1 00:00:00,08 --> 00:00:06,05 Results. So that we don't have to go through to experiment with this and we go back 2 00:00:06,06 --> 00:00:07,13 as you say it's going to change 3 00:00:07,14 --> 00:00:13,46 a little bit will we. Do When we do the study it happens. To be ended. 4 00:00:14,82 --> 00:00:21,38 So let's find out what it is but the other thing is it relation to. This is coming 5 00:00:21,38 --> 00:00:27,22 . To. Us. 6 00:00:28,74 --> 00:00:35,32 But the timing still decisive let's move forward with this we've got to do for this 7 00:00:35,33 --> 00:00:42,31 clearance to July first. I guess to make the nation if we're going to tie up you 8 00:00:42,32 --> 00:00:46,22 know twenty thirty. This particular project which wasn't on the drawing board at 9 00:00:46,23 --> 00:00:51,20 all what projects are going to give this. Can we factored in 10 00:00:51,21 --> 00:00:57,97 a row between us. You know some other projects where you have one person 11 00:00:57,98 --> 00:01:02,60 outside the board. So we would be able to let me I don't know what else you know of 12 00:01:02,61 --> 00:01:08,52 the joint would which money is left in Europe for this type of work the two options 13 00:01:08,53 --> 00:01:13,39 to fund this would be out of the top money to take appropriate and chop and I do 14 00:01:13,93 --> 00:01:18,42 which is from the state currently have about thirty two thousand. Talk about money 15 00:01:18,46 --> 00:01:25,06 which you're sure you can up and roads. For example actually are paid Caroline 16 00:01:25,21 --> 00:01:26,14 road with 17 00:01:26,15 --> 00:01:30,96 a residence in the house but the cost of that would be for one thing next vote for 18 00:01:30,97 --> 00:01:36,13 Town Hall which would put that back the next instructions that how many of the 19 00:01:36,14 --> 00:01:40,51 projects do you know drawing up to the thirty thousand dollars number of 20 00:01:40,55 --> 00:01:45,23 a couple. And others that I don't know with a rarity standpoint this was 21 00:01:45,24 --> 00:01:49,87 a drug. We don't think this is so we wanted to for whatever you're talking about. 22 00:01:51,51 --> 00:01:55,62 Here are pretty much it's going to work over the chances of getting two things to 23 00:01:55,68 --> 00:02:02,67 projects because those. So that. Would work so we talked with the 24 00:02:02,68 --> 00:02:08,67 ferry some projects and I don't know what they. Were basically here are cheap this 25 00:02:08,67 --> 00:02:14,10 . Or we may be able wait till July first get to know this is the busy season for 26 00:02:14,11 --> 00:02:20,33 the trucks so. I've talked. With the proper. 27 00:02:22,91 --> 00:02:29,81 Language in the community. And I depart for so many years to. Chop 28 00:02:29,82 --> 00:02:33,14 and. Check the money coming in ninety money is 29 00:02:33,15 --> 00:02:38,25 a system sitting there for the system exists. And right now we have enough to. 30 00:02:40,06 --> 00:02:46,48 Fund the part you know. Just want to know what will be giving me not just which of 31 00:02:46,48 --> 00:02:53,43 . Course if you want to get it done. I think what she is asking 32 00:02:54,28 --> 00:03:01,26 is if we were to ask. This possible something's going to 33 00:03:01,27 --> 00:03:07,25 give what is. It you give me what isn't getting done until you Mr Chairman I think 34 00:03:07,28 --> 00:03:10,89 I can respond to that because one of the things I wanted to look at the road 35 00:03:10,96 --> 00:03:16,100 projects that we have we have program so. You know we're looking at it but it just 36 00:03:17,09 --> 00:03:22,50 stops projects that we have that are on the docket in some associated. Part of the 37 00:03:22,50 --> 00:03:27,28 Country Club Road. Reading classes ninety thousand slaughter dollars 38 00:03:27,80 --> 00:03:33,21 a portion of Central Street costs to twenty thousand three hundred dollars tower 39 00:03:34,09 --> 00:03:40,78 out of thirty four thousand seven. School the only approximately five thousand 40 00:03:40,82 --> 00:03:45,81 so the total of some of those is about sixty six thousand dollars. 41 00:03:48,33 --> 00:03:53,10 Chapter nineteen money that we have on hand is one hundred twenty eight thousand 42 00:03:53,11 --> 00:03:58,44 three hundred ninety three dollars the which isn't money and the subchapter not 43 00:03:58,45 --> 00:04:04,11 even to the sort of July first so all of those together the total projects that 44 00:04:04,12 --> 00:04:07,98 we're programmed is seven hundred sixty six thousand dollars the total amount of 45 00:04:07,99 --> 00:04:12,75 money that we have coming in from Chapter nineteen money that's on the end is about 46 00:04:12,76 --> 00:04:17,67 six hundred fifty two so we have to make some decisions in terms of doing the 47 00:04:17,68 --> 00:04:21,99 projects but as you say we pretty much put those monies earmarked at this point for 48 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:25,09 those sort of terms. I have. 49 00:04:28,89 --> 00:04:35,52 Something has just bought me about this whole thing of the past that. When I listen 50 00:04:35,53 --> 00:04:42,28 to people even before we do this study the computer related. 51 00:04:45,67 --> 00:04:47,45 The some of the windows down are 52 00:04:47,46 --> 00:04:54,76 a lot of people playing. So the 53 00:04:54,92 --> 00:05:01,70 real question here is the issue. If we put 54 00:05:03,02 --> 00:05:09,96 these races across what I will we actually detour at the traffic. Oh we 55 00:05:09,97 --> 00:05:14,65 just slow it down we slow it. More noise as 56 00:05:14,66 --> 00:05:20,33 a result of slowing things down starting up again so I mean it's like this 57 00:05:20,34 --> 00:05:26,50 conundrum that we have over there you know what we do in force we go forward with 58 00:05:26,51 --> 00:05:32,54 the truck exclusion and we can get their groove then we're going to move to traffic 59 00:05:32,62 --> 00:05:34,64 some other place and although it's 60 00:05:34,65 --> 00:05:41,52 a fact that we do this right doesn't eliminate that the trucks I mean the least 61 00:05:41,76 --> 00:05:48,23 no one has said we'd get excited at the start and to go down through one twenty 62 00:05:48,24 --> 00:05:53,95 eight so it's almost like we're pushing here you know to create 63 00:05:53,96 --> 00:06:00,88 a problem that triggered. Because there was actually you know in my can 64 00:06:01,07 --> 00:06:06,52 you know right those are all few true thoughts but what we're trying to do but 65 00:06:06,53 --> 00:06:10,67 remember initially the race cross-walk wasn't even part of our discussion or in 66 00:06:10,71 --> 00:06:16,87 anybody's thought he brought it up several weeks after he took it into his position 67 00:06:17,52 --> 00:06:21,71 once he brought it up he also went one step further and he started contacting all 68 00:06:21,72 --> 00:06:25,89 the towns that actually did this so based on that research and then my story and 69 00:06:25,90 --> 00:06:32,38 also I think. It in some of those discussions visiting and getting some data from 70 00:06:32,39 --> 00:06:38,75 some of these towns and showed the research showed that this works it works that it 71 00:06:38,76 --> 00:06:42,11 can't guarantee it's going to work for us but it works for them and I think you 72 00:06:42,12 --> 00:06:47,52 have to make decisions based on the research and but nothing is no guarantees and 73 00:06:47,53 --> 00:06:51,97 we do and I think based on my discussion with the residents in the area that they 74 00:06:51,98 --> 00:06:56,79 hurt for fees discussion not the information right but makes organ that they felt 75 00:06:56,80 --> 00:07:01,00 that this is it worth the option to maybe step out first on and give it 76 00:07:01,01 --> 00:07:04,83 a shot they felt it was better than trying to go to the whole process of 77 00:07:04,84 --> 00:07:11,48 instructions and I agree. They were ready for Mike was very 78 00:07:11,49 --> 00:07:17,21 clear that this will create some more potential but we also know that the trucks 79 00:07:17,25 --> 00:07:21,37 most likely won't go down that routing because then I don't want to start and stop 80 00:07:21,41 --> 00:07:27,58 stop stop stop stop so they're willing to roll the dice to give this 81 00:07:27,59 --> 00:07:30,68 a shot in the sport of them in making this now. 82 00:07:36,62 --> 00:07:43,27 Just show you that question to you you know. Yeah I think we have to 83 00:07:43,64 --> 00:07:49,65 keep our. Eyes and Ears set on on the ultimate goal here talking about safety. 84 00:07:50,68 --> 00:07:57,66 Peace. In the noise and so on I think what my concern. 85 00:07:59,11 --> 00:08:05,98 Is the loss of an opportunity. If we go first with the right shoes and 86 00:08:06,55 --> 00:08:12,57 you know listening to. The points that I've heard seem to justify that 87 00:08:13,76 --> 00:08:20,47 if we go with the ricers it it's agreed here that it was it includes increased the 88 00:08:20,48 --> 00:08:26,18 No it's but it may be going to Six That is from 89 00:08:26,19 --> 00:08:30,25 a quick if I misunderstood you that it was slow traffic down but it won't 90 00:08:30,26 --> 00:08:36,93 necessarily day boat if I understood quickly I want to refer. To Yes that's 91 00:08:36,94 --> 00:08:38,37 essentially what we're talking about like 92 00:08:38,38 --> 00:08:43,54 a seventy five eighty percent success rate and more in speech OK high number but 93 00:08:43,70 --> 00:08:47,96 the burning trucks. And show and also. 94 00:08:50,45 --> 00:08:57,44 That changes the. The vote therefore we would lose the opportunity for going for 95 00:08:57,96 --> 00:09:03,46 exclusion because won't change that. But if we go through that we still don't have 96 00:09:03,47 --> 00:09:08,79 the answer if how all this we have 97 00:09:09,23 --> 00:09:13,48 a window of opportunity to go through the truck exclusion but we knew that answer 98 00:09:13,49 --> 00:09:15,84 right now would help the decision process 99 00:09:16,05 --> 00:09:22,93 a bit more. And if we lose the truck exclusion opportunity and we have the speed is 100 00:09:22,94 --> 00:09:29,93 there and we have more noise and we don't lose the the. The parking the traffic 101 00:09:29,94 --> 00:09:34,97 that hoping for it it's kind of what's under the category Be careful what you ask 102 00:09:34,98 --> 00:09:36,51 for because it might wind up in 103 00:09:36,52 --> 00:09:40,76 a spot where the situation is really worse now and you really can't do anything 104 00:09:40,77 --> 00:09:44,40 about it you can't go to the truck exclusion the trucks are going to keep coming in 105 00:09:44,41 --> 00:09:48,81 and it's not going to be safe so it would just seem to me that the appropriate 106 00:09:48,82 --> 00:09:55,04 course of action would be to go for exclusion and if that fails then go for the 107 00:09:55,39 --> 00:10:00,78 speed but speed watches and because you can always take those off. If you put them 108 00:10:00,79 --> 00:10:07,50 in. That that's might. Want to bring it to some 109 00:10:07,88 --> 00:10:12,21 decision some. People have 110 00:10:12,22 --> 00:10:16,37 a new street in Chestnut Street and dealing with this for years it's been before us 111 00:10:16,38 --> 00:10:23,03 for it over two years we don't see any further down that road today that were with 112 00:10:23,04 --> 00:10:27,86 a group of four or five weeks ago at that time he said pursue both paths there was 113 00:10:27,87 --> 00:10:31,46 nothing precluding us were doing so we were not much further down the road turns 114 00:10:31,47 --> 00:10:35,99 were truck exclusion in terms of we know the started it was done as 115 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:42,99 a last forever so they were moving forward as well as going to the. These 116 00:10:43,00 --> 00:10:49,00 rises let's let's move. We're going to hurt traffic seems to be 117 00:10:49,01 --> 00:10:53,38 a difference in the research you've done research in terms of how much traffic is 118 00:10:53,39 --> 00:10:59,75 going to divert prices without conflict comes through but it seems. If you look at 119 00:10:59,76 --> 00:11:05,39 the say it would cereals and see what you are but certainly if the chief is correct 120 00:11:05,40 --> 00:11:09,57 we're going to divert traffic so we have it Truck exclusion all these rides is 121 00:11:09,68 --> 00:11:13,18 going to divert traffic somewhere so it's going to go somewhere so we'll have to 122 00:11:13,19 --> 00:11:18,66 deal with that but these folks will put up with this issue we know we can move 123 00:11:18,67 --> 00:11:21,28 forward truck exclusion which is do is make 124 00:11:21,29 --> 00:11:27,10 a decision. In terms of we're going to have to defer some of what we're spend six 125 00:11:27,11 --> 00:11:31,67 hundred thousand dollars it's twenty four hours it's 126 00:11:31,68 --> 00:11:38,62 a small amount of money overall. Expenditure which. I think you can divert 127 00:11:38,66 --> 00:11:44,08 twenty thousand workers to get this. Which is good. 128 00:11:45,63 --> 00:11:51,62 That's my position but you know Kate smells like it but you don't spot but can you 129 00:11:51,63 --> 00:11:55,42 shed some light on your experience with these they know your expertise is in the 130 00:11:55,43 --> 00:11:59,28 Syrian if some of the stuff we talk about if you hear some of the data that's been 131 00:11:59,29 --> 00:11:59,78 thrown around 132 00:11:59,79 --> 00:12:04,100 a bit think it's not valid or it's incorrect you could use that at all. If you if 133 00:12:05,01 --> 00:12:06,84 you could talk to the podium and introduce yourself. 134 00:12:11,92 --> 00:12:16,09 For the record when I was ten your MIL's five Green Meadow Drive. Not really here 135 00:12:16,10 --> 00:12:21,44 to comment on the project and I am just confuse what the objective of the the 136 00:12:21,45 --> 00:12:27,97 project itself. Am experienced in traffic engineering so I do have some expertise 137 00:12:27,98 --> 00:12:31,100 in that met these matters. So I'm 138 00:12:32,01 --> 00:12:35,25 a great Mr Muskerry had said with regards to their. 139 00:12:40,27 --> 00:12:41,64 One of the issues was up there was 140 00:12:41,65 --> 00:12:47,25 a noise problem and this does not seem like will help with the quote risers other 141 00:12:47,26 --> 00:12:52,69 race crosswalks. Question I had was regard to speeding I didn't really think there 142 00:12:52,70 --> 00:12:52,81 was 143 00:12:52,82 --> 00:12:56,50 a speeding problem with regards to the data that the police departments have posted 144 00:12:56,50 --> 00:13:03,07 . And they did their study. And 145 00:13:03,55 --> 00:13:08,25 again a lot of the traffic just doesn't to Monaghan and the D.P.W. 146 00:13:08,26 --> 00:13:14,60 Sent so much sure the amount that's going to be deterred this are minimal. Most of 147 00:13:14,61 --> 00:13:21,41 it's coming. Right contractors route. Ninety three at once 148 00:13:21,42 --> 00:13:24,20 when you look at did you not get 149 00:13:24,21 --> 00:13:28,83 a copy of the report just start looking at it so I wasn't really prepared to know 150 00:13:28,84 --> 00:13:34,24 we're coming so I'm just really curious is your expertise on these restaurants. I 151 00:13:34,25 --> 00:13:39,81 mean have you seen them. If you work with them to see them this is the only thing 152 00:13:39,82 --> 00:13:45,03 they know is just not designed properly. Then they give up what you guys are trying 153 00:13:45,04 --> 00:13:48,38 to do really name it well you know everybody will remember that oh it didn't work 154 00:13:48,39 --> 00:13:53,28 this'll it's never do them again anywhere in town. So they're not done properly and 155 00:13:53,28 --> 00:13:56,71 for a good intent then they're becoming 156 00:13:57,35 --> 00:14:04,22 a blackout thank you for. This really. 157 00:14:05,77 --> 00:14:11,06 Is one. Correspondence to. 158 00:14:13,82 --> 00:14:20,47 Raise crosswalks the political nature. I know that will costly but to me. 159 00:14:22,13 --> 00:14:26,15 It's the step just so we're. Doing it rather redoing roach on 160 00:14:26,16 --> 00:14:30,57 a back up and all the rest and it gives us an additional options to use them other 161 00:14:30,58 --> 00:14:36,96 places later on you know you know as you take them out of. This 162 00:14:37,43 --> 00:14:43,62 system I think it's like the leg bolts you know they drop on think about it. And 163 00:14:43,63 --> 00:14:44,02 then you don't have 164 00:14:44,03 --> 00:14:47,78 a problem with them plowing the issue we don't have the same problem with time as 165 00:14:47,79 --> 00:14:53,77 we do this time we're in the summer. Travel so. 166 00:14:54,91 --> 00:14:59,59 You know I want to see something done but I want to make sure it's right and I.