73 --> 01:04:01,25
checks the two things that maybe are six
inches apart why pay one hundred three

697
01:04:01,26 --> 01:04:06,42
times two why not make it maybe seventy
five percent off each fear or something

698
01:04:06,43 --> 01:04:10,50
like that because I know this may be pretty
time that's all you have to say thank

699
01:04:10,51 --> 01:04:14,36
you very much so this is about posting
this is what you're talking about OK Thank

700
01:04:14,37 --> 01:04:20,92
you. The next person I have is Thomas

701
01:04:21,02 --> 01:04:22,24
Sheffield and

702
01:04:29,19 --> 01:04:33,53
first of all pretty much everything that
was said here tonight are new and it made

703
01:04:33,54 --> 01:04:37,98
sense and I understand I don't agree with
it but I understand it one thing I keep

704
01:04:38,17 --> 01:04:43,65
hearing reading over and over that this
is not mandatory That's why I don't like

705
01:04:43,66 --> 01:04:47,35
the idea of being able to just put an
ordinance up down on a post office for

706
01:04:47,36 --> 01:04:48,08
a week in

707
01:04:48,09 --> 01:04:52,61
a lot and I get somebody knocking on my
door saying You have to and I've been

708
01:04:52,62 --> 01:04:57,75
assured in writing that isn't going
to be the case having said that as

709
01:04:57,76 --> 01:05:01,89
a well owner I would love to come to
city water just for resell ability of

710
01:05:01,90 --> 01:05:05,89
properties some point in time my
well works great we've been through

711
01:05:05,90 --> 01:05:10,36
a really huge drought I've only been on
that will for five years here it went to

712
01:05:10,37 --> 01:05:14,52
explore mainly but it didn't get it done
by this using water as we wish we took

713
01:05:14,53 --> 01:05:18,66
a few showers shorter showers we didn't
flush toilets we changed our our

714
01:05:18,98 --> 01:05:21,73
landscaping we checked leaks
we did all the things

715
01:05:21,74 --> 01:05:28,47
a good water conserving person would do
so I'm not afraid of my well so I guess I

716
01:05:28,48 --> 01:05:32,01
had on I think the seven I think being in

717
01:05:32,02 --> 01:05:36,64
a movie out all whatsoever to come online
and pay you more money to buy I might buy

718
01:05:36,65 --> 01:05:41,55
one of your lies. That score needed and
will then need to be purify the home for

719
01:05:41,56 --> 01:05:46,07
drinking in my personal opinion is kind
of crazy if you want our revenue over the

720
01:05:46,08 --> 01:05:50,51
course of several years and for the rest
of the life of that home then you should

721
01:05:50,52 --> 01:05:55,10
bring those those connections to us and
let us deal with the cost of going to our

722
01:05:55,11 --> 01:06:01,54
homes and do the other didn't need to
be done I get my own check on this and

723
01:06:02,04 --> 01:06:06,48
just do I home and I figure two meters
because I knew you were going to have

724
01:06:06,49 --> 01:06:11,23
a fire meter I think your two meters I fear
in the cost of the world damage see the

725
01:06:11,24 --> 01:06:17,01
wall abandonment to our work all the things
you discussed and by home alone without

726
01:06:17,02 --> 01:06:23,77
any books I'm forty five thousand dollars
subsequently insane I'm going to stay on

727
01:06:23,78 --> 01:06:30,19
my well until you come and I guess make me
do it someday and probably sell probably

728
01:06:30,20 --> 01:06:35,21
before that that point being is that
you really do see get rid of the fee

729
01:06:35,22 --> 01:06:36,91
completely charges

730
01:06:36,92 --> 01:06:41,79
a fair rate for the cost of the meter
installation and ask us to please to read us

731
01:06:42,20 --> 01:06:43,88
to get on your system and I think that's

732
01:06:43,89 --> 01:06:50,23
a really fair offer but the fee kind of
limits with the. Blessing of say Is it

733
01:06:50,24 --> 01:06:55,75
possible to come up to a fee
agreement for you to bring

734
01:06:55,76 --> 01:07:02,50
a box to our home bearing the capital
market. Now that part of the resell of our

735
01:07:02,51 --> 01:07:08,53
homes taking care of it ensures that the
next owner will have it half way near so I

736
01:07:08,54 --> 01:07:13,62
pay for her knowledge happily ever after
my When house sells the new people already

737
01:07:13,63 --> 01:07:17,60
have it there and they want to be here
fighting for that they does call you want to

738
01:07:17,61 --> 01:07:21,86
say please be my meter for granted and
you're done you know they can and they can

739
01:07:21,87 --> 01:07:27,20
do the planning on that so my take OK but
I want to also thank you guys to be here

740
01:07:27,21 --> 01:07:31,21
tonight for spotting in the time that he
hit me with some of us and to help us come

741
01:07:31,22 --> 01:07:36,58
here tonight I already understand but only
by saying please clarify for certain is

742
01:07:36,59 --> 01:07:41,02
this shall connect or must connect as I
want to know that when you did not please

743
01:07:41,15 --> 01:07:42,03
OK Thank you.

744
01:07:43,65 --> 01:07:49,39
You should just say here.

745
01:07:56,51 --> 01:07:57,74
It was

746
01:07:57,75 --> 01:08:04,32
a little question does the offer serious
offer were heard I remain open for the

747
01:08:04,44 --> 01:08:09,51
foreseeable future to. Us

748
01:08:12,24 --> 01:08:16,13
that what I think we can answer right after
this is meant to be in perpetuity until

749
01:08:16,14 --> 01:08:22,57
the board changes its mind so this
is August not the time I. Was the

750
01:08:22,58 --> 01:08:28,74
opportunity to remain
snoozing when I. Was bald.

751
01:08:39,75 --> 01:08:42,43
Thank you I just wrote

752
01:08:42,44 --> 01:08:48,68
a letter to the poor members and some
of you may have seen it on. Today but

753
01:08:49,36 --> 01:08:55,46
I know you're busy subprime shit and you
chance to read it and I echo the comments

754
01:08:55,47 --> 01:09:00,15
of many of the previous speakers but I'd
like there's one point I'd like to focus

755
01:09:00,16 --> 01:09:07,12
on. And that is that you're doing
this because you want to well owners

756
01:09:07,13 --> 01:09:13,86
to connect to the system. And I can see why
you want that and that is it makes the

757
01:09:13,87 --> 01:09:18,44
Montero sanitary district a
stronger system you're in

758
01:09:18,45 --> 01:09:22,09
a difficult place right now
you've got the full cost of

759
01:09:22,10 --> 01:09:27,07
a comprehensive water storage
treatment distribution system and

760
01:09:27,08 --> 01:09:32,84
a relatively few rates. And to the extent
that you can bring new great neighbors

761
01:09:32,91 --> 01:09:38,79
into the system that helps everyone but I
think you're going about it the wrong way

762
01:09:38,83 --> 01:09:45,64
I just you know when I the the costs
for my home are to get on the system

763
01:09:46,33 --> 01:09:51,51
what would be approximately thirty five
thousand dollars that's just too much I

764
01:09:51,52 --> 01:09:57,70
don't think people are going to go for
that prides and I think that what you need

765
01:09:57,71 --> 01:10:03,91
to take another look at is what if
you put the connections on sale had

766
01:10:03,91 --> 01:10:08,12
a great big filings basement
sale and you brought

767
01:10:08,14 --> 01:10:14,05
a large group of people into the system
that are now paying monthly rates

768
01:10:14,98 --> 01:10:21,76
what would does that look like in financial
terms because that's new revenue to the

769
01:10:21,77 --> 01:10:27,74
system that you can bonding ends up to
build capital improvements and do other

770
01:10:27,75 --> 01:10:34,56
things with and frankly at the
current price of connecting

771
01:10:35,05 --> 01:10:36,49
I don't think you're going to get

772
01:10:36,50 --> 01:10:42,87
a lot of takers and I think there's another
way to do it but the cost has to come

773
01:10:42,88 --> 01:10:49,35
down substantially thank you thank you
very much by the way everyone that is sent

774
01:10:49,36 --> 01:10:54,72
to them written communication either by
e-mail or otherwise it will be part of

775
01:10:54,73 --> 01:10:58,06
a minute that will go on our website so I
just want everyone to be aware that we

776
01:10:58,07 --> 01:10:58,48
did it on

777
01:10:58,49 --> 01:11:03,21
a number of the coming in today and so
we will read them and we will post them.

778
01:11:05,11 --> 01:11:10,75
Off them. On the top of the writing
harkening Is that correct.

779
01:11:16,69 --> 01:11:18,21
My name is astronomical and I have

780
01:11:18,22 --> 01:11:25,22
a five to two weeks trip. I'm on
the web and when I see I got this

781
01:11:25,23 --> 01:11:30,90
piece of paper from you could look up
for ninety thousand dollars was excited

782
01:11:31,84 --> 01:11:37,19
because I looked into this last
year. I came up with figures

783
01:11:37,20 --> 01:11:42,93
a lot closer to what we're talking about
life of thirty five to forty thousand so I

784
01:11:42,94 --> 01:11:45,43
believe that this is as much

785
01:11:45,60 --> 01:11:51,51
a percentage of the world and I do think
that because of the amount of money in the

786
01:11:51,52 --> 01:11:58,47
infrastructure already in my way
that you should definitely not

787
01:11:58,50 --> 01:12:05,35
be charged fifty thousand
dollars thank you very much.

788
01:12:07,55 --> 01:12:13,35
You see. John my weekend

789
01:12:24,99 --> 01:12:31,20
Good evening gentlemen and thank you for
your rather extensive description of what

790
01:12:31,20 --> 01:12:33,17
. The.

791
01:12:38,03 --> 01:12:41,83
Judge might have to the speaker I find
it rather disingenuous to say that we

792
01:12:41,84 --> 01:12:48,72
haven't bought into the system all of you
have the media since two thousand and

793
01:12:48,73 --> 01:12:54,42
three two thousand and four
kickbacks bills. I myself have paid

794
01:12:54,43 --> 01:12:58,35
a seventeen thousand dollars and
I'm unique and I'll tell you why

795
01:12:58,36 --> 01:13:00,74
a little bit later but
the does say we have

796
01:13:00,75 --> 01:13:07,55
a body the system is is totally based on
the other thing that you mention is the

797
01:13:07,56 --> 01:13:14,48
double the offer doesn't belong to the
monetary support or unsanitary district or

798
01:13:14,49 --> 01:13:18,13
the property owners have the right to the
water beneath their property which they

799
01:13:18,14 --> 01:13:24,32
pay taxes on. Is it OK for you to draw
it down and maybe deprive us of our well

800
01:13:24,33 --> 01:13:26,46
water I don't think that's

801
01:13:26,47 --> 01:13:33,34
a really strong argument to you to put forth
your system here you have another flaw

802
01:13:33,35 --> 01:13:33,98
in your

803
01:13:33,99 --> 01:13:40,74
a quote you see is the lowest of the
three close that's great because it is

804
01:13:40,75 --> 01:13:46,23
a low quote The only problem is you do not
take the time into consideration I know

805
01:13:46,24 --> 01:13:51,68
a gentleman that had to wait four months
for the contractor that you selected his

806
01:13:51,69 --> 01:13:55,25
health was already done and
booked up doesn't make

807
01:13:55,26 --> 01:14:00,10
a whole lot of attention if you operate
strictly on the cost of the hook up.

808
01:14:02,25 --> 01:14:06,33
And I might also is. It's now

809
01:14:06,72 --> 01:14:11,11
a two year interval when you vote for the
gentleman that are up here and are going

810
01:14:11,12 --> 01:14:15,26
to vote on it it used to
be just one year so take

811
01:14:15,27 --> 01:14:20,74
a good look out on and find out how they
vote because your bill and what you're

812
01:14:20,75 --> 01:14:27,62
going to pay is strictly related to
their vote. What other item of that

813
01:14:27,64 --> 01:14:34,58
I'd like to just point out I am not in
even though I'm in the service area for

814
01:14:34,60 --> 01:14:39,58
the Montero water unsanitary district I'm
in the coast my water district due to

815
01:14:39,58 --> 01:14:43,44
a jury mentoring of about
twenty two years ago to make

816
01:14:43,44 --> 01:14:49,82
a par in MA speech so even though I pay
the seventeen thousand dollars I cannot

817
01:14:49,83 --> 01:14:56,55
book up to the system I also cannot yet
sure system or here nor can I get fire

818
01:14:56,55 --> 01:14:58,15
protection so I have

819
01:14:58,17 --> 01:15:03,03
a whole trifecta I get to pay and I don't
get any service many of you may also be

820
01:15:03,04 --> 01:15:05,67
in that same boat Thank you.

821
01:15:15,66 --> 01:15:22,64
The an issue Senator Perkins having

822
01:15:22,65 --> 01:15:27,41
trouble reading that I'm sorry I was having
trouble reading the right. So much from

823
01:15:27,42 --> 01:15:33,21
when he hear me right up your mouth so my
question is is really sure and it still

824
01:15:33,33 --> 01:15:37,30
has to do with the last life where you
did your calculations and you have that

825
01:15:37,31 --> 01:15:43,00
eight hundred number and I'm just wondering
where you got five hundred when we

826
01:15:43,01 --> 01:15:48,24
talked about only three hundred something
well so you just I might be confused but

827
01:15:48,25 --> 01:15:53,28
that's OK well the question
I have to thank you

828
01:15:55,57 --> 01:16:02,55
but then page. I love research by
the neighbors right appreciate

829
01:16:02,56 --> 01:16:07,31
that and appreciate presentation two quick
questions one is will this presentation

830
01:16:07,32 --> 01:16:11,77
slide presentation be available online
Yes OK And number two is there is

831
01:16:11,78 --> 01:16:13,13
a question earlier about whether there was

832
01:16:13,14 --> 01:16:19,21
a sudden start of this offer. Two percent
interest or interest free you know that

833
01:16:19,25 --> 01:16:24,91
the answer was. Not until the board
pierces fires actually which seems really

834
01:16:24,92 --> 01:16:30,01
arbitrary I think that I think that the
some such would be considered within the

835
01:16:30,02 --> 01:16:34,82
context of the ordinance as far as how
long this offer isn't be on the table or

836
01:16:35,50 --> 01:16:39,72
what this continuation of the offer might
look like and what kind of notice folks

837
01:16:39,73 --> 01:16:46,58
the community mercy thank
you very much I've got to

838
01:16:46,58 --> 01:16:49,51
tell the name of Paul
without the last name.

839
01:17:00,90 --> 01:17:05,80
Or greater more term resident since
one thousand dollars you have.

840
01:17:08,11 --> 01:17:14,15
No one actually the water often treat the
slaughter of water I prefer not to drink

841
01:17:15,46 --> 01:17:22,40
it's never. So birth of oil I'd like to
see if you concur with that. There are

842
01:17:23,05 --> 01:17:24,57
a lot of us comics and

843
01:17:24,58 --> 01:17:28,35
a lot of the other theaters but I'm going
to give you one what I feel like it was

844
01:17:28,36 --> 01:17:33,39
a little wiggle cos we're actually two of
video replays put it all this other stuff

845
01:17:33,40 --> 01:17:39,24
out of the real from the start of OK I've
been that will cost anywhere from five

846
01:17:39,25 --> 01:17:45,17
seven thousand dollars with. Remove change
in the going to coming to the house

847
01:17:45,45 --> 01:17:51,94
could be another five could be more. To
the house for water. Without turning

848
01:17:51,98 --> 01:17:56,07
concrete or anything else at least three
or four of the earth or five it's

849
01:17:56,08 --> 01:18:02,40
connections fifteen thousand to fifty nine
year as our T.V.'s three four and I you

850
01:18:02,41 --> 01:18:06,80
have another four thousand dollars probably
implants in order to give this Archie

851
01:18:06,92 --> 01:18:10,77
in order to get the water while the first
one is in and now you have another four

852
01:18:10,78 --> 01:18:17,47
thousand dollars meter connection and
supervision. You know my son didn't know it

853
01:18:17,48 --> 01:18:18,55
was first house it was

854
01:18:18,56 --> 01:18:22,81
a beach you state that it cost four
thousand dollars of this for his his B.

855
01:18:22,82 --> 01:18:26,05
Was nine thousand dollars
not four and I have

856
01:18:26,06 --> 01:18:30,88
a check to prove it and I'm sure you get
into so with all the liens that twenty

857
01:18:30,89 --> 01:18:34,23
five thousand dollars really could turn
out to be sixty to sixty five thousand

858
01:18:34,24 --> 01:18:37,47
dollars a year easily so please
take that consideration of

859
01:18:37,48 --> 01:18:41,62
a lot of money for these people two of
David Wells and hook up with others you've

860
01:18:41,63 --> 01:18:46,30
got to get more so thank
you thank you very much to

861
01:18:46,31 --> 01:18:53,23
our are one and the

862
01:18:53,24 --> 01:18:56,14
thing is Carly Young thank you can write

863
01:19:05,28 --> 01:19:12,24
our own thoughts. When I used to go
to fire board meetings the former

864
01:19:12,25 --> 01:19:18,67
directors really were my name so you were
close. Well first of all I'll say for the

865
01:19:18,68 --> 01:19:24,10
record Thank you very much.
I don't have a well I'm

866
01:19:24,11 --> 01:19:31,02
a realtor and eleven months the
age. I'm favor of changing the

867
01:19:31,03 --> 01:19:36,88
language from Shell. For clarity
because even if you're selling

868
01:19:36,89 --> 01:19:42,21
a house you need to have disclosure
and when it's shellac I mean.

869
01:19:43,63 --> 01:19:44,84
It's it's

870
01:19:44,85 --> 01:19:51,55
a nuance but it leads to lack of clarity I
would like to see that although it kind

871
01:19:51,56 --> 01:19:53,95
of sounded like there's
your lead here saw plenty

872
01:19:53,96 --> 01:20:00,67
a little room to change your mind
later down the road. And I can

873
01:20:00,68 --> 01:20:07,37
understand all the well are thinking
upset. But I am or of someone who was top

874
01:20:07,38 --> 01:20:12,24
oblique and Clinton's could correct me. I
think it was the talk of was maybe your

875
01:20:12,25 --> 01:20:17,71
first in line customer and I don't believe
there was any kind of voluntary program

876
01:20:18,39 --> 01:20:23,59
for financing or anything at that time so
she ponied up the Fall amount to get her

877
01:20:23,60 --> 01:20:29,15
well connected I mean Captain put on
themselves US so I'd imagine there might be

878
01:20:29,16 --> 01:20:33,70
other well owners that have problematic
well and want to just have the

879
01:20:33,71 --> 01:20:40,42
a surety of having water coming flowing
into their mouths. But the other thing is I

880
01:20:40,43 --> 01:20:43,100
know that the connection and
the rest of the engineering C.

881
01:20:44,01 --> 01:20:49,56
Is in the counties in the whole total package
seems very expensive but just keep in

882
01:20:49,57 --> 01:20:56,28
mind that things get cheaper over time I've
experienced many times when I postponed

883
01:20:56,29 --> 01:21:00,59
doing something and later found I should
have done it back then because what it

884
01:21:00,60 --> 01:21:05,60
could show that has gotten a lot more
expensive now so is flying into so

885
01:21:05,61 --> 01:21:11,97
a voluntary program I can understand
people. Choosing to opt out it's not like

886
01:21:11,98 --> 01:21:16,92
you're forcing them to spend anywhere from
fifteen thousand to sixty five thousand

887
01:21:16,93 --> 01:21:23,30
I've been hearing at this meeting
but anyway. Regarding the new

888
01:21:23,31 --> 01:21:29,02
development this these are all existing
well owners and I can understand their

889
01:21:29,03 --> 01:21:35,07
concerns and they did have to pay to help
the district by the water system from.

890
01:21:36,32 --> 01:21:43,28
The old. Cal amp but. By the same

891
01:21:43,29 --> 01:21:44,81
token there is

892
01:21:44,82 --> 01:21:49,66
a lot of new development scheduled I mean
I personally know about the wellness

893
01:21:49,67 --> 01:21:54,11
center and they waive office park
or business park there is also

894
01:21:54,67 --> 01:22:01,25
a huge. Subsidized housing complex
and nuanced being proposed

895
01:22:01,91 --> 01:22:05,05
and I don't know but I have

896
01:22:05,06 --> 01:22:11,03
a feeling that that's going to tax the
water usage over time too so probably as

897
01:22:11,07 --> 01:22:17,33
those things go online and then being
subsidized My question to Clemens or the rest

898
01:22:17,34 --> 01:22:19,11
of the are they going to get

899
01:22:19,12 --> 01:22:26,08
a discount when they start connecting to
everything because they're low income and

900
01:22:26,09 --> 01:22:32,88
subsidized by the county and I guess
government program because I think

901
01:22:32,89 --> 01:22:37,67
I'm not in favor of well on earth having
to bear that burden because they're not

902
01:22:37,71 --> 01:22:42,89
connected to an existing there and existing
outside I don't want to pave the path

903
01:22:42,90 --> 01:22:43,02
for

904
01:22:43,03 --> 01:22:51,16
a new development who's
subsidized and then. I think. My

905
01:22:51,20 --> 01:22:57,57
writing. I just would like to
reiterate that I'm in favor of

906
01:22:58,03 --> 01:23:04,83
you offering voluntary. Connections.
Financing option I think that's

907
01:23:04,84 --> 01:23:05,11
really

908
01:23:05,12 --> 01:23:09,41
a lot of call because in the past people
have the pony up the money thank you very

909
01:23:09,42 --> 01:23:12,93
much thank you very much Chris.

910
01:23:25,58 --> 01:23:32,54
Thank you for the opportunity to talk
to all you I. When I got this letter it

911
01:23:32,55 --> 01:23:39,47
touched off our fire storm where folks
said I know I went mad side usually

912
01:23:39,78 --> 01:23:46,55
trying to be thorough and reduce documents
writing so that we can make sense of

913
01:23:46,56 --> 01:23:53,12
what is a very complicated
controversy or topic so I've written

914
01:23:53,13 --> 01:24:00,10
a letter and on this. I appreciate
the opportunity to comment

915
01:24:00,11 --> 01:24:05,60
on this and while the material I received
deals for with the financing plan.

916
01:24:07,33 --> 01:24:12,81
The conversation is broader than it's really
about the policies that underline need

917
01:24:12,82 --> 01:24:14,03
for financing

918
01:24:14,81 --> 01:24:20,99
a connection and I think it's really in the
best interest of the community to have

919
01:24:21,23 --> 01:24:27,87
a really robust dialogue not just tonight
concerning the policies that underlie

920
01:24:27,88 --> 01:24:32,35
this proposal for financing before you
members will manage because I don't think

921
01:24:32,36 --> 01:24:36,79
it's at adequate policy and there are

922
01:24:36,80 --> 01:24:41,39
a small number of people that accept that
and you wait are determined that you

923
01:24:41,40 --> 01:24:47,79
needed you more you're going to have to
deal with that discrepancy. So I provided

924
01:24:47,80 --> 01:24:52,34
two documents to the to you guys that that
are in your packet and I have copies and

925
01:24:52,35 --> 01:24:57,45
I'm going to leave on the front counter
here there are there are two The documents

926
01:24:57,46 --> 01:25:01,77
are first an extract of
language from the L.C.P.

927
01:25:01,78 --> 01:25:07,43
In the District Code there clears up some
of confusion about what's an urban zone

928
01:25:07,80 --> 01:25:10,94
what's an urban area
what's a rural zone what's

929
01:25:10,95 --> 01:25:16,34
a rural area they're all real terms and
they have very specific legal meanings that

930
01:25:16,35 --> 01:25:23,12
that need to be understood the second
argument is my attempt to sell Bradman vision

931
01:25:23,13 --> 01:25:28,23
through what should happen here. The
most significant one is I think that

932
01:25:28,24 --> 01:25:34,16
connection should be weighed and the
reason I think it should be waived is that

933
01:25:34,20 --> 01:25:39,71
these waters have been paying into the
system for years and they receive some

934
01:25:39,72 --> 01:25:41,31
benefit not

935
01:25:41,32 --> 01:25:47,83
a tremendous amount of benefit to me
personally I can't be served by water by sewer

936
01:25:47,88 --> 01:25:52,63
or by partner because of the location where
I am in the rural residential I know

937
01:25:52,64 --> 01:25:55,88
there are other people in the rural
residential and in the rural area that have

938
01:25:55,89 --> 01:26:02,81
that same same point. Also I'd like to say
that the benefit for these connections

939
01:26:02,85 --> 01:26:09,10
occurring is not just to the well on or.
We're talking about and succumbing to

940
01:26:09,11 --> 01:26:14,72
pointed out that that Wells our shores
of possible contamination the number of

941
01:26:14,73 --> 01:26:18,81
straws or we will move our bug refers
reducing the risk that there will be

942
01:26:18,82 --> 01:26:25,33
contamination so we need to acknowledge
that there is value there and not but the

943
01:26:25,34 --> 01:26:32,10
entire cost for something that's mutually
beneficial on on the well honors. I also

944
01:26:32,11 --> 01:26:32,88
want to make

945
01:26:32,92 --> 01:26:39,71
a comment that the Geo bonds believe
I'm blanking on your name from our

946
01:26:39,72 --> 01:26:42,04
wells. So you have

947
01:26:42,05 --> 01:26:49,03
a slide that says that there were no. Geo
bonds that were being utilized for the

948
01:26:49,04 --> 01:26:55,06
list of improvements however there are
or are funds that are available for

949
01:26:55,07 --> 01:27:00,52
a cap on programs that were raised after
the initial purchase I was on board when

950
01:27:00,73 --> 01:27:06,16
those bonds were refinanced and rather than
reduce the deficit or the switch would

951
01:27:06,17 --> 01:27:13,11
reduce your bills the district
acted to increase the principal so

952
01:27:13,15 --> 01:27:19,48
increased principal lower interest rate
same bill up to new products but those

953
01:27:19,49 --> 01:27:25,63
improvements were paying for just as we did
the acquisition so. I'm not saying that

954
01:27:25,64 --> 01:27:30,25
there isn't an argument we're on the side
I'm saying the Chacham Portland and so

955
01:27:30,26 --> 01:27:31,30
motional for

956
01:27:31,31 --> 01:27:37,35
a lot of the wall that we really need to
take the time to understand it and get

957
01:27:37,36 --> 01:27:43,43
everybody interesting in heard.
So I would really urge you to.

958
01:27:44,46 --> 01:27:51,23
The way table this initiative
and what that process of more

959
01:27:51,27 --> 01:27:58,27
call an open discussion occur and I
would also like to have the county very

960
01:27:58,28 --> 01:28:02,82
much involved in that because while there
are with there are things that we can

961
01:28:02,83 --> 01:28:07,85
point to invade the county is the one
that's responsible for this the reality is

962
01:28:08,42 --> 01:28:12,51
the county is responsible for it because
they are the when you use planning in

963
01:28:12,52 --> 01:28:18,24
today and I know the district has taken
heat for overstepping have been wondering

964
01:28:18,48 --> 01:28:25,47
why I don't believe on it's on the
district could remove that shell word

965
01:28:26,47 --> 01:28:32,59
I object strenuously to shell but I think
that we need to work with the county and

966
01:28:32,60 --> 01:28:39,54
understand why that is there. What strikes
me is that we've got an ordinance

967
01:28:39,55 --> 01:28:44,09
that isn't being enforced and there are
good reasons for that there's good reasons

968
01:28:44,10 --> 01:28:49,06
why the county isn't being proactive at
this I think it constitutes if you were to

969
01:28:49,07 --> 01:28:53,40
pour some of the capital well like that
under the current plan and the current

970
01:28:53,41 --> 01:28:58,17
period I think constitutes
eighty I think that you are as

971
01:28:58,18 --> 01:29:04,37
a private individual entitled to the property
and to be compensated when it's been

972
01:29:04,72 --> 01:29:08,81
removed for the benefit of the whole
community and I'm not arguing that it isn't

973
01:29:08,82 --> 01:29:15,03
a benefit it actually is so bottom
line I'd really like to participate

974
01:29:15,45 --> 01:29:21,84
and. Engage with the board in a dialogue
on these policies before you make

975
01:29:21,85 --> 01:29:26,05
a decision about how you want to
finance this thank you thank you Chris

976
01:29:26,97 --> 01:29:33,68
Lewis I believe in

977
01:29:33,72 --> 01:29:39,55
Joel Miller like at that point
ugh. Oh thank you very much

978
01:29:40,60 --> 01:29:41,41
and I have

979
01:29:41,42 --> 01:29:52,71
a person by the name of Dante. And

980
01:29:52,72 --> 01:29:57,37
he's going to resume if you want to
or city file by some sources one.

981
01:29:59,73 --> 01:30:04,55
You can take it out to monster isn't going
to tell you any family's been here for

982
01:30:04,71 --> 01:30:11,24
a few decades. Couple issues are just
learning about this recent but you're

983
01:30:11,25 --> 01:30:15,66
milestones got to run this all started
just to understand that this all started

984
01:30:15,67 --> 01:30:19,69
with the moratorium to most of the property
owners that didn't allow connections

985
01:30:20,24 --> 01:30:23,60
charges anywhere from fifty to thirty
thousand all to you know well to begin with

986
01:30:24,55 --> 01:30:31,32
now or is this can I do this so my
first communist. Just to go to the

987
01:30:31,33 --> 01:30:37,11
shower Maggie what is the process for us
as the residents of Montero to reverse the

988
01:30:37,12 --> 01:30:43,14
language in the proposal from from Shall
to match you could illustrate explain it

989
01:30:43,15 --> 01:30:49,87
to us on it will happily do that how do we
organize to do that. And second is seems

990
01:30:49,88 --> 01:30:55,19
like using the Coastal Commission
and the county as a hammer and

991
01:30:55,20 --> 01:30:58,94
a backer and to the previous speakers more
than I think that's true the county is

992
01:30:59,17 --> 01:31:04,34
the planning department is is back in
your efforts and I think to many of our

993
01:31:04,35 --> 01:31:09,06
family comes down to private property or
it's the summit with jobs on the property

994
01:31:09,07 --> 01:31:14,58
in the water under the is that is that is
the ownership of the property owner. So I

995
01:31:14,59 --> 01:31:17,80
don't see how you guys have the right to
our or her but we don't have the right to

996
01:31:17,81 --> 01:31:24,81
that I called her on. Who

997
01:31:24,82 --> 01:31:26,48
I would just you know does

998
01:31:26,49 --> 01:31:31,24
a very analogous situation with the junior
right now with solar energy there it's

999
01:31:31,25 --> 01:31:37,23
called net metering and those are interested
in doing potable tax or first solar

1000
01:31:37,24 --> 01:31:39,95
power on your on your
property but P.G. And E.

1001
01:31:39,96 --> 01:31:44,60
Is making it such that you have the connect
to the grid and using one of the same

1002
01:31:44,61 --> 01:31:48,88
excuse that you guys are using so I don't
need to be not just like when it's not an

1003
01:31:48,89 --> 01:31:52,77
excuse but this in justification
I guess. I'd just like to get

1004
01:31:52,78 --> 01:31:56,55
a little bit more clarity on how you
guys came up with those and what is the

1005
01:31:56,56 --> 01:32:03,23
process for us to learn just as property
owners to have an impact on the language

1006
01:32:03,27 --> 01:32:07,41
between shall and maybe the thing whether
or not you're saying in public or not

1007
01:32:07,70 --> 01:32:12,49
that being indoctrinated you're placed
into that I'm going to have you know me in

1008
01:32:12,50 --> 01:32:14,33
or out of office and the like

1009
01:32:14,34 --> 01:32:19,53
a decision that's going to stand for you
know years and decades on so what's your

1010
01:32:19,54 --> 01:32:25,08
plan to help us to reverse that language
as our readers of this. OK thank you very

1011
01:32:25,09 --> 01:32:32,03
much. To and

1012
01:32:32,70 --> 01:32:38,25
that is all the green cards I haven't
did anyone else wish to speak for

1013
01:32:38,26 --> 01:32:42,35
a vote would you know. So I need to have

1014
01:32:42,36 --> 01:32:46,19
a green card that still
required and then you speak.

1015
01:33:09,76 --> 01:33:10,35
I mean you're

1016
01:33:10,36 --> 01:33:17,29
a rebel I live on the coast for.
Fifty five years and I've been

1017
01:33:17,29 --> 01:33:24,23
on the farm I was on the far right on
the fire board and rode the. Bike as

1018
01:33:24,24 --> 01:33:28,89
far as the. Projects go
usually far traction in

1019
01:33:28,90 --> 01:33:32,89
a large project you're required to put out

1020
01:33:32,90 --> 01:33:39,75
a fire protection in zero four leaf
or. A bird. And talk to the door

1021
01:33:39,75 --> 01:33:46,19
and. In fact with Jack Foster
want to. Look at your school saw

1022
01:33:46,89 --> 01:33:51,18
the farmer farmer part of additional
one hundred twenty dollars. K.

1023
01:33:51,38 --> 01:33:55,06
Just for farm action but that was also

1024
01:33:55,07 --> 01:34:01,84
a bit new. And turned it
over to the water but it was

1025
01:34:01,85 --> 01:34:06,80
parked I can for you our community but
just that one project required additional

1026
01:34:06,81 --> 01:34:13,20
park protection and as far as up the offer
from I'm not how I'd like to see it

1027
01:34:13,21 --> 01:34:19,54
going to take you have were you know
well have contaminated the wells. In the

1028
01:34:19,55 --> 01:34:24,68
district and as far as being the same
water for up on find them hard to believe

1029
01:34:24,69 --> 01:34:29,35
because neighbors concretely get to doesn't
mean that I can seventeen in the canyon

1030
01:34:29,36 --> 01:34:34,60
beyond where the flowers are very much more
now than ever I remember years ago that

1031
01:34:35,02 --> 01:34:37,55
they were you know close to
one hundred another street or

1032
01:34:37,56 --> 01:34:44,14
a hundred saw how you use you know explain
all these discrepancies in the same

1033
01:34:44,15 --> 01:34:49,13
auction for why you have all these
discrepancies in fact I hate moving water you

1034
01:34:49,14 --> 01:34:56,03
know that around three snow and is in the
I mean the other people speaking here

1035
01:34:56,04 --> 01:34:59,92
that shall and may that's

1036
01:34:59,97 --> 01:35:04,94
a huge jump now be an issue you know the
definition between those two words of

1037
01:35:04,95 --> 01:35:11,30
normal and never again I was like talking
to some of my neighbors were number

1038
01:35:11,31 --> 01:35:17,75
one. We've been paying for this on our
property tax I lived there for fifty five

1039
01:35:17,76 --> 01:35:23,85
years OK and so I've been holding this
water system back I was hooked up to the

1040
01:35:23,86 --> 01:35:29,16
water system for like twenty years I got
tired of run out of water I'm not saying

1041
01:35:29,17 --> 01:35:31,91
it was your fault but you
guys bought a pig in a poke

1042
01:35:32,63 --> 01:35:39,09
a far distance sued them water company
and their maps were while I was on

1043
01:35:40,00 --> 01:35:45,98
they found they had things in the ground
and didn't exist so. We've been paying the

1044
01:35:45,99 --> 01:35:50,71
system and I went to my well I have it as
an act well and I had converted over and

1045
01:35:50,72 --> 01:35:53,100
I pumped it for ten years and
then want to convert it over to

1046
01:35:54,01 --> 01:35:58,87
a domestic the gallons per minute never
changed and I had to drill on the thirty

1047
01:35:58,88 --> 01:36:03,43
year before year drop so all I get out
from it haven't changed because when I had

1048
01:36:03,44 --> 01:36:07,59
a commercial where I had to have to have
to go to the county help and everything

1049
01:36:07,60 --> 01:36:13,55
was exactly the way I was ten
years ago so I would like to see.

1050
01:36:14,47 --> 01:36:20,91
You guys will work with us because
we have paid into the system. And

1051
01:36:21,32 --> 01:36:25,57
the other thing you know I hope you provide
are just proper people because when I

1052
01:36:25,58 --> 01:36:25,94
was

1053
01:36:25,95 --> 01:36:32,67
a fire board this board knife
fire protection and I got the

1054
01:36:32,68 --> 01:36:37,78
letter result I always did after I say
the letters were you guys did not I fart

1055
01:36:37,79 --> 01:36:42,82
actually so I hope you don't look down
that road because you know how in safety

1056
01:36:42,95 --> 01:36:45,81
your primary concern thank
you thank you very much

1057
01:36:46,09 --> 01:36:52,46
you sit on

1058
01:37:01,08 --> 01:37:06,87
thank you my name is Bob all of us with
almost like to read your minority report of

1059
01:37:07,07 --> 01:37:11,10
oc course on our cover of what

1060
01:37:11,24 --> 01:37:16,86
a lot of well heard facts were Grant though
so the move or the community wells are

1061
01:37:16,88 --> 01:37:21,33
only much deeper and touching on the phone
that wells are also knocking for but

1062
01:37:21,86 --> 01:37:25,15
that's why they sometimes dry out when the
neighbor next door doesn't because they

1063
01:37:25,15 --> 01:37:32,01
are in Fracture park the realm
of what we purchased before was

1064
01:37:32,02 --> 01:37:37,46
a rusty Rambler with flat tires that's
what we've been paying for because them or

1065
01:37:37,50 --> 01:37:44,44
the other being preserved has now been named
to make that Rambler shining on rusty

1066
01:37:44,48 --> 01:37:50,10
and run. Under snow since this
meeting would not be necessary

1067
01:37:51,61 --> 01:37:55,93
absolutely would not have been necessary
to haul understands me because we never

1068
01:37:55,94 --> 01:37:56,39
would have had

1069
01:37:56,40 --> 01:38:00,76
a passive argue over it in the first place
and we would have paid twice in front of

1070
01:38:00,77 --> 01:38:06,68
him that we're paying now is this going
tensioners I understand it's difficult

1071
01:38:07,43 --> 01:38:09,99
on and if I had

1072
01:38:10,00 --> 01:38:13,92
a paper or something that I don't think
I want to pay for I would take the same

1073
01:38:13,93 --> 01:38:16,06
position but as

1074
01:38:16,27 --> 01:38:22,62
a person that's been unsustained for
years. I've been paying the make that Nash

1075
01:38:22,63 --> 01:38:29,13
Rambler run so if someone who now
gets to ride or live with me

1076
01:38:30,03 --> 01:38:35,79
doesn't have to pay for the upkeep I would
like to respond to the things I've done

1077
01:38:36,33 --> 01:38:42,31
to fix the rust bucket. I also
have some experience with finance.

1078
01:38:44,16 --> 01:38:48,23
As is possible I would also like to be
involved in the discussion and I don't think

1079
01:38:48,24 --> 01:38:51,00
this was new but I think we knew this was

1080
01:38:51,01 --> 01:38:56,60
a community I think for well over seven
point I think the current customers have

1081
01:38:56,61 --> 01:39:02,39
appointments and demanding one slips of
the other will not get it done we are

1082
01:39:02,51 --> 01:39:08,67
united and we have to get along we have
to make compromises so everyone will

1083
01:39:08,68 --> 01:39:14,08
benefit and the pain is felt it will evolve
and the benefits are received it will

1084
01:39:14,09 --> 01:39:20,51
be by all thank you for your
time thank you Bob Thank you.

1085
01:39:21,87 --> 01:39:28,70
The else OK I'm going to close the
public hearing where they have

1086
01:39:28,71 --> 01:39:33,00
promised. I think what I'd like to do
before I bring it to the board is there are

1087
01:39:33,01 --> 01:39:39,13
some questions out there with the retracting
the questions come and. Yet I think I

1088
01:39:39,14 --> 01:39:42,34
can answer some of the question.

1089
01:39:46,20 --> 01:39:53,02
Right. OK thought I'll try to go out to
some of the questions and address them

1090
01:39:53,66 --> 01:39:54,27
so first I was

1091
01:39:54,28 --> 01:39:59,63
a gentleman who lives on such and valley
road. Why is that not that not they look

1092
01:39:59,64 --> 01:40:05,00
for domestic use it really depends on where
on suntan Valley rolled up the map here

1093
01:40:05,01 --> 01:40:11,27
is very helpful you just have to see if
you're inside that area that you know the

1094
01:40:11,28 --> 01:40:17,84
bottom line or outside. We can help
you at the office as well with this

1095
01:40:18,45 --> 01:40:24,01
so you can approach us when we can
figure it out. But according oftentimes

1096
01:40:24,02 --> 01:40:30,04
bellybutton wrote this outside the urban
airport inside. You're saying this is

1097
01:40:30,78 --> 01:40:35,27
differently solved it sounds like it's
outside and that means we wouldn't be able

1098
01:40:35,28 --> 01:40:39,92
to provide domestic service but we would
be able to provide fire protection service

1099
01:40:40,69 --> 01:40:47,18
you also if that costs and I'm assuming
that the cost estimate that we provided is

1100
01:40:47,28 --> 01:40:50,64
for disconnection from the
meter to the house that's

1101
01:40:50,65 --> 01:40:57,45
a clear No it's the it's the cost from the
main to the meter so what's not included

1102
01:40:57,70 --> 01:41:03,35
is the cost from the meter
to the house. You also

1103
01:41:04,11 --> 01:41:10,16
a very good question are new wells
inside the urban area where water can be

1104
01:41:10,17 --> 01:41:15,40
provided prohibitive.
That is false hope L.C.P.

1105
01:41:16,15 --> 01:41:22,59
Requirement. That as soon as public
water becomes available it is available

1106
01:41:22,92 --> 01:41:28,65
all no development is served by
Mattera water sanitary district so.

1107
01:41:29,79 --> 01:41:33,28
Although there's no there's simply
no new well permits are issued.

1108
01:41:38,85 --> 01:41:45,22
Larry Young. Statement about the
would be based on well owner

1109
01:41:45,23 --> 01:41:50,02
numbers on the say this is misleading or
not based on well our numbers these are

1110
01:41:50,03 --> 01:41:56,55
connections available connections has nothing
to do with the number of wells inside

1111
01:41:56,56 --> 01:42:03,10
the district or. Then we have.

1112
01:42:04,84 --> 01:42:11,76
A question can well be kept or
fire protection and the answer

1113
01:42:11,77 --> 01:42:18,30
to that is. It really depended it
is that situation off well of the

1114
01:42:18,31 --> 01:42:23,47
poor eighty nine and grant that were permanent
for eighty nine can be grandfathered

1115
01:42:23,48 --> 01:42:30,26
in well after eighty nine have to be
dependent upon connection to the system.

1116
01:42:32,98 --> 01:42:33,87
Again this is

1117
01:42:34,40 --> 01:42:41,36
a local Coast program. Then
Mary in the question about

1118
01:42:41,37 --> 01:42:45,55
the backlog. And I think that was also or

1119
01:42:45,56 --> 01:42:51,94
a good one she. I think actually he's not
here any longer but she asked Why did the

1120
01:42:51,95 --> 01:42:58,94
fee go up the fee went up ten years
ago. Were simple reason because

1121
01:42:59,21 --> 01:43:05,31
what is involved in this box full
prevention program is the make sense of the

1122
01:43:05,32 --> 01:43:12,10
problem it's administrate of work
somebody has to keep track of the box for

1123
01:43:12,11 --> 01:43:19,01
prevention devices and. And
essentially. Make sure that they're

1124
01:43:19,02 --> 01:43:24,37
all tested once per year the state code
requirement we can't we have to oblige to

1125
01:43:24,38 --> 01:43:30,42
it has actually our regulator the state
is looking at the program every year.

1126
01:43:31,55 --> 01:43:37,11
At the time the program was outsourced
to someone to accounting the state

1127
01:43:37,12 --> 01:43:43,79
approached us and essentially strongly
suggested that we take the program

1128
01:43:43,83 --> 01:43:50,58
in-house so instead all that now
paying ten thousand dollars to the

1129
01:43:50,58 --> 01:43:57,11
county. We probably an
in-house administer the

1130
01:43:57,12 --> 01:44:03,66
program in the house and test all
the saw all the above all the

1131
01:44:04,54 --> 01:44:11,00
devices ourselves so the end
with this which we realize

1132
01:44:11,49 --> 01:44:12,33
that we have about

1133
01:44:12,34 --> 01:44:19,04
a hundred devices in the system
that ten thousand almost pay by the

1134
01:44:19,05 --> 01:44:25,81
community to maintain about one hundred
devices so that was change of time and that

1135
01:44:25,82 --> 01:44:32,19
cost was related to the people that are
are actually on the Internet need that

1136
01:44:32,20 --> 01:44:39,18
device service so all instead of the community
paying about one hundred dollars per

1137
01:44:39,19 --> 01:44:45,30
device and the owner dishing
all seventy dollars per test

1138
01:44:46,07 --> 01:44:52,52
we combined the two made it much cheaper
much more efficient and are now charging

1139
01:44:52,75 --> 01:44:57,04
the people that are directly benefiting
from this and we're charging them

1140
01:44:57,05 --> 01:45:00,62
a reasonable one hundred dollars
one hundred three dollars is not.

1141
01:45:05,51 --> 01:45:07,91
Ironic but can continue.

1142
01:45:13,88 --> 01:45:20,82
OK Thomas Sheffield. A question or
on that I thought was very good

1143
01:45:20,83 --> 01:45:26,85
that was can go ahead
services be installed. Under.

1144
01:45:28,75 --> 01:45:35,67
I guess under one owner and the next
owner can then connect. I think

1145
01:45:35,87 --> 01:45:38,56
you know the idea of go ahead services is

1146
01:45:38,57 --> 01:45:43,64
a good one and I think we'll bring this
up to the board in some form in that and

1147
01:45:43,65 --> 01:45:50,35
discuss this. Then we have just
Baker asking does this really

1148
01:45:50,36 --> 01:45:55,10
offer remains opened wide already answered
that we don't happen intends to move

1149
01:45:55,11 --> 01:45:55,100
that program.

1150
01:46:04,37 --> 01:46:06,10
The rest of the questions were more of

1151
01:46:06,11 --> 01:46:10,41
a discussion as to how to go forward in
the comments that came to us so what I'd

1152
01:46:10,42 --> 01:46:11,92
like to do is.

1153
01:46:18,69 --> 01:46:23,56
Yes it said asked that question and yes
there their pain clinics with these

1154
01:46:23,57 --> 01:46:29,36
according to our fee schedule. Now
there's nothing subsidized on the.

1155
01:46:34,42 --> 01:46:41,23
Right. But OK. Our couple deal other Q.

1156
01:46:41,24 --> 01:46:46,73
And A but I want to keep it
relatively Let's go ahead sir. For.

1157
01:46:48,70 --> 01:46:55,58
Her. Yeah I. Don't know
that that's an issue

1158
01:46:55,59 --> 01:47:00,91
that we need to talk about how to proceed
on that issue exactly I just eat alert

1159
01:47:00,92 --> 01:47:05,59
everyone tonight there were not agenda
items to actually take action on something

1160
01:47:05,60 --> 01:47:11,06
like that so I need to be discussion as
it were I wish to proceed one works.

1161
01:47:22,91 --> 01:47:26,97
OK some less about let the board let
the board discuss how we will call the

1162
01:47:26,98 --> 01:47:31,43
proceeds are going to bring discussion
back to the board in those issues and

1163
01:47:31,44 --> 01:47:33,82
everything we're talking
about our process up here.

1164
01:47:47,80 --> 01:47:53,23
With we certainly can take
that on the verge of thank.

1165
01:47:55,65 --> 01:48:00,22
Yes yes. Yes OK Go ahead Scott.

1166
01:48:04,07 --> 01:48:09,29
I think aren't out. Of the question
but may not come all the order

1167
01:48:11,21 --> 01:48:16,59
I'll go through what I've got. One thing
I'm not going to reiterate I told

1168
01:48:16,64 --> 01:48:23,53
everybody on next or probably I don't
know seventy times. The thing the

1169
01:48:23,54 --> 01:48:26,31
phone him jam it's night. Is

1170
01:48:26,32 --> 01:48:32,14
a voluntary program and people
who didn't want it would have

1171
01:48:32,58 --> 01:48:33,28
a minder or

1172
01:48:33,29 --> 01:48:39,25
a touch but being we passive people will
be able to finance if they wish to comment

1173
01:48:40,26 --> 01:48:46,54
nothing in the way or the pleas written
drafted for us to consider for my nothing

1174
01:48:46,80 --> 01:48:52,19
changes anything about shower
may that has been the case

1175
01:48:53,61 --> 01:48:55,72
for decades now that's not

1176
01:48:55,73 --> 01:49:01,31
a new language I appreciate that many of
your learning about it now and as many of

1177
01:49:01,32 --> 01:49:07,34
you know I've engaged in conversation on
this the thing that is on the agenda for

1178
01:49:07,35 --> 01:49:12,97
my is do we make it possible for the
people who want to to come in and get the

1179
01:49:12,98 --> 01:49:19,51
finance the things in the ordinance if you
look there are other other risks that we

1180
01:49:19,55 --> 01:49:23,64
passed in the past and they're online as
well you'll see at the start of these

1181
01:49:23,65 --> 01:49:24,11
things there's

1182
01:49:24,12 --> 01:49:30,87
a recitation of things to know that are
conditioned to the reasons in the things

1183
01:49:30,88 --> 01:49:37,25
that support or authorize us to
do certain things the reservation

1184
01:49:37,69 --> 01:49:43,53
of items at the start of the ordinance are
just these are things we should all OWN

1185
01:49:43,54 --> 01:49:47,66
be aware of in writing them all down
here and then here's the action that we

1186
01:49:47,67 --> 01:49:51,79
propose to take action that
we propose to take to create

1187
01:49:51,83 --> 01:49:57,24
a new language about what the district can
or cannot do and what the language does

1188
01:49:57,30 --> 01:50:03,74
is authorizes the general manager just to
go set up these contracts for the climate

1189
01:50:05,05 --> 01:50:11,43
that's. Now people say it's all
complicated and it certainly

1190
01:50:11,44 --> 01:50:12,11
raises

1191
01:50:12,22 --> 01:50:18,58
a lot of concerns but when people
try to scare you into thinking that

1192
01:50:19,03 --> 01:50:23,99
we're coming to take your wealth away I'm
going to tell you cut it out that's not

1193
01:50:24,00 --> 01:50:30,73
what this said. We're not come across
anything other than after all this work to

1194
01:50:30,74 --> 01:50:34,64
lift the moratorium to take the water
system and put it into the hands of the

1195
01:50:34,65 --> 01:50:39,27
community to get to where we can take the
homes where they were looking at being

1196
01:50:39,28 --> 01:50:42,76
forced out of their homes because they
couldn't get water and we couldn't give it

1197
01:50:42,77 --> 01:50:48,87
to all and now we've got water we've got
the ability we've got the support of the

1198
01:50:48,88 --> 01:50:52,09
Coastal Commission the support of the state
water department we've got the support

1199
01:50:52,10 --> 01:50:56,76
of the county finally after all these years
we're able to do this and some people

1200
01:50:56,77 --> 01:51:00,79
are going to head for once but if it could
be paid off over time that's what we're

1201
01:51:00,80 --> 01:51:06,25
talking about not so for the people who
want to put the fear uncertainty and doubt

1202
01:51:06,26 --> 01:51:11,01
in their minds to try to complicate that
issue with all the other I'm not saying

1203
01:51:11,02 --> 01:51:11,46
the other is

1204
01:51:11,47 --> 01:51:16,53
a Moorpark about Don't get me wrong but
let's be really clear the orders that we're

1205
01:51:16,54 --> 01:51:20,26
talking about money and you
know we sat and talked for

1206
01:51:20,27 --> 01:51:27,26
a long time but the sums that we're
talking about tonight. Got started

1207
01:51:27,30 --> 01:51:32,07
on this or that sort of only about the
climate and it doesn't bring with it

1208
01:51:32,11 --> 01:51:39,08
anything that you have to do unless you
choose you want to sign up for this and

1209
01:51:39,09 --> 01:51:43,17
then the county's going to make you do
some things we've got some requirements

1210
01:51:43,37 --> 01:51:48,92
engineering permitting all that stuff
you've got to get plumbers got to make that

1211
01:51:48,93 --> 01:51:52,98
connection there's things that happen
happen sure but I think we've been kind of

1212
01:51:52,99 --> 01:51:54,13
diligent about lifting

1213
01:51:54,14 --> 01:51:59,33
a lot of these things out. Some of these
things would be under your control in

1214
01:51:59,34 --> 01:52:05,22
terms of whom you hire to do the various
pieces of work like like cap and that well

1215
01:52:05,22 --> 01:52:11,71
. I know some people who don't go out and
get bids and then they get socked with

1216
01:52:11,72 --> 01:52:16,47
a huge bill once they complain it up about
how much that cost him play. You know

1217
01:52:16,84 --> 01:52:21,05
you can talk to one contractor you can
talk to several. There are things that you

1218
01:52:21,06 --> 01:52:25,58
can control we've had to criticism about
the things that we can control Well you

1219
01:52:25,59 --> 01:52:30,72
know we got to get with three this I
appreciate the comment about the time but.

1220
01:52:33,85 --> 01:52:36,98
Those are the kinds of things that we all
have to think about as we make these

1221
01:52:36,99 --> 01:52:42,37
decisions I go along on the whole business
about the parent certainly in doubt but

1222
01:52:42,38 --> 01:52:43,67
you know I'm I think a lot of

1223
01:52:43,68 --> 01:52:48,88
a lot of people over the past few days and
it keeps getting injected back in the

1224
01:52:48,89 --> 01:52:55,37
conversation that we are all neighbors
none of us on this board have any interest

1225
01:52:55,38 --> 01:52:59,83
in setting ourselves up in opposition to
the people that we live among we're like

1226
01:52:59,84 --> 01:53:06,11
you we live in monetary must be I've lived
here since ninety four and now I mean

1227
01:53:07,07 --> 01:53:10,06
I haven't lived here my
whole life so I guess I'm

1228
01:53:10,07 --> 01:53:15,42
a newcomer but I really appreciate the
place that we live and I really appreciate

1229
01:53:15,69 --> 01:53:19,14
the relationship that we have neighbors and
this is an extraordinary place and I'm

1230
01:53:19,15 --> 01:53:22,85
so proud of my community that this many
people seven members of the community

1231
01:53:22,86 --> 01:53:28,38
showed up in my rough count. We've
had a really nice community and it's

1232
01:53:28,39 --> 01:53:34,60
a magnificent thing about where we live.
And let's be let's be decent to each other

1233
01:53:34,61 --> 01:53:41,45
in terms of not trying to
keep reinject being Fear

1234
01:53:41,46 --> 01:53:48,20
Uncertainty and Doubt on issues were
it's actually not that. We should have

1235
01:53:48,21 --> 01:53:52,95
a conversation about Chalmette I think
that's a fine conversation when we get

1236
01:53:52,96 --> 01:53:56,30
a conversation I'll be talking to you about
some the economics and what's fair for

1237
01:53:56,31 --> 01:53:59,21
who to pay what and what's
fair for who to get

1238
01:53:59,22 --> 01:54:02,17
a free ride and I don't expect to make

1239
01:54:02,18 --> 01:54:04,20
a lot of friends on some of the
conversation but we'll have

1240
01:54:04,21 --> 01:54:08,64
a conversation that's OK. We we've got

1241
01:54:08,65 --> 01:54:12,52
a whole lot of other neighbors who might
want to be part of the conversation to. So

1242
01:54:13,31 --> 01:54:16,12
you know that mime we all
live here we all have

1243
01:54:16,13 --> 01:54:20,73
a stake in the league trying to run
after somebody expect to run down

1244
01:54:20,77 --> 01:54:25,60
a whole bunch of questions and I want to
make sure that we get. Some of these exams

1245
01:54:25,61 --> 01:54:27,38
or there was

1246
01:54:27,42 --> 01:54:32,39
a question about the eight hundred connection
I think this was on the slide that

1247
01:54:32,40 --> 01:54:37,04
was six hundred something right out
that's under twenty one and what that was

1248
01:54:37,05 --> 01:54:40,61
initially was a projection
of future demand over

1249
01:54:40,62 --> 01:54:47,40
a certain time period based on the demands
of that number connection to pass the

1250
01:54:47,41 --> 01:54:53,83
system that was managed by the way from
done to identify what the needs that next

1251
01:54:54,08 --> 01:55:00,91
from an. About half four for folks like
you about have for the for Growth the

1252
01:55:00,92 --> 01:55:02,96
pen to spend it in the local supplier.

1253
01:55:08,66 --> 01:55:09,70
Will big projects get

1254
01:55:09,71 --> 01:55:16,73
a discount no connection costs
what connections cost some

1255
01:55:17,33 --> 01:55:21,81
for the big projects that
are potential said pension.

1256
01:55:24,91 --> 01:55:29,14
I don't think any of us want to subsidize
anybody else at the moment whether it's

1257
01:55:29,15 --> 01:55:29,65
bigger.

1258
01:55:36,37 --> 01:55:38,12
I'm just trying to get through here

1259
01:55:48,23 --> 01:55:54,48
OK I'm going up contagious comes in general
I think you come. And and Bill right

1260
01:55:54,49 --> 01:55:59,93
after that. All right. I have.

1261
01:56:01,21 --> 01:56:07,83
Not the seventy people came here and
what we're saying basically the same

1262
01:56:07,90 --> 01:56:14,74
name means that we have to your
board is responding to them it's up

1263
01:56:15,18 --> 01:56:19,95
things these issues that you brought
up so the sudden people came here.

1264
01:56:23,84 --> 01:56:24,57
WHO'S A doors for

1265
01:56:24,58 --> 01:56:31,10
a min. With five hundred seventy
people came here the same

1266
01:56:31,11 --> 01:56:37,86
things that we have to spot so so we
have to we can't respond to these issues

1267
01:56:37,87 --> 01:56:39,04
tonight because

1268
01:56:39,05 --> 01:56:45,54
a lot of Gentiles but with that we will be
responding to these things of one issue

1269
01:56:45,55 --> 01:56:46,77
in the hope for

1270
01:56:46,78 --> 01:56:53,54
a future reference. Whether rather
that we will win with again

1271
01:56:53,59 --> 01:56:59,32
if we change the connection fee.
I think it has to be said that.

1272
01:57:00,62 --> 01:57:06,71
I think it would be fairer that the homeowner
should pay for the connection with

1273
01:57:07,19 --> 01:57:12,64
the connection because so it may not be the
fee that we're talking about now we may

1274
01:57:12,65 --> 01:57:19,18
change that fee but the cost for an
action should be should be borne by the

1275
01:57:19,19 --> 01:57:25,45
homeowner we should not should or should
that way and that's obviously what I think

1276
01:57:25,46 --> 01:57:31,75
that that would have to agree with and so
the question would line this during the

1277
01:57:31,76 --> 01:57:32,44
late if there's

1278
01:57:32,45 --> 01:57:39,07
a vote. Or passage where
the pipe the line that the

1279
01:57:39,08 --> 01:57:45,95
final collection he. May be changed so you
know in future discussion which will be

1280
01:57:45,96 --> 01:57:49,72
participating in the
collection fee the final of

1281
01:57:49,73 --> 01:57:56,65
a lot may be changed or it is made maybe
on the be decreased significantly can be

1282
01:57:56,66 --> 01:58:02,87
gotten away with because the homeowner has
to pay for the cost of collection so to

1283
01:58:02,88 --> 01:58:09,38
it we pass this with the collection
collection of is in question

1284
01:58:09,85 --> 01:58:14,56
I think that we can probably this is on the
agenda tonight that would be reasonable

1285
01:58:14,57 --> 01:58:17,58
to pass this now has been

1286
01:58:17,58 --> 01:58:23,87
a lot of time preparing for this I think
it's reasonable to pass this items on the

1287
01:58:23,87 --> 01:58:27,80
agenda is ready with
members. But but it was

1288
01:58:27,81 --> 01:58:31,60
a minute we will have to deal
with future discussions about

1289
01:58:31,61 --> 01:58:37,38
a possible change in the collection of the
other items that every everyone together

1290
01:58:37,43 --> 01:58:43,85
all of you brought up. Thank
you. Pleasure and partly.

1291
01:58:46,42 --> 01:58:53,13
I think one of the same district names to
put on our agenda along with our own well

1292
01:58:53,95 --> 01:58:54,45
is

1293
01:58:54,49 --> 01:59:01,06
a fine us workshop that we videotaped
and put online so people can get

1294
01:59:01,07 --> 01:59:07,07
a deeper understanding of our
finance I read all the letters and.

1295
01:59:09,54 --> 01:59:16,47
There's partial information in many
of them and I think it's incumbent on

1296
01:59:16,48 --> 01:59:22,73
this board and this district to make
sure that the ratepayers and users

1297
01:59:23,37 --> 01:59:28,34
and the Bonheur all understand where
your money go where where the district

1298
01:59:28,35 --> 01:59:34,48
finances come from where the money goes and
what we've been doing what we have done

1299
01:59:34,49 --> 01:59:40,56
to the system in the last since we
took over in two thousand and three.

1300
01:59:41,41 --> 01:59:44,63
Thirteen years fourteen years. Is

1301
01:59:44,73 --> 01:59:50,42
a lot and I think the. People
don't realize it because

1302
01:59:50,43 --> 01:59:53,22
a lot of it is invisible
as I said we've lost

1303
01:59:53,23 --> 01:59:57,07
a whole lot of springs in the middle of
our road because we've replaced the pipe.

1304
01:59:58,31 --> 02:00:04,24
And so we've been able to keep our rate
our rate at this point for some of the

1305
02:00:04,25 --> 02:00:10,55
people who have been subject to the.
Fear of him are lower than any of the

1306
02:00:10,56 --> 02:00:15,44
surrounding districts because we own our
own water supply and we need to be able to

1307
02:00:15,45 --> 02:00:20,89
show you how we have accomplished that and
part of that was accomplished through

1308
02:00:20,90 --> 02:00:23,12
the body and it was to purchase

1309
02:00:23,13 --> 02:00:29,18
a system and make some of the critical
improvements that were needed. Bob Casey

1310
02:00:29,22 --> 02:00:33,45
said with a. Rusty rambler I would call it

1311
02:00:33,46 --> 02:00:36,71
a leaky bucket that was but we were in

1312
02:00:36,72 --> 02:00:43,10
a lot of. Danger for the public
health system unity of the

1313
02:00:43,38 --> 02:00:50,34
people of this district came forward
to approve the bond with eighty three

1314
02:00:50,35 --> 02:00:55,75
percent eighty six percent or eighty two
percent approval but it didn't cover all

1315
02:00:55,76 --> 02:01:00,57
the improvements that had been made so
we've taken loans out and we have to repay

1316
02:01:00,58 --> 02:01:05,33
those loans and we have to do the very
low interest but we still have three D.

1317
02:01:05,34 --> 02:01:11,82
Them and we have made improvements that
have been paid for by the rate money and.

1318
02:01:13,13 --> 02:01:19,17
Then our meter charges which are our how
rating divide is between usage and meters

1319
02:01:19,50 --> 02:01:25,81
but in any event the loans and the
improvements made to the rate money have all

1320
02:01:25,82 --> 02:01:31,62
been paid by the users those are those
are things that we're asking you to

1321
02:01:31,63 --> 02:01:33,95
contribute back in to
they were not covered

1322
02:01:33,96 --> 02:01:40,81
a hundred percent by the bond
money. That. I would I would like

1323
02:01:40,98 --> 02:01:46,87
to encourage our President
you and her and our

1324
02:01:47,44 --> 02:01:50,63
economists our allows you all

1325
02:01:51,06 --> 02:01:56,62
a meeting here talking about our finances
so people understand what's going on

1326
02:01:57,17 --> 02:02:01,02
because I think a lot of people
who are new here and frankly

1327
02:02:01,03 --> 02:02:06,74
a lot of people who just pay their bill are
real they're much really deserve. To be

1328
02:02:07,06 --> 02:02:12,38
in for something good for.
The nation the thing.

1329
02:02:18,25 --> 02:02:23,71
I'm like yeah right I want to keep nothing
else and if we could you know why don't

1330
02:02:23,72 --> 02:02:28,60
you go in this novel. Theory

1331
02:02:31,92 --> 02:02:36,67
because I was you can't you're going.

1332
02:02:41,44 --> 02:02:47,20
To put down your own game of the mind
right now it looks just like the.

1333
02:02:48,78 --> 02:02:55,09
Right. No go ahead we'll.
Fight it out sure.

1334
02:02:59,47 --> 02:03:06,13
They'll you're OK now yes go ahead
I'm. Sorry I must say however.

1335
02:03:08,07 --> 02:03:13,56
I'm right by our count our.

1336
02:03:17,15 --> 02:03:22,42
Members are very very closely
to what you have to say.

1337
02:03:23,99 --> 02:03:30,69
I offer this so I'll just state. That I

1338
02:03:30,96 --> 02:03:37,47
don't think. We are one of

1339
02:03:38,46 --> 02:03:44,85
our system. Right Ali why.

1340
02:03:48,09 --> 02:03:53,14
For the time the time. After time
the expectation was that one.

1341
02:03:55,12 --> 02:04:01,72
Would be able to. Work
out. At the price we have.

1342
02:04:03,51 --> 02:04:07,70
To. Purchase.

1343
02:04:11,54 --> 02:04:17,67
Existing property owners whether
connected to. The general public.

1344
02:04:22,47 --> 02:04:28,92
Are regulated by the county.
Planning building construction

1345
02:04:29,45 --> 02:04:35,61
project or prison the county. Planning

1346
02:04:36,10 --> 02:04:40,51
Department. Not.

1347
02:04:43,42 --> 02:04:49,62
See this makes regulations.
Related to that. Question.

1348
02:04:51,28 --> 02:04:58,12
That is made by the county.
Connection to the. Building permit

1349
02:04:58,13 --> 02:05:02,91
from the county. The county.

1350
02:05:06,05 --> 02:05:06,46
Is not.

1351
02:05:19,38 --> 02:05:26,15
Willing to. Pay for the
property to connect to this is.

1352
02:05:31,31 --> 02:05:37,66
Dated. Number two the
justification for assessing.

1353
02:05:39,42 --> 02:05:44,05
The. It's not just

1354
02:05:44,06 --> 02:05:50,33
a fight for domestic. On
the property. Of the time

1355
02:05:51,13 --> 02:05:57,62
the private utilities. On exactly
the thing. That just went

1356
02:05:58,36 --> 02:06:03,83
to the. Property is therefore my position.

1357
02:06:07,17 --> 02:06:13,98
On the property the.
Next house was about to.

1358
02:06:15,03 --> 02:06:21,46
Be treated different from. A lot more
commercial property with regards to our

1359
02:06:21,62 --> 02:06:27,98
county. Because the county already.

1360
02:06:30,29 --> 02:06:36,12
Conforms to standard.
Plan review process is

1361
02:06:36,13 --> 02:06:42,93
a duplicate. The requirement. To

1362
02:06:42,94 --> 02:06:44,35
plan for

1363
02:06:44,36 --> 02:06:50,41
a fee to be assessed based on time should
be eliminated because the county already

1364
02:06:50,42 --> 02:06:54,83
requires. Two buildings.

1365
02:07:01,07 --> 02:07:06,50
Associated with. Today's weekly.

1366
02:07:10,05 --> 02:07:15,08
Relief among the little bit of fun because
I don't think. The distributed free

1367
02:07:15,09 --> 02:07:22,09
through the language of the
domestic. Property to the

1368
02:07:22,48 --> 02:07:27,63
State of the district with. Me.

1369
02:07:31,20 --> 02:07:37,67
To do this within two
hundred fifty. Issue.

1370
02:07:41,98 --> 02:07:46,13
Thank you. First what.

1371
02:07:52,43 --> 02:07:58,38
I. Are. John.

1372
02:08:03,59 --> 02:08:07,51
And I. OK So

1373
02:08:08,10 --> 02:08:14,80
a couple things One I think with. You know
I would it's right now to the board I'm

1374
02:08:14,81 --> 02:08:21,37
going to keep it up here. Whether. That was
Bill Huber our board member I'm sorry I

1375
02:08:21,38 --> 02:08:26,86
apologize but I didn't hear that. The
that this couple that I know there's

1376
02:08:26,87 --> 02:08:30,47
a clarification we're going to need
from you from the attorney here in just

1377
02:08:30,48 --> 02:08:34,66
a second at the South Bay We got to show
that there is consensus right now that we

1378
02:08:34,67 --> 02:08:35,52
need to have

1379
02:08:35,53 --> 02:08:41,07
a work study or equivocal to address the
issues raised from the structures and how

1380
02:08:41,08 --> 02:08:45,96
to make it easier on wells and also deal
with the complexity of the system who

1381
02:08:45,97 --> 02:08:49,78
bears the burden of maintaining the system
post going forward and all that so I

1382
02:08:49,79 --> 02:08:53,42
think we're all in consensus we're going
to speak we're going to step up so we've

1383
02:08:53,43 --> 02:08:59,62
heard that the agenda tonight all only
allows us to to address the financing issue

1384
02:08:59,63 --> 02:09:02,81
and that's all will be voting on. There's

1385
02:09:02,82 --> 02:09:07,63
a question I think we should ask if you
don't mind I'm an attorney standpoint the

1386
02:09:07,64 --> 02:09:14,01
word shoutin me in the question before
us is one what is the difference

1387
02:09:14,30 --> 02:09:20,41
in what is within our in our board in
two two two two terms as we go forward.

1388
02:09:21,56 --> 02:09:27,73
Well the language or course in the District
Code. Is mandatory with respect to in

1389
02:09:27,74 --> 02:09:31,08
a general sense but they are boarded up

1390
02:09:31,09 --> 02:09:35,26
a resolution that interprets that places

1391
02:09:35,27 --> 02:09:40,36
a cross on that language which
actually is consistent with the L.C.P.

1392
02:09:40,37 --> 02:09:47,18
Would say that. The connections are carbon
in conjunction with the issuance of

1393
02:09:47,19 --> 02:09:53,44
building permits by the county to county
the county permit calls for fifty percent

1394
02:09:53,45 --> 02:09:59,88
or more valued remodeling then that
does turn back their connections

1395
02:10:01,40 --> 02:10:05,62
so are you saying that somebody was we have
this discussion with the child word up

1396
02:10:05,63 --> 02:10:11,40
until the Tippit percent increase in
value. If we choose to go that route

1397
02:10:13,61 --> 02:10:20,54
well. The discussion the concept. You're

1398
02:10:20,55 --> 02:10:25,24
very cogent is more easily Shakhtar Tory
interpretation is concerned the board can

1399
02:10:25,25 --> 02:10:31,19
consider amending the code.
To consider adopting

1400
02:10:31,20 --> 02:10:37,37
a policy. The board has authority under the
water code and actually cover coverage

1401
02:10:37,38 --> 02:10:43,84
well to to mandate these. Connections

1402
02:10:44,40 --> 02:10:49,89
and the connection to the monetary and the

1403
02:10:50,53 --> 02:10:56,33
implementation phase is governed very
strictly by the government code and there's

1404
02:10:56,53 --> 02:10:58,38
an issue and or not must be

1405
02:10:58,39 --> 02:11:04,50
a fee. Revenues must be
accounted for. Very.

1406
02:11:07,16 --> 02:11:14,08
Correct. Its record and your
body to the. Improvements that

1407
02:11:14,09 --> 02:11:18,43
address the demand on the system
created by the new connections.

1408
02:11:21,78 --> 02:11:27,32
The question from the board I'm from
you're there because you. Did you need one

1409
02:11:27,33 --> 02:11:34,24
more time. Can you summarize the
shallow and do it kind of board

1410
02:11:34,72 --> 02:11:41,14
came aboard and said human men like
Mitchell shall not argue don't take into

1411
02:11:41,15 --> 02:11:46,46
consideration the adoption is Lucian that
is mandatory the boy has it thirty two X.

1412
02:11:46,62 --> 02:11:49,26
Two an act that kind of requirement

1413
02:11:49,71 --> 02:11:56,13
a new the water code. Which
authorizes running the enactment of

1414
02:11:56,14 --> 02:12:01,52
regulations for the system and that's
based on public health and welfare in

1415
02:12:01,53 --> 02:12:07,21
Mississippi so you're saying the board
can can make it voluntary or not yes you

1416
02:12:07,22 --> 02:12:09,82
have the poor have the
board can change it but.

1417
02:12:15,31 --> 02:12:20,50
That's what it does show that
no that's and that's true. Yet.

1418
02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:24,55
When you take

1419
02:12:24,56 --> 02:12:30,14
a look at her they've maybe you know off
the top your head in the Public Works plan

1420
02:12:31,09 --> 02:12:32,22
has the coast Commission put

1421
02:12:32,23 --> 02:12:38,86
a restriction on us their. Need
in the. Language in the code

1422
02:12:38,87 --> 02:12:44,94
doesn't factor reflect the public works
plan one in particular with respect to the

1423
02:12:45,37 --> 02:12:50,51
reference urban area topic which plan does
restrict connections to the urban areas

1424
02:12:50,51 --> 02:12:57,48
. But the. The Coastal Commission
and the county both used to

1425
02:12:57,49 --> 02:13:00,05
require up the county had

1426
02:13:00,06 --> 02:13:06,23
a farmer the perspective on construction I
found some historical stuff from want to

1427
02:13:06,24 --> 02:13:12,47
go to where you know predict Britain if
somebody permanent apartments was with the

1428
02:13:12,48 --> 02:13:17,51
original when waters available you're going
to hook up. I mean there's and I'm it's

1429
02:13:17,52 --> 02:13:21,75
in the sun next door look at my face
when I say this because we see it in

1430
02:13:22,04 --> 02:13:25,99
typewritten form you don't know anything
about what's on the Facebook. There's

1431
02:13:26,00 --> 02:13:31,58
a there's what's written down there is
what we're doing is policy and right now

1432
02:13:31,59 --> 02:13:36,68
Clemens has no direction from this board
or no new ordinance or regulations that

1433
02:13:36,69 --> 02:13:42,73
say go make people connect and I think
what you know the way they've been talking

1434
02:13:42,74 --> 02:13:47,50
about it what I'm thinking is we
could probably assert as a board

1435
02:13:47,51 --> 02:13:54,37
a policy that says that's not a policy
and if there's ever going to be

1436
02:13:54,38 --> 02:13:58,28
a policy it's going to have to be agenda
in the regulation it's going to have to be

1437
02:13:58,29 --> 02:14:01,81
passed by the board in the community is
going to have an opportunity to weigh in

1438
02:14:02,09 --> 02:14:05,87
before that policy changes I think
a lot of concern and heard from

1439
02:14:05,88 --> 02:14:08,45
a lot of people on our
series Ben about well it's

1440
02:14:08,46 --> 02:14:11,91
a start changing that any given day
to just be could wake up and also

1441
02:14:11,92 --> 02:14:16,18
a new doing like well OK one that's
not how an agency like this works.

1442
02:14:18,82 --> 02:14:22,83
But I mean we can actually say here's
going to be our profiteers going to our

1443
02:14:22,84 --> 02:14:26,80
staffs if we were ever going to do it and
we'd be making a commitment and I think

1444
02:14:26,81 --> 02:14:31,28
a lot of people appreciate having some
idea about what that would look like mean

1445
02:14:31,29 --> 02:14:36,83
for us but we've been talking about her
thirteen years since we since we managed to

1446
02:14:36,84 --> 02:14:41,32
help the community take over the water
system is like you know what can we do to

1447
02:14:41,70 --> 02:14:45,43
solve the moratorium then what can we do
to help people get on the water system

1448
02:14:45,58 --> 02:14:50,15
that want to and then you know people are
going to want to it's very degrees all

1449
02:14:50,16 --> 02:14:53,01
the way from please please
please all the way to

1450
02:14:53,25 --> 02:14:59,57
a remark all that bottom right and everything
in between right sure. And I think we

1451
02:14:59,58 --> 02:14:59,92
heard

1452
02:15:00,32 --> 02:15:07,28
a fair range of that expressed tonight.
That's all right because we're not coming

1453
02:15:07,29 --> 02:15:12,35
here to you know take away your stuff
honestly it's it's. I shouldn't be surprised

1454
02:15:12,36 --> 02:15:17,71
but here we thought we were doing this nice
thing to help people get financing and

1455
02:15:18,19 --> 02:15:18,95
it disturb

1456
02:15:18,96 --> 02:15:23,47
a lot of stuff that has been going on
unspoken undiscussed for years so it's really

1457
02:15:23,48 --> 02:15:24,36
good was opened up like

1458
02:15:24,37 --> 02:15:30,12
a conversation I'd like to I'd like to
doublecheck make sure that when we talk

1459
02:15:30,13 --> 02:15:35,74
about you know we have the discretion to
change that word. That we look hard at the

1460
02:15:35,75 --> 02:15:39,16
county regulations and the consequence
regulations to make sure there's no

1461
02:15:39,17 --> 02:15:43,46
overarching thing because if we've
got that law to then that's

1462
02:15:43,47 --> 02:15:44,18
a good thing to have

1463
02:15:44,19 --> 02:15:48,94
a lot of so we can talk about it and go
through the process A Did you look at the

1464
02:15:49,42 --> 02:15:56,03
counties resolution got nine hundred nine
and occur now seeping and residual doubt

1465
02:15:56,04 --> 02:15:59,72
in the shape interpretation in
your code they're all consistent

1466
02:16:05,43 --> 02:16:11,81
you know. The importance
of the clear between three

1467
02:16:11,82 --> 02:16:17,26
document is required or plainly in.

1468
02:16:22,96 --> 02:16:27,69
The present moment code
mandatory my second choice.

1469
02:16:30,94 --> 02:16:37,22
Can only be considered. Can we
meet. With the Public Works well

1470
02:16:37,74 --> 02:16:38,79
with the L.C.P.

1471
02:16:39,68 --> 02:16:44,23
Not necessarily No I don't think it would
be inclusive of that were planned it

1472
02:16:44,24 --> 02:16:45,100
would change in language it's more

1473
02:16:46,01 --> 02:16:52,45
a matter of. Expressing the conditions
upon which connect connection shall choir.

1474
02:16:53,52 --> 02:16:58,35
And then that's. Governed by the L.C.P.

1475
02:16:59,19 --> 02:17:05,58
And and the Pope and we're
trying to assure extent to the.

1476
02:17:07,79 --> 02:17:13,60
Local Council program and the county
resolution which is actually now to me to

1477
02:17:13,61 --> 02:17:19,28
father the oceans he speaks in
terms of the good of of county

1478
02:17:20,20 --> 02:17:26,58
permits. Which is all the
counties jurisdiction. And in as

1479
02:17:26,59 --> 02:17:33,22
context with respect to manage your
connections may speak to the monsters value

1480
02:17:33,29 --> 02:17:40,01
fifty percent. Yoko does not make that
distinction you could if you wanted

1481
02:17:40,02 --> 02:17:45,46
to change it so it sounds like to me that
we have some discretion in that we are

1482
02:17:45,47 --> 02:17:50,73
all agreement that will look going into
work study kind of format in the future and

1483
02:17:50,74 --> 02:17:54,38
my recommendation for that portion of the
discussion is that we Gentiles had the

1484
02:17:54,39 --> 02:17:59,18
next board meeting for our going to carry
that out and that board meeting will be

1485
02:17:59,19 --> 02:18:02,73
on February second. Anyway
I think you're hearing

1486
02:18:02,74 --> 02:18:04,49
a commitment from us
that we wish to engage

1487
02:18:04,50 --> 02:18:09,42
a committee on this topic and we can
answer the question from a step from

1488
02:18:09,43 --> 02:18:13,94
a policy standpoint that is not within what
we can do that might not now leaves us

1489
02:18:13,95 --> 02:18:20,56
with the one in. Languages like the

1490
02:18:20,57 --> 02:18:26,27
financing that is before us and I what I
would live request that the board is to

1491
02:18:26,28 --> 02:18:28,60
decide how we wish to address that we need

1492
02:18:28,61 --> 02:18:32,75
a motion if we wish to proceed on that
so I would recommend that if we wish to

1493
02:18:32,76 --> 02:18:33,81
proceed on that that we have

1494
02:18:33,82 --> 02:18:40,07
a motion of the second of the discuss
potions. With the understanding that there is

1495
02:18:40,08 --> 02:18:46,27
nothing about this that is in any way
mandatory if they strictly volunteer program

1496
02:18:46,28 --> 02:18:52,89
and have no barrier consequence on whether
or not someone thousands of not just

1497
02:18:52,90 --> 02:18:56,98
climbed up. I should actually have

1498
02:18:56,99 --> 02:19:03,35
a problem but. That's another story but.

1499
02:19:09,15 --> 02:19:16,05
Please read my words I'm sorry
I must be free of all and I

1500
02:19:16,06 --> 02:19:19,30
don't like this. But there's

1501
02:19:19,31 --> 02:19:24,12
a conclusion. I've got. Some.

1502
02:19:31,25 --> 02:19:35,53
OK I move that we adopt the warmest looks
and words or thoughts of the Montero

1503
02:19:35,54 --> 02:19:40,34
modern senator just adding Section five
dash three tough one over for the monster

1504
02:19:40,35 --> 02:19:44,77
water and Senator District Code relating
to the conversion of private well water

1505
02:19:44,78 --> 02:19:48,45
sources to the district's water
system and I state this is

1506
02:19:48,46 --> 02:19:53,60
a profit I'm handsome strictly
voluntary that's my money.

1507
02:19:55,35 --> 02:19:55,88
There is like

1508
02:19:55,89 --> 02:20:02,76
a. Second fucking discussion.
And I think some more I

1509
02:20:02,77 --> 02:20:08,02
think that I want to make the point.
That if we pass this this financing.

1510
02:20:10,25 --> 02:20:17,01
A motion tonight. It doesn't mean that the
fee schedule can't you can't be changed

1511
02:20:17,02 --> 02:20:22,38
if you schedule it will be discussing may
be changed but I think this this is on

1512
02:20:22,39 --> 02:20:27,48
the agenda that we should pass just after.

1513
02:20:32,07 --> 02:20:37,81
My second opportunity for somebody
you know just by yourself.

1514
02:20:39,48 --> 02:20:45,76
To say basements you know your value
or is your structure is going.

1515
02:20:47,78 --> 02:20:53,47
To tell you. Will cost more in the future
with Play sure that everything else this

1516
02:20:53,48 --> 02:20:59,94
is the fire sale sale. Or
cost health related or the.

1517
02:21:01,30 --> 02:21:08,14
Standard practice. So.
For those of you who

1518
02:21:08,15 --> 02:21:14,95
are in the urban area.
Just look at it seriously

1519
02:21:15,29 --> 02:21:21,35
you're not of the urban area. But. It's

1520
02:21:22,34 --> 02:21:27,83
you know. It's a bargain right down to

1521
02:21:27,84 --> 02:21:32,31
a lack of water hard. To get

1522
02:21:32,32 --> 02:21:39,27
a. Permit from somebody who might
want to say there are about fifty

1523
02:21:39,48 --> 02:21:45,79
thousand. That. Meant. That.

1524
02:21:46,83 --> 02:21:53,49
If. You. Are you.

1525
02:21:54,89 --> 02:22:01,38
Seriously are going to keep
improving and we're going to make

1526
02:22:01,78 --> 02:22:04,67
the. Other shiny ramp

1527
02:22:08,50 --> 02:22:13,51
something useful like real now.

1528
02:22:22,09 --> 02:22:28,87
I. Put. It In The other

1529
02:22:28,93 --> 02:22:35,37
issue. Really. This issue I think. Like

1530
02:22:35,38 --> 02:22:40,56
together. Quite.

1531
02:22:42,99 --> 02:22:48,34
Well. Water connection.

1532
02:22:54,66 --> 02:22:59,89
So I really just. In my position I'm

1533
02:22:59,90 --> 02:23:04,96
a little nervous about this only because
I knew I think the only risk for putting

1534
02:23:04,97 --> 02:23:11,01
yourself down. Was someone financing this
new rechange arrangement down the line

1535
02:23:11,20 --> 02:23:17,22
you know the route that you must pay in
the morning. However I think we could

1536
02:23:17,23 --> 02:23:23,30
address that by no. If you do make any
adjustments in individual sign up and begin

1537
02:23:23,31 --> 02:23:27,14
a new account here we can talk if we go
back to longs with the understanding that

1538
02:23:27,15 --> 02:23:32,66
if we do change rate was individuals to
take advantage of this early in the range

1539
02:23:32,67 --> 02:23:38,96
changes. In the next few months that we
take into consideration I am OK with going

1540
02:23:38,97 --> 02:23:44,59
for a misprint I should point out on
the your news before you for it as

1541
02:23:44,60 --> 02:23:50,48
a data. On the. It was really.

1542
02:23:52,47 --> 02:23:59,31
Rich we just heard what was said yes
that the interest rate go to two

1543
02:23:59,32 --> 02:24:03,79
percent after the first of the year this
year but my concern is that we make

1544
02:24:03,80 --> 02:24:10,17
adjustments in the home is salacious these
are our we call it an individual signed

1545
02:24:10,18 --> 02:24:16,87
up for that happened this year and I would
suggest. That it's all gone record that

1546
02:24:17,25 --> 02:24:20,02
and much of it for the
discussion will call for

1547
02:24:20,03 --> 02:24:26,77
a vote because. We have to
do this by Roll Call on them

1548
02:24:26,82 --> 02:24:33,61
directors later Carter I Director
Harvey. Director boy. Director Wilson.

1549
02:24:34,70 --> 02:24:41,32
And director Uber. What can

1550
02:24:41,55 --> 02:24:46,41
you repeat. With we got it mixed

1551
02:24:46,42 --> 02:24:51,30
a lot more yeses and one apps are saying
we want to thank you all very much for

1552
02:24:51,31 --> 02:24:51,73
this

1553
02:24:51,74 --> 02:24:56,100
a handout Oh no I'm not releasing folks I'm
just part of this discussion and we have

1554
02:24:57,01 --> 02:25:01,27
no idea if you're the next guy the next
time you're not going to believe now either

1555
02:25:01,28 --> 02:25:06,65
the surge it is good news that the
garbage production. Oh him in

1556
02:25:06,66 --> 02:25:11,07
a break two minutes is one in twenty
seconds producing the garbage free.

1557
02:25:13,78 --> 02:25:18,72
Like cats. Thank you.

1558
02:25:20,75 --> 02:25:24,07
All. Right Thank you Colleen.

1559
02:25:28,86 --> 02:25:34,91
I think right now it probably. Just didn't
write your story I'm sure all of Mike's

1560
02:25:35,78 --> 02:25:42,69
skills sort of his work was current There
is nothing better how can I thank him.

1561
02:25:44,05 --> 02:25:45,52
I finally just think I'm going to.

1562
02:25:52,40 --> 02:25:58,61
Take it. All right so we have

1563
02:25:58,62 --> 02:26:04,72
a second public hearing tonight and that
is the reviewer possible action concerning

1564
02:26:04,84 --> 02:26:11,38
adoption by my good will to reduce salt
wait wait wait by three point five six.

1565
02:26:12,69 --> 02:26:13,98
So yes just is

1566
02:26:14,03 --> 02:26:20,03
a reduction operate and production
rate is on the seriously.

1567
02:26:21,47 --> 02:26:28,33
Through the decrease in cost of fuel
lease cost and disposal these were

1568
02:26:28,34 --> 02:26:35,29
recalled you know the coast and we have
an agreed upon rate formula and that.

1569
02:26:36,38 --> 02:26:36,95
Results in

1570
02:26:36,96 --> 02:26:43,73
a decrease of three point five
percent So we normally eat what goes

1571
02:26:43,77 --> 02:26:49,67
into our master schedule rates
are affected generally one sort

1572
02:26:49,68 --> 02:26:56,59
retroactively because you already
charge for lower rates so we have

1573
02:26:56,60 --> 02:27:01,50
to do the formal action on getting that
into the master schedule by opening the

1574
02:27:01,51 --> 02:27:05,82
public hearing considering the relevant
public offering testimony closing the

1575
02:27:05,83 --> 02:27:10,97
public hearing and talking ordinance of
the Montreal water senator Senator your

1576
02:27:11,07 --> 02:27:17,40
district restating and indeed
master. OK so I'm going to open up

1577
02:27:17,41 --> 02:27:21,45
a public hearing and I know only think
that you are going to talk tough

1578
02:27:24,56 --> 02:27:31,07
Why are. You so I guess you really
do have to put yourself into the mob

1579
02:27:32,49 --> 02:27:39,43
just can anybody nothing really so we
can. Play up the way in the back. There

1580
02:27:39,44 --> 02:27:45,97
to talk to God So I hear. You're
trying to settle this year

1581
02:27:46,39 --> 02:27:52,89
because I like that word. You being

1582
02:27:53,58 --> 02:27:54,84
with us

1583
02:28:04,90 --> 02:28:10,37
for over fifty years we have had
crashed from one of our homes

1584
02:28:11,99 --> 02:28:17,38
we have breasts we have
partial numbers we get.

1585
02:28:18,60 --> 02:28:25,54
Pre-tax deals with on
your century on it. Now

1586
02:28:25,55 --> 02:28:27,39
delivered to our homes P.G.

1587
02:28:27,40 --> 02:28:31,45
He can illustrate but because
he thinks that we should have

1588
02:28:31,46 --> 02:28:35,58
a dumpster front of our clubhouse that
everybody throws trash in there that we're

1589
02:28:35,59 --> 02:28:42,47
really supporting right direction great
really supportive efforts to get research

1590
02:28:43,17 --> 02:28:49,75
are playing two or three ways or she
does surest sign Can we afford to have

1591
02:28:50,13 --> 02:28:56,56
to do and we actually succeeded can
and help me that when she and one can

1592
02:28:57,54 --> 02:29:03,38
start to believe the story giving us these
services and going on for six years and

1593
02:29:03,99 --> 02:29:10,95
beginning of twenty six teeth we gave up
and we said OK Hilary do some buildings

1594
02:29:11,12 --> 02:29:18,02
just measure the one. Everybody. We
police still keep our services and they

1595
02:29:18,03 --> 02:29:23,05
said no no commercials can't have to
do a show canvass and I said no wait

1596
02:29:23,06 --> 02:29:24,58
a minute now see we have

1597
02:29:24,59 --> 02:29:28,90
a management company in Southern California
they don't know the history they're not

1598
02:29:28,91 --> 02:29:35,49
here and they were usually bowled over I
think you may understand I'm talking about

1599
02:29:35,83 --> 02:29:42,72
and so we were able to retain it requires
we got from you last see her side OK I

1600
02:29:42,73 --> 02:29:49,71
have to go and if we do you
got for Christmas trees. So I

1601
02:29:49,72 --> 02:29:54,44
see you know I got there just huge and I
look at all the things are included in the

1602
02:29:54,45 --> 02:30:01,05
survey and we pay the same rate as everybody
else for our service and we provide

1603
02:30:01,11 --> 02:30:07,84
a bit of some of the billing all of
this for college and yet they will

1604
02:30:07,94 --> 02:30:13,08
give us the surface and everybody else gets
and when I say we need some billing we

1605
02:30:13,88 --> 02:30:14,76
can find

1606
02:30:15,45 --> 02:30:21,74
a way we maintain our residence hall the
simple question first thing we knew when

1607
02:30:21,75 --> 02:30:26,90
he answered the phone is what Travis and
it is if you live here they see you're not

1608
02:30:27,03 --> 02:30:33,89
costumer you have to talk to. Find resident
managers who need to go this route and

1609
02:30:33,90 --> 02:30:38,80
help but they have no leverage because he
they can't get you know so it's difficult

1610
02:30:38,81 --> 02:30:44,72
but at the very end can you do something
to restore our bulky item curbside you got

1611
02:30:45,36 --> 02:30:51,04
Harkness. They're.

1612
02:30:52,44 --> 02:30:53,77
Recycling one way.

1613
02:31:01,02 --> 02:31:02,69
Or. You know

1614
02:31:02,70 --> 02:31:09,44
a great week earlier. This week
we just heard some things I

1615
02:31:09,45 --> 02:31:14,43
think are just so what we will sit down
with you next week and start the process of

1616
02:31:14,44 --> 02:31:18,23
trying to get that service back to that's
our commitment to human and then to the.

1617
02:31:19,54 --> 02:31:26,30
Company here I've been brought
here. It is somewhere where we

1618
02:31:26,40 --> 02:31:32,46
are getting my hair done here about it
maybe we can get there so let's let let's

1619
02:31:32,47 --> 02:31:36,06
talk Catherine in the audience and climb
in tell trying to get the services back

1620
02:31:36,07 --> 02:31:42,11
and you haven't heard as our goal. And
that when we were watching the board Well

1621
02:31:43,06 --> 02:31:45,26
that's all we can do tonight police got

1622
02:31:45,27 --> 02:31:51,57
a commitment from us to work with that to
you say thank you for letting. Them know

1623
02:31:51,58 --> 02:31:58,17
where I can hear you know
and I know who. You are.

1624
02:32:00,59 --> 02:32:07,09
When you learn how to hear.
I appreciate what I.

1625
02:32:09,66 --> 02:32:13,13
Don't have the strength. I agree.

1626
02:32:18,69 --> 02:32:25,41
I'd like to. Meet Your tonight. And

1627
02:32:25,42 --> 02:32:32,38
before we do can we have it roll call please.
Directors later Arthur. RICHTER our.

1628
02:32:33,61 --> 02:32:39,05
Director boy here Richard little
sincere and director you.

1629
02:32:41,91 --> 02:32:48,88
Were to disappear along. First of all
I want to welcome you all here I'm

1630
02:32:48,89 --> 02:32:52,20
sure many of you this was not
your enter into a place to be on

1631
02:32:52,21 --> 02:32:58,05
a. Thursday night but we really appreciate
you coming tonight and we are going to

1632
02:32:58,06 --> 02:33:04,50
welcome your comments as I know many of you
have concerns and it rings tonight. So

1633
02:33:04,54 --> 02:33:06,63
that will be in the president's
statement and in just

1634
02:33:06,64 --> 02:33:11,41
a few more minutes what I'll talk about
the process. So the thing I'd like to do

1635
02:33:11,42 --> 02:33:18,20
right now if any of you have comments on
issues that are not on the agenda. It's

1636
02:33:18,27 --> 02:33:23,00
become for it have to be not on anybody
want to speak to I am not on the agenda

1637
02:33:25,70 --> 02:33:32,65
I guess not procedure issue for
those who wish to speak. I

1638
02:33:32,66 --> 02:33:37,23
am requesting that you all who want to
speak is that kind of Bluey BREAM sheet of

1639
02:33:37,24 --> 02:33:42,45
paper right there it is really really
important to have to fill that out prior to

1640
02:33:42,46 --> 02:33:46,84
speaking so about we can acknowledge you
and also that that we could call you as it

1641
02:33:46,85 --> 02:33:53,40
were that this stuff had
come up OK I've heard

1642
02:33:53,41 --> 02:33:54,65
nothing on or

1643
02:33:54,66 --> 02:34:00,31
a comment that's not on the agenda and we
have to public hearings tonight. And one

1644
02:34:00,32 --> 02:34:05,37
of the most to be here tonight is review
meant possible action concerning MOTOS

1645
02:34:05,49 --> 02:34:11,56
your water connection the payment program.
So what I'd like to do tonight is we're

1646
02:34:11,57 --> 02:34:11,99
going to have

1647
02:34:12,00 --> 02:34:17,02
a staff presentation put by climate it
will take approximately thirty minutes and

1648
02:34:17,03 --> 02:34:20,69
they're going to he's going to explain I
think hopefully will answer some of the

1649
02:34:20,70 --> 02:34:25,21
questions have been raised by many of you
on the theory of the news that you have

1650
02:34:25,22 --> 02:34:31,59
used and once Clemens and his staff have
done their presentation I would like to

1651
02:34:31,60 --> 02:34:36,02
bring it back to the board to set the
procedure for public comment we wish all of

1652
02:34:36,03 --> 02:34:40,00
you need to protect me that you wish but
I want to do it in a way that allows

1653
02:34:40,01 --> 02:34:44,41
a kind of an orderly process so everyone
can be heard so we're bringing back to the

1654
02:34:44,42 --> 02:34:49,24
board for the procedure process once
that's been established and we will have

1655
02:34:49,83 --> 02:34:54,55
comments from you all as long as many as
you wish and they will being bring back

1656
02:34:54,56 --> 02:34:59,05
the discussion back to the player so
with that in mind I'd like to introduce

1657
02:34:59,06 --> 02:35:03,26
Clemens to my left and have them take over
the discussion before you go on right

1658
02:35:03,51 --> 02:35:10,45
now I asked you through the chair when you
when you made up and your cards. When

1659
02:35:10,46 --> 02:35:15,81
you come they made your comments if you
like leave your name and phone number or

1660
02:35:15,82 --> 02:35:21,44
contact information if you like so
we can contact you individually.

1661
02:35:22,79 --> 02:35:29,62
Later on so. Yes And we'll have the
most and we will reiterate that at the

1662
02:35:29,63 --> 02:35:35,90
time when the public comment was Well
thanks to you OK. All right if you'd like

1663
02:35:36,10 --> 02:35:42,31
on my first things you'll actually through
the ridge community for hosting us right

1664
02:35:42,31 --> 02:35:49,05
. Now I thought first I'm going to make of

1665
02:35:49,57 --> 02:35:54,39
presentation us. All to
your water and it should be

1666
02:35:54,68 --> 02:36:01,48
a program hopefully answer any questions.
And. I'll extend theirs is here

1667
02:36:01,49 --> 02:36:08,02
with us from Arnold
financial. Help us. On this

1668
02:36:08,48 --> 02:36:14,20
proposal. So let's start
right in front where we have

1669
02:36:14,21 --> 02:36:20,66
a white Christmas where the
lights on so just one by one OK

1670
02:36:21,25 --> 02:36:26,16
thank you I spare you the first slide
because really what we're going over.

1671
02:36:28,19 --> 02:36:33,79
So the first person really. Is.

1672
02:36:35,12 --> 02:36:41,98
The light. For the first first
thing that we would. Love

1673
02:36:41,99 --> 02:36:48,49
OK. All right is that now what.
Is that better now anyway head

1674
02:36:48,50 --> 02:36:55,27
perfect All right so first of all
let's go over brief history of

1675
02:36:55,43 --> 02:37:01,23
how we ended up here I know many in this
room probably dispensed entire night

1676
02:37:01,24 --> 02:37:06,21
talking about what happened here before we
try to keep it very short and very brief

1677
02:37:06,25 --> 02:37:13,07
and focused on this policy so early
in the eight nine hundred eighty

1678
02:37:13,08 --> 02:37:13,48
S.

1679
02:37:14,15 --> 02:37:20,76
Around nine hundred eighty two ish it became
very evident that the citizens utilities

1680
02:37:20,77 --> 02:37:21,02
that's

1681
02:37:21,03 --> 02:37:27,34
a privately owned utility company that
manages the water system here own and manage

1682
02:37:27,35 --> 02:37:34,06
the water system. Was not able to provide
enough water for the residents in one her

1683
02:37:34,07 --> 02:37:40,37
last speech there was solid voluntary
on off situation of Mar tar and they'd

1684
02:37:40,38 --> 02:37:45,23
sometimes allow calls going on sometimes
not in one nine hundred eighty six this

1685
02:37:45,24 --> 02:37:50,04
was almost all by California Public
Utilities Commission that's the agency that

1686
02:37:50,13 --> 02:37:56,22
regulates private facility companies
they came down and Citizens Utility them

1687
02:37:56,23 --> 02:37:57,22
mandated

1688
02:37:57,66 --> 02:38:03,52
a moratorium on new connections and that
is really the beginning of the story.

1689
02:38:05,41 --> 02:38:11,38
Nothing changed over many many
decades years and really decades of

1690
02:38:11,78 --> 02:38:18,64
citizens was sold. To Cal
American tell America it was sold

1691
02:38:18,77 --> 02:38:25,28
to other American Water. And
then it was sold to our W E E

1692
02:38:25,62 --> 02:38:26,04
saw

1693
02:38:26,05 --> 02:38:33,15
a change in ownership is no improvements
were made offer over the decades and

1694
02:38:34,02 --> 02:38:40,03
until the district acquired the
system in two thousand and three and.

1695
02:38:41,32 --> 02:38:45,94
In two thousand and three of course the
situation was the same and nothing would

1696
02:38:45,95 --> 02:38:51,96
change the system was in dire need for
repairs banks were still running dry not

1697
02:38:51,97 --> 02:38:58,78
enough water in this community so the
more Tory M was continued until such time

1698
02:38:58,85 --> 02:39:04,80
so the community was able to secure new
sources was able to resolve the water

1699
02:39:04,81 --> 02:39:11,77
crisis and that's really what
this district focused on in

1700
02:39:11,78 --> 02:39:17,60
the years two thousand and three through
two thousand and. Ten in two thousand and

1701
02:39:17,61 --> 02:39:20,78
eleven we actually produced

1702
02:39:20,79 --> 02:39:27,58
a master plan update that really showed
that we can start thinking about repeal of

1703
02:39:27,59 --> 02:39:34,57
the mark Torey. Before that in two
thousand and nine. The California Coastal

1704
02:39:34,58 --> 02:39:39,34
Commission really regulated our ability
to make connections with the water system

1705
02:39:39,44 --> 02:39:45,50
saw in two thousand and nine we went to the
California Coastal Commission with what

1706
02:39:45,51 --> 02:39:52,41
is called the Public Works plan that
allows us and allows us to make the

1707
02:39:52,42 --> 02:39:58,04
necessary for structure improvements
to the water this. It's it's a. It's

1708
02:39:58,05 --> 02:40:01,59
a and specially a large permit or

1709
02:40:01,73 --> 02:40:07,77
a plan in the sense of.
Developing my own look.

1710
02:40:09,00 --> 02:40:14,20
In two thousand and nine in this public
works fine there was the language

1711
02:40:14,43 --> 02:40:15,60
introduced to maintain

1712
02:40:15,61 --> 02:40:19,77
a moratorium so now we're under posters
that should in the Coastal Commission

1713
02:40:19,78 --> 02:40:25,93
thousand US to keep the moratorium on
Service Committee connections in twenty

1714
02:40:25,94 --> 02:40:32,88
thirteen were able to again twenty eleven
we understood our water situation and

1715
02:40:32,89 --> 02:40:39,77
it took two years to negotiate with the
commission how connections to the district

1716
02:40:39,77 --> 02:40:44,41
Army and how this essentially
this water is the need out.

1717
02:40:49,53 --> 02:40:56,25
So so this is really the documents the
Public Works fine Coastal Commission talking

1718
02:40:57,18 --> 02:41:02,35
together with the local post the problem
also Coastal Commission document but not

1719
02:41:02,36 --> 02:41:07,04
negotiated between the district and the
Coastal Commission the local post program

1720
02:41:07,05 --> 02:41:07,17
is

1721
02:41:07,18 --> 02:41:13,97
a document that is negotiated between the
county and the Coastal Commission so let's

1722
02:41:13,98 --> 02:41:19,35
stay with the Public Works find the main
document or for us what you do see.

1723
02:41:20,97 --> 02:41:27,59
So here are two basic conditions that are
you telling us how we can do and how we

1724
02:41:27,60 --> 02:41:33,22
can be sure we need jeans and this is the
force now focused on well conversion

1725
02:41:34,39 --> 02:41:40,59
so if essentially tells us that
existing power well as the new moms

1726
02:41:40,91 --> 02:41:45,71
within the urban rural boundary
are eligible for domestic and.