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mountain Jax isn't that the 00:14:43.660 --> 00:14:44.790 align:start position:0% to sell and mountain Jax isn't that the restaurant<00:14:43.990> that's<00:14:44.319> there<00:14:44.560> it's<00:14:44.649> been 00:14:44.790 --> 00:14:44.800 align:start position:0% restaurant that's there it's been 00:14:44.800 --> 00:14:47.220 align:start position:0% restaurant that's there it's been defunct<00:14:45.189> for<00:14:45.459> it<00:14:45.910> has<00:14:46.060> many<00:14:46.360> years<00:14:46.720> and<00:14:47.139> i 00:14:47.220 --> 00:14:47.230 align:start position:0% defunct for it has many years and i 00:14:47.230 --> 00:14:49.679 align:start position:0% defunct for it has many years and i don't<00:14:47.439> i'm<00:14:47.620> not<00:14:47.649> sure<00:14:48.100> that<00:14:48.459> people<00:14:49.329> coming<00:14:49.600> to 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:49.689 align:start position:0% don't i'm not sure that people coming to 00:14:49.689 --> 00:14:52.710 align:start position:0% don't i'm 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